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(The New Republic)   Don't mistake what happened yesterday in Washington for anything other than what it was: the final spasm of a still-fresh corpse, the corpse being the GOP's legitimacy as a political entity   ( newrepublic.com) divider line
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2013-10-16 07:49:25 AM  
8 votes:

MindStalker: DrPainMD: "Hope and change" Obama turned out to be nothing more than G.W. Bush III, and he got re-elected.

He changed to match the realities that are the office. A single president can't change much. But he certainly has gotten a lot done given the stranglehold that congress has on him.


Here's what I don't get, of Obama is just another GW Bush, why do Republicans hate him so much? They loved GW Bush.
2013-10-16 07:42:24 AM  
5 votes:
It certainly puts down, like a mad dog, the idea that Republicans can be negotiated with.  They can't even agree with themselves, nor will they keep their word on anything.
2013-10-16 07:56:59 AM  
4 votes:

Corvus: These people don't have a plan, they just want to vote no against everything.


You know, the funny thing is that they're going to keep up with the American Exceptionalism and farking over the global economy, and other countries are going to get tired of this shiat and restructure their financial and economic markets such that America is no longer the center, but rather the outlier.

China's already taking advantage of the chaos to call for it.
2013-10-16 07:56:26 AM  
4 votes:

Mcavity: The Homer Tax: MindStalker: DrPainMD: "Hope and change" Obama turned out to be nothing more than G.W. Bush III, and he got re-elected.

He changed to match the realities that are the office. A single president can't change much. But he certainly has gotten a lot done given the stranglehold that congress has on him.

Here's what I don't get, of Obama is just another GW Bush, why do Republicans hate him so much? They loved GW Bush.

because hes just so Bla...


He even met them half way on that and it wasn't good enough for them.
2013-10-16 07:52:17 AM  
4 votes:

DrPainMD: Alphax: It certainly puts down, like a mad dog, the idea that Republicans can be negotiated with.  They can't even agree with themselves, nor will they keep their word on anything.

Why would they keep their word? "Hope and change" Obama turned out to be nothing more than G.W. Bush III, and he got re-elected. As long as people hold their noses and vote for the candidate they hate the least, nobody in D.C. is going to pay any attention to what the people want.


If he was nothing but GWB3, then why would the Republicans NOT like him?

And until Obama starts a program of firing career, non-political employees, and replacing them solely from barely accredited liberal arts colleges based on political affiliation it's not the same. Oh, and Bush 3 would have had us in Libya and Syria with boots on the ground.
2013-10-16 07:47:59 AM  
4 votes:
Political science people and beltway journalists have been proclaiming these are GOP death throes for a long time now.

Nope.

Come next election, they'll ride the xenophobia, racism, knee-jerk fear of socialism, homophobia, and Good Christian Values right back into office.  Not in quite as many seats as they might have otherwise - this theatre may cost them one or two of the senate seats they were otherwise likely to pick up - but they're really unlikely to lose the House because of this crap.
2013-10-16 07:47:20 AM  
4 votes:

DrPainMD: Alphax: It certainly puts down, like a mad dog, the idea that Republicans can be negotiated with.  They can't even agree with themselves, nor will they keep their word on anything.

Why would they keep their word? "Hope and change" Obama turned out to be nothing more than G.W. Bush III, and he got re-elected. As long as people hold their noses and vote for the candidate they hate the least, nobody in D.C. is going to pay any attention to what the people want.


