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(KTVB Boise)   Not news: Couple dies in car crash. News: They were married 68 years. Dusty in here: their bodies were found holding hands   (ktvb.com) divider line 92
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2013-10-15 11:58:11 PM  
I was really sad about this until I got to the name of the family friend. "Britches" Peden.
 
2013-10-16 12:06:20 AM  
"You don't see that everyday," said Trooper Rob Spencer. "We actually had to ask her to let go of him, so we could get him out of the car."

He asked her after she was killed??
 
2013-10-16 12:10:59 AM  

Lorelle: "You don't see that everyday," said Trooper Rob Spencer. "We actually had to ask her to let go of him, so we could get him out of the car."

He asked her after she was killed??


I wondered the same thing.  Thinking about it, though, if I were there... I don't know, I might have asked her, too.
 
2013-10-16 12:14:57 AM  

Lorelle: "You don't see that everyday," said Trooper Rob Spencer. "We actually had to ask her to let go of him, so we could get him out of the car."

He asked her after she was killed??


It looked like she was reaching for something so the cop put a bullet in her.

Safety first.
 
2013-10-16 12:20:58 AM  
I hate to seem callous, but perhaps whomever was driving should have kept their hands on the steering wheel instead.
 
2013-10-16 12:21:16 AM  
Maybe if one of them had been holding on to the steering wheel ...
 
2013-10-16 12:22:07 AM  
(shakes tiny fist at Eddie)
 
2013-10-16 12:29:48 AM  
www.thewallstreetgeek.com

I know what movie this couple watched earlier....
 
2013-10-16 12:59:07 AM  
Sure beats the wreck where they came across the couple with her lips wrapped around his knob, forever joined in rigor coitus.
 
2013-10-16 01:04:26 AM  

Lorelle: "You don't see that everyday," said Trooper Rob Spencer. "We actually had to ask her to let go of him, so we could get him out of the car."

He asked her after she was killed??


I'm guess she died at the hospital or later on scene? There was a news story awhile back about a woman who got crushed under a tree. They couldn't get her out before she passed, but it was like a six hour long thing.

/that's kind of one of my nightmare death scenarios. Knowing you're gonna go and nothing you can do. Mind shooting me up full of tranqs, please? I don't want to be sober.
//glad I have good meds onboard again. I was starting to have nightmares before hearing about this.
 
2013-10-16 01:14:27 AM  

Peki: I'm guess she died at the hospital or later on scene? There was a news story awhile back about a woman who got crushed under a tree. They couldn't get her out before she passed, but it was like a six hour long thing.

/that's kind of one of my nightmare death scenarios. Knowing you're gonna go and nothing you can do. Mind shooting me up full of tranqs, please? I don't want to be sober.
//glad I have good meds onboard again. I was starting to have nightmares before hearing about this.


:(

That reminds me of the case of the unfortunate dude who was trapped upside-down in a crevice in a cave, and ended up dying there.
 
2013-10-16 01:36:34 AM  
Car accident aside, that's how I hope to go, if I'm lucky.

I know for sure that neither my wife or I could last too long without the other.  I know plenty of people out there find a way to move on with life, and do well at it, but I doubt either of us fall into that bucket.
 
2013-10-16 03:56:47 AM  

Lorelle: That reminds me of the case of the unfortunate dude who was trapped upside-down in a crevice in a cave, and ended up dying there.


Or one of those guys that tries to break into a building by going down the chimney and they find his skeletal remains twelve years later.
 
2013-10-16 06:30:20 AM  
It might have been less sentimental but if they hadn't pulled out in front of some truck they would still be alive.
 
2013-10-16 06:34:34 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Lorelle: That reminds me of the case of the unfortunate dude who was trapped upside-down in a crevice in a cave, and ended up dying there.

Or one of those guys that tries to break into a building by going down the chimney and they find his skeletal remains twelve years later.


Is that what Christmas means to you?
 
2013-10-16 06:43:52 AM  
Isn't this an old story that circulated around social media
/dnrtfa
 
2013-10-16 06:44:30 AM  
What a terribly written article.
 
