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(Daily Mail)   Airman who dug tunnels in the great escape from Stalag Luft III is laid to rest. Or IS he?   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 52
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2013-10-17 09:47:54 AM
Did he have a soily ball-sack?
 
2013-10-17 09:56:41 AM
This is the third time we've buried him, and hell if we know how he keeps getting out
 
2013-10-17 10:22:57 AM
So he'll finally get to all on Cives.

Er, call on Ives.
 
2013-10-17 10:32:44 AM
RIP

/ best.war.movie.EVAR
 
2013-10-17 10:34:00 AM
he went underground again?

/rest easy, badass
 
2013-10-17 10:34:39 AM
What does Big X have to say about this chap?
 
2013-10-17 10:35:20 AM
Good one, subby.
 
2013-10-17 10:38:48 AM
 
2013-10-17 10:40:00 AM
Play this music while you read the thread...
 
2013-10-17 10:41:47 AM
I was thinking about watching The Great Escape again last night, and this kind of cinches it.  It is, in my humble opinion, one of the finest pieces of cinema ever made.

Very appropriate use of the Hero tag, subby.
 
2013-10-17 10:42:49 AM
Caption on iconic shot of motorcyclist jumping the fence:

"The Great Escape: The story of the escape was made into a film in 1963, starring actor Steve McQueen"

Yeah, that's a stuntman and not McQueen. Still, best war film ever. Saw it 8 times at the theater as a kid and rode my bike home like I was McQueen on his motorcycle.
 
2013-10-17 10:44:12 AM
static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-10-17 10:44:58 AM
Airmen in a Stalag you say...

www.dvdtalk.com
 
2013-10-17 10:45:00 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-17 10:45:41 AM
www.lassothemovies.com
 
2013-10-17 10:46:50 AM
filmdope.com

/So many great actors in that movie.
 
2013-10-17 10:49:18 AM

Badmoodman: Caption on iconic shot of motorcyclist jumping the fence:

"The Great Escape: The story of the escape was made into a film in 1963, starring actor Steve McQueen"

Yeah, that's a stuntman and not McQueen. Still, best war film ever. Saw it 8 times at the theater as a kid and rode my bike home like I was McQueen on his motorcycle.


I thought McQueen was famous for doing his own stunts in that movie?
 
2013-10-17 10:57:37 AM

stuhayes2010: Badmoodman: Caption on iconic shot of motorcyclist jumping the fence:

"The Great Escape: The story of the escape was made into a film in 1963, starring actor Steve McQueen"

Yeah, that's a stuntman and not McQueen. Still, best war film ever. Saw it 8 times at the theater as a kid and rode my bike home like I was McQueen on his motorcycle.

I thought McQueen was famous for doing his own stunts in that movie?


McQueen did his own motorcycle riding, but there was one stunt he didn't do: the 60-foot jump over that fence. That was done by McQueen's friend Bud Ekins who later doubled for McQueen in Bullitt.
 
2013-10-17 10:58:33 AM
One of my sons and I fave flicks. His all time fave is "The Longest Day", with Juan Wayne.
My youngest ones is "Black Hawk Down".
 
2013-10-17 11:03:16 AM

Ex-Texan: One of my sons and I fave flicks. His all time fave is "The Longest Day", with Juan Wayne.


Isn't that the award-winning documentary about migrant farm workers?
 
2013-10-17 11:06:30 AM
actual photo of the escape
3.bp.blogspot.com
seriously RIP
 
2013-10-17 11:22:01 AM

SmackLT: This is the third time we've buried him, and hell if we know how he keeps getting out


Hathersage is home to a lot of lead mining. It was child's play.

\from a long line of lead miners
 
2013-10-17 11:23:01 AM
Cooler!
 
2013-10-17 11:29:53 AM

Thudfark: Cooler!


ryanseacrest.com

/so sorry
 
2013-10-17 11:39:32 AM

Cybernetic: www.lassothemovies.com



I had no idea James Garner was still alive until I googled it a few seconds ago. I thought he died years ago.
 
2013-10-17 11:42:47 AM
One of my favorite movies of all time....

noblecountygold.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-17 11:49:04 AM
PainIntheAsp

Ex-TexanOne of my sons and I fave flicks. His all time fave is "The Longest Day", with Juan Wayne.