Both sides are bad, so let's start an easily prevented global financial meltdown.
2013-10-16 06:52:27 AM  
4 votes:
If there's one thing I know about today's GOP it's that they will take the rest of us down with them...
2013-10-16 08:45:11 AM  
3 votes:
" After which John Boehner would tearfully bring it to the floor of the House in defiance of the so-called Hastert Rule (requiring a majority of House Republicans to support a bill before it can come to a vote),"

So. The entire GOP (barring a dozen or so crazies) is fully aware that the debt ceiling needs to be raised to our economy doesn't get tossed in the wood chipper but they are too cowardly to actually do it because they will get primaried because they have spent the last 5 years whipping their base up into a frenzy. So instead they are going to rely on the Democrats to to the adult thing and provide almost all the votes required to pass this thing and then draw straws to see who on the Republican side will make the necessary votes. Then all the rest of the GOP will proudly go home and declare how they fought the debt ceiling all the way to the final vote where they were defeated by a bunch of turncoats.

TBH, sometimes I wish the consequences of this thing would be a little more temporary so the Democrats could all vote "Present" and let the GOP swing in the wind on this one. Just say "fark you, you disingenuous assholes, if you want this thing raised then you can expend your own damn political capital to do it".

Kinda like how the GOP were relying on Democrats to defeat the Right Wing Fantasy Ryan Budget a year or so ago and then had to go change their votes to "NO" when the Democrats gave them a green light to pass it by all voting Present, because even the GOP knew it would be disastrous for the country to actually implement, they just all wanted to say they voted for the conservative budget in their campaigns.
2013-10-16 08:16:45 AM  
3 votes:

DrPainMD: Alphax: It certainly puts down, like a mad dog, the idea that Republicans can be negotiated with.  They can't even agree with themselves, nor will they keep their word on anything.

Why would they keep their word? "Hope and change" Obama turned out to be nothing more than G.W. Bush III, and he got re-elected. As long as people hold their noses and vote for the candidate they hate the least, nobody in D.C. is going to pay any attention to what the people want.


Right other than:

Abortion
Healthcare
Stimulus
Tax policy
Getting Osama Bin Laden
Women's right (Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act )
Gay rights
Wall Street Reform (Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act  )
Saving the Auto industry
Stopping torture policy
Removing Banks from student loans
Increase fuel standards
Increased Veteran benefits
Created new EPA restrictions on dirty power plants
Passed credit card reforms
Put sane judges on SCOTUS
Improved food safety on FDA
Expanded AmeriCorps
Passed fair sentencing act
Reduced defense spending
Added more land to parks
Made large investments in renewable energy
Improved school nutrition
Expanded health coverage for children
Expanded stem cell research
and many many other things...

Other than those "small" things he is exactly like Bush! amirite?
2013-10-16 08:06:07 AM  
3 votes:

Corvus: And then blame Obama for what they caused.


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Amazing how often this image is relevant
2013-10-16 09:00:20 AM  
2 votes:

InmanRoshi: I want to see how many House Republicans end up voting for the Senate Bill.   It will highlight how many GOPers are holding onto moderate purple districts that are in play for 2014.


It'll be 18.

The GOP demonstrated with the Ryan budget that they will make votes they hope they wont win in order to take home campaign soundbites. For this one they will work out which 18 face the least threat of a 'bagger primary challenge and get them to vote for the bill so the rest of them can go home and say they fought it all the way.
2013-10-16 08:47:25 AM  
2 votes:
Maybe it would be if people actually paid attention...

www.people-press.org

But you can't have figures like this if people generally hated republicans, farkers get in kinda an echo chamber and not necessarily a political one but one where because everyone else here happens to know a lot about politics they project that onto the general population.
2013-10-16 08:30:17 AM  
2 votes:

hardinparamedic: Albino Squid: And scary. Now, they're scared of shadows. Give them macropolitical changes that are both genuinely damaging to American interests and out of their control? Oh lawd.

Part of the advantage that comes with having such control over global economics is that the United States has immense influences with other countries in terms of using it's military, and exercising it's global military power. Take away that economic power, and shift it into the hands of another country with a larger standing military and an immense budget to match that, say China, and you have the potential on your hands for another cold war and military arms race.


