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(New York Daily News)   Good news: New York City went seven days without residents killing each other. Bad news: That statement is past tense   (nydailynews.com) divider line 77
    More: Sad, Big Apple, New York City, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, Kings County Hospital, New York City Police Department  
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2013-10-15 03:31:33 PM  

Kaeishiwaza: Yet another reason why I love living in the capital of the world.  NYC is the Justin Timberlake of American cities.  Try as you might to find reasons to hate it, you realize that it's still better than the place you live.


With attitudes like yours, I can't understand why so many people think that NYers are pretentious douchebags.
 
2013-10-15 03:33:28 PM  
People who think they know what NYC is like and get all BUTTHURT about it are so cute.
 
2013-10-15 03:36:54 PM  
7 days? That's not possible since all the good guys who follow laws in New York City don't own a gun and I have been assured that if you don't have good guys with guns it's all rape'n and murder'n 24/7.
 
2013-10-15 03:49:10 PM  
Less murders occur when it is rainy
 
2013-10-15 03:49:58 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.

Towards each other, though, New Yorkers are kind and generous.

I once had a New Yorker tell me he intentionally gives tourists wrong directions. I told him he just confirmed my suspicion that he's an asshole. He got mad. I'd actually met the guy a few times, so it wasn't some random dude that I was making a snap judgement about.


If it's any consolation, I give New Yorkers the wrong directions when they come to Pennsylvania.
 
2013-10-15 03:51:22 PM  

skinink: Well, when the cops are illegally stopping and frisking anyone they consider a potential perp, at some point everyone just gets tired of the harassment and chills out for awhile.


You'd think that wouldn't you...if you hadn't read the article:

...the murder-free weeks this year have come during a period in which the NYPD has cut back sharply on stops
 
2013-10-15 03:54:46 PM  
Best news?

The only people murdered were...New Yorkers! It's a win-win!
 
2013-10-15 03:59:09 PM  

RexTalionis: Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.


Not that different. Maybe you're thinking of Memphis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
 
2013-10-15 04:43:31 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: You'll note that this 7 day streak occurred following the cessation of stop-and-frisk. I dunno how NYPD is going to fearmonger to get that policy reinstated now.


Last night someone was shot in the Upper West Side of all places. On the news of course a guy was blaming the lack of stop-and-frisk for this crime. The kicker? He was black.
 
2013-10-15 04:47:39 PM  

Ackthp: RexTalionis: Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.

Not that different. Maybe you're thinking of Memphis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate


In your link, Nashville, TN had 1,181 violent crimes per 100,000. In contrast, New York City had 624 violent crimes per 100,000.

That's a bit of a difference.
 
2013-10-15 04:55:45 PM  

GanjSmokr: Kaeishiwaza: Yet another reason why I love living in the capital of the world.  NYC is the Justin Timberlake of American cities.  Try as you might to find reasons to hate it, you realize that it's still better than the place you live.

With attitudes like yours, I can't understand why so many people think that NYers are pretentious douchebags.


Oh good.  Does that mean you aren't coming?  Excellent.
 
2013-10-15 05:17:31 PM  
There are two ways you can really screw up your kid.  First is having weak boundaries, the second, too many boundaries.  The trick is to pick your battles wisely.  You make them about silly things, like candy or believing in Jesus, you are wasting ammunition.
 
2013-10-15 05:26:49 PM  

RexTalionis: Ackthp: RexTalionis: Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.

Not that different. Maybe you're thinking of Memphis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

In your link, Nashville, TN had 1,181 violent crimes per 100,000. In contrast, New York City had 624 violent crimes per 100,000.

That's a bit of a difference.


You're right. I could have sworn Nashville beat NYC in at least one column, but it loses across the board. Not that I put much faith in comparative violent crimes statistics, because a change to the low end threshold of what is recorded as violent crime could double or halve the statistics without changing the reality, but Nashville loses in the more clearly defined categories of homicide and auto theft anyway.
 
2013-10-15 05:38:57 PM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: There are two ways you can really screw up your kid.  First is having weak boundaries, the second, too many boundaries.  The trick is to pick your battles wisely.  You make them about silly things, like candy or believing in Jesus, you are wasting ammunition.


