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(The Register)   Having thrown the baby out with the bath water in Windows 8, Microsoft adds a picture of the baby to Windows 8.1   (theregister.co.uk) divider line 88
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2013-10-17 01:01:43 PM  
Hey, people are buying things with rounded icons, and wee need to make our product look like that.
Hurr durr.
Windows 8

Oh, look. It's got different modes with IE 10.

If I wanted different modes and moods, I'd buy a farking browser with a gender.

Maxthon user. (yeah, it's IE stripped down )
 
2013-10-17 02:05:29 PM  
Three things I like about 8.1.

1. Login to desktop without third party apps
2. It actually indexes everything so that search charm actually finds things now without weird gaps in the results
3. You no longer have to have "apps" be the first set of results when you start doing a type-to-search on the start screen so you don't accidentally bring up gimped, useless "app" versions of settings tools

Everything else continues to be as pants-on-head-retarded as it ever was on a non-tablet system and if I didn't have to have it for Server Manager to manage the 2012 Hyper-V role I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole...
 
2013-10-17 02:23:07 PM  
So my wife got a good deal on a Surface RT. It was a sale, and she gets automatic payroll deduction,. It's a capable little tablet.

BUT....

It's got the most limited piece of shiat app availability I've seen. I have to use IE, I can't just install a farking printer, e-reader apps suck, etc., etc., etc...

The touchscreen is nice enough for her tablet experience, I'd have no problems if the downsides stopped at 'Metro'. Unfortunately, it's just where they begin.

Holy crap, the thing would be a ripoff at $100, thanks to how they've pigeonholed the goddamned thing. Sending smoke signals through two cans tied to a string and having a mime act out the results would be more efficient.
 
2013-10-17 02:40:17 PM  

Mikey1969: 's got the most limited piece of shiat app availability I've seen


I don't really understand what they thought was going to happen here. iTunes and Play are established, have been for years, and have multiple, well-received, functional and competitively priced devices using them. It's like they just expected people to port things because they're Microsoft. But who's going to port their stuff to an app store that only services devices that hardly anybody is holding?

I have no idea what Microsoft has been doing these last few years. It's like they just locked all their marketing and tech people in a cave away from the tech sector and made them work in a black box environment. It's weird.
 
2013-10-17 02:41:30 PM  

Mikey1969: So my wife got a good deal on a Surface RT. It was a sale, and she gets automatic payroll deduction,. It's a capable little tablet.

BUT....

It's got the most limited piece of shiat app availability I've seen. I have to use IE, I can't just install a farking printer, e-reader apps suck, etc., etc., etc...

The touchscreen is nice enough for her tablet experience, I'd have no problems if the downsides stopped at 'Metro'. Unfortunately, it's just where they begin.

Holy crap, the thing would be a ripoff at $100, thanks to how they've pigeonholed the goddamned thing. Sending smoke signals through two cans tied to a string and having a mime act out the results would be more efficient.


RT is balls.

I don't know why there can't be a "tablet" with "real" windows and a USB port for around the same money as a janky Surface RT
 
2013-10-17 02:46:25 PM  
I just want MathCad 14 to work. :(

Matlab is fine, though.
 
2013-10-17 03:16:04 PM  
Things I like in 8.1:

-Boot to desktop
-Right click on "start" icon and get shutdown options
-Scalable resolutions on a per monitor basis.
 
2013-10-17 03:16:42 PM  
I got a nice refurb laptop last month with Win8 on it. I was kinda worried about the new silly crap and I will admit that it was kind of annoying stock so I did a bit of research, spent $5 on Start8, and now it looks and acts almost exactly like Win7. It's really not that big of a deal and the underlying OS is very fast and stable.
/of course it was still stupid of MS to screw with the interface but come on, it's not the end of the world
 
2013-10-17 03:33:29 PM  

skozlaw: It's like they just locked all their marketing and tech people in a cave away from the tech sector and made them work in a black box environment. It's weird.


I work in the IT industry (on-site technician for a string of public libraries) and the only compliments I've heard about Windows 8 came from a customer who had never owned a computer and rarely used one at work. She claimed that Windows 8 is very user-friendly and intuitive. She also asked when I would be upgrading the building's public access computers (PACs) to Windows 8. She said that she currently was not using the PACs because they ran a 'weird version of Windows' (Windows XP), but would love to use the library's electronic resources once we've upgraded to 8.

