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2013-10-17 08:33:15 AM  
The Gotham Theory. I like it. And just like in Batman, the crazies are coming out of the woodwork to get a piece of the action.
 
2013-10-17 08:39:40 AM  
The Republicans tried to send in Bain but it didn't work.
 
2013-10-17 08:41:51 AM  
So someone could actually reside in the bottom of the hole that holds the fence post that the turtle is perched upon?
 
2013-10-17 09:55:05 AM  
They've hit rock bottom and have begun to dig.
 
2013-10-17 11:44:37 AM  
they'll do it all again in 90 days, mark my words.
 
2013-10-17 11:48:05 AM  

FlashHarry: they'll do it all again in 90 days, mark my words.


I definitely think they are going to try, but after this whole debacle they may actually experience some pushback from within their own party. Maybe it'll even be the event that finally splits the extremist and dangerous Republicans from the semi-reasonable Republicans (no Republican is actually reasonable any more).
 
2013-10-17 11:49:36 AM  
These jokers are as useless as soggy clay. Face it, their "fiscally conservative" platitudes are less credible than the screeds in a harleyquinn romance. Man, batting their eyelashes at crazy xenophobes on the one hand, and religious zealots on the other, these two-faced clowns are the poison ivy on the ass of American demagoguery. They are the democracy killer. Crocodile tears notwithstanding, they persist in being the bane of the world's only remaining empire, and should hush up.
 
2013-10-17 11:52:55 AM  
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My Gotham Theory is better.
 
2013-10-17 11:57:58 AM  
The TP hasn't reached peak derp by any means. Make no mistake they will try to default us again. That is what they want. However, it remains to be seen if what's left of the sensible part of the Republican party has seen the light and won't follow them down into the gutter next time. My guess is they won't in a vain attempt to save their jobs in about a year
 
2013-10-17 12:00:18 PM  

TheOmni: I definitely think they are going to try, but after this whole debacle they may actually experience some pushback from within their own party.


It seems like there are about 144 members that either (a) are ideological zealots or (b) are in perceived ideologically zealous districts, which compelled the members to vote a certain way. The Zealots will not be swayed. Those in Zealous Districts will have to consider their upcoming primary runs. I'm sure that there were wishy-washy GOP members that told Boehner, "I want to vote for the resolution, but I don't want to have to vote for it if you have a majority already as my constituents want me to fight on." I think members like that would rather a CR in January be quietly pushed through without fanfare so that they don't have to draw attention so close to the primary.
 
2013-10-17 12:04:26 PM  

FlashHarry: they'll do it all again in 90 days, mark my words.


I'm not so sure the GOP could survive another shutdown.
 
2013-10-17 12:16:55 PM  
Didn't Ralph Nadir write,  Stop Heaving At Any Speed?
 
2013-10-17 12:26:43 PM  

Weaver95: FlashHarry: they'll do it all again in 90 days, mark my words.

I'm not so sure the GOP could survive another shutdown.


Seriously? They were apparently called 'dead' yesterday. They'll survive. Unless the Tea Party goes all in and refuses to work with the rest of the GOP at all. Cruz capitulated yesterday. What if he doesn't, in January?
 
2013-10-17 12:33:17 PM  
Chris Cilizzia is literally the worst pundit/journalist in the MSM. Brett Baier is better.
 
2013-10-17 12:34:59 PM  
If you step out of your lib echo chamber, you will realize the shutdown had no ill effect on this country and obamacare is becoming a disaster.  the websites still don't work and the people it was supposed to help are not signing up.

So yeah, the tea party is only going to get bigger and stronger.  more people are coming around to them.  Ted Cruz is a star precisely because he is a tea partier.  All the star power in congress is from the Tea Party.  If you look at the newest members in congress, the ones with the most name recognition are from the tea party.

Politicians are ego driven.  If their choice is to toe the moderate line and be ignored or go full tea party and be a star, which choice do you think they are going to make?
 
2013-10-17 12:35:45 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Weaver95: FlashHarry: they'll do it all again in 90 days, mark my words.

I'm not so sure the GOP could survive another shutdown.

Seriously? They were apparently called 'dead' yesterday. They'll survive. Unless the Tea Party goes all in and refuses to work with the rest of the GOP at all. Cruz capitulated yesterday. What if he doesn't, in January?


After this shutdown I wouldn't put it past the tea baggers to double down on the stupid tho. I dunno...I can't figure out what the hell they we're trying to accomplish.
 
