Begoggle: HAHA SCIENTOLOGY IS SO STOOPIDEveryone knows God came to Earth as a man and had himself killed for our sins and a guy in a pointy hat relays God's messages to us.
dittybopper: FTFA:On May 19, at 3:40 AM, Hubbard detected what he thought to be a Japanese submarine on his sonar....A report, with testimonies from other ship commanders on the scene, later found that Hubbard had fought a 68-hour naval battle against a well-known and well-charted magnetic deposit on the sea floor.SONAR doesn't work against magnetic deposits. Magnetic Anomaly Detectors work against magnetic deposits.And attacking non-existent submarines wasn't an uncommon thing back then. Even the best Brit commanders sometimes attacked phantom contacts, only to find they was no submarine.Also, the Allied ASW doctrine at that time was "hunt to exhaustion". Submarines back then had limited air and battery power, and the idea was to persist until you either destroyed the contact and had good evidence thereof, or until they surfaced.I'll give Hubbard a pass on this one.
d23: I still think Scientology might be a joke run amok. It certainly highlights the idiocy of certain groups of people.
Biner: scottydoesntknow: hardinparamedic:...WTF kind of slogan is "We Come Back"? What does that even mean?...Sea Org members sign a billion-year contract. They believe they will come back in their subsequent lifetimes and continue their work of "Clearing the Planet"./I know way too much about Scientology//My sister is in the Sea Org///Have worked with LRH's daughter on marketing projects////I knows Scientology is a load of made-up bullshiat. But no different than any other religion.
Combustion: DoomPaul: Watch out subby, the Scientologists will come for you.They might blow the shiat out of that empty house, two doors down.
DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: L. Ron Hubbard in uniform.[www.nolandalla.com image 498x313]
SomeoneDumb: iron de havilland: dittybopper: jboy: Except for that whole "well known and well charted magnetic deposit" thing.Magnetic deposits don't show up on SONAR.They show up on Magnetic Anomaly Detectors, a completely different technology.Ok, look, I'm no sub commander or anything, nor does my wife type like one.But (active) sonar works by sending out a pulse and listening for its echos, right?A magnetic deposit could be detected on sonar, not via its magnetic properties, but through its prominence on the sea floor - n'est-ce pas?I can imagine the magnetic deposit showing up if it's shape was somehow different than the surrounding terrain. A sonar might see it then and it would have nothing to do with its being magnetic or not.
dittybopper: jboy: Except for that whole "well known and well charted magnetic deposit" thing.Magnetic deposits don't show up on SONAR.They show up on Magnetic Anomaly Detectors, a completely different technology.
scottydoesntknow: hardinparamedic:...WTF kind of slogan is "We Come Back"? What does that even mean?...
dittybopper: dittybopper: jboy: Except for that whole "well known and well charted magnetic deposit" thing.Magnetic deposits don't show up on SONAR.They show up on Magnetic Anomaly Detectors, a completely different technology.Should have finished this thought: If he had a sonar contact, as TFA says, then it wasn't due to the deposit, and in fact subchasers back then didn't have MADs*, so whether or not there was a magnetic deposit there would have been irrelevant to him.*MADs have to be apart from any magnetic fields in order to be useful, so they often end up as "stingers" on the back of aircraft like the P3 Orion.
hardinparamedic: So Hubbard wasn't completely incompetent, just MOSTLY incompetent?
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