Especially because the fear and irrationality that has permeated parts of the right would, as America's economic power declined, likely infect a greater portion of the political culture. Some of the people involved in the first cold war were legitimately insane, but there was still a general undercurrent of good governance in most quarters. Mix an unshakable belief in American exceptionalism, prolonged economic malaise and the rise of a genuinely economically and militarily superior opponent with the tidal wave of derp and she's all on the table.
2013-10-16 08:22:01 AM  
2 votes:
Boehner couldn't lead House Republicans to an open bar right now.
2013-10-16 08:16:07 AM  
2 votes:
If the Dems stay away from gun control they will control 100% if the government for the next 10 years after this.
2013-10-16 08:04:33 AM  
2 votes:

DrPainMD: Neither party really has any legitimacy as a political entity.


Amusing how people trot that both sides are bad only when there is something wrong with the GOP. Well, your concern in trying to downplay the screw-ups GOP and your goal to derail the thread into a discussion how the democrats are bad are noted.
2013-10-16 08:00:00 AM  
2 votes:
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel....kinda sad really. This impending collapse was outright manufactured by a few wing nuts and the weak willed GOP modates let it happen. Ah well, maybe I'll find a good place to loot when the riots start up in November.
2013-10-16 07:56:47 AM  
2 votes:

ghall3: If there's one thing I know about today's GOP it's that they will take the rest of us down with them...


My favorite FB derp this morning?  An image with the text:

[  ] Democrat
[  ]Republican
[X] Angry American

So, do you think the comments were filled with people who were angry about the cost of the Republican obstructionism? Do you think for a second that a single one of those shiat-eating fark heads had ANYTHING negative to say about the Republicans?  It was all about how the ACA is going to doom us all.

That's where they are right now.  They're pissed---they they lost, that the black guy won, however you want to look at it.  And all you have to do to understand how Republicans react to losing is find one that supported GW.  Buncha farking ignorant crybabies.
2013-10-16 07:56:32 AM  
2 votes:

DemonEater: Come next election, they'll ride the xenophobia, racism, knee-jerk fear of socialism, homophobia, and Good Christian Values right back into office. Not in quite as many seats as they might have otherwise - this theatre may cost them one or two of the senate seats they were otherwise likely to pick up - but they're really unlikely to lose the House because of this crap.


sure they will. Just like they were supposed to win the presidency and senate in 2012...and the senate and house in 2010. If they lose seats in the House, it'll be a very telling sign that their time has come. They have rigged the system to stay in power. If that system fails them, then that means they're pretty screwed, and in a fair districting system, they'd get their asses handed to them.

When you rig the system, even a small loss is a giant victory for the other side
2013-10-16 07:47:30 AM  
2 votes:

DrPainMD: "Hope and change" Obama turned out to be nothing more than G.W. Bush III, and he got re-elected.


He changed to match the realities that are the office. A single president can't change much. But he certainly has gotten a lot done given the stranglehold that congress has on him.
2013-10-16 07:42:27 AM  
2 votes:
Neither party really has any legitimacy as a political entity.
2013-10-16 10:02:24 AM  
1 vote:

Ricardo Klement: The Tea Party is a cancer and it's metastasized in the party's leadership. We're going to get a whole hell of a lot sicker if we undergo chemo and radiation therapy, but we'll live. Unfortunately, the cancer gets a vote.


If the Affordable Care Act ends up prolonging the lives of aging Republican/teabagger voters so they can keep gumming up the country with their dementia, then it really will have been as damaging to the US as they claimed.  Maybe that's what they've been trying to warn us about this whole time!
2013-10-16 10:01:48 AM  
1 vote:

Lost Thought 00: Clinton carried the state in 96 - in large part due to Perot splitting the vote. It's gotten more and more Republican every cycle since


Gore played no small part in that.

So it's kinda funny that he lost it himself four years later.

