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2013-10-16 10:32:54 AM
The Tea Party reminds me of Mr. Peck from Ghostbusters - He ordered the containment grid shut off and then blamed the resulting disaster on the Ghostbusters.  And I guess that would make Obama the Ghostbusters...well, at least Winston.
 
2013-10-16 10:38:04 AM
 "paying off" must mean "not shiatting the bed you sleep in"


No, there's no optics here, just pure idiocy from Tea Party Republicans.
 
2013-10-16 10:40:16 AM
He's so dreamy, and the Tea Party is just like yuck!
 
2013-10-16 10:41:22 AM

UberDave: The Tea Party reminds me of Mr. Peck from Ghostbusters - He ordered the containment grid shut off and then blamed the resulting disaster on the Ghostbusters.  And I guess that would make Obama the Ghostbusters...well, at least Winston.


It certainly can be said of Boehner "yes, this man has no dick".
 
2013-10-16 10:41:49 AM
Mr. Boehner, at an August fund-raiser in Idaho, promised "a whale of a fight."

A big, half-white whale, which they've been pursuing unsuccessfully for years, until their own obsession ends up being their destruction because they forgot there are other, easier whales to pursue and make into lamps.
 
2013-10-16 10:41:57 AM

UberDave: The Tea Party reminds me of Mr. Peck from Ghostbusters - He ordered the containment grid shut off and then blamed the resulting disaster on the Ghostbusters.  And I guess that would make Obama the Ghostbusters...well, at least Winston.


farm3.staticflickr.com
=Tea Party Derp?
 
2013-10-16 10:42:23 AM

UberDave: The Tea Party reminds me of Mr. Peck from Ghostbusters - He ordered the containment grid shut off and then blamed the resulting disaster on the Ghostbusters.  And I guess that would make Obama the Ghostbusters...well, at least Winston.


So Ted Cruz has no d!ck.  I suspected as much.
 
2013-10-16 10:42:27 AM
 
2013-10-16 10:44:03 AM
All Hail the Glorious Leader! We didn't need that branch of government getting in the way!
 
2013-10-16 10:44:14 AM
Signs Indicate That Obama's Debt Ceiling Gamble May Be Paying Off

Fark you.  There is no "gamble" in refusing to capitulate to hostage-taking terrorists.  It's the GOP that is gambling with the country's future.  If anything, Obama's "gamble" has been to allow the GOP to be involved whatsoever in the process of governance, and that gamble has in no way paid off.
 
2013-10-16 10:44:30 AM

BullBearMS: Meanwhile, back in reality...

Voters are fed up with Congress and want to throw the bums out.

That's one takeaway from a Pew Research Center poll released Tuesday that shows a record 74% of registered voters would like to see most members of Congress defeated in 2014.


That's always true. The voters always want Congress thrown out, except for their guy. He's great!
 
2013-10-16 10:44:59 AM

UberDave: The Tea Party reminds me of Mr. Peck from Ghostbusters - He ordered the containment grid shut off and then blamed the resulting disaster on the Ghostbusters.  And I guess that would make Obama the Ghostbusters...well, at least Winston.


And Joe Biden is Louis.
 
2013-10-16 10:46:13 AM

BullBearMS: Meanwhile, back in reality...

Voters are fed up with Congress and want to throw the bums out.

That's one takeaway from a Pew Research Center poll released Tuesday that shows a record 74% of registered voters would like to see most members of Congress defeated in 2014.


Whoop de doo, it doesn't matter given gerrymandering.  Hooray.
 
2013-10-16 10:46:43 AM

UberDave: The Tea Party reminds me of Mr. Peck from Ghostbusters - He ordered the containment grid shut off and then blamed the resulting disaster on the Ghostbusters.  And I guess that would make Obama the Ghostbusters...well, at least Winston.


Yes, it's true, this man has no dick.
 
2013-10-16 10:47:21 AM

Carn: UberDave: The Tea Party reminds me of Mr. Peck from Ghostbusters - He ordered the containment grid shut off and then blamed the resulting disaster on the Ghostbusters.  And I guess that would make Obama the Ghostbusters...well, at least Winston.

It certainly can be said of Boehner "yes, this man has no dick".


