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2013-10-16 04:43:55 PM
The FRC is about as close to Christianity as Taco Bell is to authentic Mexican food.
 
2013-10-16 04:48:03 PM

scottydoesntknow: The FRC is about as close to Christianity as Taco Bell is to authentic Mexican food.


Another nutjob group with "family" in the name.
 
2013-10-16 04:49:32 PM
What worthless pieces of sh*t

/Jesus himself would pimp slap the hell out them
 
2013-10-16 04:50:07 PM
I wonder if these right wing Christians ever heard of the Biblically endorsed practice of the Sabbath year or the sheviit year, where the religious/governmental powers mandated that ancient Hebrews to not harvest their crops so that the poor and hungry may eat freely from their fields and trees every seventh year.
 
2013-10-16 04:50:39 PM
FTA:
Perkins, who has not sold all of his possessions to give to the poor, is also incorrect about Jesus, who actually told people to pay their taxes ("taking out of one person's pocket to give to another") to Rome in the Book of Matthew 21:22:  They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.


heh.
 
2013-10-16 04:54:24 PM
So ... not Christian. Got it.

If you support these churches, you can hardly be called Christian, either.
 
2013-10-16 04:54:55 PM

scottydoesntknow: The FRC is about as close to Christianity as Taco Bell is to authentic Mexican food.


Slightly preferable if you're really drunk?
 
2013-10-16 04:59:28 PM

RexTalionis: I wonder if these right wing Christians ever heard of the Biblically endorsed practice of the Sabbath year or the sheviit year, where the religious/governmental powers mandated that ancient Hebrews to not harvest their crops so that the poor and hungry may eat freely from their fields and trees every seventh year.


Fun fact: on those years debts were forgiven, too.

FlashHarry: Book of Matthew 21:22:  They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.


Yeah, but that was Jesus of Nazareth, what did Republican Jesus say?
 
2013-10-16 05:00:46 PM
"Is that saying the government has a responsibility to care for the poor? That's not what scripture says. The scripture handed that responsibility to you and I as members of the faith, followers of Jesus Christ," Perkins later added.

You and I are the government, you asshole.
 
2013-10-16 05:00:50 PM

RedPhoenix122: scottydoesntknow: The FRC is about as close to Christianity as Taco Bell is to authentic Mexican food.


Another nutjob group with "family" in the name.

Focus on the Family, American Family Association, Family Research Council... Good grief.

So I'm guessing "Family" really means "fundie bigot" these days?
 
2013-10-16 05:00:52 PM
Right wing Republican Christian group

Aren't the first 3 words a given, based on the 4th word?
 
2013-10-16 05:02:41 PM
Republican Christians worship Republican Jesus, not the regular one.
 
2013-10-16 05:04:53 PM
Hey, Family Research Council, your god's too busy being indicted for tax fraud.

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-10-16 05:18:47 PM
I think Jesus would have a thing or two to say about chained popup and autoplay ads, too.
 
2013-10-16 05:20:14 PM
WWJS?

That guy....
 
2013-10-16 05:24:54 PM
A) Jesus said pay your taxes. While no doubt much of that money went to the aquaduct or whatever, I doubt he would be heartbroken if some of it went to the poor.

B)  Who cares what Jesus said?  I mean the dude had an irrational hatred of fig trees.
 
2013-10-16 05:39:39 PM

AliceBToklasLives: the dude had an irrational hatred of fig trees.


Who doesn't?
 
2013-10-16 05:40:51 PM

The Onion is prophetic: Right wing Republican Christian group

Aren't the first 3 words a given, based on the 4th word?


No. There are plenty of Christians who aren't right wing Republicans. Go stop by your local soup kitchen to see them.
 
2013-10-16 05:44:55 PM

ShawnDoc: The Onion is prophetic: Right wing Republican Christian group

Aren't the first 3 words a given, based on the 4th word?

No. There are plenty of Christians who aren't right wing Republicans. Go stop by your local soup kitchen to see them.


Truth. The actually decent Christians are easy to spot, they're the ones helping people without making a big deal of it.
 
2013-10-16 05:44:56 PM
Isn't it great when God hates all the same things (and people) you hate?
 
2013-10-16 05:46:04 PM

2wolves: AliceBToklasLives: the dude had an irrational hatred of fig trees.

Who doesn't?


I once had a house with fig trees. Actually seemed like the individual trees had interconnected roots. Birds always got the figs first. So I say fig tree had it coming.
 
