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(The Raw Story)   Neil deGrasse Tyson: Awww, Creationism is so cute when it thinks it's science   (rawstory.com ) divider line
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2013-10-17 10:48:20 AM  
I love that man.
 
2013-10-17 10:52:30 AM  
"I visited the Creation Museum," wrote the listener, "purely out of a sense of mystified curiosity. The recorded narration in their planetarium said that contemporary astrophysics predicted [sic] that certain stars were older than the known age of the universe and cited this problem as evidence against science and for Young Earth creationism."

"I was hoping Neil might tell me a little bit more about the problem and its solution," the note concluded.


Um...kill yourself?  But that would be impolite.
 
2013-10-17 12:02:14 PM  

Diogenes: Um...kill yourself? But that would be impolite.


They were right, actually. Emphasis on the word "were". The article mentions the explanation. There were some observations made that suggested that certain stars were older than the estimated age of the universe (at the time). Further observation since then has caused the estimated age of the universe to be revised upward. That's the problem with creationist views on science, though. Because of how their religion works, they seem to believe everything else works the same way. When your religion teaches that your god never changes, it's easy to project that ideal onto other things. It's beyond them that 20+ years ago our view of the universe was much different than it is now, incomprehensible that something as "fundamental" as the age of the universe might be subject to revision. They want to pin down scientific discoveries as being black and white and set in stone, when they are the exact opposite of that.
 
2013-10-17 12:09:12 PM  
The problem is that science has no credibility. 99% of the scientific theories over the past 500 years have since been proven wrong.

The Bible got it right the first time so it hasn't needed to constantly change.
 
2013-10-17 12:21:54 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: The problem is that science has no credibility. 99% of the scientific theories over the past 500 years have since been proven wrong.

The Bible got it right the first time so it hasn't needed to constantly change.


Damn ... that's not bad!  I almost bit.

9/10

// I mancrush NDT.
 
2013-10-17 12:33:08 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: The problem is that science has no credibility. 99% of the scientific theories over the past 500 years have since been proven wrong.

The Bible got it right the first time so it hasn't needed to constantly change.


You're funny. You can sit next to me in science class.
 
2013-10-17 12:37:59 PM  
This is akin to something I heard him say before:  If you want to believe that God did it, and that's all you need to know, that's fine, but I don't need you in the lab.  You're useless to me.
 
2013-10-17 01:00:55 PM  
This thread is gonna be good...get the popcorn.
 
2013-10-17 01:16:14 PM  
"What problem, that the Creation Museum exists?"

Awe. Some.
 
2013-10-17 01:33:21 PM  

SilentStrider: I love that man.


He gives me hope for the species.
 
2013-10-17 01:53:32 PM  
In a better world NDT would be Chairman of a committee to approve textbooks and Paul Broun would not be a Congressman on the House Science Committee, but instead terrified of losing his job sucking the farts out of movie theater seats.
 
2013-10-17 01:56:49 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Paul Broun would not be a Congressman on the House Science Committee, but instead terrified of losing his job sucking the farts out of movie theater seats.


Lots of people think turning hobbies into careers is a good idea, but in general, once you start doing something for a living, it stops being fun. Paul Broun is best off keeping his fart-sucking to a hobby basis. I'm sure he's got a great career ahead of him as a WalMart greeter.
 
2013-10-17 02:08:19 PM  

RedPhoenix122: This thread is gonna be good...get the popcorn.


Only if creationists show up, and thankfully they don't exist in the numbers some tend to think.
 
2013-10-17 02:11:03 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Only if creationists show up, and thankfully they don't exist in the numbers some tend to think.


It only takes one fart that just hangs in the air to ruin a dinner party.
 
2013-10-17 02:12:14 PM  

skozlaw: It only takes one fart that just hangs in the air to ruin a dinner party.


Sorry to interrupt the circle jerk. Continue arguing with people who aren't in the thread.
 
2013-10-17 02:13:23 PM  

RedPhoenix122: This thread is gonna be good...get the popcorn.


Nah.  We don't have many creationists here.  A few crazy vaxxers, some rampant breast-feed-anywhere defenders, and of course all the rest of our motley lot of insanity, but not much creationism.

NDT is my not-ever-secret-crush.  Him and Alex Filippenko.
 
