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(New York Daily News)   NFL fines Bears Brandon Marshall $10,500 for wearing green shoes in honor of mental health awareness. That's just crazy   (nydailynews.com) divider line 85
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2013-10-17 09:01:50 AM
NFL policy: Wear all the pink you want, but wear green and.....
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2013-10-17 09:20:21 AM
NFL: If we aren't making money from it, we will find a way.
 
2013-10-17 09:22:29 AM
Wow, I can't imagine that the NFL could be against mental health awareness for some reason
 
2013-10-17 09:41:28 AM
"Football is my platform not my purpose. This fine is nothing compared to the conversation started & awareness raised."

While I think it's cool that he wants to bring awareness to mental health (and doing it in a harmless way), I don't like his thinking that he can use games as a platform to get his messages out. You're paid to play football. Use your blog or twitter like Kluwe did when you want to fight for causes (well, except for Kluwe's 'Vote Ray Guy' stunt).

But fining him for different colored shoes? That's farking stupid.
 
2013-10-17 10:35:03 AM
The NFL should direct the money from his fine to a charity or study that helps mental illness issues.
 
2013-10-17 10:50:48 AM

Walker: NFL policy: Wear all the pink you want, but wear green and.....
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And I'm sure there's no way the NFL has anything to gain by having tons of pink out there.
 
2013-10-17 10:50:59 AM

scottydoesntknow: "Football is my platform not my purpose. This fine is nothing compared to the conversation started & awareness raised."

While I think it's cool that he wants to bring awareness to mental health (and doing it in a harmless way), I don't like his thinking that he can use games as a platform to get his messages out. You're paid to play football. Use your blog or twitter like Kluwe did when you want to fight for causes (well, except for Kluwe's 'Vote Ray Guy' stunt).

But fining him for different colored shoes? That's farking stupid.


So, what, it's okay to use games to raise awareness of breast cancer, but it's not okay to to use games to raise awareness of mental illnesses, a whole spectrum of diseases that affect at least six times as many people every year as have ever had breast cancer? Why is that? Because the NFL signed off on breast cancer awareness but not mental illness awareness?
 
2013-10-17 10:53:01 AM
Every time I see green shoes I think of mental health.
 
2013-10-17 10:53:50 AM

Serious Black: Because the NFL signed off on breast cancer awareness but not mental illness awareness?


Yes, because the corporate sponsors can only sell pink merchandise if EVERYONE on the field is wearing it.
 
2013-10-17 10:56:48 AM

Serious Black: scottydoesntknow: "Football is my platform not my purpose. This fine is nothing compared to the conversation started & awareness raised."

While I think it's cool that he wants to bring awareness to mental health (and doing it in a harmless way), I don't like his thinking that he can use games as a platform to get his messages out. You're paid to play football. Use your blog or twitter like Kluwe did when you want to fight for causes (well, except for Kluwe's 'Vote Ray Guy' stunt).

But fining him for different colored shoes? That's farking stupid.

So, what, it's okay to use games to raise awareness of breast cancer, but it's not okay to to use games to raise awareness of mental illnesses, a whole spectrum of diseases that affect at least six times as many people every year as have ever had breast cancer? Why is that? Because the NFL signed off on breast cancer awareness but not mental illness awareness?


Except that's not what I said at all. I said I was glad he was bringing awareness, I just don't like athletes thinking they can use a game they're paid to play to start proselytizing about various causes. Save it for off the field. You're a superstar, you have people following you. Do it then.

And honestly, I'm tired of NFL's crap regarding the wear pink campaign. It's all about the money and selling merchandise. Hell I got a greenlight last year about how a $130 pink football ends up as $6.50 in actual donations.
 
2013-10-17 11:02:29 AM

funk_soul_bubby: Every time I see green shoes I think of mental health.


That's better than every time I see pink shoes, I think of crass marketing disguised as a token effort to fund cancer research.
 
2013-10-17 11:10:01 AM
I kinda wish the NFL would allow the players to be able to wear whatever accessory color they want.  The green shoes made it impossible to not know where Marshel lined up and where Alshon was.  I kinda liked that.
 
2013-10-17 11:13:17 AM
I wouldn't feed those shoes to my dog.
 
2013-10-17 11:13:55 AM

scottydoesntknow: Serious Black: scottydoesntknow: "Football is my platform not my purpose. This fine is nothing compared to the conversation started & awareness raised."

