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(Slate)   Does giving your child candy mean that you are enabling a future life of drug addiction? And, further, would that make you a bad parent?   (slate.com) divider line 33
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2013-10-15 01:12:13 PM
6 votes:

NutWrench: I had already promised my daughter she could have some candy-and to be honest, I like jelly beans, too-so we snuck out to the patio to enjoy our illicit treat. As we ate, though, I couldn't help but think, What if I'm wrong? Candy is certainly not a "healthy" snack. But there I was, letting my 3-year-old eat the jelly beans, encouraging her, even. My own mother wouldn't have let me have them, that's for sure-my childhood home was a no-candy zone. Maybe I was a bad mother.

Jesus Christ, get some perspective.



Teaching your kid to sneak and "shame eat" sugar?  Yes, I'd say you're a pretty bad mother.  How about just moderation and no sneaking around?
2013-10-15 02:06:14 PM
5 votes:
Everyone makes a big stink about the "War on Christmas," but I never hear anything about the war on Halloween. People spread half-truths, conjecture and outright lies every year around this time. "Don't take your kid trick-or-treating, because [candy addiction / poison / razor blades / terrorist attack  / devil worship / kidnapping / other terrible thing] might happen." A lot of these people specifically follow a book that forbids them from bearing false witness against their neighbors, then turn around and imply  one of your neighbors might want to poison your kid for no reason.

For fark's sake, when the members of the Anti-Fun League gets their little pea-brains focused on something, they're like a dog with an old sock. They won't stop tearing away at it until it's just a mess of slobbery shreds.
2013-10-15 02:30:19 PM
3 votes:

GreenAdder: Everyone makes a big stink about the "War on Christmas," but I never hear anything about the war on Halloween. People spread half-truths, conjecture and outright lies every year around this time. "Don't take your kid trick-or-treating, because [candy addiction / poison / razor blades / terrorist attack  / devil worship / kidnapping / other terrible thing] might happen." A lot of these people specifically follow a book that forbids them from bearing false witness against their neighbors, then turn around and imply  one of your neighbors might want to poison your kid for no reason.

For fark's sake, when the members of the Anti-Fun League gets their little pea-brains focused on something, they're like a dog with an old sock. They won't stop tearing away at it until it's just a mess of slobbery shreds.


the War on Halloween in my area began 15 years ago, give or take. hypocrite adult church going types who LOVED trick-or-treating as children were swayed en masse to suddenly view harmless masquerade and candy begging as a direct pipeline to hellfire and damnation.
in short time Hall-o-ween was destroyed in our country, replaced by 'Fall Harvest' and ten other names for dragging your spawn to a house of worship for highly supervised treats exchange and some good ol fashioned givin' it up for the Lord.
retailers went the same route, with department stores carrying little pumpkin time merchandise. most of what they carried was more cutesy and happy smiley instead of spooky and ghoulish.
we all know the urban myths of bad candy have been debunked. yet these pinheads are at it more now than ever.
all the fun equipment is gone from playgrounds.
kids sports is ruined by adults beating snot out of each other in heated arguments.
if the toys you buy your tots aren't Educational you're a horrible parent.
children don't even play outside anymore.
halloween has been reduced to Ultra AW Day for legal age drinkers.
Thanks a lot, Obama.
2013-10-15 02:18:07 PM
3 votes:
Well, let's see. How many generations have grown up with candy in their lives, and how many of them turned into addicts? I'm not seeing any significant correlation here, much less a causal link. Methinks the people who want to find things to blame for all of humanity's evils are going to have to look harder.
2013-10-15 12:25:14 PM
3 votes:
I had already promised my daughter she could have some candy-and to be honest, I like jelly beans, too-so we snuck out to the patio to enjoy our illicit treat. As we ate, though, I couldn't help but think, What if I'm wrong? Candy is certainly not a "healthy" snack. But there I was, letting my 3-year-old eat the jelly beans, encouraging her, even. My own mother wouldn't have let me have them, that's for sure-my childhood home was a no-candy zone. Maybe I was a bad mother.

Jesus Christ, get some perspective.
2013-10-15 04:24:59 PM
2 votes:
My three-year-old daughter woke up this morning and the first words out of her mouth were, "Daddy, I eat ice cream cone."

I gave her a small dish of ice cream (about one tablespoon of ice cream) with a small peice of a broken waffle cone in it.