I smiled and thanked her for her opinion. As she walked away, I muttered under my breath, "No way in hell will Windows 8 be installed on my machines".

/Next fiscal year, the PACs will be upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit.
 
2013-10-17 03:41:39 PM  

aevorea: I smiled and thanked her for her opinion. As she walked away, I muttered under my breath, "No way in hell will Windows 8 be installed on my machines".


I have a Vista machine at home that I am going to upgrade with an SSD and a new operation system. The IT guy at work advised going with 7, and as he walked off he said "Windows 8 will come into this office over my dead body."
 
2013-10-17 04:04:59 PM  

skozlaw: I have no idea what Microsoft has been doing these last few years. It's like they just locked all their marketing and tech people in a cave away from the tech sector and made them work in a black box environment. It's weird.


They're doing what they've always done outside of the traditional desktop/server OS and office productivity suite software - showing up late to the party carrying a wad of cash, trying to buy their way in.  I can't recall the last time that's really worked for them outside of the Xbox, and that was essentially taking the "gaming rig" PC concept and standardizing it.  Everything else has been pretty much a flop.

static3.businessinsider.com
Hey homies, squirt me that fresh tune!
 
2013-10-17 04:08:43 PM  

skozlaw: Mikey1969: 's got the most limited piece of shiat app availability I've seen

I don't really understand what they thought was going to happen here. iTunes and Play are established, have been for years, and have multiple, well-received, functional and competitively priced devices using them. It's like they just expected people to port things because they're Microsoft. But who's going to port their stuff to an app store that only services devices that hardly anybody is holding?

I have no idea what Microsoft has been doing these last few years. It's like they just locked all their marketing and tech people in a cave away from the tech sector and made them work in a black box environment. It's weird.


2 words:  Echo Chamber.

Seriously, it's a completely random echo chamber run by groupthink and insane pushes from above where someone has a "bright" idea and it just echoes back and forth without any outside input (and what little there is gets subsumed into the collective and ignored or blown up to insane proportions).

See: Why everything written in Silicon Valley/Redmond assumes you have a crazy fast broadband connection.  At work, they're on Gigabit Fiber (For shiats and giggles, I once plugged in directly and got 300Mbps on Speedtest) and at home, they're paying $100/month for 100Mbps.

/Never, ever again.
//Took a 40% pay cut to avoid doing that level of corporate bullshiat again.
 
2013-10-17 04:29:09 PM  
FTA:
"Microsoft last year said Windows 8 would help save PC sales for Christmas..."

Who would ever buy a PC for Christmas?  It would be like getting a lawnmower.  I'll continue to use PC's, but they're just tools to be replaced when they wear out or become obsolete.  Definitely not special-gift material.  Windows 8 just seems like an extra set of wheels on a machine that has enough already.
 
2013-10-17 04:41:16 PM  

Raoul Eaton: FTA:
"Microsoft last year said Windows 8 would help save PC sales for Christmas..."

Who would ever buy a PC for Christmas?


Probably all of those millions and millions of bazillionaires who buy their wife/GF/daughter a new Lexus every Christmas, according to the universe where Lexus execs dwell (ie, up their own asses).

t2.gstatic.com

The dealer said that the huge red bow comes free for an extra payment of $599
 
2013-10-17 05:01:57 PM  
I like how they heard everyone complaining about the missing Start  menu, so they brought back the Start  button.  Not exactly what we were asking for, Microsoft.
 
2013-10-17 05:10:42 PM  

Raoul Eaton: Who would ever buy a PC for Christmas?


Millions of people buy PCs for Christmas.
 
2013-10-17 05:57:49 PM  
So we have an article that's talking about how PC sales are dying and tables are where the action is.

In this thread we have people complaining about how microsoft is stupid for adding a tablet interface to it's flagship OS and should separate the two.

We also have someone complaining about how their tablet-only interface doesn't have all the features of their full OS.

I guess I'm not sure what we would have them do differently.
 
2013-10-17 05:59:00 PM  
Fark everyone else they did exactly what I been asking for, let me keep to start menu open on a second monitor, without it vanishing after I click something on the main monitor as in W8.
/I also like the large and tiny tiles
 
2013-10-17 06:09:50 PM  

skozlaw: Three things I like about 8.1.