/funny in a hundreds of thousands of people dead, trillions of dollars wasted, and a global recession way
2013-10-16 09:54:38 AM  
1 vote:
The Tea Party is a cancer and it's metastasized in the party's leadership. We're going to get a whole hell of a lot sicker if we undergo chemo and radiation therapy, but we'll live. Unfortunately, the cancer gets a vote.
2013-10-16 09:39:46 AM  
1 vote:
There's a phrase that i heard someone say back around 2010, and it's been getting a lot of use in my household:

"I would rather whittle the tip of my dick off with a carrot peeler than vote for a Republican ever again."

Snappy.

/voted for Perot instead of Clinton, eternal shame.
2013-10-16 09:34:46 AM  
1 vote:

snowshovel: It's rather telling that "I never lost a vote" Pelosi hasn't brought anything to the table. At least Beohner is trying to  negotiate with steadfast Democrats to solve the mess they made.


Once again, I'm not sure if you're a liar, troll, or just an ignorant buffoon who doesn't know how our government works.

Under House rules, only things that Boehner and Cantor directly approve are even allowed to be voted on.
2013-10-16 09:34:42 AM  
1 vote:

snowshovel: It's rather telling that "I never lost a vote" Pelosi hasn't brought anything to the table. At least Beohner is trying to  negotiate with steadfast Democrats to solve the mess they made.


What's it like, having a mental disorder?
2013-10-16 09:33:45 AM  
1 vote:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: You forgot "so vote Republican".


You know, this is the sort of thing that would be a tired, played out meme if it wasn't for the fact that this a tactic we see EVERY SINGLE DAY, OVER AND OVER AGAIN from the GOP stalwarts attempting to salvage their party's image.

I mean, what started as a cynical political ploy by Karl Rove as a way to defuse the strong, and (at the time) growing anti-Bush/anti-GOP sentiment as we lived through the misrule of the first Bush term has been adopted as the go-to rationalization for those who still want to cling to their political identity or to put up a pretense of objectivity.

And what's so galling about it is in so many cases the precedent for bad GOP political behavior that is being waved off by the "BSAB" statement was also set by the GOP.

Take this current gov shutdown and debt limit debate.  We have posters in these threads saying "I don't know why you guys are getting upset about this, this happens all the time,  this is just what Congress does."
2013-10-16 09:18:11 AM  
1 vote:

Funk Brothers: It's only going to get worse for the GOP if they continue down the current path. American conservatism in its current form has run its course. The Sixth Party System which began in 1968 with the election of Nixon is effectively over. As a Republican, I'm disgusted with the Tea Party and their crazy folks. I can see why Obama never wanted to negotiate with them again.

What Republicans need to do is to become compassionate again, get businesses to invest again, and know that sometimes raising taxes is ok when the timing is right. Go ask Governor Kasich of Ohio on why it's important to expand Medicaid to the poor, why he's making deals with businesses, why he attempted to tax the fracking business, and why he just stays out on the same-sex marriage issue. We need less Ted Cruzes, we need more Pope Francises in our party.


WTF is this?  If you're the same Funk Brothers I've seen in this forum lo these many years I don't even know what to say.  Truly the cause of the modern GOP is sunk.  For what it's worth, if you guys manage to pull your party back to Eisenhower-style policy platforms, I would welcome that.
2013-10-16 09:16:42 AM  
1 vote:

Skleenar: clkeagle: I know. Both sides ARE bad. But, obviously, the Democrats are worse. Amirite?

They certainly sound worse when you tell blatant lies.

It takes two to lie:  One to lie, and one to listen.  Shame on you, libtard.


Let that be a lesson to us all:  the next time you see a teaderp open his mouth, take him out.
2013-10-16 09:04:31 AM  
1 vote:
Does anyone remember that scene in Rome where Marc Antony is supposed to veto a symbolic measure to declare Caesar an outlaw but gets shouted down by a mob of senators before he can actually raise the veto, with the end result being the destruction of the Republic over a measure that no one, including the people who raised it, wanted to actually pass?