It doesn't worry me too much because for dinner last night she ate steak, brocolli, vegetable soup, and a hand roll (rice wrapped in roasted seaweed with a bit of seasoning).

She's also very active and skinny as a rail.

Getting all bent out of shape because kids crave sweets is stupid, unless that's all they are eating.
2013-10-15 03:16:07 PM
2 votes:
I'm fat.

Spent ALL my allowance at the candy store (until switching to cigarettes as a teenager). Couldn't get enough sweets. Had to fight off siblings at the table. Got molested because the old man offered free candy (and I was too young to know what was going on). Food/fat problems all my stinking life.

So, I keep candy, cookies, cakes, etc. all over the house, there to be eaten freely by whoever wants it or gets to it first. The monsters are all tall, lean, muscle machines. Ate McDonald's half their lives and still they're gorgeous. Not a single fatty in the bunch.

Because I chose NOT to restrict their access to the good stuff, they were able to train themselves to eat what their bodies needed, not just what was most readily available.

/You should see them begging for me to buy 'em veggies at the grocery store.
2013-10-15 02:19:15 PM
2 votes:
All drug usage- whether it be sugar, alcohol, cannabis, nicotine, or whatever- is a coping mechanism.  You use it when you're feeling down and, just for a bit, the world seems like a less shiatty place, and the guy you were considering punching a minute ago becomes less of a big deal.

The collective we do not like some of the ways that people choose to cope, and so we remove those things or otherwise make them much harder tho access.

And do you know what happens when you remove a person's coping mechanisms?

They can't cope.

And then they go nuts and wreck the place.
2013-10-15 02:10:06 PM
2 votes:
Oh, please, I bought candy with my spare quarters when I was a kid and I turned out OK. Most people do. What is wrong with parents these days!?


/My parents were not great parents, but not because they gave me candy.
2013-10-15 02:08:24 PM
2 votes:
No and no.

Teach your child about moderation and he'll thank you for it later.
2013-10-15 02:06:03 PM
2 votes:
No, and no.

/Thanks for playing.
2013-10-15 12:52:25 PM
2 votes:
Gary sounds like a dick.
2013-10-15 04:23:50 PM
1 votes:
radarlove:
Mose: No Such Agency: If there's one thing that reading about parenting (especially on the internet) has taught me, it is that EVERYTHING supposedly makes you a "bad parent". As a kid I ran around playing with realistic toy guns and eating powdered sugar out of a plastic tube, and I grew up to be a guy who reads reasonably good books, rescues spiders from the bathtub, and donates to charity. The only things I seem to be "addicted to" are procrastination and my wife's ass.

My brother from another mother.  This sums my life up very well.

That took a lot of balls to admit, but you've inspired me.

Hi, my name is Radar, and I too am addicted to No Such Agency's wife's ass.


I can't even be mad.  Fact is it's amazing and I can't blame you guys one bit.

At least she's not home schooled :/
2013-10-15 04:17:51 PM
1 votes:

Ant: radarlove: All drug usage- whether it be sugar, alcohol, cannabis, nicotine, or whatever- is a coping mechanism.  You use it when you're feeling down and, just for a bit, the world seems like a less shiatty place, and the guy you were considering punching a minute ago becomes less of a big deal.

The collective we do not like some of the ways that people choose to cope, and so we remove those things or otherwise make them much harder tho access.

And do you know what happens when you remove a person's coping mechanisms?

They can't cope.

And then they go nuts and wreck the place.

I really don't like the whole idea that everything is a coping mechanism. It's bullshiat. Some people like the taste of candy, some like the high from a drug or from alcohol. That's all there is to it. It doesn't necessarily mean they need it to cope with something.


You don't like it because you're making the fallacious assumption that a coping mechanism is a bad thing.  Everyone, everywhere has something that they need to cope with.  It is one of the very few universal constants involving humanity.  Doing something that you enjoy is how you tolerate having to do all of the other shiat that you don't.

Doesn't matter what that something is (drugs, sex, long showers or a good book), if it is helping you to tolerate or otherwise forget the bad stuff in your life, it is helping you cope.  Therefore, it is a coping mechanism.

You NEED coping mechanisms.  They are not bad things.