1. Login to desktop without third party apps
2. It actually indexes everything so that search charm actually finds things now without weird gaps in the results
3. You no longer have to have "apps" be the first set of results when you start doing a type-to-search on the start screen so you don't accidentally bring up gimped, useless "app" versions of settings tools

Everything else continues to be as pants-on-head-retarded as it ever was on a non-tablet system and if I didn't have to have it for Server Manager to manage the 2012 Hyper-V role I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole...


VMware > Hyper-V

I'll keep Server 2008 R2 until I die. If they don't come out with something better after Server 2012, I'm seriously thinking about switching my back-end servers to all Linux boxes. But that would suck, because I love Exchange...
 
2013-10-17 06:18:09 PM  

jaytkay: Raoul Eaton: Who would ever buy a PC for Christmas?

Millions of people buy PCs for Christmas.


One of my favorite Christmas gifts was the 286 my dad bought for me and my brothers. My knowledge of MSDOS still comes in handy to this day as some of our production machines still run on it.
 
2013-10-17 06:22:14 PM  
Microsoft is good at dominating markets and dictating take-it-or-leave-it terms to their trapped user base.  They are terrible at actual competition, they are monstrously slow to move on anything and then make poor moves when they do.
 
2013-10-17 06:47:36 PM  
I say fark it all. We go back to DOS.
 
2013-10-17 06:49:30 PM  

seanpg71: So we have an article that's talking about how PC sales are dying and tables are where the action is.

In this thread we have people complaining about how microsoft is stupid for adding a tablet interface to it's flagship OS and should separate the two.


Maybe PC sales are tanking because people hate Windows 8.
 
2013-10-17 07:04:53 PM  
So far my least favorite thing of 8.1 is that it forced me to switch from a local user account to a Microsoft Logon. I have several other home systems in Windows 7 and 2008 all mapping drives to each other. Now all the mappings to my Win 8.1 box have to use a new ID. There was no option to keep my local ID for login. Don't these morons test anymore? Or do they just ignore negative feedback?
 
2013-10-17 07:05:44 PM  

Fubegra: Maybe PC sales are tanking because people hate Windows 8.


The memory and hard drive capabilities are beyond what the average user wants and/or can get on their internet connection.  That's why.  No need to replace all the time.
 
2013-10-17 07:11:01 PM  

seanpg71: So we have an article that's talking about how PC sales are dying and tables are where the action is.

In this thread we have people complaining about how microsoft is stupid for adding a tablet interface to it's flagship OS and should separate the two.

We also have someone complaining about how their tablet-only interface doesn't have all the features of their full OS.

I guess I'm not sure what we would have them do differently.


Create a tablet and desktop OS based on all the same backend technology, but then put appropriate UIs designed for the particular form factor of the device it is installed on, rather than trying to make them "the same". PCs have lots of screen space so hiding away functionality as pop ups at the sides/corners of the screen is stupid and unncessary - but makes sense a tablet or phone where space is at a premium, so the user experience loss of hiding them has enough benefit.

Large buttons for apps that you can swipe across page by page to find what you need makes sense on a small touchscreen device where it avoids fatfingering the wrong one all the time, but is a huge waste of space on a desktop machine where you can put hundreds of icons up and find and pick them out quickly with a mouse.
 
2013-10-17 07:23:42 PM  

xria: seanpg71: So we have an article that's talking about how PC sales are dying and tables are where the action is.

In this thread we have people complaining about how microsoft is stupid for adding a tablet interface to it's flagship OS and should separate the two.

We also have someone complaining about how their tablet-only interface doesn't have all the features of their full OS.

I guess I'm not sure what we would have them do differently.

Create a tablet and desktop OS based on all the same backend technology, but then put appropriate UIs designed for the particular form factor of the device it is installed on, rather than trying to make them "the same". PCs have lots of screen space so hiding away functionality as pop ups at the sides/corners of the screen is stupid and unncessary - but makes sense a tablet or phone where space is at a premium, so the user experience loss of hiding them has enough benefit.

Large buttons for apps that you can swipe across page by page to find what you need makes sense on a small touchscreen device where it avoids fatfingering the wrong one all the time, but is a huge waste of space on a desktop machine where you can put hundreds of icons up and find and pick them out quickly with a mouse.


Their approach for this is to have you buy a Surface Pro, a tablet and PC in one.  Also one that is good for corporate tablets on the road.
 
