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(BBC)   Everyday: man collects on soccer bet. Interesting: He made the bet 15 years ago. Awesome: The bet was on whether his then 18-month-old grandson would play for the national team. UltraFark: He won £125,000   (bbc.co.uk ) divider line
    More: Spiffy, Harry Wilson, Wales, Wrexham, Gareth Bale, electrical contractor, Liverpool FC, UltraFark, national team  
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2195 clicks; posted to Sports » on 16 Oct 2013 at 5:45 PM (2 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-10-16 04:52:47 PM  
Thoughts:

The Spiffy part is for whatever friend is actually paying out on that bet.

*reads article*

What the hell kind of place lets you bet on that? How many bets have they taken from grandpas on their grandsons?
 
2013-10-16 05:48:46 PM  

IAmRight: Thoughts:

The Spiffy part is for whatever friend is actually paying out on that bet.

*reads article*

What the hell kind of place lets you bet on that? How many bets have they taken from grandpas on their grandsons?


Never been there have you?  You can lay a wager on almost anything you can dream up.
 
2013-10-16 05:49:24 PM  

IAmRight: Thoughts:

The Spiffy part is for whatever friend is actually paying out on that bet.

*reads article*

What the hell kind of place lets you bet on that? How many bets have they taken from grandpas on their grandsons?


many. I know that Chris Kirkland's dad placed a £100 bet at 100-1 on his son playing for England when he was 11. He won £10,000. But yes, in England you can conceivably walk into any betting shop and bet on anything you like.
 
2013-10-16 06:00:43 PM  
Wow, kid's only 16.

Don't worry, Liverpool will sell him for pennies on the dollar to Swansea soon enough where he will blossom.
 
2013-10-16 06:01:05 PM  
You can place a bet on just about anything over in that part of the world. Coin toss, first sneeze of the match, injury diagnosis.
 
2013-10-16 06:16:10 PM  

2wolves: Never been there have you?  You can lay a wager on almost anything you can dream up.


Only with parents. And before I had money to gamble. :/
 
2013-10-16 06:17:30 PM  
Electrical contractor Mr Edwards, of Corwen, Denbighshire, works away from home most of the year, spending one weekend a fortnight with wife Dorothy, 58.

Not sure if living the dream or not. I suppose not, but there are some months...
 
2013-10-16 07:18:08 PM  

skrame: Electrical contractor Mr Edwards, of Corwen, Denbighshire, works away from home most of the year, spending one weekend a fortnight with wife Dorothy, 58.

Not sure if living the dream or not. I suppose not, but there are some months...


The first month might be a treat but I'd be an alcoholic by the third.
 
2013-10-16 07:58:00 PM  
It's a good thing the bookmaker didn't welch on it.
 
2013-10-16 07:59:49 PM  
Congratulations, seek counselling
 
2013-10-16 08:05:16 PM  
I want in on this.  My son has quite the boot for a one year old.  Although with my luck this will happen:

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2013-10-16 09:22:04 PM  
One thing I learned from streaming skysports on an English feed is that they love their gambling. Every other ad is for some sort of internet casino
 
2013-10-16 09:29:14 PM  

uncoveror: It's a good thing the bookmaker didn't welch on it.


The bet was with William Hill, one of the most well known and wide spread bookies in the the UK. They are rolling in cash and I'm sure they don't make much of a loss on these types of bet.

I guess in the Puritanical states of America it is hard to imagine a bookmakers on every street corner (practically these days), gambling ads on TV, multiple casinos in every city and unfettered access to internet gambling.
 
2013-10-16 09:48:03 PM  

Faddy: uncoveror: It's a good thing the bookmaker didn't welch on it.

The bet was with William Hill, one of the most well known and wide spread bookies in the the UK. They are rolling in cash and I'm sure they don't make much of a loss on these types of bet.

I guess in the Puritanical states of America it is hard to imagine a bookmakers on every street corner (practically these days), gambling ads on TV, multiple casinos in every city and unfettered access to internet gambling.


Yeah, gambling is pretty much endemic. When I was in uni, there were kids who paid their bills (or tried) through sports betting arbitrage of one sort or another, or by playing poker. They grow up with it.

One of the simplest tricks in soccer is to bet on a tie. Fans never do that and therefore its where the bookies make their money.
 
2013-10-16 10:18:33 PM  

Faddy: uncoveror: It's a good thing the bookmaker didn't welch on it.

The bet was with William Hill, one of the most well known and wide spread bookies in the the UK. They are rolling in cash and I'm sure they don't make much of a loss on these types of bet.


I'd guess (wager?) that William Hill gets back whatever they paid out in the free publicity that this story is generating.
 
2013-10-16 10:46:21 PM  

Cybernetic: Faddy: uncoveror: It's a good thing the bookmaker didn't welch on it.

The bet was with William Hill, one of the most well known and wide spread bookies in the the UK. They are rolling in cash and I'm sure they don't make much of a loss on these types of bet.

I'd guess (wager?) that William Hill gets back whatever they paid out in the free publicity that this story is generating.


I always wonder what kind of props you can get for NFL. Obviously, weird soccer bets are their bread and butter, but how much do they make on non-English sports like baseball, basketball, hockey, and of course, NFL and college football?
 