Which you could be using to commit murder in NYC?  I'm just not getting your point here.
 
2013-10-15 05:39:19 PM  

Hermione_Granger: skinink: Well, when the cops are illegally stopping and frisking anyone they consider a potential perp, at some point everyone just gets tired of the harassment and chills out for awhile.

You'd think that wouldn't you...if you hadn't read the article:

...the murder-free weeks this year have come during a period in which the NYPD has cut back sharply on stops


Read the article? Why would I waste time doing that?
 
2013-10-15 05:59:46 PM  
This is just reported murders.
 
2013-10-15 06:12:24 PM  

keypusher: Some Coke Drinking Guy: There are two ways you can really screw up your kid.  First is having weak boundaries, the second, too many boundaries.  The trick is to pick your battles wisely.  You make them about silly things, like candy or believing in Jesus, you are wasting ammunition.

Which you could be using to commit murder in NYC?  I'm just not getting your point here.


Pretty sure he thought he was in the "Candy = Drugs" thread. Basing this on "screw up your kid" and "candy."

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.

Towards each other, though, New Yorkers are kind and generous.


If true*, that still makes them assholes.

*And I'm sure it's true...for a few.
 
2013-10-15 06:21:24 PM  
Kaeishiwaza: Yet another reason why I love living in the capital of the world.  NYC is the Justin Timberlake of American cities.  Try as you might to find reasons to hate it, you realize that it's still better than the place you live.


Enjoy your shiatty cold/wet winter.   Personally, I like our beaches, tanned people and the mountains.
 
2013-10-15 06:57:19 PM  

paswa17: How long has Chicago gone?

/in hours or minutes, obviously
//because there's no way it's even been a whole day


Sadly, yeah. I just moved to VA from Chicago, and every Monday was like "ok, how many people got shot and/or killed this weekend?". If it was a holiday weekend, you could expect at least 20-30 come monday. Especially coming out of Englewood, Austin, Roseland, or Tha Hunneds. I also passed through Baltimore on my way here and caught the news reporting the murder rates. Per capita, it's as bad or worse than Chicago. It's just that Chicago has the most.
Last time I could remember a day or two without any shootings in Chicago was during that superblizzard in 2011. Can't exactly do drive-by's in that!
 
2013-10-15 07:40:12 PM  

Kaeishiwaza: GanjSmokr: Kaeishiwaza: Yet another reason why I love living in the capital of the world.  NYC is the Justin Timberlake of American cities.  Try as you might to find reasons to hate it, you realize that it's still better than the place you live.

With attitudes like yours, I can't understand why so many people think that NYers are pretentious douchebags.

Oh good.  Does that mean you aren't coming?  Excellent.


No, I won't be visiting NY.  There's nothing of interest to me there that I can't get here in fly-over country and there are also things there that I actively try to avoid.

Should I assume you'll be staying in NY and not visiting any of the other dirty lower class states?  We won't miss you, superstar.
 
2013-10-15 10:32:50 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Kaeishiwaza: Yet another reason why I love living in the capital of the world.  NYC is the Justin Timberlake of American cities.  Try as you might to find reasons to hate it, you realize that it's still better than the place you live.


Enjoy your shiatty cold/wet winter.   Personally, I like our beaches, tanned people and the mountains.


We have Florida for that and don't have to live in a single-industry, factory town.
 
2013-10-16 08:23:02 AM  

GanjSmokr: No, I won't be visiting NY. There's nothing of interest to me there that I can't get here in fly-over country and there are also things there that I actively try to avoid.


No interest in the art, food, people, parks, museums, etc?  It is a really fun city.  What do you actively avoid and why would you not want to visit?
 
2013-10-16 08:39:27 AM  

Gunny Highway: GanjSmokr: No, I won't be visiting NY. There's nothing of interest to me there that I can't get here in fly-over country and there are also things there that I actively try to avoid.

No interest in the art, food, people, parks, museums, etc?  It is a really fun city.  What do you actively avoid and why would you not want to visit?


