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(New York Daily News)   Good news: New York City went seven days without residents killing each other. Bad news: That statement is past tense   (nydailynews.com) divider line 77
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2013-10-15 12:52:38 PM
that's amazing. that many people and no one got mad enough to kill someone else for a whole week?
 
2013-10-15 01:27:49 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: that's amazing. that many people and no one got mad enough to kill someone else for a whole week?


Maybe air quality was low and people couldn't aim very well.
 
2013-10-15 01:53:29 PM
I'm sure they'll make up for lost time soon enough.
 
2013-10-15 01:59:38 PM
I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.

Towards each other, though, New Yorkers are kind and generous.
 
2013-10-15 02:03:51 PM
I'm sure there's some mother-in-law's festering body in some second bedroom somewhere, so don't count your eggs, New York.
 
2013-10-15 02:04:41 PM
No murders to solve?

pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com

 So bored...
 
2013-10-15 02:04:53 PM
I have to wonder how many attempted murders there were in that time period... maybe last week wasn't because of lack of trying and people there just aren't all that good at murdering each other anymore.
 
2013-10-15 02:05:36 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.

Towards each other, though, New Yorkers are kind and generous.


I once had a New Yorker tell me he intentionally gives tourists wrong directions. I told him he just confirmed my suspicion that he's an asshole. He got mad. I'd actually met the guy a few times, so it wasn't some random dude that I was making a snap judgement about.
 
2013-10-15 02:05:40 PM
Well, when the cops are illegally stopping and frisking anyone they consider a potential perp, at some point everyone just gets tired of the harassment and chills out for awhile.
 
2013-10-15 02:06:07 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.

Towards each other, though, New Yorkers are kind and generous.


Having been to New York and done the tourist bit I'd have to question this. Everyone was pretty friendly.
 
2013-10-15 02:06:30 PM
BWAH NYERS ARE JERKS!
 
2013-10-15 02:06:37 PM
How long has Chicago gone?

/in hours or minutes, obviously
//because there's no way it's even been a whole day
 
2013-10-15 02:07:06 PM

Mike Chewbacca: AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.

Towards each other, though, New Yorkers are kind and generous.

I once had a New Yorker tell me he intentionally gives tourists wrong directions. I told him he just confirmed my suspicion that he's an asshole. He got mad. I'd actually met the guy a few times, so it wasn't some random dude that I was making a snap judgement about.


This happened to me in Arizona.
 
2013-10-15 02:07:20 PM
Have they dredged the East River this week?

Just askin'.
 
2013-10-15 02:09:25 PM
NYC is sort of the tough guy who went soft over the years.  It's all bark - no bite.

I'd be more impressed if Detroit or Oakland went without a murder in a week.
 
2013-10-15 02:10:28 PM

Gonz: Have they dredged the East River this week?

Just askin'.


Good point.  Just because they haven't found the bodies yet, doesn't mean there weren't murders
 
2013-10-15 02:11:10 PM
Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.
 
2013-10-15 02:11:12 PM

Gunny Highway: Mike Chewbacca: AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.

Towards each other, though, New Yorkers are kind and generous.

I once had a New Yorker tell me he intentionally gives tourists wrong directions. I told him he just confirmed my suspicion that he's an asshole. He got mad. I'd actually met the guy a few times, so it wasn't some random dude that I was making a snap judgement about.

This happened to me in Arizona.


Wow, those must have been *really* wrong directions.
 
2013-10-15 02:11:23 PM

Ned Stark: AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.

Towards each other, though, New Yorkers are kind and generous.

Having been to New York and done the tourist bit I'd have to question this. Everyone was pretty friendly.



NYC resident here.  I like to be helpful (when time permits) to tourists, not only giving directions but offering suggestions of other activities, etc. that are along their route.  Maybe I just love this city, or love that out-of-towners spend crazy amounts of money here, who knows.
 
2013-10-15 02:13:24 PM

belhade: Gunny Highway: Mike Chewbacca: AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.