Isn't that the award-winning documentary about migrant farm workers?


No, I believe Juan is the Mexican non-union equivalent of a certain famous gringo action star.  Like Senor Spielbergo.

starsmedia.ign.com
 
2013-10-17 12:01:12 PM

radarlove: I was thinking about watching The Great Escape again last night, and this kind of cinches it.  It is, in my humble opinion, one of the finest pieces of cinema ever made.

Very appropriate use of the Hero tag, subby.


The book is pretty good too.

The Great Escape
 
2013-10-17 12:05:49 PM

radarlove: I was thinking about watching The Great Escape again last night, and this kind of cinches it.  It is, in my humble opinion, one of the finest pieces of cinema ever made.

Very appropriate use of the Hero tag, subby.


I'll dig out my copy of the Brickhill book 'The Great Escape'. Should I mention I got Attenborough to sign it as Big X five years ago at a screening of 'Oh What a Lovely War!'
 
2013-10-17 12:17:31 PM

radarlove: I was thinking about watching The Great Escape again last night, and this kind of cinches it.  It is, in my humble opinion, one of the finest pieces of cinema ever made.

Very appropriate use of the Hero tag, subby.


That and Stalag 17 makes for a great movie night (throw in so Bridge on the River Kwai to complete the POW trifecta).
 
2013-10-17 12:26:20 PM

shinjitsuism: Airmen in a Stalag you say...

[www.dvdtalk.com image 400x300]


What gets me about that show is that at some point this conversation had to have taken place:


PRODUCER


Now, hear me out. What we'd like to do--and you've got to hear the whole pitch for this to make sense--is to set a situation comedy in a Nazi German POW camp. You know, like the ones a bunch of our target audience's friends and brothers died in.



NETWORK EXECUTIVE


Stop right there. Don't say another farking word.



PRODUCER


Please, you've got to hear me out--



NETWORK EXECUTIVE


Not another farking word until after I've signed you to a five-year exclusive contract!



PRODUCER


What a relief, I was afraid you'd think it was an unbelievable breach of good taste and a gigantic "fark you" to the hundreds of thousands of Americans who died fighting the very real, very unfunny Nazi menace.



NETWORK EXECUTIVE


Nah, it's fine. Although speaking of controversy, let's make sure this Negro character doesn't get more than a line or two per episode, okay?

Not that it wasn't a pretty funny show, for what it was. But I wouldn't want to watch it in the room with someone's Jewish grandpa.
 
2013-10-17 12:29:10 PM
Sorry for the weird ultra-spaced-out formatting. It didn't preview that way.
 
2013-10-17 12:32:44 PM

Cybernetic: [filmdope.com image 320x240]

/So many great actors in that movie.


Seriously.  Donald Pleasence's best role since Pumaman.

Thanks everyone, for the book recommendation!  Will pick it up at the library posthaste!
 
2013-10-17 12:50:33 PM

semiotix: shinjitsuism: Airmen in a Stalag you say...

[www.dvdtalk.com image 400x300]

What gets me about that show is that at some point this conversation had to have taken place:


PRODUCER
Now, hear me out. What we'd like to do--and you've got to hear the whole pitch for this to make sense--is to set a situation comedy in a Nazi German POW camp. You know, like the ones a bunch of our target audience's friends and brothers died in.

NETWORK EXECUTIVE
Stop right there. Don't say another farking word.

PRODUCER
Please, you've got to hear me out--

NETWORK EXECUTIVE
Not another farking word until after I've signed you to a five-year exclusive contract!

PRODUCER
What a relief, I was afraid you'd think it was an unbelievable breach of good taste and a gigantic "fark you" to the hundreds of thousands of Americans who died fighting the very real, very unfunny Nazi menace.

NETWORK EXECUTIVE
Nah, it's fine. Although speaking of controversy, let's make sure this Negro character doesn't get more than a line or two per episode, okay?Not that it wasn't a pretty funny show, for what it was. But I wouldn't want to watch it in the room with someone's Jewish grandpa.


I think you might be mistaken about people's reaction to "Hogan's Heroes". My grandfather was a WWII vet and he absolutely loved the show. Something about the way the show thumbed its nose at the Germans, made it enjoyable to him.

Let's also not forget "McHale's Navy", another popular 1960's show set in WWII.