While I think it's cool that he wants to bring awareness to mental health (and doing it in a harmless way), I don't like his thinking that he can use games as a platform to get his messages out. You're paid to play football. Use your blog or twitter like Kluwe did when you want to fight for causes (well, except for Kluwe's 'Vote Ray Guy' stunt).

But fining him for different colored shoes? That's farking stupid.

So, what, it's okay to use games to raise awareness of breast cancer, but it's not okay to to use games to raise awareness of mental illnesses, a whole spectrum of diseases that affect at least six times as many people every year as have ever had breast cancer? Why is that? Because the NFL signed off on breast cancer awareness but not mental illness awareness?

Except that's not what I said at all. I said I was glad he was bringing awareness, I just don't like athletes thinking they can use a game they're paid to play to start proselytizing about various causes. Save it for off the field. You're a superstar, you have people following you. Do it then.

And honestly, I'm tired of NFL's crap regarding the wear pink campaign. It's all about the money and selling merchandise. Hell I got a greenlight last year about how a $130 pink football ends up as $6.50 in actual donations.


That is exactly why he should continue to use the field as his platform.  He, as a sports celebrity, has a loud voice when promoting issues important to him, and to say that he shouldn't use his position is ridiculous.  The fine brings even MORE attention to the cause than his twitter ever would.

/don't agree with the "shut up and entertain me" crowd
 
2013-10-17 11:16:53 AM

scottydoesntknow: "Football is my platform not my purpose.


That worked out really well for Tebow...
 
2013-10-17 11:17:40 AM
Serious Black:

So, what, it's okay to use games to raise awareness of breast cancer, but it's not okay to to use games to raise awareness of mental illnesses, a whole spectrum of diseases that affect at least six times as many people every year as have ever had breast cancer? Why is that? Because the NFL signed off on breast cancer awareness but not mental illness awareness?

Because there is a conflict of interest.
 
2013-10-17 11:17:43 AM

TwoBeersOneCan: /don't agree with the "shut up and entertain me" crowd


I don't mind athletes/entertainers speaking their mind on a subject which is A) important to them and B) they know what they're talking about.  I do wish sports media would find it less necessary to shove a microphone in their faces after every game.  A lot of athletes have nothing of value to add to the analysis.

/"What was going through your mind when X..." is the single dumbest question in their niche of the profession.
 
2013-10-17 11:19:18 AM

UNC_Samurai: TwoBeersOneCan: /don't agree with the "shut up and entertain me" crowd

I don't mind athletes/entertainers speaking their mind on a subject which is A) important to them and B) they know what they're talking about.  I do wish sports media would find it less necessary to shove a microphone in their faces after every game.  A lot of athletes have nothing of value to add to the analysis.

/"What was going through your mind when X..." is the single dumbest question in their niche of the profession.


And the players get fined if they don't give the media time.  That's why the do it.
 
2013-10-17 11:21:13 AM

TwoBeersOneCan: That is exactly why he should continue to use the field as his platform. He, as a sports celebrity, has a loud voice when promoting issues important to him, and to say that he shouldn't use his position is ridiculous. The fine brings even MORE attention to the cause than his twitter ever would.

/don't agree with the "shut up and entertain me" crowd


Yea, that's really easy to say when it's a position everyone can agree with.
 
2013-10-17 11:24:27 AM

Beeblebrox: UNC_Samurai: TwoBeersOneCan: /don't agree with the "shut up and entertain me" crowd

I don't mind athletes/entertainers speaking their mind on a subject which is A) important to them and B) they know what they're talking about.  I do wish sports media would find it less necessary to shove a microphone in their faces after every game.  A lot of athletes have nothing of value to add to the analysis.

/"What was going through your mind when X..." is the single dumbest question in their niche of the profession.

And the players get fined if they don't give the media time.  That's why the do it.


I'm not blaming the players, I'm blaming the media.
 
2013-10-17 11:26:26 AM
What does green have to do with mental illness?
 
2013-10-17 11:27:19 AM

Super Chronic: What does green have to do with mental illness?


What does pink have to do with cancer?
 
2013-10-17 11:28:53 AM

scottydoesntknow: And honestly, I'm tired of NFL's crap regarding the wear pink campaign.


Agreed. I'm tired of everyone's wear pink campaign. To be honest the more I read about the komen foundation the less I want to give them any money. They do some good things and they do some not so good things. But mainly I'm about sick of the mega-charities being so focused on 'awareness' and throwing the scraps to real research. They should flip that upside down. I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of cancer now.
 
2013-10-17 11:29:36 AM

Beeblebrox: Super Chronic: What does green have to do with mental illness?

What does pink have to do with cancer?


