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(The New Republic)   Don't mistake what happened yesterday in Washington for anything other than what it was: the final spasm of a still-fresh corpse, the corpse being the GOP's legitimacy as a political entity   (newrepublic.com) divider line 215
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2013-10-16 10:53:17 AM

netweavr: quickdraw: netweavr: Weaver95: It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel....kinda sad really. This impending collapse was outright manufactured by a few wing nuts and the weak willed GOP modates let it happen. Ah well, maybe I'll find a good place to loot when the riots start up in November.

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Netweavr you have no poetry in your soul. Go read some Rilke' or at least some Kipling ffs.

I prefer the contemporary equivalents of Busta Rhymes and 50 cent.


Fine. We'll meet in the middle  - Ginsberg

I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,
angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating across the tops of cities contemplating jazz,
who bared their brains to Heaven under the El and saw Mohammedan angels staggering on tenement roofs illuminated,
who passed through universities with radiant cool eyes hallucinating Arkan- sas and Blake-light tragedy among the scholars of war,
 
2013-10-16 10:54:33 AM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Does anyone remember that scene in Rome where Marc Antony is supposed to veto a symbolic measure to declare Caesar an outlaw but gets shouted down by a mob of senators before he can actually raise the veto, with the end result being the destruction of the Republic over a measure that no one, including the people who raised it, wanted to actually pass?

Yeah, I'm kind of getting that feeling while watching this mess. Let's hope that the consequences for our own republic won't be as dire.


Actually, four centuries of drinking, whoring, and feeding Christians to lions sounds pretty good!
 
2013-10-16 10:56:09 AM
InmanRoshi: ....Yep.  Look at the 2010 Colorado Governor's race.   They took a race that the GOP were probably slightly favored to win, Tom Tancredo spit off and made it a 3 party race, and the Democrat ended up winning in a landslide.    That's why the GOP will never kick out 30-50% of their voting block.

If thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, bro.
 
2013-10-16 11:02:14 AM

eurotrash: I have to say I think Boehner and McConnell has been playing this very smart, and no I am not ironic.
The old republican guard want to get the Tea party since they can't win the senate with them, and also primaries.

By playing it this way they will most likely keep the house, the gerrymandering and the focusing of the establishement to fight the Tea party will maintain the balance as it is now. The people will have forgotten about this derp by the time 2014 elections come along but the tea party crazy will carry over.

Now the smart thing they did was not only to expose tea party as unable to govern but by creating the bill to open government and avoid default in the senate they have made senate republicans look good. All of a sudden senate republicans are appealing to independents again, so in short:

House is safe republican in 2014, midterms are always better for R
Senate became sane again and greatly increases the R chances to grab the missing seats back.

Smart play, I have to say it looks impressive


Yes, very impressive.  Except that's not how it works.
So, you think the republicans are now going to start producing more moderate candidates out of their primaries because the Tea party folks have seen the error of their ways.  I think just the opposite.  They will start producing more "true american patriots" in their primaries and they will lose Senate races. And they will lose some house seats, though probably not enough to lose control.

Also, as far as "making Republican Senators look good", you realize Ted Cruz is a Republican Senator, and this thing isn't over yet.  He still has a chance to "look good" by filibustering the deal.
 
2013-10-16 11:02:29 AM
Republicans look to Boehner, 
Boehner looks to Ted Cruz, 
Ted Cruz looks to Tea Party, 
Tea Party looks to constituents, 
Constituents look to God, 
God looks to Republicans and says, 'Don't look at me, Ted Cruz and the Tea Party created this mess.'

/not mine
//but good
 
2013-10-16 11:29:25 AM

RisaTravelAgent: They will start producing more "true american patriots" in their primaries and they will lose Senate races. And they will lose some house seats, though probably not enough to lose control.


I'm a little more hopeful.  You have to think that in these gerrymandered tea-districts there's a fair amount of "hold your nose and vote GOP" types.  Maybe a significant percentage, like say...  5 or 10%.  The point of gerrymandering is not to build yourself super-safe strongholds, it's to try to make a few ultra-other guy districts where the other party will win by huge margins and then you're left with winnable races to pick up the majority of representatives.