*tiny fist of internet rage*
 
2013-10-16 10:47:49 AM

BullBearMS: Meanwhile, back in reality...

Voters are fed up with Congress and want to throw the bums out.

That's one takeaway from a Pew Research Center poll released Tuesday that shows a record 74% of registered voters would like to see most members of Congress defeated in 2014.


Congressional approval ratings are as useless of a stat as pitching wins in baseball.
 
2013-10-16 10:49:42 AM
Nothing is signed or voted on yet.

My money is still on default. What happens today will be in the history books as the nail in the coffin of the US's world leadership. I hope I'm wrong.
 
2013-10-16 10:49:49 AM
The teahadists have managed to destroy the republican brand with absolutely no help from the democrats.Such sweet,sweet irony.
 
2013-10-16 10:50:59 AM
ikanreed:  gerrymandering.

Careful man, if you say it three times, HE appears!
 
2013-10-16 10:51:03 AM
It's not over till it's over.
 
2013-10-16 10:51:26 AM

Wellon Dowd: BullBearMS: Meanwhile, back in reality...

Voters are fed up with Congress and want to throw the bums out.

That's one takeaway from a Pew Research Center poll released Tuesday that shows a record 74% of registered voters would like to see most members of Congress defeated in 2014.

That's always true. The voters always want Congress thrown out, except for their guy. He's great!


It's not even that.  It's just that voters are rarely given any real choice.  It's not "reelect your bum or get a new fresh guy with ethics and integrity" it's "reelect your bum or get the other party's bum."
 
2013-10-16 10:51:30 AM

trivial use of my dark powers: Carn: UberDave: The Tea Party reminds me of Mr. Peck from Ghostbusters - He ordered the containment grid shut off and then blamed the resulting disaster on the Ghostbusters.  And I guess that would make Obama the Ghostbusters...well, at least Winston.

It certainly can be said of Boehner "yes, this man has no dick".

*tiny fist of internet rage*


While he's speaker, I'm never gonna miss the chance to make a lame boner joke.
 
2013-10-16 10:52:04 AM

log_jammin: Nothing is signed or voted on yet.

My money is still on default. What happens today will be in the history books as the nail in the coffin of the US's world leadership. I hope I'm wrong.


I'm given to understand default won't actually happen for the same reason it didn't happen last time we brushed past a deadline.  There are accounting tricks that can be used to take some specific monetary arrangements to defer a default briefly.  Last time it was weeks.
 
2013-10-16 10:52:31 AM

log_jammin: Nothing is signed or voted on yet.

My money is still on default. What happens today will be in the history books as the nail in the coffin of the US's world leadership. I hope I'm wrong.


My prediction: There will be a last-minute, short term deal kicking the can down the road, andboth parties in Congress and the presidentwill be patting themselves on the back,and then ina few months we can do this all over again!
 
2013-10-16 10:54:28 AM

TwoBeersOneCan: ikanreed:  gerrymandering.

Careful man, if you say it three times, HE appears!


Huh?  What?  I literally have no idea what you're talking about.
 
2013-10-16 10:55:27 AM
www.jamesaltucher.com
"Hey, Tea Party! Thanks for fighting the good fight and picking up where I left off!"
 
2013-10-16 10:56:23 AM
Remember when I said invading Syria is a done deal?

Default is a done deal, it has been the plan all along.


/crosses fingers

Here's hoping I continue my losing streak.
 
2013-10-16 10:56:44 AM

ikanreed: TwoBeersOneCan: ikanreed:  gerrymandering.

Careful man, if you say it three times, HE appears!

Huh?  What?  I literally have no idea what you're talking about.


The idiot with his Go picture and Nate Silver quote.  Cmon, you know who it is.
 
2013-10-16 10:56:51 AM

Smoking GNU: UberDave: The Tea Party reminds me of Mr. Peck from Ghostbusters - He ordered the containment grid shut off and then blamed the resulting disaster on the Ghostbusters.  And I guess that would make Obama the Ghostbusters...well, at least Winston.

[farm3.staticflickr.com image 640x446]
=Tea Party Derp?


If you go mass-to-ratio, that may be a BIG Twinkie...but it sure won't be very dense.
 
2013-10-16 10:57:08 AM

ikanreed: log_jammin: Nothing is signed or voted on yet.