2013-10-16 06:44:58 AM  
And the Affordable Healthcare Act claims two more victims.  Thanks, Obama.
 
2013-10-16 06:46:02 AM  
When I do, I want to go like my Grandpa ...
 
2013-10-16 06:48:11 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: It might have been less sentimental but if they hadn't pulled out in front of some truck they would still be alive.


Yeah, sad, but someone should have taken their driver's licenses away a long time ago. I don't care how good they thought they were, the reaction time just isn't there at that age
 
2013-10-16 06:52:41 AM  

Lorelle: Peki: I'm guess she died at the hospital or later on scene? There was a news story awhile back about a woman who got crushed under a tree. They couldn't get her out before she passed, but it was like a six hour long thing.

/that's kind of one of my nightmare death scenarios. Knowing you're gonna go and nothing you can do. Mind shooting me up full of tranqs, please? I don't want to be sober.
//glad I have good meds onboard again. I was starting to have nightmares before hearing about this.

:(

That reminds me of the case of the unfortunate dude who was trapped upside-down in a crevice in a cave, and ended up dying there.


1) Make sure it's clear before you pull across roads.
2) Don't go caving.

Wah-la!
You're welcome.
 
2013-10-16 06:53:24 AM  
It's not dust, subby. That's a piece of windshield in your eye.
 
2013-10-16 06:57:45 AM  

Lorelle: Peki: I'm guess she died at the hospital or later on scene? There was a news story awhile back about a woman who got crushed under a tree. They couldn't get her out before she passed, but it was like a six hour long thing.

/that's kind of one of my nightmare death scenarios. Knowing you're gonna go and nothing you can do. Mind shooting me up full of tranqs, please? I don't want to be sober.
//glad I have good meds onboard again. I was starting to have nightmares before hearing about this.

:(

That reminds me of the case of the unfortunate dude who was trapped upside-down in a crevice in a cave, and ended up dying there.


Positional asphyxia.
Most humans can't live for very long upside down, particularly jammed in a crack.
Even hanging by the feet, most people can't keep breathing longer than a certain time... their guts push down their lungs when they get tired. Diaphragm pushes on the lungs from the bottom, exeunt.
 
2013-10-16 06:58:50 AM  
it's from laughing so hard about peden's first name
 
2013-10-16 07:02:25 AM  
People who have been married 68 years shouldn't be driving.
 
2013-10-16 07:02:43 AM  
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2013-10-16 07:06:17 AM  
I'm sure he would've prefered this:


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2013-10-16 07:12:12 AM  
Both hands on the wheel buddy.
 
2013-10-16 07:17:37 AM  
He should of had both hands on the wheel.
 
2013-10-16 07:23:28 AM  
Something warm flowing through my eyes,
But somehow I found my baby that night.
I lifted her head, she looked at me and said;
"Hold me darling just a little while."
I held her close I kissed her - our last kiss,
I found the love that I knew I had missed.
 
2013-10-16 07:25:19 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: It might have been less sentimental but if they hadn't pulled out in front of some truck they would still be alive.


HindiDiscoMonster: ... beacause as we know, all people are perfect and never make mistakes.


There are some mistakes you don't make because they're so stupid AND deadly that you don't survive them.

I live in an area with a lot of old people.  The rule of thumb is, the SLOWER the car, the more dangerous it is.  If you're pulling out of a side street with a blind corner someone going 5-10 over the limit might have to brake and/or swerve to avoid you, and will probably flip you the bird, but they're paying attention so at worst you get a scare.  The 90-year-olds going 20mph will obliviously plow right into you at 20mph because even at 20mph they can't react to anything within their sight distance.

These people probably should not have been driving.  They chose to anyway, and died in circumstances that any competent driver would've easily avoided.
 
2013-10-16 07:33:58 AM  

dragonchild: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: It might have been less sentimental but if they hadn't pulled out in front of some truck they would still be alive.

HindiDiscoMonster: ... beacause as we know, all people are perfect and never make mistakes.