Now, I'm sure the American people probably won't remember this debt "crisis" next year unless the US actually defaults, but there's still a year left for the teahaddists to wreak their specific brand of wilfully incompetent government on the nation.  If they piss off enough people who usually just automatically vote GOP but really aren't ideologically pure, we could see big swings in gerrymandered districts.  Look at last cycle, Bachmann nearly lost (and she's getting out while the gettin's good) and Alan West lost his seat.  There were also a few rape-loving GOP senators that lost seats they should have had.

If the tea partiers hold the course, we might see a Dem house, senate and presidency in 2014.
 
2013-10-16 11:53:12 AM

TheNewJesus: Really submitter? Because here in Kansas we still have plenty of assholes. I see them every day.


And we're all glad you've got gainful employment at a proctologist's office.

/got nothin
 
2013-10-16 11:59:25 AM

T-Servo: syzygy whizz: T-Servo: I'm not sure I like the headline's metaphor, seeing as a zombie apocalypse is what we're fearing the most now.

/need some new mods for my baseball bat

I'm not a gun person...do edged weapons work on zombies?

/ that doubled-headed battle-axe hanging beside my door might come in handy after all...

Useful for cutting off heads and/or limbs. I prefer katanas and machetes myself, but axes work if you're in a group- otherwise recovery time is too slow.


Bladed weapons require a great amount of training and practice not to get hung up on bones and joints. Blunt melee weapons are less sexy but more practical.
 
2013-10-16 12:05:06 PM

Mouldy Squid: T-Servo: syzygy whizz: T-Servo: I'm not sure I like the headline's metaphor, seeing as a zombie apocalypse is what we're fearing the most now.

/need some new mods for my baseball bat

I'm not a gun person...do edged weapons work on zombies?

/ that doubled-headed battle-axe hanging beside my door might come in handy after all...

Useful for cutting off heads and/or limbs. I prefer katanas and machetes myself, but axes work if you're in a group- otherwise recovery time is too slow.

Bladed weapons require a great amount of training and practice not to get hung up on bones and joints. Blunt melee weapons are less sexy but more practical.


I work a few blocks from Capitol Hill. I'm willing to go there and practice for a while.
 
2013-10-16 12:10:16 PM

hardinparamedic: Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?!

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You SEVERELY UNDERESTIMATE the potential danger the democrats pose. This shutdown will continue. And fear will keep the local gerrymandered districts in line.


What are those things in his tunic pockets?
 
2013-10-16 12:11:32 PM

T-Servo: I prefer katanas and machetes myself, but axes work if you're in a group- otherwise recovery time is too slow.


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2013-10-16 12:19:13 PM

JAYoung: One-on-one, these TEA party types aren't too bad, but they get uppity when they get in a group.


It's populism. And it's a great case study in why populism tends to lead to bad, bad things.
 
2013-10-16 12:58:48 PM

2wolves: What are those things in his tunic pockets?


Code Cylinders.
 
2013-10-16 01:18:40 PM

hardinparamedic: 2wolves: What are those things in his tunic pockets?

Code Cylinders.


Thank you.
 
2013-10-16 04:52:58 PM

born_yesterday: DemonEater: Come next election, they'll ride the xenophobia, racism, knee-jerk fear of socialism, homophobia, and Good Christian Values right back into office. Not in quite as many seats as they might have otherwise - this theatre may cost them one or two of the senate seats they were otherwise likely to pick up - but they're really unlikely to lose the House because of this crap.

I realize my FB experiences are anecdotal, but these people will NEVER change their minds or their votes.  The ACA is the most evil thing ever, guaranteed to destroy America, Obama is the most incompetent president ever, and all of the Democrats are the idiots.  Since they have a remarkable resistance to facts, reason, and logic, they're never going to see or read anything that changes their mind.


It's true. Just like many people went to their graves thinking exactly the same thing about FDR and Social Security. Or Medicaid. Or Medicare. Of food stamps.. But they will die off, and their kids will really like this Obamacare stuff.
 
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