2013-10-16 05:46:56 PM
I don't think Jesus would take issue with the government helping the poor, but I do think he would admonish us that supporting that does not relieve us of our individual responsibility to do what we can on a personal level to help the poor.
 
2013-10-16 06:02:55 PM

Nabb1: I don't think Jesus would take issue with the government helping the poor, but I do think he would admonish us that supporting that does not relieve us of our individual responsibility to do what we can on a personal level to help the poor.


I think he would admonish the people at the Family Research Council more for 1) not doing anything on a personal level and 2) not supporting government helping the poor.
 
2013-10-16 06:09:56 PM
imageshack.us

Not only does Tony Perkins hate poor people and blacks,

"Every dead gay kid is a victory for the Family Research Council"
"Star Wars promotes homosexuality"
and .. drum roll... Promoted Boycotting Betty Crocker for baking wedding cakes for gay couples

Oh, he doesn't like President Obama either;
'Obama birth certificate a legitimate issue'... a few months before the 2012 elections
And.. reportedly paid former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke over $80,000 for his who's-who-of-racist-America mailing list in 1996.

Christ. What an asshole.
 
2013-10-16 06:19:48 PM

Nabb1: I don't think Jesus would take issue with the government helping the poor, but I do think he would admonish us that supporting that does not relieve us of our individual responsibility to do what we can on a personal level to help the poor.



thyblackman.com

You walked right into that one.
 
2013-10-16 06:19:56 PM
Certified hate group says something stupid.  Film at 11.
 
2013-10-16 06:24:10 PM
Every single Christian-affiliated political party in the OECD except for the GOP thinks that government must ensure that the least among us do not suffer from privation. For example, the British Christian People's Alliance had in their party platform this quote:

"The Christian Peoples Alliance believes that Britain will return to economic prosperity when government chooses instead to put human relationships in right order. This requires power, income and wealth to be redistributed and for greater equality to be achieved. These are deeply spiritual convictions and reflect a Biblical pattern of priorities...By the end of the next Parliament, the CPA will establish the reduction of inequality as a national target, so that the ratios of the incomes of the top 20 per cent are reduced to no more than five and a half times the incomes of the bottom 20 per cent."

The European Christian Political Movement, the continental party alliance, put similar aims in their platform:

"Social justice is a fundamental Biblical teaching and Christian-democrat notion. Social justice demands an equal regard for all. That implies a special concern for the needs of the poor, refugees, those who suffer and the powerless. It requires us to oppose exploitation and deprivation. It requires also that appropriate resources and opportunities are available. In this way, we meet the basic requirements of all and each person is able to take part in the life of the community."
 
2013-10-16 06:24:25 PM

The Onion is prophetic: Right wing Republican Christian group

Aren't the first 3 words a given, based on the 4th word?


not really. There are plenty of Democrats who are christian. Pretty sure Obama is, much to the dismay of those that think he is a seekretmooslim

The differences I've found are the republican kind want everyone to follow their version of christianity, although I'm not sure if they have decided which version that is, where the democrat type doesn't care one way or another what others believe.

/this is all based on what I've seen/read/experienced. Your mileage may vary.
 
2013-10-16 06:26:11 PM
Leftwing christianity is loving and full of care.

rightwing christianity likes to continue the Crusades and blowup brown people while giving all their money to their billionaire masters.

/Pssst: Lincoln was leftwing. the republican party and democratic parties changed wings, many a decade ago.
 
2013-10-16 06:27:49 PM
THEY CAN TELL THEIR FARKING PROBLEMS TO JESUS!!!!!
 
2013-10-16 06:28:06 PM

The Onion is prophetic: Right wing Republican Christian group

Aren't the first 3 words a given, based on the 4th word?


No, and it's sad that people think that.
 
2013-10-16 06:28:41 PM

Godscrack: [imageshack.us image 354x522]

Not only does Tony Perkins hate poor people and blacks,

"Every dead gay kid is a victory for the Family Research Council"


Actually, Tony Perkins never said this. Someone else said it about the FRC.
 
2013-10-16 06:29:18 PM
I'm not a very religious person, but I am spiritual. I really hope that if I'm fortunate enough to make it into heaven, that Jesus and I can get together, grab a case or two of great beer and watch their judgements like they are YouTube videos. Then maybe some WBC ones...

Granted, that thought alone hurts my chances, but maybe the big guy agrees.
 
2013-10-16 06:29:57 PM

Nabb1: I don't think Jesus would take issue with the government helping the poor, but I do think he would admonish us that supporting that does not relieve us of our individual responsibility to do what we can on a personal level to help the poor.