Areolas are pink
 
2013-10-17 11:32:01 AM

JohnBigBootay: scottydoesntknow: And honestly, I'm tired of NFL's crap regarding the wear pink campaign.

Agreed. I'm tired of everyone's wear pink campaign. To be honest the more I read about the komen foundation the less I want to give them any money. They do some good things and they do some not so good things. But mainly I'm about sick of the mega-charities being so focused on 'awareness' and throwing the scraps to real research. They should flip that upside down. I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of cancer now.


Komen does more harm than good. They're all about the money and protecting their IP. They're extremely sue-happy regarding anyone using pink or ribbons for breast cancer awareness. And if you notice, it never says anything about research or curing. It's all about "Awareness".

/I agree, we're aware.
 
2013-10-17 11:33:28 AM

Beeblebrox: Super Chronic: What does green have to do with mental illness?

What does pink have to do with cancer?


At least pink has been pretty well-branded over the years by the Komen foundation, and people readily associate it with the cause. You seek a pink ribbon on a lapel pin and you instantly know what it's for. I've never heard of any organization that links green with mental illness.
 
2013-10-17 11:34:45 AM

Beeblebrox: Super Chronic: What does green have to do with mental illness?

What does pink have to do with cancer?


It wasn't even pink to begin with; it was peach.
 
2013-10-17 11:36:16 AM

scottydoesntknow: JohnBigBootay: scottydoesntknow: And honestly, I'm tired of NFL's crap regarding the wear pink campaign.

Agreed. I'm tired of everyone's wear pink campaign. To be honest the more I read about the komen foundation the less I want to give them any money. They do some good things and they do some not so good things. But mainly I'm about sick of the mega-charities being so focused on 'awareness' and throwing the scraps to real research. They should flip that upside down. I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of cancer now.

Komen does more harm than good. They're all about the money and protecting their IP. They're extremely sue-happy regarding anyone using pink or ribbons for breast cancer awareness. And if you notice, it never says anything about research or curing. It's all about "Awareness".

/I agree, we're aware.


No shiat. They used their marketing prowess to change the definition of cancer. You know, to get more people invested in the 'war'.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/magazine/our-feel-good-war-on-brea st -cancer.html?_r=0

I still think there are a lot of well-intentioned people there but the whole point of the thing has kind of gotten away from them of late. And their use of some statistics is so misleading it ought to be criminal. Like the shiat they do with 'five year survival' rates.
 
2013-10-17 11:40:02 AM

Super Chronic: You seek a pink ribbon on a lapel pin and you instantly know what it's for


Yep. It means I'm about to get hit up for my 11th walkathon donation of the year. You know - "for the cure"... though less than 10% of my donation will go to research. They should change the slogan to "for a bunch of posters".
 
2013-10-17 11:43:20 AM

JohnBigBootay: They should change the slogan to "for a bunch of posters".


More likely for Komen's sister to get a 7-figure salary.
 
2013-10-17 11:46:38 AM

JohnBigBootay: Super Chronic: You seek a pink ribbon on a lapel pin and you instantly know what it's for

Yep. It means I'm about to get hit up for my 11th walkathon donation of the year. You know - "for the cure"... though less than 10% of my donation will go to research. They should change the slogan to "for a bunch of posters".


Yeah yeah I know, I'm the last person to white knight or cheerlead for the Komen foundation, but you can't deny that their branding effort has been hugely successful.

I guess the answer to my question is that they had to start the branding effort somewhere, and that's what Marshall is trying to do now.
 
2013-10-17 12:04:12 PM
what's the rule that was broken? i don't get it.
 
2013-10-17 12:05:10 PM
Maybe I missed the joke, but I think that "A League of Denial" is about all the NFL wants to do with mental illnesses for quite some time.

Second, I recently became aware that September is Prostate Cancer Awareness month.  Anybody notice any type of ribbons or banners or walks or any type of shiat for this?  I thought it might be relevant to the NFL's interests since a staggering amount of people on the field at any given point in time are susceptible to prostate cancer.

But that's just me ... or maybe I missed the joke ... I dunno

And if you think this fine is unreasonable, check out Ndomakong Suh'shiat on Brandon Weeden:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24092111/nfl-reviewing- nd amukong-suhs-hit-on-brandon-weeden

He's 35k lighter for that.  Let that sink in for a minute ...

This game is becoming a joke, and we're the punchline.
 
2013-10-17 12:16:21 PM

Super Chronic: Yeah yeah I know, I'm the last person to white knight or cheerlead for the Komen foundation, but you can't deny that their branding effort has been hugely successful.