2013-10-17 07:25:49 PM  

syrynxx: So far my least favorite thing of 8.1 is that it forced me to switch from a local user account to a Microsoft Logon. I have several other home systems in Windows 7 and 2008 all mapping drives to each other. Now all the mappings to my Win 8.1 box have to use a new ID. There was no option to keep my local ID for login. Don't these morons test anymore? Or do they just ignore negative feedback?


Both.

They have local testers who have a)drunk the koolaid, b)are so locked out of the process they have no power to say "This is working exactly as designed, but your design is crap, and so it's not working as it should", c)are so busy testing their smaller part that they just fail to see the bigger picture (Not their fault, it's a general failure of vision)

I'm guessing that the testers and programmers went: "Yes, this is functioning exactly as this was designed" while the program managers went "Yes, this is exactly as we have designed it because we're slavishly copying everything Apple does without understanding why they do it and what the tradeoffs are," and the higher-ups were going "Microsoft ID, cloud power, locking into our app store" and no one with power ever said "Hey, why doesn't my NAS work anymore?"
 
2013-10-17 08:02:32 PM  

jaytkay: Raoul Eaton: Who would ever buy a PC for Christmas?

Millions of people buy PCs for Christmas.


Yup... I did.  Well, I BUILT the wife a new one for Christmas.  Close enough.
 
2013-10-17 08:34:05 PM  
I'M READY TO HATE!
 
2013-10-17 08:47:44 PM  

Wellon Dowd: aevorea: I smiled and thanked her for her opinion. As she walked away, I muttered under my breath, "No way in hell will Windows 8 be installed on my machines".

I have a Vista machine at home that I am going to upgrade with an SSD and a new operation system. The IT guy at work advised going with 7, and as he walked off he said "Windows 8 will come into this office over my dead body."


I recently installed an SSD in my main machine and it is freaking awesome. I have Outlook set to start on login and I used to have to wait 20-30 seconds for everything to be ready. Now, Outlook is ready to go immediately. I can't move fast enough to get any kind of delay out of Outlook on login. Now it reboots faster than it used to just shutdown.
 
2013-10-17 08:56:16 PM  

syrynxx: So far my least favorite thing of 8.1 is that it forced me to switch from a local user account to a Microsoft Logon. I have several other home systems in Windows 7 and 2008 all mapping drives to each other. Now all the mappings to my Win 8.1 box have to use a new ID. There was no option to keep my local ID for login. Don't these morons test anymore? Or do they just ignore negative feedback?


Err... wait, what?  Is this real?  You can't use a local ID anymore?

That's kind of a big deal for me.  I keep my IDs separate for a reason.
 
2013-10-17 09:02:36 PM  
I just want me 2nd Gen Nexus 10 to finally be announced.....
 
2013-10-17 09:06:25 PM  

seanpg71: So we have an article that's talking about how PC sales are dying and tables are where the action is.

In this thread we have people complaining about how microsoft is stupid for adding a tablet interface to it's flagship OS and should separate the two.

We also have someone complaining about how their tablet-only interface doesn't have all the features of their full OS.

I guess I'm not sure what we would have them do differently.


The proper thing to do would be for Microsoft to design their PC OS for PCs and a separate OS for tablets. Alternatively they could make a single OS that is flexible and has a user friendly way to adjust preferences to work well for both. The improper thing to do is to just design a tablet OS and force it onto PCs while completely disregarding the needs and desires of your existing customer base..
 
2013-10-17 09:16:29 PM  

BlackPete: syrynxx: So far my least favorite thing of 8.1 is that it forced me to switch from a local user account to a Microsoft Logon. I have several other home systems in Windows 7 and 2008 all mapping drives to each other. Now all the mappings to my Win 8.1 box have to use a new ID. There was no option to keep my local ID for login. Don't these morons test anymore? Or do they just ignore negative feedback?

Err... wait, what?  Is this real?  You can't use a local ID anymore?

That's kind of a big deal for me.  I keep my IDs separate for a reason.