Then there was the immortal "M*A*S*H", which came out only a few years after the Korean War that it as set in.
 
2013-10-17 01:05:38 PM
Pretty neat page with pics: http://en.wikigogo.org/en/184365/

Oh, and let's not forget the Fifty.
mw2.google.com
/frankly amazed some escaped undetected despite the loud clanking from their colossal brass balls
 
2013-10-17 01:15:42 PM

semiotix: shinjitsuism: Airmen in a Stalag you say...

[www.dvdtalk.com image 400x300]

What gets me about that show is that at some point this conversation had to have taken place:


PRODUCER
Now, hear me out. What we'd like to do--and you've got to hear the whole pitch for this to make sense--is to set a situation comedy in a Nazi German POW camp. You know, like the ones a bunch of our target audience's friends and brothers died in.

NETWORK EXECUTIVE
Stop right there. Don't say another farking word.

PRODUCER
Please, you've got to hear me out--

NETWORK EXECUTIVE
Not another farking word until after I've signed you to a five-year exclusive contract!

PRODUCER
What a relief, I was afraid you'd think it was an unbelievable breach of good taste and a gigantic "fark you" to the hundreds of thousands of Americans who died fighting the very real, very unfunny Nazi menace.

NETWORK EXECUTIVE
Nah, it's fine. Although speaking of controversy, let's make sure this Negro character doesn't get more than a line or two per episode, okay?Not that it wasn't a pretty funny show, for what it was. But I wouldn't want to watch it in the room with someone's Jewish grandpa.


I have a feeling someone saw Stalag 17 and thought, "Hey, I can turn that into a comedy!"
 
2013-10-17 01:22:12 PM
He will be buried in a coffin with a double bottom and a trap door at the back. Mourners are requested to help with sand dispersal and goon diversion.
 
2013-10-17 01:31:32 PM

Zombie Eater: I have a feeling someone saw Stalag 17 and thought, "Hey, I can turn that into a comedy!"


Heck, every movie William Holden ever did was a comedy.
filmjournal.net

24.media.tumblr.com

www.gonemovies.com
/dark comedy, but still comedy
 
2013-10-17 01:41:58 PM

Zombie Eater: semiotix: shinjitsuism: Airmen in a Stalag you say...

[www.dvdtalk.com image 400x300]

What gets me about that show is that at some point this conversation had to have taken place:


PRODUCER
Now, hear me out. What we'd like to do--and you've got to hear the whole pitch for this to make sense--is to set a situation comedy in a Nazi German POW camp. You know, like the ones a bunch of our target audience's friends and brothers died in.

NETWORK EXECUTIVE
Stop right there. Don't say another farking word.

PRODUCER
Please, you've got to hear me out--

NETWORK EXECUTIVE
Not another farking word until after I've signed you to a five-year exclusive contract!

PRODUCER
What a relief, I was afraid you'd think it was an unbelievable breach of good taste and a gigantic "fark you" to the hundreds of thousands of Americans who died fighting the very real, very unfunny Nazi menace.

NETWORK EXECUTIVE
Nah, it's fine. Although speaking of controversy, let's make sure this Negro character doesn't get more than a line or two per episode, okay?Not that it wasn't a pretty funny show, for what it was. But I wouldn't want to watch it in the room with someone's Jewish grandpa.

I have a feeling someone saw Stalag 17 and thought, "Hey, I can turn that into a comedy!"


Well, the people who made Stalag 17 actually sued over it.

And Stalag 17 was already pretty funny, but more along the lines of MASH than Hogan's Heroes in tone.

And let's not forget that all major German characters and somewhere around half the prisoners were played by Jews (many from continental Europe).

As for the reference to MASH, even the MASH TV show was far more serious than Hogan's Heroes, which is about as far from serious as you can get.
 
2013-10-17 01:42:08 PM
The scheme that amazed me was the vaulting horse tunnel. They carried diggers inside a vaulting horse and set it by the wire. The diggers had to dig down and open the shaft up. Then they entered the tunnel and began digging at the face. They had to then leave the tunnel, get back in the vaulting horse, cover up the entrance to the tunnel then be carried back inside one of the buildings.
 