Without them most people would eventually lose their farking shiat.
2013-10-15 03:51:42 PM
1 votes:
ts2.mm.bing.net

This is your brain on sugar. It really is. Sugar destroys kids brains and makes them taste great with bacon.
Ant
2013-10-15 03:25:13 PM
1 votes:
Her husband, Gary, had been listening to the exchange, and with a dark glare in my direction, he hissed at Laura, "Oh, so I guess you'll start giving him crack now, too?"

Gary is a farking moron. Everyone I know ate tons upon tons of candy as a kid, and none of them are junkies. Shouldn't at least one of them be a junky if there's some link?
2013-10-15 03:19:29 PM
1 votes:

George Babbitt: Russ1642: George Babbitt: Sugar isn't the problem, it's the petroleum based dyes, flavors and sweeteners that are the problem.

So the non petroleum based ones are ok then. Gotta love people who think the origin of a chemical has anything to do with its effects. If it comes from a plant it's wonderful. Comes from anything else and it'll give you brain cancer.

The origin mention gets people to stop and think, and the proof is in the pudding, U.S. markets just don't care that much, which is why a company will sell a food product in Europe with no artificial ingredients and then sell the same labeled product with artificial ingredients here in the U.S.


I think you're missing the point. 'Artificial' doesn't matter. If a chemical is harmful then say so. Whether it comes from a plant, animal, fossil fuel, dirt, or lab is irrelevant.
2013-10-15 03:05:27 PM
1 votes:

Mighty_Joe: Pitabred: It's because they can't make it into some religious persecution complex thing. As soon as someone attaches Halloween to some saint, you'll see the tide changing.

Halloween == All Hallows' Eve == the night before All Saint's Day.  It's already attached to ALL the saints.


Not so many folks remember that nowadays, though.

Probably best to keep it on the down-low, though. You don't want them thinking this is what people want to do to Christmas.
2013-10-15 03:01:35 PM
1 votes:

Pitabred: It's because they can't make it into some religious persecution complex thing. As soon as someone attaches Halloween to some saint, you'll see the tide changing.


Halloween == All Hallows' Eve == the night before All Saint's Day.  It's already attached to ALL the saints.
2013-10-15 03:01:34 PM
1 votes:
I don't know about candy leading to drug addiction but I used candy to get off heroin.

True story.

And really, it's about addictive personalities, not anything else. Candy, dope, crack, work, sex, working out, origami, it doesn't matter.

/sugar!
2013-10-15 02:55:04 PM
1 votes:
I suppose if you're teaching your kids to use candy as a means of avoiding or coping with stress or other forms of inner turmoil, or if you're giving them a candy that is highly addictive and not providing the support and stability necessary for helping them maintain an addiction-free life, then OK.

Also, if providing a sketchy financial means for supporting his or her candy habit, such as being the getaway driver while they go into a gas station to knock off the register and maybe pop 2 rounds into the clerk while screaming "Take that, Kumar!"...

then taking the score directly to a local candy store and binging that sh*t down in a nearby alley, then yes, you may be enabling the lifestyle of a future drug addict.
2013-10-15 02:52:17 PM
1 votes:

UtileDysfunktion: Sin_City_Superhero: 
OK, smart guy...If I don't give out candy, what other option is there?

I'm giving away the little bottles of mouthwash, tiny tubes of toothpaste, and small packets of dental floss I get for free from the dentist's office.

/ keeping the toothbrushes
// I actually use those


The flouride mouthwash or the alcohol mouthwash?

Just warning you that parents might have a problem with the latter.

/also, don't give out nips of barton's vodka, that doesn't fly either
2013-10-15 02:44:20 PM
1 votes:

hailin: Gary reminds me of my sister when my oldest niece was about 2. She brought her for a sleepover at my moms house and packed my niece some weird organic breakfast mash. My mom couldn't get her to eat it, so she grabbed a PopTart which was an occassional breakfast food in the house growing up. My sister FLIPPED. Like if her head could have spinned around and around it would have. She called our mom everything in the book (horrible parent, uncaring, evil, etc.) and refused to let her see the grandchild for a few months until it was convenient to need a babysitter.

Now she is just the opposite. She developed "fibrolyalsia" and doesn't have the energy/pain tolerance for healthy meals, so the have monkey bread, pancakes, waffles, hot dogs, boxed mac and cheese, and microwave meals at home when they "cook" and pizza or McD's when she is too "sick". As you can imagine, she's a whale and the kids are well on their way. Also the oldest niece has asthma so she "can't exercise" which makes matters worse for her.