There are some mistakes you don't make because they're so stupid AND deadly that you don't survive them.

I live in an area with a lot of old people.  The rule of thumb is, the SLOWER the car, the more dangerous it is.  If you're pulling out of a side street with a blind corner someone going 5-10 over the limit might have to brake and/or swerve to avoid you, and will probably flip you the bird, but they're paying attention so at worst you get a scare.  The 90-year-olds going 20mph will obliviously plow right into you at 20mph because even at 20mph they can't react to anything within their sight distance.

These people probably should not have been driving.  They chose to anyway, and died in circumstances that any competent driver would've easily avoided.


You sound young.  It won't be as cut and dry when you have to figure out exactly when to talk to your elderly parents about not driving anymore.
 
2013-10-16 07:40:16 AM  
To me the sweetest part of the story is where they say that when the little old guy was no longer able to push the lawnmower by himself, they started pushing it together as a couple.

Damn near 70 years is a hell of a long time to be in love.
 
2013-10-16 07:43:52 AM  

Parkanzky: You sound young. It won't be as cut and dry when you have to figure out exactly when to talk to your elderly parents about not driving anymore.


Only if their lives are less important to you than avoiding a stressful conversation.
 
2013-10-16 07:45:53 AM  
sad. but dammit, 90 yr old people don't need to be out driving.
 
2013-10-16 07:47:17 AM  

LoneVVolf: Parkanzky: You sound young. It won't be as cut and dry when you have to figure out exactly when to talk to your elderly parents about not driving anymore.

Only if their lives are less important to you than avoiding a stressful conversation.


yeah it's not an easy conversation to have. been there,done that.
 
2013-10-16 07:48:06 AM  
"Let go of my hand or I'll kill us both I will, dagnabbit!"

"Oh look at Mister Talk Big. You don't got the stones. You dried up old basterd!"

"Oh yeah? I should have done this 68 years ago."
 
2013-10-16 07:49:08 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Also: I guess you knew these particular drivers since you made judgement calls about their abilities, and automagically assumed that the young driver was paying attention. Since you knew them, were they nice people?


did you read the part of the article that said they pulled out in front of the oncoming truck?  were you paying attention?
 
2013-10-16 07:51:39 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: it's a good thing you will never age. after all, it would be hyppocrisy for you to say this now, but when older say "it's my damn right to drive" (which you will)... and as we all know, people are never hypocritical.

PROTIP: Never artistically interpret what I say. I say precisely what I mean. Do not embellish add to/take away from, etc... you will just look like an idiot.

Also: I guess you knew these particular drivers since you made judgement calls about their abilities, and automagically assumed that the young driver was paying attention. Since you knew them, were they nice people?


Internet physician, heal thyself.
 
2013-10-16 07:54:25 AM  
I think most 90 year olds are better drivers than 100% of the children (15-25 yo) out there driving and on a par with any of the adults that compromise their driving with distractions.
They might crash now and then, sure. But we all have to go sometime and if I get taken out by a kamikaze geezer who thought my head was the exit ramp then it's all good. People are too precious about life, it's only a blink of an eye as deep thunder rolled around my shore, burning with the fires of Orc.
 
2013-10-16 07:58:20 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Hobodeluxe: sad. but dammit, 90 yr old people don't need to be out driving.

you know what I love about blanket statements? they are always wrong.


if they were tested yearly and given not only vision but motor skills ,mental acuity,cognitive tests and have a doctor sign off on them then I might feel a little better about them being on the road.
most have it in them to realize it themselves and take themselves out from behind the wheel. some have family that convince them. and others are just damned stubborn and consequences be damned. those are the ones I worry about.
 
2013-10-16 08:02:34 AM  
I once worked a car wreck where a man had crashed the car while getting head from his girlfriend. When the car hit, the airbag snapped her neck, and she bit down, severing his penis and causing him to bleed to death.

For some reason, the guy still died with a smile on his face.
 
2013-10-16 08:02:40 AM  

Parkanzky: You sound young.  It won't be as cut and dry when you have to figure out exactly when to talk to your elderly parents about not driving anymore.


