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(Talking Points Memo)   Senate votes 81-18 to reopen government, avoid default. Fat Lady last seen finishing her warm-up, and heading to the House chambers   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 1071
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2013-10-16 09:23:20 PM
And Cruz finally joined his buddies in the Surrender Caucus.
 
2013-10-16 09:23:30 PM
Awww man...I wanted to arrest teabagger Congressmen this weekend.
 
2013-10-16 09:23:32 PM
Screw them
 
2013-10-16 09:23:43 PM
Main page? Uh oh...
 
2013-10-16 09:24:05 PM
FTA:  The bill passed 81-18. Among the senators who voted against the bill: Senate Minority Whip John Cornyn (R-TX), Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Mike Lee (R-UT), Rand Paul (R-KY), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Marco Rubio (R-FL).

I know who's running for president in 2016.
 
2013-10-16 09:24:14 PM
Clearly a major outpouring of support for ObamaCare.
 
2013-10-16 09:24:42 PM

GoodDoctorB: Main page? Uh oh...


Time to break out the beer.
 
2013-10-16 09:24:45 PM
Lol  they got nothing. They are actually worse off now. Good work you farking morons.
 
2013-10-16 09:24:53 PM
Today on Political Theatre: The GOP learns why it's best to negotiate from positions of strength, and that a principled last stand is still your last stand.
 
2013-10-16 09:24:57 PM
Here we go. Finally a consolidated discussion thread.
 
2013-10-16 09:25:18 PM

CPennypacker: Lol  they got nothing. They are actually worse off now. Good work you farking morons.


They'll try to spin this around, somehow.
 
2013-10-16 09:25:43 PM
Gol. How it was worth it, stupids.
 
2013-10-16 09:25:50 PM
Great.  I'm sure we'll get another spectacular display of democracy in action and a fantastic deal when we do this again in three farking months.
 
2013-10-16 09:26:00 PM
There's more crazy in the House.
 
2013-10-16 09:26:04 PM

Sensual Tyrannosaurus: Today on Political Theatre: The GOP learns why it's best to negotiate from positions of strength, and that a principled last stand is still your last stand.


Yep.  Taking hostages you can't kill, with no exit strategy, is not good politics.
 
2013-10-16 09:26:10 PM
Now the question will be if Boner has enough leadership to get the House to pass the agreement. Sadly, I think there is a 50/50 chance that Boner will grow a spine and ignore the Hastert rule in order to pass the agreement.
 
2013-10-16 09:26:11 PM
And so in the end this whole drama was the tale told bu an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
 
2013-10-16 09:26:20 PM
Candy Crowley is involved in this?
 
2013-10-16 09:26:23 PM
after the president made that short statement a reporter in the audience shouted as he was walking away from the podium
"but mr president arent we just going to go through all this again in a few months"
and he actually stopped, turned and looked back like he was talking to a child and said "No".
i thought that was hilarious.
 
2013-10-16 09:26:34 PM

meyerkev: FTA:  The bill passed 81-18. Among the senators who voted against the bill: Senate Minority Whip John Cornyn (R-TX), Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Mike Lee (R-UT), Rand Paul (R-KY), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Marco Rubio (R-FL).

I know who's running for president in 2016.


I thought the exact same thing.
 
2013-10-16 09:26:43 PM
The Senate was never the problem, though.  It's all the stubborn Boehnerheads in the House of Representaderps.
 
2013-10-16 09:26:50 PM
This should be a great thread. Anyone got the popcorn?
 
2013-10-16 09:26:57 PM

CygnusDarius: CPennypacker: Lol  they got nothing. They are actually worse off now. Good work you farking morons.

They'll try to spin this around, somehow.


some shiat you just can't unskew
 
2013-10-16 09:26:58 PM

Mrs.Sharpier: Gol. How it was worth it, stupids.


Hope not how.

*sigh*
 
2013-10-16 09:26:59 PM
You get nothing and you little tantrum cost the country $24 Billion.

If you vote for a republican, you are either a) stupid or b) ultra wealthy.
 
2013-10-16 09:27:03 PM
I have a bad feeling about how it will do in the House.
 
2013-10-16 09:27:06 PM
I wish they'd left in the provision where the elected officials would have had to buy insurance like the rest of America.
 
2013-10-16 09:27:07 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-16 09:27:14 PM

meyerkev: FTA:  The bill passed 81-18. Among the senators who voted against the bill: Senate Minority Whip John Cornyn (R-TX), Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Mike Lee (R-UT), Rand Paul (R-KY), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Marco Rubio (R-FL).

I know who's running for president in 2016.


These men should be branded traitors and terrorists for attempting to inflict massive damage on the United States in order to forward their self-serving agendas.
 
2013-10-16 09:27:23 PM
The fat lady is going to have to make herself heard over a pack of howler moneys before she can do her thing
 
2013-10-16 09:27:48 PM

Mrs.Sharpier: Gol. How it was worth it, stupids.


Goal?.
 