My money is still on default. What happens today will be in the history books as the nail in the coffin of the US's world leadership. I hope I'm wrong.

I'm given to understand default won't actually happen for the same reason it didn't happen last time we brushed past a deadline.  There are accounting tricks that can be used to take some specific monetary arrangements to defer a default briefly.  Last time it was weeks.


We didn't go past the deadline last time.

I think you're thinking of the sequester.
 
2013-10-16 10:57:48 AM
 
2013-10-16 10:58:26 AM

Emposter: ikanreed: TwoBeersOneCan: ikanreed:  gerrymandering.

Careful man, if you say it three times, HE appears!

Huh?  What?  I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

The idiot with his Go picture and Nate Silver quote.  Cmon, you know who it is.


Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope.
 
2013-10-16 10:58:41 AM

ikanreed: TwoBeersOneCan: ikanreed:  gerrymandering.

Careful man, if you say it three times, HE appears!

Huh?  What?  I literally have no idea what you're talking about.


Him. He who must not be named.

theeverlastinggopstoppers.com
 
2013-10-16 10:59:30 AM
So his glorious leadership skills boil down to playing chicken with the "teahadists" and hoping they are not, actually, batshiat insane.
...and if it turns out there is a tiny flaw in this plan, I take it he's not supposed to share any of the responsibility for its outcome?
 
2013-10-16 10:59:55 AM

ikanreed: log_jammin: Nothing is signed or voted on yet.

My money is still on default. What happens today will be in the history books as the nail in the coffin of the US's world leadership. I hope I'm wrong.

I'm given to understand default won't actually happen for the same reason it didn't happen last time we brushed past a deadline.  There are accounting tricks that can be used to take some specific monetary arrangements to defer a default briefly.  Last time it was weeks.


We already did that.  We're riding on those tricks right now.  The money runs out by the end of the month - completely.  November 1 is Doomsday.  The only thing that allows us to ride until then is current revenue.  We're out of tricks, save for one...
 
2013-10-16 10:59:57 AM

Karma Chameleon: log_jammin: Nothing is signed or voted on yet.

My money is still on default. What happens today will be in the history books as the nail in the coffin of the US's world leadership. I hope I'm wrong.

My prediction: There will be a last-minute, short term deal kicking the can down the road, andboth parties in Congress and the presidentwill be patting themselves on the back,and then ina few months we can do this all over again!


And confidence in the us economy declines, the dollar weakens, less and less investment in T bills, etc...

Either way means bad new for the US.
 
2013-10-16 11:01:05 AM

ikanreed: log_jammin: Nothing is signed or voted on yet.

My money is still on default. What happens today will be in the history books as the nail in the coffin of the US's world leadership. I hope I'm wrong.

I'm given to understand default won't actually happen for the same reason it didn't happen last time we brushed past a deadline.  There are accounting tricks that can be used to take some specific monetary arrangements to defer a default briefly.  Last time it was weeks.


The Treasury technically ran out of money in May. They've been using extraordinary measures (juggling items) since then.

If the ceiling isn't raised this time, the Treasury really will lack the funds to pay all the bills.
 
2013-10-16 11:03:10 AM

Carn: UberDave: The Tea Party reminds me of Mr. Peck from Ghostbusters - He ordered the containment grid shut off and then blamed the resulting disaster on the Ghostbusters.  And I guess that would make Obama the Ghostbusters...well, at least Winston.

It certainly can be said of Boehner "yes, this man has no dick".


The honorable speaker has replaced his sack and rubles with a tube running from gin flask, so when he pisses he drinks.
 
2013-10-16 11:03:24 AM

way south: So his glorious leadership skills boil down to playing chicken with the "teahadists" and hoping they are not, actually, batshiat insane.
...and if it turns out there is a tiny flaw in this plan, I take it he's not supposed to share any of the responsibility for its outcome?


Panetta had quite a few rude words about said "leadership" the other day.

"We govern either by leadership or crisis. ... If leadership is not there, then we govern by crisis," Panetta said at the start of the session, sponsored by The Wall Street Journal. "Clearly, this town has been governing by crisis after crisis after crisis."
 
2013-10-16 11:04:11 AM

Emposter: ikanreed: TwoBeersOneCan: ikanreed:  gerrymandering.