Nope, just another person who doesn't know what they're talking about and couldn't take 20 seconds to use a search engine. Direct from Microsoft's website, concerning updating from Windows 8 to 8.1: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/update-from-windows-8-tu t orial

"To keep using a local account:
Windows 8.1 is designed to be used with a Microsoft account, so we recommend that you give it a try. Simply put, your Microsoft account is the glue that holds together so many useful features of the new Windows. Without one, you won't be able to, for example, automatically sync your settings and documents between PCs, back up your photos to the cloud so you can get to them from anywhere, or see all your contacts from multiple email and social networking accounts together in the People and Mail apps.
But if you're sure you want to use a local account instead, choose Create a new account, and then on the new account page, choose Continue using my existing account."
 
2013-10-17 09:46:00 PM  

seanpg71: So we have an article that's talking about how PC sales are dying and tables are where the action is.

In this thread we have people complaining about how microsoft is stupid for adding a tablet interface to it's flagship OS and should separate the two.


Let's see how successful Google and Apple have been with an OS specifically designed for touch based devices only.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com

So, yes. Microsoft has been stupid for wasting years developing a half assed version of Windows for touch instead of just leveraging the touch only OS they had already built for Windows Phone.
 
2013-10-17 09:58:47 PM  

BullBearMS: So, yes. Microsoft has been stupid for wasting years developing a half assed version of Windows for touch instead of just leveraging the touch only OS they had already built for Windows Phone.


All these companies are pretty stupid though. There was a time when it was clearly defined what every company did well. Everyone had their niche, and things chugged along nicely. You picked and chose as necessary depending on your needs. Now everybody needs to do everything because somebody else is also doing it. You've got a search engine? Now I've got a search engine. You have a phone? Now I've got a phone. It's a nonstop corporate masturbatory fantasy of catching up with the Joneses.

Competition in various marketplaces is great if you can actually provide a better product. If you're just going to shiat out a similar version of a product that somebody else is already doing better than you can provide, pack up and go home. There's no shame in not diversifying yourself to the point of anonymity within a sea of multinationals.
 
2013-10-17 10:12:44 PM  

Tobin_Lam: I recently installed an SSD in my main machine and it is freaking awesome. I have Outlook set to start on login and I used to have to wait 20-30 seconds for everything to be ready. Now, Outlook is ready to go immediately. I can't move fast enough to get any kind of delay out of Outlook on login. Now it reboots faster than it used to just shutdown.


And yet you still have to use Outlook.  So I'm not sure what you've gained.
 
2013-10-17 10:15:51 PM  
I've been hearing about 8.1 on Fark for so long now I honestly thought it was already out and in use, until today.
 
2013-10-17 11:34:21 PM  
Here's an interesting indicator of how new is Windows 8

The actual Windows NT version numbers (not the marketing names)

NT 5.0 =   Windows 2000
NT 5.1 =   Windows XP
NT 6.0 =   Windows Vista
NT 6.1 =   Windows 7
NT 6.2 =   Windows 8
NT 6.3 =   Windows 8.1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_NT
 
2013-10-17 11:49:49 PM  

gingerjet: Tobin_Lam: I recently installed an SSD in my main machine and it is freaking awesome. I have Outlook set to start on login and I used to have to wait 20-30 seconds for everything to be ready. Now, Outlook is ready to go immediately. I can't move fast enough to get any kind of delay out of Outlook on login. Now it reboots faster than it used to just shutdown.

And yet you still have to use Outlook.  So I'm not sure what you've gained.


I know you're trolling, but one thing I get with Outlook that I've never seen in another program is recurring events on certain days of the week. There is a big market of consumers that have things called "Class" on MWF and TR, every week. No other program that I've found let's me create an event/appointment like that. It is either once a week or every day, no inbetween. Does anything else do that?
 
2013-10-17 11:52:14 PM  

jaytkay: Here's an interesting indicator of how new is Windows 8

The actual Windows NT version numbers (not the marketing names)

NT 5.0 =   Windows 2000
NT 5.1 =   Windows XP
NT 6.0 =   Windows Vista
NT 6.1 =   Windows 7
NT 6.2 =   Windows 8
NT 6.3 =   Windows 8.1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_NT


How is that an indicator? "The NT version number is not now generally used for marketing purposes, but is still used internally, and said to reflect the degree of changes to the core of the operating system;[34] however, for application compatibility reasons, Microsoft has kept the major version number as 6 in releases following Vista."
 
2013-10-18 12:00:18 AM  

Tobin_Lam: How is that an indicator?


It's an indicator. It's not an absolute measurement.
 