Still it's less unpleasant than the conversation with somebody else's family about how sorry you are their loved one was injured or killed because of your parent's driving.
 
2013-10-16 08:04:47 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: YoOjo: I think most 90 year olds are better drivers than 100% of the children (15-25 yo) out there driving and on a par with any of the adults that compromise their driving with distractions.
They might crash now and then, sure. But we all have to go sometime and if I get taken out by a kamikaze geezer who thought my head was the exit ramp then it's all good. People are too precious about life, it's only a blink of an eye as deep thunder rolled around my shore, burning with the fires of Orc.

bearsrepeating.jpg


Fatality rates for drivers begin to climb after age 65, according to a recent study by Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh and the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety, based on data from 1999-2004. From ages 75 to 84, the rate of about three deaths per 100 million miles driven is equal to the death rate of teenage drivers. For drivers 85 and older, the fatality rate skyrockets to nearly four times higher than that for teens.
The numbers are particularly daunting at a time when the U.S. Census Bureau projects there will be 9.6 million people 85 and older by 2030, up 73% from today. Road safety analysts predict that by 2030, when all baby boomers are at least 65, they will be responsible for 25% of all fatal crashes. In 2005, 11% of fatal crashes involved drivers that old.
 
2013-10-16 08:10:04 AM  

Lorelle: "You don't see that everyday," said Trooper Rob Spencer. "We actually had to ask her to let go of him, so we could get him out of the car."

He asked her after she was killed??


I worked many years in health care. We were trained to speak to the dead as if they could still hear us out of respect.
 
2013-10-16 08:14:12 AM  
Road Head??? When I'm 90, that's how I want to check out. But she has to remove the teeth... don't want it bit off after all.
 
2013-10-16 08:21:59 AM  

Hobodeluxe: HindiDiscoMonster: YoOjo: I think most 90 year olds are better drivers than 100% of the children (15-25 yo) out there driving and on a par with any of the adults that compromise their driving with distractions.
They might crash now and then, sure. But we all have to go sometime and if I get taken out by a kamikaze geezer who thought my head was the exit ramp then it's all good. People are too precious about life, it's only a blink of an eye as deep thunder rolled around my shore, burning with the fires of Orc.

bearsrepeating.jpg

Fatality rates for drivers begin to climb after age 65, according to a recent study by Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh and the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety, based on data from 1999-2004. From ages 75 to 84, the rate of about three deaths per 100 million miles driven is equal to the death rate of teenage drivers. For drivers 85 and older, the fatality rate skyrockets to nearly four times higher than that for teens.


Is that fatality rate perhaps influenced abit because old people tend not to take injuries as well as young people?
 
2013-10-16 08:22:00 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: do those stats account for all the young bucks trying to avoid the slower drivers (older) and causing wrecks that they never seem to get caught in?


I highly doubt those numbers are strictly because of impaired driving.

Trauma morbidity and mortality in the elderly is a pretty complex topic.
 
2013-10-16 08:23:53 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Hobodeluxe: HindiDiscoMonster: Hobodeluxe: sad. but dammit, 90 yr old people don't need to be out driving.

you know what I love about blanket statements? they are always wrong.

if they were tested yearly and given not only vision but motor skills ,mental acuity,cognitive tests and have a doctor sign off on them then I might feel a little better about them being on the road.
most have it in them to realize it themselves and take themselves out from behind the wheel. some have family that convince them. and others are just damned stubborn and consequences be damned. those are the ones I worry about.

I find nothing I disagree with there, with the exception that it would not be dependent on age. Any driver who wishes to renew their license should be able to prove competence regardless of age.


Yes, because young drivers  never make mistakes.  "Let's text and drive!"
 
2013-10-16 08:28:45 AM  
Parkanzky:You sound young.  It won't be as cut and dry when you have to figure out exactly when to talk to your elderly parents about not driving anymore.

Hell my dad's 75 and I've been telling him for ten years he needs to quit driving. The man is a menace.
 
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