2013-10-17 12:40:10 PM  
They don't view it as the party moving closer to bottoming out but rather toward a return to principle, which, they believe, is the ultimate path back to the presidency

And those principles are bigotry, sexism, and racism. You'll lose in 2016.
 
2013-10-17 12:40:12 PM  
 They haven't even remotely approached Peak Derp.
 
2013-10-17 12:40:38 PM  

SlothB77: So yeah, the tea party is only going to get bigger and stronger.


Well, if you say it we know it's a done deal, since you're such a farking genius at political predictions.
 
2013-10-17 12:40:58 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: The TP hasn't reached peak derp by any means. Make no mistake they will try to default us again. That is what they want. However, it remains to be seen if what's left of the sensible part of the Republican party has seen the light and won't follow them down into the gutter next time. My guess is they won't in a vain attempt to save their jobs in about a year


It depends on the money.

Wall Street may be angry enough to deny funds to Tea Party candidates.

If so, they are history.
 
2013-10-17 12:41:08 PM  
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2013-10-17 12:41:59 PM  

SlothB77: If you step out of your lib echo chamber, you will realize the shutdown had no ill effect on this country and obamacare is becoming a disaster.  the websites still don't work and the people it was supposed to help are not signing up.

So yeah, the tea party is only going to get bigger and stronger.  more people are coming around to them.  Ted Cruz is a star precisely because he is a tea partier.  All the star power in congress is from the Tea Party.  If you look at the newest members in congress, the ones with the most name recognition are from the tea party.

Politicians are ego driven.  If their choice is to toe the moderate line and be ignored or go full tea party and be a star, which choice do you think they are going to make?


24 Billion Dollars lost on GOP screwup to keep people from getting healthcare = No big loss

535 Million lost on green energy loan = CATASTROPHESCANDALWHAAAAAR
 
2013-10-17 12:42:04 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: They don't view it as the party moving closer to bottoming out but rather toward a return to principle, which, they believe, is the ultimate path back to the presidency

And those principles are bigotry, sexism, and racism. You'll lose in 2016.


Ultimately, it is a "return to principles", after a fashion: It's the far right finally showing itself as the disgusting fascists they are. They've hid behind a friendly media, euphemisms and flag-waving idiocy for decades and now the mask is coming off.
 
2013-10-17 12:44:45 PM  

SlothB77: If you step out of your lib echo chamber, you will realize the shutdown had no ill effect on this country and obamacare is becoming a disaster.  the websites still don't work and the people it was supposed to help are not signing up.

So yeah, the tea party is only going to get bigger and stronger.  more people are coming around to them.  Ted Cruz is a star precisely because he is a tea partier.  All the star power in congress is from the Tea Party.  If you look at the newest members in congress, the ones with the most name recognition are from the tea party.

Politicians are ego driven.  If their choice is to toe the moderate line and be ignored or go full tea party and be a star, which choice do you think they are going to make?


hey look, the Bill Kristol of Fark has spoken.
 
2013-10-17 12:45:00 PM  
as a narrative, i think this makes as much sense as bunny sex.
 
2013-10-17 12:45:05 PM  

mcreadyblue: Peter von Nostrand: The TP hasn't reached peak derp by any means. Make no mistake they will try to default us again. That is what they want. However, it remains to be seen if what's left of the sensible part of the Republican party has seen the light and won't follow them down into the gutter next time. My guess is they won't in a vain attempt to save their jobs in about a year

It depends on the money.

Wall Street may be angry enough to deny funds to Tea Party candidates.

If so, they are history.


Wall Street is done with them. It's only a matter of how much damaged can they inflict between now and January '15
 
2013-10-17 12:45:33 PM  
If?
 
2013-10-17 12:45:42 PM  
The Gotham Theory is that in order to renew itself, the gop must burn down so a new gop phoenix will arise from the ashes.

But, we all know how much conservatives think that recycling is a Marxist plot so that day will never come, and their burning will go on burning burning burning forever.
 
2013-10-17 12:46:02 PM  

SlothB77: If you step out of your lib echo chamber, you will realize the shutdown had no ill effect on this country and obamacare is becoming a disaster.


Is this reality that you believe as a Republican to make you feel better?
 
2013-10-17 12:46:03 PM  

Weaver95: Nadie_AZ: Weaver95: FlashHarry: they'll do it all again in 90 days, mark my words.