Yeah, I'm kind of getting that feeling while watching this mess. Let's hope that the consequences for our own republic won't be as dire.
2013-10-16 08:58:15 AM  
1 vote:
Robert Costa @robertcostaNRO
The biggest sentiment across House R world, from our table to their talks w/ pals: disappointment. Disappointment w/ lack of strategy

Robert Costa @robertcostaNRO
There's not a push to get rid of Boehner. Not at all. The disappointment was twd Boehner, Cantor for listening too much to a bloc of 20

"Suicide caucus" from the figure going around is 80 Rs.  Yesterday they were saying it was a group of 50 Rs blocking the "new" House bill from going forward.  Now it's down to 20 guys causing all this mess.

Either 3/4 of the "suicide caucus" had a sincere change of heart or a "core group of 20" convinced everyone they were more powerful than they really were.
2013-10-16 08:53:12 AM  
1 vote:

Deneb81: DrPainMD: Alphax: It certainly puts down, like a mad dog, the idea that Republicans can be negotiated with.  They can't even agree with themselves, nor will they keep their word on anything.

Why would they keep their word? "Hope and change" Obama turned out to be nothing more than G.W. Bush III, and he got re-elected. As long as people hold their noses and vote for the candidate they hate the least, nobody in D.C. is going to pay any attention to what the people want.

If he was nothing but GWB3, then why would the Republicans NOT like him?

And until Obama starts a program of firing career, non-political employees, and replacing them solely from barely accredited liberal arts colleges based on political affiliation it's not the same. Oh, and Bush 3 would have had us in Libya and Syria with boots on the ground.


This.

I get dislike for Obama on everything from Gitmo to domestic spying, but if youthink he was Bush 3, then your head is up your ass.
2013-10-16 08:51:40 AM  
1 vote:
I want to see how many House Republicans end up voting for the Senate Bill.   It will highlight how many GOPers are holding onto moderate purple districts that are in play for 2014.  If only a smattering of GOP vote for the Senate Bill, the outlook of flipping the House in 2014 doesn't look good.    If a GOPer doesn't vote for it, that means there is still more pressure for them  being primaried from the right flank than there is from the left or middle among their constituents.
2013-10-16 08:50:22 AM  
1 vote:
Stupid WYSIWYG editor, hiding the fact I posted the wrong link!

i.imgur.com
2013-10-16 08:43:57 AM  
1 vote:

HMS_Blinkin: They want to burn the country because Jesus.


Which is a point that needs to be repeated in this conversation often. You can't reason with people who honestly believe that God is on their side, and they are the last bastion of Christ in a heathen world that hates them for that alone.

When you believe that your personal political decisions will have a hand in the end times and the glorious return of your savior, you tend to be a death-seeker who doesn't care if his/her country will burn or not.

This is one of the reasons for the Tea Party/Far Right mentality. These people are just another chapter in the episode of the people who believe the "end times" are upon us and neigh.
2013-10-16 08:40:03 AM  
1 vote:

Albino Squid: And scary. Now, they're scared of shadows. Give them macropolitical changes that are both genuinely damaging to American interests and out of their control? Oh lawd.


Thing is, it's well within their control right now.  They're manufacturing, for no reason at all, this political crisis along with the government default and economic chaos that go with it.  It's totally in their control.  They can pass a clean CR and raise the debt limit (or repeal the damn debt limit law once and for all), and it would do wonders to strengthen the US economy and to confirm America's reserve currency position.

But these are teabaggers.  They want to burn the country because Jesus.
2013-10-16 08:29:18 AM  
1 vote:

Great_Milenko: Calling the GOP dead is as short sighted as Karl Rove's "permanent republican majority" statement.  If they can man up and jettison the malcontents and loudmouths, they can become a viable partner in the governing of America.

The democrats did the same thing in the early 90's when they pushed Jesse Jackson to the side.  Get rid of the teabaggers and they'll be fine.  They don't have to abandon their principles, they just have to get rid of the people in the party who don't believe in the idea of government.