I don't think Jesus would have an issue with the government helping the poor, but I do think he'd have a problem with someone saying the government should not help the poor.  That we as a society have decided that those who need food and medical attention will have it provided through the common purse seems right out of the book of Acts.
 
2013-10-16 06:31:48 PM

bwilson27: THEY CAN TELL THEIR FARKING PROBLEMS TO JESUS!!!!!


I like him very much, but he no help with curve ball
 
2013-10-16 06:34:01 PM
So right-wingers with an Old Testament fetish are total hypocrites when it comes to their supposed doctrine.

Wow old news is exciting.
 
2013-10-16 06:34:19 PM
Hate group says what?
 
2013-10-16 06:36:59 PM
"Is that saying the government has a responsibility to care for the poor? That's not what scripture says. The scripture handed that responsibility to you and I as members of the faith, followers of Jesus Christ," Perkins later added.
"[Jesus] never said to Rome, to the Romans that, 'You guys need to make sure that you're taking out of one person's pocket to give to another.' He said, 'No, you sell all that you have and give to the poor, you take that responsibility,'" stated Perkins.


So then they are also against morality being forced upon people by government like banning gay marriage? They are against governments doing that?

*crickets*
 
2013-10-16 06:37:18 PM

Nadie_AZ: So ... not Christian. Got it.


That's not your call to make.
 
2013-10-16 06:37:23 PM
Any time these crazy groups make an announcement, the only thing anyone learns is that their god is apparently a huge dick.

/And obviously not the new testament god. Oops.
 
2013-10-16 06:39:25 PM
So dude believes the government shouldn't help the poor, but Christians should.

Aren't these the same group of idiots who also believe the US was intended to be a Christian nation(and therefore Christian government)?

So if the government is "supposed" to be Christian..and it's a Christian's obligation to help the poor....

Hmm.
 
2013-10-16 06:39:26 PM
Jesus said help the poor.

Jesus never said anything about being against gays or against abortion.

So it's bad for the government to help the poor but the government has to stop gay marriage and abortion.

How does that work?
 
2013-10-16 06:40:26 PM

grumpfuff: So dude believes the government shouldn't help the poor, but Christians should.

Aren't these the same group of idiots who also believe the US was intended to be a Christian nation(and therefore Christian government)?

So if the government is "supposed" to be Christian..and it's a Christian's obligation to help the poor....

Hmm.


It's a Christian nation -- Only when it means they pay less in taxes and they can tell other people how to live their lives.
 
2013-10-16 06:40:32 PM

Ed Grubermann: Nadie_AZ: So ... not Christian. Got it.

That's not your call to make.


Let's call in the Marines, and let God sort em out.
 
2013-10-16 06:41:08 PM

whidbey: So right-wingers with an Old Testament fetish are total hypocrites when it comes to their supposed doctrine.

Wow old news is exciting.


I think a few months in a FEMA re-education camp would fix them.
 
2013-10-16 06:41:24 PM

scottydoesntknow: The FRC is about as close to Christianity as Taco Bell is to authentic Mexican food.


And now, the "mainstream church's" thundering denunciations of these shrill and hateful outliers of civilization:

[cricket noises]

Like it or not, faithful, you're going to be lumped in with the loudest.  If you truly disagree, it's up to you to police your own.  Otherwise you have no choice but to accept that people will assume your tacit endorsement.
 
2013-10-16 06:42:11 PM

grumpfuff: it's a Christian's obligation to help the poor....


Yeah but when there are contradicting ideologies like "God helps those who help themselves" used to cancel out anything altruistic, you really gotta wonder about the structural integrity of the belief to begin with.
 
2013-10-16 06:42:41 PM

Corvus: "Is that saying the government has a responsibility to care for the poor? That's not what scripture says. The scripture handed that responsibility to you and I as members of the faith, followers of Jesus Christ," Perkins later added.
"[Jesus] never said to Rome, to the Romans that, 'You guys need to make sure that you're taking out of one person's pocket to give to another.' He said, 'No, you sell all that you have and give to the poor, you take that responsibility,'" stated Perkins.

So then they are also against morality being forced upon people by government like banning gay marriage? They are against governments doing that?

*crickets*


I doubt this guy sold everything he had and gave it to the poor either.

i.imgur.com

/oblig
 
2013-10-16 06:43:35 PM
Just because they claim to be Christian doesn't make it so -- they just want the tax break.
Same with the gung-ho chickenhawks who have found a home in the GOP -- some patriots!
It's all marketing.
 
2013-10-16 06:44:41 PM
Bootstrappy Jesus waits to pimp slap these dorks.
 
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