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(WTOP)   Think "Obama iz a seekrit Mooslem" was bad? Wait until the Tea Party hears about the son of a slain Sikh cleric challenging Paul Ryan for his Congressional seat   (wtop.com) divider line 136
    More: Obvious, First Lady Michelle Obama, Sikhs, gun regulation, U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan, tea party, vice presidential candidate, exploratory committee, House Budget Committee  
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2013-10-15 10:18:26 AM  
They don't care that both McCain and Cruz were demonstrably born outside of the USA, and 15 years ago
would have supported an amendment that would have allowed Arnold Schwarzenegger to become president.

Screw them all.
 
2013-10-15 10:36:29 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: They don't care that both McCain and Cruz were demonstrably born outside of the USA, and 15 years ago
would have supported an amendment that would have allowed Arnold Schwarzenegger to become president.

Screw them all.


I remember that Schwarzenegger talk.  It was all over the place and died quite quickly after he took office and started doing things.
 
2013-10-15 10:51:17 AM  

Relatively Obscure: DjangoStonereaver: They don't care that both McCain and Cruz were demonstrably born outside of the USA, and 15 years ago
would have supported an amendment that would have allowed Arnold Schwarzenegger to become president.

Screw them all.

I remember that Schwarzenegger talk.  It was all over the place and died quite quickly after he took office and started doing things.


The irony for me is that before he took office in CA, I was not at all in favor of such an amendment.

But when he showed that he was at least willing to deal in actual governance, rather than ideologically
driven demogoguery, I became a supporter of it in theory if it was crafted in such a way as to dovetail with
the existing Constitutional requirements for the presidency (specifically:  a person who was a naturalized
US citizen had to have been such for at least 35 years).
 
2013-10-15 11:55:44 AM  
Oh, this guy's getting my money.  Because FARK PAUL RYAN AND THE KOCH BROS.~!
 
2013-10-15 12:29:56 PM  
Is he the sickly sixth son of the slain Sikh?
 
2013-10-15 12:31:29 PM  

Rwa2play: Oh, this guy's getting my money.  Because FARK PAUL RYAN AND THE KOCH BROS.~!


This
 
2013-10-15 12:47:02 PM  
As much as I dislike Paul Ryan, I am not a big fan of people that feel the need to go around wearing special hats all the time.
 
2013-10-15 12:57:09 PM  
It would be nice if people could comprehend in general that Sikhs are not Muslims, and they have about as much in common as Mormons in Utah have in common with Orthodox Jews in New York City.
 
2013-10-15 01:01:59 PM  

comhcinc: As much as I dislike Paul Ryan, I am not a big fan of people that feel the need to go around wearing special hats all the time.


crasstalk.com
 
2013-10-15 01:06:52 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: comhcinc: As much as I dislike Paul Ryan, I am not a big fan of people that feel the need to go around wearing special hats all the time.

[crasstalk.com image 500x259]


And think about it. If he always looked like that he would never have gotten elected.


/I miss that laser background.
 
2013-10-15 01:20:40 PM  

comhcinc: As much as I dislike Paul Ryan, I am not a big fan of people that feel the need to go around wearing special hats all the time.


You'd think that folks would support someone who was deeply spiritual and honored their family and culture. Or does that not count when it's someone who isn't a Follower of the Book?
 
2013-10-15 01:23:33 PM  

comhcinc: As much as I dislike Paul Ryan, I am not a big fan of people that feel the need to go around wearing special hats all the time.


Where is this special hat you speak of?

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2013-10-15 01:32:32 PM  
I wish this guy luck in explaining that difference between being a Sikh and being a Muslin to americans.
 
2013-10-15 01:33:21 PM  

simplicimus: I wish this guy luck in explaining that difference between being a Sikh and being a Muslin to americans.


Or Muslim, too.
 
2013-10-15 01:38:52 PM  

simplicimus: simplicimus: I wish this guy luck in explaining that difference between being a Sikh and being a Muslin to americans.

Or Muslim, too.