Towards each other, though, New Yorkers are kind and generous.

I once had a New Yorker tell me he intentionally gives tourists wrong directions. I told him he just confirmed my suspicion that he's an asshole. He got mad. I'd actually met the guy a few times, so it wasn't some random dude that I was making a snap judgement about.

This happened to me in Arizona.

Wow, those must have been *really* wrong directions.


Wrong turn at Albuquerque.

GuyFawkes: NYC resident here. I like to be helpful (when time permits) to tourists, not only giving directions but offering suggestions of other activities, etc. that are along their route. Maybe I just love this city, or love that out-of-towners spend crazy amounts of money here, who knows.


farking arrogant know-it-all NYer.  I hate you.
 
2013-10-15 02:15:17 PM

Gunny Highway: belhade: Gunny Highway: Mike Chewbacca: AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.

Towards each other, though, New Yorkers are kind and generous.

I once had a New Yorker tell me he intentionally gives tourists wrong directions. I told him he just confirmed my suspicion that he's an asshole. He got mad. I'd actually met the guy a few times, so it wasn't some random dude that I was making a snap judgement about.

This happened to me in Arizona.

Wow, those must have been *really* wrong directions.

Wrong turn at Albuquerque.

GuyFawkes: NYC resident here. I like to be helpful (when time permits) to tourists, not only giving directions but offering suggestions of other activities, etc. that are along their route. Maybe I just love this city, or love that out-of-towners spend crazy amounts of money here, who knows.

farking arrogant know-it-all NYer.  I hate you.



You're welcome!  When you visit I won't steer you away from TGI Friday's then, masshole.

/kidding
 
2013-10-15 02:16:20 PM
I gave someone badly wrong directions once in error.  I went running after them but couldn't find them.

NYPD doesn't count killings by cops as murders so the numbers may be artificially low.  They also make it incredibly difficult to report petty crime so those numbers are artificially low as well.
 
2013-10-15 02:17:05 PM

miss diminutive: people couldn't aim very well.


I see you've met the NYPD.   http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57602998/
 
2013-10-15 02:17:36 PM

SirEattonHogg: NYC is sort of the tough guy who went soft over the years.  It's all bark - no bite.

I'd be more impressed if Detroit or Oakland went without a murder in a week.


I'd be impressed if Chicago could go 7 minutes without some punk shooting somebody
 
2013-10-15 02:22:35 PM
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make sure they didn't just hire someone from down south?
 
2013-10-15 02:24:51 PM
I know everyone likes (?) to get paranoid about rising crime (or, perhaps more kindly, the media plays into our cognitive biases) but the murder rate is WAAAAAAAYYYY lower in NYC than it was in the 1990s.

So chill out dudes, you're living in pretty good times!
 
2013-10-15 02:32:05 PM
Murder is just not that common in New York.  419 in 2012, a 50-year low.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/mur de r_in_nyc_2012.pdf
 
2013-10-15 02:32:30 PM

RexTalionis: Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.


Statistically speaking, your brain doesn't work as well in New York than in Nashville (21% higher anxiety disorder rates, 39% higher depression, double the schizophrenia).  But hey, you're statistically less likely to get shot while you drag yourself through your neurotic miserable existence, so you've got that going for you.
 
2013-10-15 02:34:37 PM

susler: I gave someone badly wrong directions once in error.  I went running after them but couldn't find them.

NYPD doesn't count killings by cops as murders so the numbers may be artificially low.  They also make it incredibly difficult to report petty crime so those numbers are artificially low as well.


According to this, NYPD killed 13 people in 2011 and 19 in the first 9 months of 2012.

http://socialistworker.org/2012/10/29/nypd-murders-on-the-rise

So, I doubt that is going to affect the overall homicide rate much.
 
2013-10-15 02:37:02 PM

Son of Thunder: RexTalionis: Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.