It is sad to see, but what can you do? CPC doesn't give a damn as long as the kids are being fed, clothed, and have no bruises. When they come to visit we try to have dinners in with healthy foods, but then my sister complains about us judging her. Well...I am, but my parents just want to keep the peace so they can spoil their grandkids.


Fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome are the two current competing disorders for people who don't want to be diagnosed and treated for depression.
2013-10-15 02:32:16 PM
1 votes:
Gary reminds me of my sister when my oldest niece was about 2. She brought her for a sleepover at my moms house and packed my niece some weird organic breakfast mash. My mom couldn't get her to eat it, so she grabbed a PopTart which was an occassional breakfast food in the house growing up. My sister FLIPPED. Like if her head could have spinned around and around it would have. She called our mom everything in the book (horrible parent, uncaring, evil, etc.) and refused to let her see the grandchild for a few months until it was convenient to need a babysitter.

Now she is just the opposite. She developed "fibrolyalsia" and doesn't have the energy/pain tolerance for healthy meals, so the have monkey bread, pancakes, waffles, hot dogs, boxed mac and cheese, and microwave meals at home when they "cook" and pizza or McD's when she is too "sick". As you can imagine, she's a whale and the kids are well on their way. Also the oldest niece has asthma so she "can't exercise" which makes matters worse for her.

It is sad to see, but what can you do? CPC doesn't give a damn as long as the kids are being fed, clothed, and have no bruises. When they come to visit we try to have dinners in with healthy foods, but then my sister complains about us judging her. Well...I am, but my parents just want to keep the peace so they can spoil their grandkids.
2013-10-15 02:29:37 PM
1 votes:

Snapper Carr: No and no.

Teach your child about moderation and he'll thank you for it later.


That would logically make sense but the problem with people like the one guy in the article who seemed to be on the verge of calling CPS on the writer of the article is that with regard to candy or any other sugared food there's no such thing as moderation.  One jelly bean is one too many.  There like 19th century prohibitionists who preached that one glass of beer would be enough to destroy your liver, turn you into an unemployable wife-beating, child-neglecting drunkard, and condemn your soul to hell.
2013-10-15 02:24:17 PM
1 votes:

Sin_City_Superhero: OK...so don't give kids candy this Halloween. Got it. Blowjobs are still cool though, right?



You give blowjobs to kids?


/have a seat over there
2013-10-15 02:22:34 PM
1 votes:
If you have reproduced, you are already a bad parent. There really isn't much you can do about it, just keep 'em out of jail and die before them for your 100% mission completion trophy.
2013-10-15 02:22:25 PM
1 votes:

Sin_City_Superhero: OK...so don't give kids candy this Halloween. Got it. Blowjobs are still cool though, right?


Depends on who's giving and who's getting. Steaks are always an appropriate gift as well. Especially if you're dealing with a militant vegan.
2013-10-15 02:18:34 PM
1 votes:

George Babbitt: Sugar isn't the problem, it's the petroleum based dyes, flavors and sweeteners that are the problem.


So the non petroleum based ones are ok then. Gotta love people who think the origin of a chemical has anything to do with its effects. If it comes from a plant it's wonderful. Comes from anything else and it'll give you brain cancer.
2013-10-15 02:10:29 PM
1 votes:
Again, when the headline is a question, the answer is always


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2013-10-15 02:06:51 PM
1 votes:

Combustion: miss diminutive: Rev.K: When I was 8, I had salt water taffy for the first time. It was glorious.

The next day, I was shooting speedballs on skid row with hobos.

True story.

I started with taffy as well. Soon I was blowing boys behind the basketball court during recess for Reese's Pieces.

True Story.

Woah, they'll give me something for that????


Not now. You've already given it away for free.
2013-10-15 02:02:22 PM
1 votes:
I hate most candy...but I farking LOVE marujuana.


/Theory debunked
//Go back to what you were doing
2013-10-15 01:10:16 PM
1 votes:

Rev.K: When I was 8, I had salt water taffy for the first time. It was glorious.

The next day, I was shooting speedballs on skid row with hobos.

True story.


I started with taffy as well. Soon I was blowing boys behind the basketball court during recess for Reese's Pieces.

True Story.
 
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