I'm not so sure the GOP could survive another shutdown.

Seriously? They were apparently called 'dead' yesterday. They'll survive. Unless the Tea Party goes all in and refuses to work with the rest of the GOP at all. Cruz capitulated yesterday. What if he doesn't, in January?

After this shutdown I wouldn't put it past the tea baggers to double down on the stupid tho. I dunno...I can't figure out what the hell they we're trying to accomplish.


Oh they are doubling down. They are shouting "RINO" to whomever will hear them.

That's kind of the funny thing. That party has terms for people they don't feel are republican enough. The term "DINO" isn't really thrown around much. There are "blue dogs" or "dixiecrats" but those also aren't really thrown around much. People don't froth at the mouth stating "HE's A FARKING BLUE DOG DEM!" and getting crazy about it.

The party IS BUILT to be crazy. It's absolutely nothing but irrational ideology.
 
2013-10-17 12:46:58 PM  
Well I guess that was about as intelligent as anything else on Slate. So correct me if I'm wrong but the original article's "author" is asserting is that one of the most high profile public humiliations in recent memory can only help the teabaggers because they're so farked that they have no place to go but up? He probably believes that "there is no such thing as bad press" too.
 
2013-10-17 12:48:13 PM  
"It's only a flesh wound!"
 
2013-10-17 12:48:38 PM  
It wouldn't matter if we took the proper steps to protect ourselves.  Obama  still hasn't learned how to deal with these people.

Mint the coin.  Set the floor of the "negotiation" at the status-quo.  If the GOP wants anything in addition to what we currently have, they have to give something up of equal value in return.  If they can't agree to a real compromise where both parties get things that they want in exchange for concessions, the coin goes in and the GOP gets nothing.  Then mint another coin in preparation for the next negotiation.
 
2013-10-17 12:49:31 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: They don't view it as the party moving closer to bottoming out but rather toward a return to principle, which, they believe, is the ultimate path back to the presidency

And those principles are bigotry, sexism, and racism. You'll lose in 2016.


But their unskewed polls promised them a huge win....
 
2013-10-17 12:49:56 PM  

SlothB77: If you step out of your lib echo chamber, you will realize the shutdown had no ill effect on this country and obamacare is becoming a disaster.


I don't think you have room to talk when it comes to echo chambers.
 
2013-10-17 12:49:59 PM  

SlothB77: If you step out of your lib echo chamber, you will realize the shutdown had no ill effect on this country and obamacare is becoming a disaster.  the websites still don't work and the people it was supposed to help are not signing up.

So yeah, the tea party is only going to get bigger and stronger.  more people are coming around to them.  Ted Cruz is a star precisely because he is a tea partier.  All the star power in congress is from the Tea Party.  If you look at the newest members in congress, the ones with the most name recognition are from the tea party.

Politicians are ego driven.  If their choice is to toe the moderate line and be ignored or go full tea party and be a star, which choice do you think they are going to make?



I hope you are trolling. But just in case you are serious:
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2013-10-17 12:50:02 PM  
Tea party can get worse? I suppose...

IA! IA! CTHULHU DERPTAGN!
 
2013-10-17 12:50:15 PM  
GOP intern #1: We've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger. Should I have your ship standing by?

Senator Ted Cruz: Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.
 
2013-10-17 12:50:53 PM  

mcreadyblue: Peter von Nostrand: The TP hasn't reached peak derp by any means. Make no mistake they will try to default us again. That is what they want. However, it remains to be seen if what's left of the sensible part of the Republican party has seen the light and won't follow them down into the gutter next time. My guess is they won't in a vain attempt to save their jobs in about a year

It depends on the money.

Wall Street may be angry enough to deny funds to Tea Party candidates.

If so, they are history.


The the CoC came out and said they would back any candidate who voted for the passage of the CR and raising of the debt ceiling, I was dismayed that they didn't go the extra yard and declare anyone who didn't support it anathema and refuse to back them.

While I'm here, glad to see all these guys I got marked in red survived. Missed y'all last couple days.
Well, some I had hoped would become an heros.
 
2013-10-17 12:51:46 PM  

I'm Yukon Cornelius: SlothB77: If you step out of your lib echo chamber, you will realize the shutdown had no ill effect on this country and obamacare is becoming a disaster.  the websites still don't work and the people it was supposed to help are not signing up.