2013-10-16 11:36:09 PM  

IAmRight: Thoughts:

The Spiffy part is for whatever friend is actually paying out on that bet.

*reads article*

What the hell kind of place lets you bet on that? How many bets have they taken from grandpas on their grandsons?


1:2500 odds... take 50pounds from 2501+ people...profit.
 
2013-10-17 01:02:21 AM  
could make a great gerber life commercial. only 50 a month and if your child reaches 18, 125k payout for college.

/never thought of paying one time to a bookie.
//for the kids
///nice
 
2013-10-17 01:51:54 AM  

Faddy: I guess in the Puritanical states of America it is hard to imagine a bookmakers on every street corner (practically these days), gambling ads on TV, multiple casinos in every city and unfettered access to internet gambling.


Thats because Americans hate our freedoms.  They hate us because we're free to drink and gamble at 18, and because they hate freedom.
 
2013-10-17 02:54:57 AM  

LemSkroob: IAmRight: Thoughts:

The Spiffy part is for whatever friend is actually paying out on that bet.

*reads article*

What the hell kind of place lets you bet on that? How many bets have they taken from grandpas on their grandsons?

1:2500 odds... take 50pounds from 2501+ people...profit.


and considering the number of drunken insane irrational dads, moms, and grandparents that might bet on their kid (grandkid) playing for the national team, i've got to believe 1:2500 is a great deal for the bookie.  there aren't a lot of spots on a national team...
 
HBK
2013-10-17 03:46:13 AM  

A Fark Handle: LemSkroob: IAmRight: Thoughts:

The Spiffy part is for whatever friend is actually paying out on that bet.

*reads article*

What the hell kind of place lets you bet on that? How many bets have they taken from grandpas on their grandsons?

1:2500 odds... take 50pounds from 2501+ people...profit.

and considering the number of drunken insane irrational dads, moms, and grandparents that might bet on their kid (grandkid) playing for the national team, i've got to believe 1:2500 is a great deal for the bookie.  there aren't a lot of spots on a national team...


Not only that, but now that this story hit the news, I bet bookies are going to get bets from every dad or granddad that thinks their kid is going to be special. The bookies will make a killing.
 
2013-10-17 05:57:48 AM  
Manageress. That is all.
 
2013-10-17 07:14:48 AM  
They take bets on Pro Wrestling...
 
2013-10-17 10:38:31 AM  

A Fark Handle: LemSkroob: IAmRight: Thoughts:

The Spiffy part is for whatever friend is actually paying out on that bet.

*reads article*

What the hell kind of place lets you bet on that? How many bets have they taken from grandpas on their grandsons?

1:2500 odds... take 50pounds from 2501+ people...profit.

and considering the number of drunken insane irrational dads, moms, and grandparents that might bet on their kid (grandkid) playing for the national team, i've got to believe 1:2500 is a great deal for the bookie.  there aren't a lot of spots on a national team...


When I read 2500:1 I thought "what shiatty odds" - I mean if the babies grandfather and father played for the national team, OK, there's some history there - but for you're average schmuck off the street 2500:1 is practically stealing.  As a bookie I'd pay the local hospital to drop an advert in every bassinet  if people are going to be taking those odds.
 
2013-10-17 10:43:45 AM  

Trocadero: Cybernetic: Faddy: uncoveror: It's a good thing the bookmaker didn't welch on it.

The bet was with William Hill, one of the most well known and wide spread bookies in the the UK. They are rolling in cash and I'm sure they don't make much of a loss on these types of bet.

I'd guess (wager?) that William Hill gets back whatever they paid out in the free publicity that this story is generating.

I always wonder what kind of props you can get for NFL. Obviously, weird soccer bets are their bread and butter, but how much do they make on non-English sports like baseball, basketball, hockey, and of course, NFL and college football?


I'm sure they do well.  You can probably find a way to lay bets with them from the US.  Back in the mid-90s I had an account with Bowman International in England.  They had an 800 number and you set up an account and wired money through Western Union to it and then bet away.  You could call up and have a bank to bank wire or a check mailed to you to collect any part of your money.

I did pretty well on College hoops, but not so much with the NBA.  Once laid a 10 game parlay for $50 at 850:1.  Missed it by ONE point.  Timberwolves threw up a buzzer beater half court shot to end the game and it blew the spread against the Knicks.  I was jumping around like a mad man with seconds to go, counting my money and then it all crashed down on me in an instant.
 
2013-10-17 11:58:40 AM  
Seth'n'Spectrum:


One of the simplest tricks in soccer is to bet on a tie. Fans never do that and therefore its where the bookies make their money.


If "fans never do that," how do the bookies make money on it?
 
2013-10-17 01:47:55 PM  

wynswrld: Seth'n'Spectrum:


One of the simplest tricks in soccer is to bet on a tie. Fans never do that and therefore its where the bookies make their money.


If "fans never do that," how do the bookies make money on it?


I would assume that in the event of a tie, people who bet on either side to win (which would be the vast majority of bets) all lose and the bookies keep the money from both sides. They only pay off on the relatively few who bet on the tie.
 
2013-10-17 05:05:41 PM  
How on earth do they calculate the odds on something like this?
 
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