The entire party chases the Starve the Beast ideology. There will be no fixing this.
2013-10-16 08:28:24 AM  
1 vote:
lol if you think republicans will suffer any actual consequences for the shut down, long term or short term

just lol
2013-10-16 08:23:05 AM  
1 vote:
It's only going to get worse for the GOP if they continue down the current path. American conservatism in its current form has run its course. The Sixth Party System which began in 1968 with the election of Nixon is effectively over. As a Republican, I'm disgusted with the Tea Party and their crazy folks. I can see why Obama never wanted to negotiate with them again.

What Republicans need to do is to become compassionate again, get businesses to invest again, and know that sometimes raising taxes is ok when the timing is right. Go ask Governor Kasich of Ohio on why it's important to expand Medicaid to the poor, why he's making deals with businesses, why he attempted to tax the fracking business, and why he just stays out on the same-sex marriage issue. We need less Ted Cruzes, we need more Pope Francises in our party.
2013-10-16 08:20:12 AM  
1 vote:

Albino Squid: And scary. Now, they're scared of shadows. Give them macropolitical changes that are both genuinely damaging to American interests and out of their control? Oh lawd.


Part of the advantage that comes with having such control over global economics is that the United States has immense influences with other countries in terms of using it's military, and exercising it's global military power. Take away that economic power, and shift it into the hands of another country with a larger standing military and an immense budget to match that, say China, and you have the potential on your hands for another cold war and military arms race.
2013-10-16 08:20:05 AM  
1 vote:
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2013-10-16 08:20:04 AM  
1 vote:

somedude210: Weaver95: It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel....kinda sad really. This impending collapse was outright manufactured by a few wing nuts and the weak willed GOP modates let it happen. Ah well, maybe I'll find a good place to loot when the riots start up in November.

It's amazing what we let the crazies get away with sometimes. What's funny "irony" is that this will probably do what they feared would happen and create a dictatorship in the country. Self-fulfilling prophecy assholes


If the theocrats win then I am a dead man. They'll kill me just on general principal.
2013-10-16 08:14:52 AM  
1 vote:

ghall3: born_yesterday: ghall3: If there's one thing I know about today's GOP it's that they will take the rest of us down with them...

My favorite FB derp this morning?  An image with the text:

[  ] Democrat
[  ]Republican
[X] Angry American

So, do you think the comments were filled with people who were angry about the cost of the Republican obstructionism? Do you think for a second that a single one of those shiat-eating fark heads had ANYTHING negative to say about the Republicans?  It was all about how the ACA is going to doom us all.

That's where they are right now.  They're pissed---they they lost, that the black guy won, however you want to look at it.  And all you have to do to understand how Republicans react to losing is find one that supported GW.  Buncha farking ignorant crybabies.

That's the part that really gets me. I don't see how anyone can be standing behind the republicans at this point, yet here we are. I do like McCain's comment today though (or maybe last night) something along the lines of "Time to grow up, we knew we were going to lose, we lost, let's get back to work and fight another day".  People need to realize that is the reality, but it really seems like it is too late for that at this point too many people are living in their own realities that have nothing to do with what is actually happening


McCains one of the last truly "party of personal responsibility" "bootstrap" Republicans. As opposed to this mass of whining, entititled, spiteful, ignorant victims that makes up the party today.

What's ironic is that he's actually responsible for a whole lot of what the GOP has become today with his choice of running mate in 08.
2013-10-16 08:14:50 AM  
1 vote:

hardinparamedic: Albino Squid: America has maybe two or three years to get its shiat together, before the Eurozone stabilizes enough to look like a safer long-term prospect. fark about longer and the reserve currency status that makes America's debt so manageable will start to be chipped away bit by bit.

The scary thing is that the shift to a sinocentric global economic situation would probably be feeding into the Right's paranoia and desires to tighten government control of personal freedoms in the United States.