2013-10-17 02:16:07 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Sorry to interrupt the circle jerk. Continue arguing with people who aren't in the thread.


Where did they farking go? - we used to have plenty.
 
2013-10-17 02:16:38 PM  

IntertubeUser: Eddie Adams from Torrance: The problem is that science has no credibility. 99% of the scientific theories over the past 500 years have since been proven wrong.

The Bible got it right the first time so it hasn't needed to constantly change.

Damn ... that's not bad!  I almost bit.

9/10

// I mancrush NDT.


Well he does have a point. You dont want science to make you look like a biatch do you?

/I mancrush Mac.
 
2013-10-17 02:17:16 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Only if creationists show up, and thankfully they don't exist in the numbers some tend to think.


Maybe not on Fark any more. But about half of Americans still believe God created humans in their current form some time in the past 10,000 years.
 
2013-10-17 02:22:37 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Continue arguing with people who aren't in the thread.


You're the only person who mentioned those people explicitly.
 
2013-10-17 02:24:18 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: some rampant breast-feed-anywhere defender


I don't see why this particularly needs defending. If it's a place that's acceptable to eat, it should be a place that's acceptable to breast-feed. There are a few people that seem to think that the bathroom is the appropriate place for breast-feeding, which is really disgusting, if you think about it.

//Thread: derailed
 
2013-10-17 02:25:43 PM  

whatshisname: J. Frank Parnell: Only if creationists show up, and thankfully they don't exist in the numbers some tend to think.

Maybe not on Fark any more. But about half of Americans still believe God created humans in their current form some time in the past 10,000 years.


I really hope that's inaccurate. My sole experience up here in Canada with a creationist was a nice Baptist guy i briefly knew in highschool, before his parents moved him to school where his beliefs wouldn't be challenged. We had some good talks which may have played a role in that.

If it is that common in the states, then by all means mock away. Some are watching. Who among you is brave enough to face the heathens in defense of your god?
 
2013-10-17 02:27:52 PM  

t3knomanser: Satan's Bunny Slippers: some rampant breast-feed-anywhere defender

I don't see why this particularly needs defending. If it's a place that's acceptable to eat, it should be a place that's acceptable to breast-feed. There are a few people that seem to think that the bathroom is the appropriate place for breast-feeding, which is really disgusting, if you think about it.

//Thread: derailed


Not my fight, and I don't disagree.


//thread back on track
 
2013-10-17 02:29:18 PM  
So NDT responds to a serious question with an Asshole remark, instead of pointing out that the calculated age of the universe has been revised upwards. Makes me wonder if the great NDT wasn't aware of that fact himself and reverted to a Ad Hominem attack to cover for his own lack of knowledge.

/It is high time a reckoning of all current proven knowledge and viable pertinent theories was made.
//And applied to all textbooks and encyclopedias.
///Hey, I can dream.
 
2013-10-17 02:30:14 PM  
if humans evolved from monkeys

then why are bananas designed for humans instead of the monkeys that eat most of them
 
2013-10-17 02:30:42 PM  
"I visited the Creation Museum," wrote the listener, "purely out of a sense of mystified curiosity. The recorded narration in their planetarium said that contemporary astrophysics predicted [sic] that certain stars were older than the known age of the universe and cited this problem as evidence against science and for Young Earth creationism."

Um, how does evidence of stars being OLDER than 15 BILLION years support the concept of THE EARTH being only 6,000 years old? If the stars are older, the earth is younger? WTF?
 
2013-10-17 02:32:57 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: The problem is that science has no credibility. 99% of the scientific theories over the past 500 years have since been proven wrong.

The Bible got it right the first time so it hasn't needed to constantly change.

img.fark.net

 
2013-10-17 02:33:26 PM  

Mikey1969: "I visited the Creation Museum," wrote the listener, "purely out of a sense of mystified curiosity. The recorded narration in their planetarium said that contemporary astrophysics predicted [sic] that certain stars were older than the known age of the universe and cited this problem as evidence against science and for Young Earth creationism."

Um, how does evidence of stars being OLDER than 15 BILLION years support the concept of THE EARTH being only 6,000 years old? If the stars are older, the earth is younger? WTF?


Because Satan.

/no, seriously
//because satan
///it's all a lie!
 
