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(Slate)   Cory Booker's Senate win last night is bad for liberals, because he didn't kick Lonegan's ass hard enough   (slate.com ) divider line
    More: Unlikely, New Jersey Senate, Steve Lonegan, John Fund, Terry McAuliffe, Frank Lautenberg, U.S. Senate, liberals, special election  
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1053 clicks; posted to Politics » on 17 Oct 2013 at 12:30 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-10-17 01:01:55 PM  
2 votes:
Did nobody RTFA?

"Booker's 55 percent was the most any candidate's won in an open seat race for U.S. Senate in New Jersey since the 1930 election of Dwight Morrow. It's vanishingly rare for a New Jersey candidate to crack 60 percent statewide; it hadn't been done since 1984, the first re-election of Bill Bradley."

Sounds like an ass-kickin to me then combine that with it was a special election with diminished voter turnout and I think it makes a solid statement that the Tea-Party approach is out of favor in NJ (and hopefully falling fast everywhere)
2013-10-17 12:28:08 PM  
2 votes:
10 points on a special election day on a Wednesday in October?

yeah, I think liberals did just fine.
2013-10-17 02:51:09 PM  
1 vote:

ManateeGag: Paris1127: solid blue state status (aside from the Governor)

For Jersey, Christie is a right wing crazy.  For other deep red states, he might as well be a Communist.

Besides, People were so sick of Corzine, anything was a welcome change.


Bolded for emphasis. This is my general answer to "If NJ is so liberal, why'd you elect a Republican governor?"
2013-10-17 01:14:27 PM  
1 vote:

RubberBandMan: Why has fiscally conservative governor Christie wasted taxpayer dollars for a special election so close to the November elections?


So he can win in a few weeks.  He did not want to be on the same ballot as Booker.  It would make his margins for victory much much smaller.  The last thing he wants is people from the blue parts of NJ more reasons to show up in November.

The only reason NJ has Republican governors is because our election cycle is shifted one year from the presidential cycle.  About the only time the masses can be bothered with the polls is when the president is being elected.  Otherwise whatever minority is motivated to vote gets to run the tables.

If we wanted representative government, we'd only have mail in ballots, it would be part of Form 1040, and you'd have to pay all your income to avoid providing a response.
2013-10-17 01:12:32 PM  
1 vote:

Rwa2play: IOW, you jagoffs prefer getting smoked by at least a 25% margin?


Just wait to see what happens if Ted Cruz gets the nomination in 2016, could possibly be the first time a presidential candidate walks away with zero electoral college votes and about 5% of the popular vote.
2013-10-17 01:10:27 PM  
1 vote:

Super Chronic: monoski: Did nobody RTFA?

"Booker's 55 percent was the most any candidate's won in an open seat race for U.S. Senate in New Jersey since the 1930 election of Dwight Morrow. It's vanishingly rare for a New Jersey candidate to crack 60 percent statewide; it hadn't been done since 1984, the first re-election of Bill Bradley."

Sounds like an ass-kickin to me then combine that with it was a special election with diminished voter turnout and I think it makes a solid statement that the Tea-Party approach is out of favor in NJ (and hopefully falling fast everywhere)

Yeah, I just don't really agree. It's also vanishingly rare for a full-blown wingnut to run in a statewide election. This is the state of Thomas Kean and Christie Whitman. Chris Christie is about as far to the right as they get, and even he doesn't openly embrace the Tea Party and is capable of saying nice things about Obama. (Heck, his current commercials show him bragging about his ability to compromise, something I've never heard from Lonegan.)

The diminished turnout part, I understand.


The wingnuts show up for special elections. The wingnuts show up for every election.  The average voter shows up for elections they think matter; and nobody really took Lonegan seriously enough as a threat to Booker to feel the need to get out.  When you have a low turnout you have a high concentration of wingnut.
2013-10-17 01:09:44 PM  
1 vote:
Where's Fark's dedicated anti-Booker troll?  I thought he was going to prove that Booker doesn't have a long-form New Jersey residency certificate and therefore Snooki is Governor.
2013-10-17 01:01:49 PM  
1 vote:
Why has fiscally conservative governor Christie wasted taxpayer dollars for a special election so close to the November elections?
2013-10-17 12:49:43 PM  
1 vote:

HMS_Blinkin: RodneyToady: On a Wednesday night special election?  Come on now.  If it was on the "normal" election day in November, it would have been a bigger margin.

Pretty much this.  Plus, the outcome was more or less a foregone conclusion, so the Dems weren't exactly out voting in force.


Yeah, as I mentioned in yesterday's thread, it was a bad sign when I showed up to vote yesterday morning; the polling place was empty except for workers, they'd been open for almost two hours and my wife and I were voters #6 and #7.
2013-10-17 12:44:59 PM  
1 vote:
I agree with this. I realize Booker has his issues and didn't run a very good campaign, but Lonegan is a flat-out terrible person. He's pro-shutdown and he campaigned with Rick Perry (the same Rick Perry who appeared in ads encouraging businesses to move jobs away from the New York area). His campaign included open race-baiting and gay-baiting. And yet, somehow in this very blue state, Lonegan managed to get 45% of the vote. I do not understand it at all.
2013-10-17 12:42:08 PM  
1 vote:

Giltric: ScaryBottles: 11 points is savage ass kicking no matter how you spin it.

In a blue state?

Vs a Tea Party guy?

Really?

Should have been a 40 point win in Blue Jersey.


Wow, you're actually running with the premise.
2013-10-17 12:38:51 PM  
1 vote:
I can't find it today, but apparently 11 points is the average margin of victory in New Jersey Senate elections over the past x-amount of elections.

People can talk about how Booker was up by 20 or whatnot earlier, but I wonder how much of that had to do with name recognition. Lonegan, while a known political figure, wasn't exactly a household name.
2013-10-17 12:35:06 PM  
1 vote:
It's only a bad night for liberals in that they could have found a much more apologetically hard left candidate than Booker and still easily won the seat.  Booker is a pretty blatant shill for the 1%ers.
2013-10-17 12:35:05 PM  
1 vote:

RodneyToady: On a Wednesday night special election?  Come on now.  If it was on the "normal" election day in November, it would have been a bigger margin.


ManateeGag: 10 points on a special election day on a Wednesday in October?

yeah, I think liberals did just fine.


These. The fact that New Jersey hasn't elected a Republican to the Senate in 40 years and its solid blue state status (aside from the Governor) didn't really give a lot of incentive for a huge turnout among liberals.

/of course, that backfired in Massachusetts
//however the Republican in that race was sane, Lonegan is not
2013-10-17 12:32:56 PM  
1 vote:
If at first you don't succeed, move the goalposts and declare victory anyway.
 
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