Careful man, if you say it three times, HE appears!

Huh?  What?  I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

The idiot with his Go picture and Nate Silver quote.  Cmon, you know who it is.


The guy who made a good point and the only rebuttal he seemed to get was "lol wall of text!"?

I think I remember him.
 
2013-10-16 11:08:05 AM

way south: So his glorious leadership skills boil down to playing chicken with the "teahadists" and hoping they are not, actually, batshiat insane.
...and if it turns out there is a tiny flaw in this plan, I take it he's not supposed to share any of the responsibility for its outcome?


So your solution is to bypass what the constitution lays out for how laws are passed and repealed because they might just be crazy enough to go through with the threat.

OK...
 
2013-10-16 11:09:25 AM

eraser8: ikanreed: log_jammin: Nothing is signed or voted on yet.

My money is still on default. What happens today will be in the history books as the nail in the coffin of the US's world leadership. I hope I'm wrong.

I'm given to understand default won't actually happen for the same reason it didn't happen last time we brushed past a deadline.  There are accounting tricks that can be used to take some specific monetary arrangements to defer a default briefly.  Last time it was weeks.

The Treasury technically ran out of money in May. They've been using extraordinary measures (juggling items) since then.

If the ceiling isn't raised this time, the Treasury really will lack the funds to pay all the bills.


Nice, I guess no one really covered that in May.  Thanks, various people in this thread who informed me better.

Too bad I'm not legally allowed to shot-sell stock...
 
2013-10-16 11:09:56 AM

log_jammin: Karma Chameleon: log_jammin: Nothing is signed or voted on yet.

My money is still on default. What happens today will be in the history books as the nail in the coffin of the US's world leadership. I hope I'm wrong.

My prediction: There will be a last-minute, short term deal kicking the can down the road, andboth parties in Congress and the presidentwill be patting themselves on the back,and then ina few months we can do this all over again!

And confidence in the us economy declines, the dollar weakens, less and less investment in T bills, etc...

Either way means bad new for the US.


Meh, let someone else take over dealing with the rest of the world. Germany seems to have their shiat together moreso than anyone else right now. I'm sure given a third chance on the world stage, they probably won't go go all crazy again, right?
 
2013-10-16 11:10:10 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Signs Indicate That Obama's Debt Ceiling Gamble May Be Paying Off

Fark you.  There is no "gamble" in refusing to capitulate to hostage-taking terrorists.  It's the GOP that is gambling with the country's future.  If anything, Obama's "gamble" has been to allow the GOP to be involved whatsoever in the process of governance, and that gamble has in no way paid off.


But, I thought he was a right-of-center moderate.

Pick a story and go with it, libs.  Say what you will about the right, they pegged Obama from the start - a radical, narcissistic ideologue, incapable of working with anyone but sycophants.

Cheer that if you want, by all means.  But don't deny Obama's role in the games being played; the last 5 years have been a series of repeated partisan pissing contests, precipitated by sweeping legislation being pushed through on a budget reconciliation loophole without a single vote from the opposition.  Sure, you have your victory, but at what cost?  Excluding the fact that the Obama flat out lied about how the bill would impact people (lower costs, keep your doctor, keep your health plan, keep your job), your side has also created an environment of absolute blind partisanship.  Those things aren't good for the country.  Dems actions have invigorated the very radical opposition you claim to hate so much, and inflamed the passions of that opposition to the degree that you'll be unable to accomplish ANYTHING in your legislative agenda.  You guys bet the farm on one bill (a shiatty one to boot), and won - but lost the ability to accomplish anything else.

Your hostage-taking terrorist analogy is as stupid as you seem to be.  If you recall, the GOP has offered several bills to minimize the human impact of the slowdown, while trying to maintain the ability to negotiate.  It's your side that's willing to light it all on fire just to watch it burn.  Even a bill to continue NIH funding for cancer treatment of children was rejected out of hand by your side.

I know you and your ilk can't be persuaded, so I won't even bother sticking around in this thread to see the ad hominem attacks and poo flinging commence.  Regardless of how this debt ceiling fight plays out, you've been gelded by your own knife, and your ability to do further damage to the country with your legislative agenda is non-existent.  So there's that.
 