Absolutely it's been successful. The problem is their raison d'etre - getting everyone to screen more and more often - has been called into serious question by some pretty damning research on the downsides of screening. There's a very real debate going on regarding whether it does more harm than good, particularly for younger people. Same thing is happening with prostate. No easy answers. Catch some cancers early and a few live longer vs. a whole bunch of people unnecessarily undergoing chemo or cutting off their tits or removing their pleasure peanut ... talk about a rock and a hard place.
 
2013-10-17 12:16:50 PM

scottydoesntknow: Serious Black: scottydoesntknow: "Football is my platform not my purpose. This fine is nothing compared to the conversation started & awareness raised."

While I think it's cool that he wants to bring awareness to mental health (and doing it in a harmless way), I don't like his thinking that he can use games as a platform to get his messages out. You're paid to play football. Use your blog or twitter like Kluwe did when you want to fight for causes (well, except for Kluwe's 'Vote Ray Guy' stunt).

But fining him for different colored shoes? That's farking stupid.

So, what, it's okay to use games to raise awareness of breast cancer, but it's not okay to to use games to raise awareness of mental illnesses, a whole spectrum of diseases that affect at least six times as many people every year as have ever had breast cancer? Why is that? Because the NFL signed off on breast cancer awareness but not mental illness awareness?

Except that's not what I said at all. I said I was glad he was bringing awareness, I just don't like athletes thinking they can use a game they're paid to play to start proselytizing about various causes. Save it for off the field. You're a superstar, you have people following you. Do it then.

And honestly, I'm tired of NFL's crap regarding the wear pink campaign. It's all about the money and selling merchandise. Hell I got a greenlight last year about how a $130 pink football ends up as $6.50 in actual donations.


The Portland Trail Blazers last week announced they, as an entire team, support Oregon's initiative to legally recognize marriages of same-sex couples. I didn't hear about it until a single Slate reporter stumbled upon it and wrote up an article about their stance. Odds are most other people, even those living in Oregon or Portland, haven't heard about it to this point. But if the players all worse rainbow-colored headbands or some other attire to make clear their team-wide support during a nationally-televised game? Oh, you better believe everyone would hear about it!
 
2013-10-17 12:16:53 PM

scottydoesntknow: TwoBeersOneCan: That is exactly why he should continue to use the field as his platform. He, as a sports celebrity, has a loud voice when promoting issues important to him, and to say that he shouldn't use his position is ridiculous. The fine brings even MORE attention to the cause than his twitter ever would.

/don't agree with the "shut up and entertain me" crowd

Yea, that's really easy to say when it's a position everyone can agree with.


There is likely a reason why everyone can agree with it.  I'm glad we agree.
 
2013-10-17 12:25:39 PM

Waldo Pepper: The NFL should direct the money from his fine to a charity or study that helps mental illness issues.


I see what you did there....
 
KoC
2013-10-17 12:29:05 PM

JohnBigBootay: scottydoesntknow: And honestly, I'm tired of NFL's crap regarding the wear pink campaign.

Agreed. I'm tired of everyone's wear pink campaign. To be honest the more I read about the komen foundation the less I want to give them any money. They do some good things and they do some not so good things. But mainly I'm about sick of the mega-charities being so focused on 'awareness' and throwing the scraps to real research. They should flip that upside down. I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of cancer now.


The NFL works with the American Cancer Society, not Komen.
 
2013-10-17 12:31:40 PM

scottydoesntknow: Beeblebrox: Super Chronic: What does green have to do with mental illness?

What does pink have to do with cancer?

Areolas are pink


Never seen a latina booby have you?
 
2013-10-17 12:32:32 PM

scottydoesntknow: Serious Black: scottydoesntknow: "Football is my platform not my purpose. This fine is nothing compared to the conversation started & awareness raised."

While I think it's cool that he wants to bring awareness to mental health (and doing it in a harmless way), I don't like his thinking that he can use games as a platform to get his messages out. You're paid to play football. Use your blog or twitter like Kluwe did when you want to fight for causes (well, except for Kluwe's 'Vote Ray Guy' stunt).

But fining him for different colored shoes? That's farking stupid.

So, what, it's okay to use games to raise awareness of breast cancer, but it's not okay to to use games to raise awareness of mental illnesses, a whole spectrum of diseases that affect at least six times as many people every year as have ever had breast cancer? Why is that? Because the NFL signed off on breast cancer awareness but not mental illness awareness?

