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(Washington Post)   Why tea partiers killed Boehner's last offer: No spending cuts, entitlement guts, or birth control bans   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 22
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2013-10-16 10:41:38 AM  
4 votes:
The Tea Party is an odd mixture of fiscal absolutists and fiscal absolutist theocrats, with the latter accepting the former because they are the only other fiscal absolutists out there. All the while, they keep telling each other that the Tea Party is only about fiscal issues, not social issues, while electing people who promise to prosecute women who have miscarriages. The dissonance is bizarre.
2013-10-16 10:28:57 AM  
4 votes:
Look if they were just insisting on misguided financial parsimony I might think they were something other than a bunch of Dominionist theocrats. But since they keep pushing these reproductive health issues to the fore its obvious they are just insane zealots.

Because nothing would be more productive to the financial well being of the country than comprehensive care for women and children. Want to cut entitlement programs? Simplest way to do that is provide free and safe reproductive health care.

But... no. They want to watch the world burn because thats what Jesus would do.
2013-10-16 01:49:55 PM  
3 votes:

Curious: Kuroshin: But then you have to agree to the social contract, which as we know is just another term for  socialism!!!!

you have to be a blithering idiot to not see the good in SS and medicare. especially anyone who has lived through both the dot com bust and the fark up that was the latter Bush years. (ok all the bush years) anyone of upper middle income or below who thinks they can count on nothing more than themselves for their golden years is delusional. in a perfect world, sure. in what we have been through and what we are looking at, oh hell no.

those folks with the "keep the government out of my medicare" signs have it right even if they have no idea why. repeal the ACA, privatize medicare with vouchers and watch those folks writhe in pain under crushing medical debt.



No joke.  I used to work as a health care vendor, and they would be absolutely astounded the costs we as a Nation absorb via Medicare so that they can stay healthy enough into their crotchety geriatric years to march on D.C. and yell at clouds.

I'm not a fan of the ACA (prefer some form of single payer, with private gilding via optional plans), but these people aren't against the ACA - they're just against Democrats.  They are both stupid *and* insane, and they've somehow managed to seize control of juuuust enough of one party to derail the entire goddamn country.

Because socialism...or something.
2013-10-16 12:40:03 PM  
3 votes:
It's funny that the word "entitlement" is used as a pejorative by some.

The way I see it, I paid into it my whole working life. Hell yes I'm entitled to it.
2013-10-16 12:54:54 PM  
2 votes:
TV's Vinnie:How in the Hell did these batsh*ts become the Masters of all our Destinies????????

Apparently no one is willing to lower themselves to telling the looney tunes to go back to hicksville.
2013-10-16 12:50:00 PM  
2 votes:
wintersoldier1.files.wordpress.com
How in the Hell did these batsh*ts become the Masters of all our Destinies????????
2013-10-16 12:17:10 PM  
2 votes:
The only good that could possible come out of the last 2 weeks is the end of the Hastert Rule, which fundamentally circumvents the process of bipartisanship deal making and has inexplicably allowed a small minority to hold the rest of the country hostage.
2013-10-16 11:07:13 AM  
2 votes:

Nadie_AZ: T-Servo: That's pure Galt.

I thought these were leeches? They aren't producing anything.


I think that's a matter of perspective. If you work hard and receive any aid from the government, you're a leech.

If you deliberately crash the economy and profit from it, you're a 1%er and proud of it.

/personally hate Galt, Rand and all their fans
2013-10-16 10:53:04 AM  
2 votes:

tobcc: Marcus Aurelius: It's not over yet.  Ted Cruz can still put a wrench in the works for a day or two.  The stock markets wouldn't like it, but Ted just doesn't seem to care.

I read his wife is a stock broker and she is the one who pays the bills. I am sure he will here about it, and it would hit him personally in the wallet.

"Heidi Cruz -- Mrs. Ted Cruz -- is a vice president in the Private Wealth Management Group at Goldman Sachs in Houston, where she manages the investments of high net worth clients. "


Goldman Sachs makes money no matter which way the market moves.  As long as they know which way it's headed first.  Which means Ted will be OK with his wife as long as he tells her everything that happens in DC, and keeps her appraised of his insanity level.
2013-10-16 10:45:53 AM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: It's not over yet.  Ted Cruz can still put a wrench in the works for a day or two.  The stock markets wouldn't like it, but Ted just doesn't seem to care.


I read his wife is a stock broker and she is the one who pays the bills. I am sure he will here about it, and it would hit him personally in the wallet.

"Heidi Cruz -- Mrs. Ted Cruz -- is a vice president in the Private Wealth Management Group at Goldman Sachs in Houston, where she manages the investments of high net worth clients. "
2013-10-16 08:24:17 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: [wintersoldier1.files.wordpress.com image 553x369]
How in the Hell did these batsh*ts become the Masters of all our Destinies????????


That woman (and so many teabaggers, for that matter) always remind me of the guy Jesse Custer asks "Where the f/ck is your chin?"
2013-10-16 02:55:36 PM  
1 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: They thought we were pussy liberals who would cave at the first sign of stiff resistance


I'll bet there are many teabaggers across the country right now, going "How come the libs fought back? They're not supposed to fight back! None of the libs ever fight back when they're on Fox News. I demand a law that all libs be prohibited from ever fighting back and we should win every time!"
2013-10-16 02:49:02 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: [wintersoldier1.files.wordpress.com image 553x369]
How in the Hell did these batsh*ts become the Masters of all our Destinies????????