2013-10-16 11:10:19 AM

Karma Chameleon: log_jammin: Nothing is signed or voted on yet.

My money is still on default. What happens today will be in the history books as the nail in the coffin of the US's world leadership. I hope I'm wrong.

My prediction: There will be a last-minute, short term deal kicking the can down the road, andboth parties in Congress and the presidentwill be patting themselves on the back,and then ina few months we can do this all over again!


So, instead of not defaulting now, you'd like to default now? Why do you think that makes any sense?
 
2013-10-16 11:13:59 AM

Occam's Nailfile: Signs Indicate That Obama's Debt Ceiling Gamble May Be Paying Off

Fark you. There is no "gamble" in refusing to capitulate to hostage-taking terrorists. It's the GOP that is gambling with the country's future. If anything, Obama's "gamble" has been to allow the GOP to be involved whatsoever in the process of governance, and that gamble has in no way paid off.

But, I thought he was a right-of-center moderate.


Not negotiating with terrorists is still a good policy when you're a moderate.  Not wanting to drive the country off a cliff for the sake of a failed ideology isn't left of anything.  The rest of your post expands on this obviously flawed premise, so, shut up.
 
2013-10-16 11:20:16 AM

qorkfiend: Karma Chameleon: log_jammin: Nothing is signed or voted on yet.

My money is still on default. What happens today will be in the history books as the nail in the coffin of the US's world leadership. I hope I'm wrong.

My prediction: There will be a last-minute, short term deal kicking the can down the road, andboth parties in Congress and the presidentwill be patting themselves on the back,and then ina few months we can do this all over again!

So, instead of not defaulting now, you'd like to default now? Why do you think that makes any sense?


I just don't give a shiat anymore, either way.
 
2013-10-16 11:21:24 AM
 
2013-10-16 11:21:36 AM

Occam's Nailfile: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Signs Indicate That Obama's Debt Ceiling Gamble May Be Paying Off

Fark you.  There is no "gamble" in refusing to capitulate to hostage-taking terrorists.  It's the GOP that is gambling with the country's future.  If anything, Obama's "gamble" has been to allow the GOP to be involved whatsoever in the process of governance, and that gamble has in no way paid off.

But, I thought he was a right-of-center moderate.

Pick a story and go with it, libs.  Say what you will about the right, they pegged Obama from the start - a radical, narcissistic ideologue, incapable of working with anyone but sycophants.

Cheer that if you want, by all means.  But don't deny Obama's role in the games being played; the last 5 years have been a series of repeated partisan pissing contests, precipitated by sweeping legislation being pushed through on a budget reconciliation loophole without a single vote from the opposition.  Sure, you have your victory, but at what cost?  Excluding the fact that the Obama flat out lied about how the bill would impact people (lower costs, keep your doctor, keep your health plan, keep your job), your side has also created an environment of absolute blind partisanship.  Those things aren't good for the country.  Dems actions have invigorated the very radical opposition you claim to hate so much, and inflamed the passions of that opposition to the degree that you'll be unable to accomplish ANYTHING in your legislative agenda.  You guys bet the farm on one bill (a shiatty one to boot), and won - but lost the ability to accomplish anything else.

Your hostage-taking terrorist analogy is as stupid as you seem to be.  If you recall, the GOP has offered several bills to minimize the human impact of the slowdown, while trying to maintain the ability to negotiate.  It's your side that's willing to light it all on fire just to watch it burn.  Even a bill to continue NIH funding for cancer treatment of children was rejected out of hand by your side.

I know you and your ilk can't be persuaded, so I won't even bother sticking around in this thread to see the ad hominem attacks and poo flinging commence.  Regardless of how this debt ceiling fight plays out, you've been gelded by your own knife, and your ability to do further damage to the country with your legislative agenda is non-existent.  So there's that.


Is it porn titles? Song lyrics? Albums?


I'll bet it's porn titles.
 
2013-10-16 11:28:23 AM

Emposter: ikanreed: TwoBeersOneCan: ikanreed:  gerrymandering.

Careful man, if you say it three times, HE appears!

Huh?  What?  I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

The idiot with his Go picture and Nate Silver quote.  Cmon, you know who it is.


You laughed at Republicans for ignoring Nate Silver.
 
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