2013-10-16 09:27:55 PM

sandbar67: Screw them

 
2013-10-16 09:28:04 PM
Could someone verify this part of the senate bill?

The Senate plan includes a proposal offered by McConnell in the 2011 debt ceiling crisis that allows Congress to disapprove of the debt ceiling increase, which means lawmakers will formally vote on whether to reject a debt ceiling increase until Feb. 7. Obama can veto that legislation if it passes. If Congress fails as expected to gather a two-thirds majority to override the veto, the debt ceiling would be raised.

Read more:  http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/government-shutdown-debt-ceilin g -default-update-98390.html#ixzz2hwEw5HxE
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Full text of bill: Here

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The default language begins on, I believe, the 24th page. I tried reading it by my eyes started to bleed.

If the above is true, that is goddamn hilarious. The GOP fought for two weeks and their hostages were freed without issue and their ability to take future hostages has been completely neutered.
 
2013-10-16 09:28:09 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: I have a bad feeling about how it will do in the House.


Me too.  This shiat ain't over until it's on Obama's desk.
 
2013-10-16 09:28:18 PM

Markoff_Cheney: after the president made that short statement a reporter in the audience shouted as he was walking away from the podium
"but mr president arent we just going to go through all this again in a few months"
and he actually stopped, turned and looked back like he was talking to a child and said "No".
i thought that was hilarious.


I hope he's right.
 
2013-10-16 09:28:30 PM

what_now: You get nothing and you little tantrum cost the country $24 Billion.

If you vote for a republican, you are either a) stupid or b) ultra wealthy.


Even the ultra wealthy were sweating this shiat. The only ones who liked this were the poor warriors for jesus.
 
2013-10-16 09:28:32 PM

CPennypacker: CygnusDarius: CPennypacker: Lol  they got nothing. They are actually worse off now. Good work you farking morons.

They'll try to spin this around, somehow.

some shiat you just can't unskew


They'll try to paint themselves as political masterminds. They'll pull off a Cersei.
 
2013-10-16 09:28:33 PM
This was the worst political move since I started following politics. The Iraq War was better for the GOP than this.
 
2013-10-16 09:28:33 PM
Come on; last farking minute! I wanted to riot and loot shiat.

/ I guess my neighbors can keep their sweet noggin meat :(
 
2013-10-16 09:28:47 PM
EVERYBODY CELEBRATE! (and hopefully the House looks like this afterwards. It's not like they've been running the country like an episode of 'It's Always Sunny' anyway, right?)
 
2013-10-16 09:29:01 PM

born_yesterday: Great.  I'm sure we'll get another spectacular display of democracy in action and a fantastic deal when we do this again in three farking months.


Depends.
The Republicans have learned that this maneuver kills their poll numbers. Do they want to do it again even closer to the 2014 elections?
 
2013-10-16 09:29:16 PM
So why did we hose over people again?
 
2013-10-16 09:29:25 PM

greentea1985: Now the question will be if Boner has enough leadership to get the House to pass the agreement. Sadly, I think there is a 50/50 chance that Boner will grow a spine and ignore the Hastert rule in order to pass the agreement.


Boner has already "ignored" the Hastert rule several times. It's more of a guideline.

In any case, even the American Enterprise Institute has pointed out that Boner, as Speaker, is a constitutional officer and therefore his duty is to the country and not to some idiot minority in his own party.
 
2013-10-16 09:29:37 PM
Remember those rubber president masks that the guys in Point Break wore to rob banks? Ted Cruz looks like he is wearing a mask like that of himself.
 
2013-10-16 09:29:40 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Here we go. Finally a consolidated discussion thread.


You're welcome.  :D

/two big greens in one day?
//I'll take it!
 
2013-10-16 09:29:41 PM

sillydragon: This should be a great thread. Anyone got the popcorn?


I brought Tortilla chips and salsa. Figured it would be appropriate for that whole "amnesty" thing the radioheads are screaming about.

/look, it's a long drive every day...
 
2013-10-16 09:29:44 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: I have a bad feeling about how it will do in the House.


I think they're whipped. Obama coming on and giving that speech before the vote was no accident. If the House tries to get cute now, it is ALL on them.
 
2013-10-16 09:29:45 PM
All right, which one of you wrote this in the comments?

Wait, wait, wait...After 2+ weeks of Epic Fail, 3 of the leading candidates for GOP nominee in 2016 voted AGAINST re-opening the government and not shooting the debt limit hostage.

Gawd, I know the Flying Spaghetti Monster loved me, but.....That's just awesome. Keep f#@&in' that chicken, guys.
 
2013-10-16 09:29:45 PM

CPennypacker: Lol  they got nothing. They are actually worse off now. Good work you farking morons.


Well, yeah, but at least they made sure to shake market confidence in our ability to pay bills and probably hike interest rates for us before they did it!
 
2013-10-16 09:29:46 PM

UrinalPooper: I wish they'd left in the provision where the elected officials would have had to buy insurance like the rest of America.


6/10
 
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