No interest in anything that I can't already do/see/get where I am.  We have art, people, parks, and museums in fly-over country as well.  I'm sure our versions of these things would never be sufficient for the elite of the big city, but they work fine for us country mice.

For the most part, I try to avoid large crowds of people and traffic.  NYC (or any big city) really has nothing special, AFAIC.
 
2013-10-16 08:45:07 AM  

GanjSmokr: Gunny Highway: GanjSmokr: No, I won't be visiting NY. There's nothing of interest to me there that I can't get here in fly-over country and there are also things there that I actively try to avoid.

No interest in the art, food, people, parks, museums, etc?  It is a really fun city.  What do you actively avoid and why would you not want to visit?

No interest in anything that I can't already do/see/get where I am.  We have art, people, parks, and museums in fly-over country as well.  I'm sure our versions of these things would never be sufficient for the elite of the big city, but they work fine for us country mice.

For the most part, I try to avoid large crowds of people and traffic.  NYC (or any big city) really has nothing special, AFAIC.


The museums in NYC have different art than the art in other cities though.  To each his own but I suggest making a trip some day, I think you would be pleasantly surprised.

I can understand not liking traffic and crowds but I will tell you there is public transportation and fun parts of the city that arent crowded.


/Also, I have never used the term "fly-over country"
 
2013-10-16 09:09:01 AM  

Gunny Highway: GanjSmokr: Gunny Highway: GanjSmokr: No, I won't be visiting NY. There's nothing of interest to me there that I can't get here in fly-over country and there are also things there that I actively try to avoid.

No interest in the art, food, people, parks, museums, etc?  It is a really fun city.  What do you actively avoid and why would you not want to visit?

No interest in anything that I can't already do/see/get where I am.  We have art, people, parks, and museums in fly-over country as well.  I'm sure our versions of these things would never be sufficient for the elite of the big city, but they work fine for us country mice.

For the most part, I try to avoid large crowds of people and traffic.  NYC (or any big city) really has nothing special, AFAIC.

The museums in NYC have different art than the art in other cities though.  To each his own but I suggest making a trip some day, I think you would be pleasantly surprised.

I can understand not liking traffic and crowds but I will tell you there is public transportation and fun parts of the city that arent crowded.


/Also, I have never used the term "fly-over country"


I'm sure they have different art/restaurants/opera/etc than other cities.  That doesn't change my lack of desire to ever go there.

I personally don't mind people calling the non-coastal areas "fly-over country".  It usually means they won't be stopping by to tell us how terrible it is here and how much better their city is.
 
2013-10-16 09:25:03 AM  

GanjSmokr: Gunny Highway: GanjSmokr: Gunny Highway: GanjSmokr: No, I won't be visiting NY. There's nothing of interest to me there that I can't get here in fly-over country and there are also things there that I actively try to avoid.

No interest in the art, food, people, parks, museums, etc?  It is a really fun city.  What do you actively avoid and why would you not want to visit?

No interest in anything that I can't already do/see/get where I am.  We have art, people, parks, and museums in fly-over country as well.  I'm sure our versions of these things would never be sufficient for the elite of the big city, but they work fine for us country mice.

For the most part, I try to avoid large crowds of people and traffic.  NYC (or any big city) really has nothing special, AFAIC.

The museums in NYC have different art than the art in other cities though.  To each his own but I suggest making a trip some day, I think you would be pleasantly surprised.

I can understand not liking traffic and crowds but I will tell you there is public transportation and fun parts of the city that arent crowded.


/Also, I have never used the term "fly-over country"

I'm sure they have different art/restaurants/opera/etc than other cities.  That doesn't change my lack of desire to ever go there.

I personally don't mind people calling the non-coastal areas "fly-over country".  It usually means they won't be stopping by to tell us how terrible it is here and how much better their city is.


Okay.
 
2013-10-16 10:21:50 AM  
The crowded streets and sidewalks are actually some of the tings I like *most* about New York. As a shy, unambitious upstate boy I get a thrill out of how lively and active the place is.
 
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