2013-10-17 02:34:19 PM  

sprawl15: if humans evolved from monkeys

then why are bananas designed for humans instead of the monkeys that eat most of them


Because we've intelligently designed bananas to fit our needs better through domestication.
 
2013-10-17 02:34:51 PM  

washington-babylon: So NDT responds to a serious question with an Asshole remark, instead of pointing out that the calculated age of the universe has been revised upwards. Makes me wonder if the great NDT wasn't aware of that fact himself and reverted to a Ad Hominem attack to cover for his own lack of knowledge.

/It is high time a reckoning of all current proven knowledge and viable pertinent theories was made.
//And applied to all textbooks and encyclopedias.
///Hey, I can dream.


NDT shot out a bit of snark, and then quite knowledgeably explained the scientific answer.
 
2013-10-17 02:35:15 PM  

lemurs: sprawl15: if humans evolved from monkeys

then why are bananas designed for humans instead of the monkeys that eat most of them

Because we've intelligently designed bananas to fit our needs better through domestication.


if you take a bag of banana chips and put it in a box and shake it you will never ever get a banana

maybe a plantain but those are gross
 
2013-10-17 02:36:23 PM  

sprawl15: maybe a plantain but those are gross


Fried plantains are pretty tasty.
 
2013-10-17 02:36:37 PM  

whatshisname: J. Frank Parnell: Only if creationists show up, and thankfully they don't exist in the numbers some tend to think.

Maybe not on Fark any more. But about half of Americans still believe God created humans in their current form some time in the past 10,000 years.


The vast majority of Christians believe in evolution. It's only the fundies who take the "created in 7 days" thing literally. I was taught science and evolution by a Catholic nun.
 
2013-10-17 02:37:05 PM  

sprawl15: lemurs: sprawl15: if humans evolved from monkeys

then why are bananas designed for humans instead of the monkeys that eat most of them

Because we've intelligently designed bananas to fit our needs better through domestication.

if you take a bag of banana chips and put it in a box and shake it you will never ever get a banana

maybe a plantain but those are gross


Not if you make tostones!
 
2013-10-17 02:41:31 PM  

lemurs: sprawl15: if humans evolved from monkeys

then why are bananas designed for humans instead of the monkeys that eat most of them

Because we've intelligently designed bananas to fit our needs better through domestication.


This. Seriously, if it's not fit for humans or not fit enough, we'll beat the shiat out of its genetics until it's better. Did it with bananas, corn, pigs, chickens, watermelon, you name it.
 
2013-10-17 02:42:22 PM  

Mikey1969: "I visited the Creation Museum," wrote the listener, "purely out of a sense of mystified curiosity. The recorded narration in their planetarium said that contemporary astrophysics predicted [sic] that certain stars were older than the known age of the universe and cited this problem as evidence against science and for Young Earth creationism."

Um, how does evidence of stars being OLDER than 15 BILLION years support the concept of THE EARTH being only 6,000 years old? If the stars are older, the earth is younger? WTF?


Any uncertainty and the whole theory is bullshiat. It's amusing considering their own beliefs, but that is basically the way the argument goes.
 
2013-10-17 02:43:06 PM  

SordidEuphemism: Mikey1969: "I visited the Creation Museum," wrote the listener, "purely out of a sense of mystified curiosity. The recorded narration in their planetarium said that contemporary astrophysics predicted [sic] that certain stars were older than the known age of the universe and cited this problem as evidence against science and for Young Earth creationism."

Um, how does evidence of stars being OLDER than 15 BILLION years support the concept of THE EARTH being only 6,000 years old? If the stars are older, the earth is younger? WTF?

Because Satan.

/no, seriously
//because satan
///it's all a lie!


That sketchy bastard...
 
2013-10-17 02:46:00 PM  

sprawl15: lemurs: sprawl15: if humans evolved from monkeys

then why are bananas designed for humans instead of the monkeys that eat most of them

Because we've intelligently designed bananas to fit our needs better through domestication.

if you take a bag of banana chips and put it in a box and shake it you will never ever get a banana

maybe a plantain but those are gross


Idiot. If you take a million monkeys and give them a million typewriters, you eventually get the liberal mainstream media.
 
2013-10-17 02:46:53 PM  

BATMANATEE: whatshisname: J. Frank Parnell: Only if creationists show up, and thankfully they don't exist in the numbers some tend to think.