You were right the first time.  Sikhs = half-breed muslins
 
2013-10-15 01:45:04 PM  
Could be an interesting race if he can get through the primary process and find some funding.

Ryan only won WI1 with 54.9% of the vote in 2012, and Rob Zerban pulled a respectable 43.4% of the vote.

Not invincible by any means, but Zerban is looking at running again, although no official announcement has been made, so it might be a long slog for this guy.
 
2013-10-15 01:49:44 PM  
I'd like to hear the average teahadist try to read "son of a slain Sikh cleric" aloud without screaming a Lee Greenwood song title halfway through.
 
2013-10-15 02:08:56 PM  
Well, Sikhs don't really have clerics, Submitter. A temple president would be of course an initiated member of the Khalsa, but really the "cleric" is the scripture, the Guru Granth Sahib. Its possible that the gurdwara president (of the board of directors, probably) is a granthi, a ritual reader of the scripture, but there really isn't a Sikh equivalent to the rabbi or the ulema, or a Hindu or Catholic priest. The scriptures is treated as the manifest body of the voice of God (Waheguru) in the world, like the Ten Personal Gurus that preceded the authority of the Guru Granth Sahib.
 
2013-10-15 02:18:21 PM  

Somacandra: Well, Sikhs don't really have clerics, Submitter.


Too bad. A cleric could exorcise whatever the hell is possessing Michelle Bachmann,
 
2013-10-15 02:22:14 PM  

Somacandra: Well, Sikhs don't really have clerics, Submitter.


Obviously...they use edged weapons

newsimg.bbc.co.uk
 
2013-10-15 02:29:31 PM  
oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please  oh please

I...  I might have to consider donating to a political campaign for the first time in my life.

/well, other than that check box on the income tax form, which I may have checked once or twice in 33 years of voting.
 
2013-10-15 02:30:40 PM  

Rwa2play: Oh, this guy's getting my money.  Because FARK PAUL RYAN AND THE KOCH BROS.~!


This. I'm ready to write out a check.
 
2013-10-15 02:32:11 PM  
Is there any chance he could win in that district?  Because that would set the frothing to Rabies levels.
 
2013-10-15 02:33:21 PM  

Somacandra: Well, Sikhs don't really have clerics, Submitter. A temple president would be of course an initiated member of the Khalsa, but really the "cleric" is the scripture, the Guru Granth Sahib. Its possible that the gurdwara president (of the board of directors, probably) is a granthi, a ritual reader of the scripture, but there really isn't a Sikh equivalent to the rabbi or the ulema, or a Hindu or Catholic priest. The scriptures is treated as the manifest body of the voice of God (Waheguru) in the world, like the Ten Personal Gurus that preceded the authority of the Guru Granth Sahib.


www.xaraxone.com
 
2013-10-15 02:34:48 PM  
Sympathy and cash donations poured in from around the globe following the Sikh temple shootings, and several federal officials expressed their condolences. First lady Michelle Obama visited the temple to comfort the families and Attorney General Eric Holder spoke at the funeral.

But President Barack Obama, who has visited sites of other mass shootings, never came. His absence bothered Kaleka, an Obama supporter who hoped the president's presence would help advance the cause of stronger gun regulation.


I can't imagine how devastating it must be to lose your father to senseless violence- especially galling to know that the subhuman monster attacked him because of his own ignorance of world religion- but I don't think I'd blame the POTUS for not showing up to the funeral.
 
2013-10-15 02:37:14 PM  
"Kaleka said he wants to bring accountability and transparency back to Washington."

I've heard that somewhere before... sounds really familiar...
 
2013-10-15 02:37:33 PM  
Dear America, please remember that Sikhs are not Muslims. Not that it should matter if a candidate is Muslim.
 
2013-10-15 02:41:56 PM  
I want to sponsor a Gurkha for US citizenship. That would be a Congressman that gets results.
 
2013-10-15 02:42:40 PM  
The only politician who could reach me, was the son of a slain Sikh guruman.
 
2013-10-15 02:44:32 PM  

simplicimus: simplicimus: I wish this guy luck in explaining that difference between being a Sikh and being a Muslin to americans.