2013-10-17 01:48:13 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: The scheme that amazed me was the vaulting horse tunnel. They carried diggers inside a vaulting horse and set it by the wire. The diggers had to dig down and open the shaft up. Then they entered the tunnel and began digging at the face. They had to then leave the tunnel, get back in the vaulting horse, cover up the entrance to the tunnel then be carried back inside one of the buildings.


Remember, when planning a prison system, don't put all your biggest escape risks into one place, even if it is specially designed to be escape proof. They have nothing but time to kill and will find a flaw to exploit.
 
2013-10-17 01:53:38 PM
ecx.images-amazon.com

There's a movie by the same name, 1950 British film.
 
2013-10-17 02:11:17 PM

Loreweaver: Then there was the immortal "M*A*S*H", which came out only a few years after the Korean War that it as set in.


Without checking the dates, I think M*A*S*H was about the same distance removed from Korea as  Hogan's Heroes was from WWII. ~20 years, right? The TV show, anyway, not the movie.

And I'm not saying  Hogan's Heroes was a crime against humanity or a Disgrace To Our Noble Heroes' Sacrifice, etc. Its heart was obviously in the right place. It's just fun to see how times change. I don't think we'll be seeing a reboot any time soon, and I don't think that's such an awful thing about our present-day culture.

All that having been said, while  M*A*S*H was (usually) funny, it was a whole different animal. The funny stuff that happened on  M*A*S*H was the result of people going nuts because of the stress of war, not because war itself is a bunch of harmless wacky hijinks that ends with everyone tucked safely in their cozy Nazi prison camp beds at the end of the day. One is comedy and the other is slapstick, as the late great Mr. Brady would have said.
 
2013-10-17 02:28:34 PM

semiotix: Loreweaver: Then there was the immortal "M*A*S*H", which came out only a few years after the Korean War that it as set in.

Without checking the dates, I think M*A*S*H was about the same distance removed from Korea as  Hogan's Heroes was from WWII. ~20 years, right? The TV show, anyway, not the movie.

And I'm not saying  Hogan's Heroes was a crime against humanity or a Disgrace To Our Noble Heroes' Sacrifice, etc. Its heart was obviously in the right place. It's just fun to see how times change. I don't think we'll be seeing a reboot any time soon, and I don't think that's such an awful thing about our present-day culture.

All that having been said, while  M*A*S*H was (usually) funny, it was a whole different animal. The funny stuff that happened on  M*A*S*H was the result of people going nuts because of the stress of war, not because war itself is a bunch of harmless wacky hijinks that ends with everyone tucked safely in their cozy Nazi prison camp beds at the end of the day. One is comedy and the other is slapstick, as the late great Mr. Brady would have said.


For MASH, the book was published in 1968, the movie released in 1970 and the TV show premiered in 1972.

Hogan's Heroes premiered in 1965.

Stalag 17, which I would rate about the same as the MASH movie with plenty of comedy as well as showing the serious side of war as well as being an obvious inspiration for Hogan's Heroes, was released in 1953.
 
2013-10-17 02:38:15 PM

bearded clamorer: Thudfark: Cooler!

[ryanseacrest.com image 600x450]

/so sorry


You forgot the glove and ball
 
2013-10-17 02:59:23 PM
The best homage to The Great Escape was Chicken Run.
 
2013-10-17 03:11:47 PM
I've never told anybody this before, not even my wife, but sometimes I wish I could get sent to prison...just so that I could break out.

It's like my version of the typical guy's secret spy fantasy.
 
2013-10-17 03:26:38 PM

radarlove: Cybernetic: [filmdope.com image 320x240]

/So many great actors in that movie.

Seriously.  Donald Pleasence's best role since Pumaman.

Thanks everyone, for the book recommendation!  Will pick it up at the library posthaste!


"Tea without milk is so uncivilised."
 
2013-10-17 03:27:58 PM
Came for the references to The Wooden Horse, and to say this about the movie: it's the only movie I ever watched twice in a row.  I just stayed in the theater and watched it again.
 
2013-10-17 03:34:34 PM

radarlove: I've never told anybody this before, not even my wife, but sometimes I wish I could get sent to prison...just so that I could break out.

It's like my version of the typical guy's secret spy fantasy.


Oh, we know all about your "wish I could get sent to prison" fantasy.
i404.photobucket.com
 
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