Statistically speaking, your brain doesn't work as well in New York than in Nashville (21% higher anxiety disorder rates, 39% higher depression, double the schizophrenia).  But hey, you're statistically less likely to get shot while you drag yourself through your neurotic miserable existence, so you've got that going for you.


Y'know a neurotic miserable existence beats living in Tennessee any day of the week. And I'm not from NYC.
 
2013-10-15 02:37:53 PM

Son of Thunder: RexTalionis: Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.

Statistically speaking, your brain doesn't work as well in New York than in Nashville (21% higher anxiety disorder rates, 39% higher depression, double the schizophrenia).  But hey, you're statistically less likely to get shot while you drag yourself through your neurotic miserable existence, so you've got that going for you.


I was neurotic and miserable before I arrived here, thanks.  Two things to bear in mind:

NYC probably attracts more anxious, neurotic people.

Crazy people are probably more likely to get counted -- and helped -- here than elsewhere.
 
2013-10-15 02:39:30 PM

Son of Thunder: RexTalionis: Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.

Statistically speaking, your brain doesn't work as well in New York than in Nashville (21% higher anxiety disorder rates, 39% higher depression, double the schizophrenia).  But hey, you're statistically less likely to get shot while you drag yourself through your neurotic miserable existence, so you've got that going for you.


Why are you being such a jerk?  Wait, dont tell me, you are a New Yorker.
 
2013-10-15 02:40:54 PM
It's because we stopped putting lead in gas and made abortion legal.
 
2013-10-15 02:42:32 PM
Now if they could just accomplish something of lasting importance, like banning 24 ounce sodas!
 
2013-10-15 02:43:27 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: It's because we stopped putting lead in gas and made abortion legal.


Everyone has their narrative explaining the fall in crime that no one saw coming.  That's the left-wing one.  I prefer to credit fascist police tactics.
 
2013-10-15 02:44:17 PM

keypusher: Son of Thunder: RexTalionis: Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.

Statistically speaking, your brain doesn't work as well in New York than in Nashville (21% higher anxiety disorder rates, 39% higher depression, double the schizophrenia).  But hey, you're statistically less likely to get shot while you drag yourself through your neurotic miserable existence, so you've got that going for you.

I was neurotic and miserable before I arrived here, thanks.  Two things to bear in mind:

NYC probably attracts more anxious, neurotic people.

Crazy people are probably more likely to get counted -- and helped -- here than elsewhere.


Very true.  City-funded hospitals provide excellent mental health care for people unable to afford it otherwise, like most schizophrenics and other people with severe psychiatric disorders.  They even get their medications for free.

/but but but socialism
 
2013-10-15 02:45:01 PM
Overall, it's always been my experience that New Yorkers are more courteous, trustworthy, and friendly than the average American. There are outliers and that's anecdotal, cherrypicked data from working in Manhattan (limiting my exposure chiefly to employable, educated people who are capable of functioning in human society without police attention), but that's what I've always gotten in my dealings.

If you want to meet some miserable, dead-eyed, shady motherf*ckers, tool around the desperate, Rust Belty parts of upstate where the neurotypicals mostly fled downstate or to North Carolina years ago. Saying this as someone who lives in one of those parts, some of these people should be napalmed because the Zombie Apocalypse has begun and we need to contain the pathogen.
 
2013-10-15 02:46:39 PM
New York City has a population larger than 39 of the states. It has an economy larger than all of Mexico, with its population of 120,000,000. You could even throw Austria in and it still wouldn't equal New York's.

All of this with 27,000 people per square mile. The fact that it managed to go even one day without a homicide is something to be really impressed with. New York is amazing.
 
2013-10-15 02:57:29 PM
They just went seven days without finding a body.
 