2013-10-18 12:03:29 AM  
Can someone just tell why the farking fark these idiotic metrosexual (because they are farked) apps take so farking long to load? They aren't much more than farking widgets and they take longer to load than farking microsoft word.
 
2013-10-18 12:31:53 AM  
As a person who has to sell this pile of shat, it is VERY frustrating.

I know it's just Windows 6.3. I know it's all the background, that 95% of your apps will work just fine (and those that don't probably should be updated).

But telling Ma and Pa Kettle who just need something to check email and who are viciously afraid of change is very challenging. They've heard from their friends it's bad, they go to the store and it doesn't have the nice simple pop up menu (forgive that half of them have eyes so old they couldn't see the old pop up Start Menu, they knew it goddamn it!).

I probably get 2-3 returns a month just on Windows 8 hate, and I think I get at least 2-3 requests a week for Windows 7 systems. It's insane I'm still getting this. I never got tihs with XP, or Vista, or 7.

oh, and just to be safe: Microsoft's internal mail client? It doesn't work with POP3 servers. And guess what our biggest local ISP uses for email? POP3.

I know the Start Screen is just a program launcher. I'm from the Linux world, I never called Kubuntu a bad OS because it doesnt' have my prefered Window Manager. But Microsoft went way, way off the mark.

8.1 fixes a lot, but it still is way off the mark. I'm counting the days until Apple opens a Store here. I'm going first thing.
 
2013-10-18 12:44:55 AM  

meyerkev: "This is working exactly as designed, but your design is crap


I manage a small software team, and this is an inside joke with us. Our job is to upgrade customer sites. Once we went back to dev with a question about how a particular feature was supposed to work, and the answer that came back was "It's working as designed...although it may be a poor design."

Developers aren't as passive-aggressive as sysadmins, but they've got their moments.
 
2013-10-18 12:48:53 AM  

saintstryfe: Microsoft's internal mail client? It doesn't work with POP3 servers.


¿Que?

It's IMAP-only or something? WTF.
 
2013-10-18 12:54:56 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: saintstryfe: Microsoft's internal mail client? It doesn't work with POP3 servers.

¿Que?

It's IMAP-only or something? WTF.


If only there were 3rd party mail applications available for Microsoft Windows.

/ Win 8 sucks
// And so does any email account which does not support POP3
/// But c'mon
 
2013-10-18 12:57:24 AM  

MrSteve007: BlackPete: syrynxx: So far my least favorite thing of 8.1 is that it forced me to switch from a local user account to a Microsoft Logon. I have several other home systems in Windows 7 and 2008 all mapping drives to each other. Now all the mappings to my Win 8.1 box have to use a new ID. There was no option to keep my local ID for login. Don't these morons test anymore? Or do they just ignore negative feedback?

Err... wait, what?  Is this real?  You can't use a local ID anymore?

That's kind of a big deal for me.  I keep my IDs separate for a reason.

Nope, just another person who doesn't know what they're talking about and couldn't take 20 seconds to use a search engine. Direct from Microsoft's website, concerning updating from Windows 8 to 8.1: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/update-from-windows-8-tu t orial

"To keep using a local account:
Windows 8.1 is designed to be used with a Microsoft account, so we recommend that you give it a try. Simply put, your Microsoft account is the glue that holds together so many useful features of the new Windows. Without one, you won't be able to, for example, automatically sync your settings and documents between PCs, back up your photos to the cloud so you can get to them from anywhere, or see all your contacts from multiple email and social networking accounts together in the People and Mail apps.
But if you're sure you want to use a local account instead, choose Create a new account, and then on the new account page, choose Continue using my existing account."


So... I have to read paragraphs about it instead of just logging into my local account as I always do?

One of the many things wrong with Windows 8(dotwhatever).

Try doing a OS recovery with a Windows 8 recovery disc. Good luck! (Hint: it sucks and doesn't work at all and is the reason I went back to Windows 7 on all my personal and work machines).
 
2013-10-18 01:26:05 AM  

seanpg71: So we have an article that's talking about how PC sales are dying and tables are where the action is.

In this thread we have people complaining about how microsoft is stupid for adding a tablet interface to it's flagship OS and should separate the two.

We also have someone complaining about how their tablet-only interface doesn't have all the features of their full OS.

I guess I'm not sure what we would have them do differently.



Trying not to please everybody at once would be a good start.
 
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