It's ironic, isn't it?


And scary. Now, they're scared of shadows. Give them macropolitical changes that are both genuinely damaging to American interests and out of their control? Oh lawd.
2013-10-16 08:05:19 AM  
1 vote:

Weaver95: It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel....kinda sad really. This impending collapse was outright manufactured by a few wing nuts and the weak willed GOP modates let it happen. Ah well, maybe I'll find a good place to loot when the riots start up in November.


It's amazing what we let the crazies get away with sometimes. What's funny "irony" is that this will probably do what they feared would happen and create a dictatorship in the country. Self-fulfilling prophecy assholes
2013-10-16 08:04:38 AM  
1 vote:

Corvus: hardinparamedic: Corvus: These people don't have a plan, they just want to vote no against everything.

You know, the funny thing is that they're going to keep up with the American Exceptionalism and farking over the global economy, and other countries are going to get tired of this shiat and restructure their financial and economic markets such that America is no longer the center, but rather the outlier.

China's already taking advantage of the chaos to call for it.


And then blame Obama for what they caused.


Or gay marriage. Or Abortion. Or godless communists.

Or the lack of "Traditional Christian Values (TM)"

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Whatever gets the 45+ (The average age of a Republican Voter is 45) crowd out of their rascals and recliners away from Fox News to vote.
2013-10-16 08:04:21 AM  
1 vote:

born_yesterday: ghall3: If there's one thing I know about today's GOP it's that they will take the rest of us down with them...

My favorite FB derp this morning?  An image with the text:

[  ] Democrat
[  ]Republican
[X] Angry American

So, do you think the comments were filled with people who were angry about the cost of the Republican obstructionism? Do you think for a second that a single one of those shiat-eating fark heads had ANYTHING negative to say about the Republicans?  It was all about how the ACA is going to doom us all.

That's where they are right now.  They're pissed---they they lost, that the black guy won, however you want to look at it.  And all you have to do to understand how Republicans react to losing is find one that supported GW.  Buncha farking ignorant crybabies.


That's the part that really gets me. I don't see how anyone can be standing behind the republicans at this point, yet here we are. I do like McCain's comment today though (or maybe last night) something along the lines of "Time to grow up, we knew we were going to lose, we lost, let's get back to work and fight another day".  People need to realize that is the reality, but it really seems like it is too late for that at this point too many people are living in their own realities that have nothing to do with what is actually happening
2013-10-16 07:54:56 AM  
1 vote:
These people don't have a plan, they just want to vote no against everything.
2013-10-16 07:54:46 AM  
1 vote:

DrPainMD: Neither party really has any legitimacy as a political entity.


Please explain? Oh wait, you're just spouting nonsense. Ok then. Great job buddy, that was a valid point, but maybe you want to go watch cartoons or something.
2013-10-16 07:54:27 AM  
1 vote:

DemonEater: Political science people and beltway journalists have been proclaiming these are GOP death throes for a long time now.

Nope.

Come next election, they'll ride the xenophobia, racism, knee-jerk fear of socialism, homophobia, and Good Christian Values right back into office.  Not in quite as many seats as they might have otherwise - this theatre may cost them one or two of the senate seats they were otherwise likely to pick up - but they're really unlikely to lose the House because of this crap.


Oh they are dead, they just don't know it yet. Simple demographics have killed them. Their racist, sexist base is slowly dieing.

If only death panels were a real thing.
2013-10-16 07:44:51 AM  
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Alphax: It certainly puts down, like a mad dog, the idea that Republicans can be negotiated with.  They can't even agree with themselves, nor will they keep their word on anything.


Why would they keep their word? "Hope and change" Obama turned out to be nothing more than G.W. Bush III, and he got re-elected. As long as people hold their noses and vote for the candidate they hate the least, nobody in D.C. is going to pay any attention to what the people want.
 
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