Maybe not on Fark any more. But about half of Americans still believe God created humans in their current form some time in the past 10,000 years.

The vast majority of Christians believe in evolution. It's only the fundies who take the "created in 7 days" thing literally. I was taught science and evolution by a Catholic nun.


Everyone knows Catholics aren't Christians.

/Catholic
//Well, raised Catholic at least
 
2013-10-17 02:50:49 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: The problem is that science has no credibility. 99% of the scientific theories over the past 500 years have since been proven wrong.

The Bible got it right the first time so it hasn't needed to constantly change.


Eddie Adams from Torrance: Idiot. If you take a million monkeys and give them a million typewriters, you eventually get the liberal mainstream media.


Dude, you are on FIRE today!
 
2013-10-17 02:55:16 PM  

t3knomanser: Satan's Bunny Slippers: some rampant breast-feed-anywhere defender

I don't see why this particularly needs defending. If it's a place that's acceptable to eat, it should be a place that's acceptable to breast-feed. There are a few people that seem to think that the bathroom is the appropriate place for breast-feeding, which is really disgusting, if you think about it.

//Thread: derailed


No, I think the problem is the women who want to whip it out, not cover up, and then get offended if you happen to look their way. Seriously, do you know how awkward it is to try and wait tables when one of these people is sitting there? You can't look at anybody, lest mommy or hubby get pissed, yet you have to look somewhere. Otherwise, people can breastfeed wherever they want, I don't care.

/Unless they're behind the wheel. It should definitely be banned for people who are driving... ;-)
 
2013-10-17 02:57:43 PM  
Oh, Neil, you make my inner nerd pant *throws panties*
 
2013-10-17 03:04:04 PM  

sprawl15: if humans evolved from monkeys

then why are bananas designed for humans instead of the monkeys that eat most of them


I don't know... I have a couple of ideas though:

1. Talk to some humans who actually "eveolved from monkeys", they might know, but you'll have to explore a parallel universe to find them.

2. Talk to the kind of people who bred bananas from the ugly, seed-filled squat fruit they were a couple of hundred years ago.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-10-17 03:04:08 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: We don't have many creationists here.


I think I may have some part to blame for that. I scared them all away.

Or, well, all the really stubborn ones.

/including the QuoteBot 5000
 
2013-10-17 03:06:43 PM  

washington-babylon: So NDT responds to a serious question with an Asshole remark, instead of pointing out that the calculated age of the universe has been revised upwards. Makes me wonder if the great NDT wasn't aware of that fact himself and reverted to a Ad Hominem attack to cover for his own lack of knowledge.

/It is high time a reckoning of all current proven knowledge and viable pertinent theories was made.
//And applied to all textbooks and encyclopedias.
///Hey, I can dream.


Want to know how I know you didn't finish reading the article?
 
2013-10-17 03:07:28 PM  

Mikey1969: Talk to the kind of people who bred bananas from the ugly, seed-filled squat fruit they were a couple of hundred years ago.


why would monkeys have designed the fruit to look like that

that doesnt make any sense
 
2013-10-17 03:08:04 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: My sole experience up here in Canada with a creationist was a nice Baptist guy


Canadian fundies are vastly different than American fundies. For one thing, they are really good at keeping it to themselves, and secondly, they never EVER try to push it in politics. Except for the Christian Heritage Party, but it doesn't have any power anyway.

/have several religious friends
//mostly catholic
///very nice, warm, fun, polite people
////subject of religion NEVER comes up
 
2013-10-17 03:10:57 PM  
F*ckin' A - another NDT thread. More attention-whoring and dumbing-down science.
 
2013-10-17 03:14:57 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: F*ckin' A - another NDT thread. More attention-whoring and dumbing-down science.


I'm sure we're due for an over-hyped over-simplified 3D printing story.
 
2013-10-17 03:16:39 PM  

sprawl15: Mikey1969: Talk to the kind of people who bred bananas from the ugly, seed-filled squat fruit they were a couple of hundred years ago.

why would monkeys have designed the fruit to look like that

that doesnt make any sense


You atheolibtards think your being clever, but your so-called "point" just proves Creation Science correct.

Monkeys are not intelligent, so their designs are dumb.
God is omniscient, so He is able to design the perfect fruit that fits in your hand.
 
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