So yeah, the tea party is only going to get bigger and stronger.  more people are coming around to them.  Ted Cruz is a star precisely because he is a tea partier.  All the star power in congress is from the Tea Party.  If you look at the newest members in congress, the ones with the most name recognition are from the tea party.

Politicians are ego driven.  If their choice is to toe the moderate line and be ignored or go full tea party and be a star, which choice do you think they are going to make?

hey look, the Bill Kristol of Fark has spoken.


I LOLd
 
2013-10-17 12:51:48 PM  

Summercat: SlothB77: If you step out of your lib echo chamber, you will realize the shutdown had no ill effect on this country and obamacare is becoming a disaster.

Is this reality that you believe as a Republican to make you feel better?


Of course it is, its their go to for anything that can't be whined away with shrieking Taxbama! really really loud. Seriously about 80% of inbred teabagger arguments when boiled down to bear bones can be summed up by NO YOU!
 
2013-10-17 12:53:45 PM  

CPennypacker: 24 Billion Dollars lost on GOP screwup to keep people from getting healthcare = No big loss

535 Million lost on green energy loan = CATASTROPHESCANDALWHAAAAAR


Well, 24 is smaller then 535, right libbo?  Gotcha!
 
2013-10-17 12:53:57 PM  
The GOP needs the Tea Party. They are a huge percentage of their base. They don't want to cut them out because it would be electoral suicide.

The Tea Party has proven they can do a lot of damage to the country even though they are clearly a minority. Moreover they are the end result of decades of right wing propaganda. They have internalized the rhetoric that their political views literally make them holy warriors fighting agents of Satan. They won't say "well, this isn't going so good. I guess I'll just let Satan have this round." There's no clear way to deescalate from calling Obama the Antichrist and the ACA the worst act in American history. They only get more radical.

The kind of fundamental shifts in ideology that would have to happen to reverse the Tea Party's course generally only happen under military occupation.

So no, even in the very unlikely event that the GOP expels the Tea Party they will not go away. They are an energized populist movement that will require energetic resistance for a long time.
 
2013-10-17 12:54:06 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Weaver95: FlashHarry: they'll do it all again in 90 days, mark my words.

I'm not so sure the GOP could survive another shutdown.

Seriously? They were apparently called 'dead' yesterday. They'll survive. Unless the Tea Party goes all in and refuses to work with the rest of the GOP at all. Cruz capitulated yesterday. What if he doesn't, in January?


They just need enough yay votes to break a filibuster.
 
2013-10-17 12:54:06 PM  
Hehehe  you said Nadir!
 
2013-10-17 12:54:34 PM  
2014 will be a referendum on the TEA party. If the primaries swing towards that group and they shift towards derp it will be very interesting to see how that plays to the independents and moderates.
 
2013-10-17 12:54:41 PM  
So, in other words, Atlas will keep on shrugging?  That's the big dude who holds the planet Earth suspended in the Cosmos, right?

/goes back to closet to retrieve tin-foil helmet

//it's actually an old aluminum collander
 
2013-10-17 12:55:38 PM  
SlothB77:

So yeah, the tea party is only going to get bigger and stronger.  more people are coming around to them.  Ted Cruz is a star precisely because he is a tea partier.  All the star power in congress is from the Tea Party.  If you look at the newest members in congress, the ones with the most name recognition are from the tea party.

Politicians are ego driven.  If their choice is to toe the moderate line and be ignored or go full tea party and be a star, which choice do you think they are going to make?


I am going to thoroughly enjoy watching the death of your party. They are bad people and deserve it.
 
2013-10-17 12:56:11 PM  

ScaryBottles: Summercat: SlothB77: If you step out of your lib echo chamber, you will realize the shutdown had no ill effect on this country and obamacare is becoming a disaster.

Is this reality that you believe as a Republican to make you feel better?

Of course it is, its their go to for anything that can't be whined away with shrieking Taxbama! really really loud. Seriously about 80% of inbred teabagger arguments when boiled down to bear bones can be summed up by NO YOU!


Karl Rove will rot in hell.
 
2013-10-17 12:57:24 PM  

SlothB77: So yeah, the tea party is only going to get bigger and stronger.  more people are coming around to them.  Ted Cruz is a star precisely because he is a tea partier.  All the star power in congress is from the Tea Party.  If you look at the newest members in congress, the ones with the most name recognition are from the tea party.


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