2013-10-15 02:59:16 PM

keypusher: Murder is just not that common in New York.  419 in 2012, a 50-year low.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/mur de r_in_nyc_2012.pdf


This. Per 100k in 2012:

64.9 Flint, Michigan
54.6 Detroit, Michigan
53.5 New Orleans, Louisiana
35.5 St. Louis, Missouri
35.0 Baltimore, Maryland
33.7 Birmingham, Alabama
33.1 Newark, New Jersey
33.1 Oakland, California
28.9 Baton Rouge, Louisiana
24.6 Cleveland, Ohio
24.1 Memphis, Tennessee
_5.6 National Average
_4.9 New York, New York


Sources:
http://www.policymic.com/articles/22686/america-s-10-deadliest-citie s- 2012
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in- th e-u.s.-2012/tables/16tabledatadecpdf (broken down by city sizes)
 
2013-10-15 02:59:42 PM

Gunny Highway: Son of Thunder: RexTalionis: Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.

Statistically speaking, your brain doesn't work as well in New York than in Nashville (21% higher anxiety disorder rates, 39% higher depression, double the schizophrenia).  But hey, you're statistically less likely to get shot while you drag yourself through your neurotic miserable existence, so you've got that going for you.

Why are you being such a jerk?  Wait, dont tell me, you are a New Yorker.


I do it because today is my day.
 
2013-10-15 02:59:42 PM

Son of Thunder: RexTalionis: Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.

Statistically speaking, your brain doesn't work as well in New York than in Nashville (21% higher anxiety disorder rates, 39% higher depression, double the schizophrenia).  But hey, you're statistically less likely to get shot while you drag yourself through your neurotic miserable existence, so you've got that going for you.


Yeah, you're in a hyper-competitive environment surrounded by other hyper-competitive types, usually working 70 hour weeks with low free time and nobody going out of their way to be your friend.  People either adapt to it or start going crazy.
 
2013-10-15 03:01:09 PM

Son of Thunder: Gunny Highway: Son of Thunder: RexTalionis: Statistically speaking, you are a hell of a lot safer in New York City than in, say, Nashville, Tennessee.

Statistically speaking, your brain doesn't work as well in New York than in Nashville (21% higher anxiety disorder rates, 39% higher depression, double the schizophrenia).  But hey, you're statistically less likely to get shot while you drag yourself through your neurotic miserable existence, so you've got that going for you.

Why are you being such a jerk?  Wait, dont tell me, you are a New Yorker.

I do it because today is my day.


Cheers to you!  Enjoy, ya bum!
 
2013-10-15 03:03:01 PM
How much would that suck? Your place in history is ending a week-long murderless streak.

If that dude had just toughened up and not died, it could have gone longer.
 
2013-10-15 03:10:54 PM
Meanwhile Detroit, a city with a fraction of the population and shrinking, struggles to go 7 hours without a homicide.
 
2013-10-15 03:18:59 PM
You'll note that this 7 day streak occurred following the cessation of stop-and-frisk. I dunno how NYPD is going to fearmonger to get that policy reinstated now.
 
2013-10-15 03:21:46 PM

keypusher: Murder is just not that common in New York.  419 in 2012, a 50-year low.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/mur de r_in_nyc_2012.pdf



Yup, and dropping further this year. We're down about 25% on last year (the period from Jan 1 to today) so far. Last year had an unusually low murder rate in November-December after Sandy, so we'll see the city can keep that heavy annualized drop late in the year. But murders have dropped every year for over two decades now.
 
2013-10-15 03:23:03 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.

Towards each other, though, New Yorkers are kind and generous.


Being assholes to people simply because they are from out of town? Yeah, they sound like sweethearts and not the least bit murdery.
 
2013-10-15 03:25:11 PM
Yet another reason why I love living in the capital of the world.  NYC is the Justin Timberlake of American cities.  Try as you might to find reasons to hate it, you realize that it's still better than the place you live.
 
2013-10-15 03:26:37 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not surprised. People think New Yorkers are assholes, but they are actually only assholes to out-of-towners. Tourists are especially targeted for assholish behavior.


The important thing is that it's socially acceptable to hate someone -- doesn't really matter who, but rage needs an outlet.
 
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