Except that's not what I said at all. I said I was glad he was bringing awareness, I just don't like athletes thinking they can use a game they're paid to play to start proselytizing about various causes. Save it for off the field. You're a superstar, you have people following you. Do it then.

And honestly, I'm tired of NFL's crap regarding the wear pink campaign. It's all about the money and selling merchandise. Hell I got a greenlight last year about how a $130 pink football ends up as $6.50 in actual donations.


Suzie G gots to have her cut.
 
2013-10-17 12:33:07 PM

KoC: JohnBigBootay: scottydoesntknow: And honestly, I'm tired of NFL's crap regarding the wear pink campaign.

Agreed. I'm tired of everyone's wear pink campaign. To be honest the more I read about the komen foundation the less I want to give them any money. They do some good things and they do some not so good things. But mainly I'm about sick of the mega-charities being so focused on 'awareness' and throwing the scraps to real research. They should flip that upside down. I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of cancer now.

The NFL works with the American Cancer Society, not Komen.


The American Cancer Society had over $900 million in revenues in FY11. NAMI? A paltry $10 million. I think I'd much rather see Brandon Marshall wear his green shoes than the entire NFL wear pink.
 
2013-10-17 12:36:27 PM

SafetyThird: scottydoesntknow: Beeblebrox: Super Chronic: What does green have to do with mental illness?

What does pink have to do with cancer?

Areolas are pink

Never seen a latina booby have you?


I didn't say ALL areolas are pink
 
2013-10-17 12:37:44 PM

KoC: The NFL works with the American Cancer Society, not Komen.


Ah. I didn't know that pink was cross-platform. I thought pink was a komen-only thing. At any rate their research budget isn;t much better than komen's...

http://blog.givewell.org/2010/05/18/how-the-american-cancer-society- an d-susan-g-komen-for-the-cure-spend-their-money/
 
2013-10-17 12:49:57 PM
The cause is noble, but Brandon Marshall isn't above the NFL.

If you truly want to call attention to mental illness, show it elsewhere.  Do some volunteer work at an institution or something, hell you might even get a photo-op out of it.

In the meantime, just abide by the rules that give you your guaranteed $24 million.
 
2013-10-17 12:54:27 PM
Actually I support this.  Because the whole complaints about the fine are raising even more awareness for the issue.

The issue I have is that they originally threatened to eject him from the game until that idea blew up in the media.  Ejected for something everyone else would get fined for its insane.
 
2013-10-17 12:58:27 PM

Super Chronic: Beeblebrox: Super Chronic: What does green have to do with mental illness?

I've never heard of any organization that links green with mental illness.


http://pinnaclecounselingnwa.com/going-green-to-support-national-men ta l-illness-awareness-week/

Green appears to be the color used by the National Alliance on Mental Illness uses for their awareness week.
http://www.nami.org
http://www.nami.org/template.cfm?section=mental_illness_awareness_we ek

See, now thanks to Marshall we both learned something!
 
2013-10-17 01:02:07 PM

Electromax: See, now thanks to Marshall we both learned something!


You might say we even gained... awareness. Thanks, NFL, for fining Marshall; otherwise there'd have been no Fark thread and I wouldn't have noticed!
 
2013-10-17 01:04:44 PM
He has mental health issues (bipolar disorder IIRC)
He said he was going to do this before the game.
He is perfectly happy paying this small (to him) fine, and he must've known it would happen.
The fine and subsequent discussions in the media public forums like this one only draws more attention to his cause, which is all he wanted anyway.

/nothing to see here.
 
2013-10-17 01:12:02 PM

UNC_Samurai: Beeblebrox: Super Chronic: What does green have to do with mental illness?

What does pink have to do with cancer?

It wasn't even pink to begin with; it was peach.


"Think before you pink" was not the website I expected when I clicked on it. I figured it was a pre-marital sex awareness site.
 
2013-10-17 01:22:16 PM

LessO2: The cause is noble, but Brandon Marshall isn't above the NFL.

If you truly want to call attention to mental illness, show it elsewhere.  Do some volunteer work at an institution or something, hell you might even get a photo-op out of it.

In the meantime, just abide by the rules that give you your guaranteed $24 million.


He does all that, and the media (and places like fark) don't care. So much for "truly want to call attention". He puts on a pair of shoes and pays a fine and it's in the national media. He even matched the NFL fine with a donation to the organization. Now for $21k he's gotten a lot more advertising than any television or print ad could have gotten him.

/I have no problem with the shoes OR the fine. I think it would be different if he wrote the organization's name on the shoe.
 
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