Because we were trying to avoid this fight. Unfortunately they pushed until this fight was inevitable and now we won't back down. They thought we were pussy liberals who would cave at the first sign of stiff resistance, because we gave them everything we could afford to give in previous negotiations to avoid this crisis.

Now if the economy has to burn then it has to burn, because there is nothing left that we will give them. To put it in the parlance of the day, they took hostages and we negotiated in good faith the first time. Well they have taken hostages and this time we are assaulting their position to rescue the hostages. If they shoot the hostages that will be a tragedy, but it is on them.
2013-10-16 02:24:59 PM  
1 votes:

CPennypacker: I guess I just don't get it. Are they supposed to be funny?


they can be. Most of the funnier ones have too-strong-for-fark language (or are animated and too big for Fark to post) so i don't use them personally. I think it's more a slight humiliation - your victim is being shut-down by pastel cartoon ponies.

It helps the show itself is very decent and fun, if you're subjected to kids shows it's definitely one of the least objectionable (funny given its roots as a strictly toy-selling series).
2013-10-16 01:44:02 PM  
1 votes:
But spending cuts, entitlement guts and birth control bans are all things that should be done through legislation, not funding debates.  Why won't they do things the constitutional way?  Why do they hate the constitution?  Are they trying to be dictators?  'Cuz that sounds like something an unconstitutional dictator might do.

Which brings up another bit of cognizant dissonance:  if Obama is being an Emperor/Dictator/King/Whatever, would we even have had this legislative brouhaha?  Or would a dictator simply have ordered the military to surround the congress building and order them to pass things his way, or start shooting GOP asswipes if they didn't?  Not that that wouldn't be the best hour of CSPAN ever but that's not what he did.  So, in acting constitutionally, Obama was acting like a dictator?  Make that make sense to me.
2013-10-16 12:41:40 PM  
1 votes:

zarberg: It's funny that the word "entitlement" is used as a pejorative by some.

The way I see it, I paid into it my whole working life. Hell yes I'm entitled to it.


But then you have to agree to the social contract, which as we know is just another term for  socialism!!!!
2013-10-16 12:24:30 PM  
1 votes:

Soup4Bonnie: Can't wait to do this again in a few months.  So exciting!


I'm sure the GOP can't wait to take another beating in the polls just as primary season starts to heat up.
2013-10-16 11:11:58 AM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: tobcc: Marcus Aurelius: It's not over yet.  Ted Cruz can still put a wrench in the works for a day or two.  The stock markets wouldn't like it, but Ted just doesn't seem to care.

I read his wife is a stock broker and she is the one who pays the bills. I am sure he will here about it, and it would hit him personally in the wallet.

"Heidi Cruz -- Mrs. Ted Cruz -- is a vice president in the Private Wealth Management Group at Goldman Sachs in Houston, where she manages the investments of high net worth clients. "

Goldman Sachs makes money no matter which way the market moves.  As long as they know which way it's headed first.  Which means Ted will be OK with his wife as long as he tells her everything that happens in DC, and keeps her appraised of his insanity level.


They have a good business model.  They get billions from the Treasury at 0% interest and buy Treasury Bills so the Government can pay them interest.
2013-10-16 10:52:41 AM  
1 votes:

tobcc: Marcus Aurelius: It's not over yet.  Ted Cruz can still put a wrench in the works for a day or two.  The stock markets wouldn't like it, but Ted just doesn't seem to care.

I read his wife is a stock broker and she is the one who pays the bills. I am sure he will here about it, and it would hit him personally in the wallet.

"Heidi Cruz -- Mrs. Ted Cruz -- is a vice president in the Private Wealth Management Group at Goldman Sachs in Houston, where she manages the investments of high net worth clients. "


She's also been calling for shorting T-bills, so like Cantor, Cruz and company would profit from everyone else getting burned. That's pure Galt.
2013-10-16 10:47:34 AM  
1 votes:
sorry, but no, the tea party is blowing it out of their ass...  they're an odd mix of explosive materials that have farked our country into being a useless country (especially without the o) that the rest of the world now has no faith or trust in.  thanks for the isolationist tactics.  jackwads.
2013-10-16 10:17:25 AM  
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: Today, with Senators close to a deal to reopen the government and lift the debt limit, John Boehner may finally have to come to terms with those two facts, and accept their implications: The only way out of this mess is through an alliance of non-Tea Party Republicans and Democrats.

Could have done this a long time ago and avoided everything, but nooooooo. That would have been hard.


Let me float a hypothesis here:  Boehner thinks that by caving in to the Teabaggers he is laying the
groundwork for maintaining the GOP majority in the House come 2014.

Boehner, therefore, is a moron.
2013-10-16 10:06:44 AM  
1 votes:
Today, with Senators close to a deal to reopen the government and lift the debt limit, John Boehner may finally have to come to terms with those two facts, and accept their implications: The only way out of this mess is through an alliance of non-Tea Party Republicans and Democrats.

Could have done this a long time ago and avoided everything, but nooooooo. That would have been hard.
 
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