Or Muslim, too.


iirc "Muslim" is just a corruption of the word "muslin".

CSB
 
2013-10-15 02:45:17 PM  

gnosis301: The only politician who could reach me, was the son of a slain Sikh guruman.


That's funny right there.
 
2013-10-15 02:45:38 PM  

simplicimus: I wish this guy luck in explaining that difference between being a Sikh and being a Muslin to americans.


I wish him luck in explaining to Paul Ryan voters that Wisconsin Sikhs and Muslims are Americans.
 
2013-10-15 02:46:47 PM  
Sikhrit Muslim?
 
2013-10-15 02:47:59 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: You were right the first time. Sikhs = half-breed muslins


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-15 02:48:16 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: comhcinc: As much as I dislike Paul Ryan, I am not a big fan of people that feel the need to go around wearing special hats all the time.

[crasstalk.com image 500x259]


Ya know, that pic of Ryan makes him look like every douchebag and dipshiat that made me stop going to the gym and buy my own weights. Who in his campaign thought putting that image out there was a good idea?
 
2013-10-15 02:49:10 PM  

HooskerDoo: simplicimus: simplicimus: I wish this guy luck in explaining that difference between being a Sikh and being a Muslin to americans.

Or Muslim, too.

iirc "Muslim" is just a corruption of the word "muslin".

CSB


YRIC. Muslim means "one who submits" in Arabic. It's related to Islam, "submit to the will
of God"
 
2013-10-15 02:50:38 PM  
Those are the same people who threw their support behind conservatives such as Jindal, Cruz, and Zimmerman.

They hate your candidate because his policy, not because of skin color most of the time.
 
2013-10-15 02:52:37 PM  
I hate to say it, but this guy doesn't have a chance in the Vortex of Derp that is the Milwaukee suburbs.
 
2013-10-15 02:55:00 PM  
Given how people thought the Indian woman who won Miss America was Arab, he's going to need a lot of luck.
 
2013-10-15 02:57:15 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Somacandra: Well, Sikhs don't really have clerics, Submitter.

Obviously...they use edged weapons

[newsimg.bbc.co.uk image 203x300]


Funny'd.
 
2013-10-15 02:57:38 PM  
There won't be much, if any, issue because of his ethnicity or religion.  Not a single person in the region thinks the crazed shooter did a good thing.

The guy will win or lose on his Democratic opinions, and how he stands up with due scrutiny.

/I heard he punts puppies into fires.
//Kidding--first I heard of him.
 
2013-10-15 02:58:43 PM  
Kaleka's father, Satwant Singh Kaleka, was a small-business owner who founded the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in suburban Milwaukee. On Aug. 5, 2012, a white supremacist walked into the temple and opened fire, killing Kaleka and five others before taking his own life. The FBI was unable to determine a motive.

I can determine a motive... People are stupid and can't tell the difference between a Muslim and a Sikh. Same thing happened in Mesa, AZ a day or two after 9/11. Some guy went around shooting people who wore things on their heads other than baseball caps and cowboy hats. Killed the nice guy who owned the car wash/ convenience store at the end of my father in law's street...
 
2013-10-15 03:02:53 PM  

comhcinc: As much as I dislike Paul Ryan, I am not a big fan of people that feel the need to go around wearing special hats all the time.


Really? That's your judging criteria? Headwear? Dude could wear a hollowed out watermelon with sparklers sticking out of it on his head, for all I care.

Really, it's an idiotic thing to judge someone on. It's actually why this guy's father is dead.
 
2013-10-15 03:03:00 PM  

comhcinc: As much as I dislike Paul Ryan, I am not a big fan of people that feel the need to go around wearing special hats all the time.


www.originalmmc.com

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Douchebags....every one of them.
 
2013-10-15 03:03:06 PM  
On Aug. 5, 2012, a white supremacist walked into the temple and opened fire, killing Kaleka and five others before taking his own life. The FBI was unable to determine a motive.

Really, a racist white supremacist open fires on a bunch of non-white's that wear turbans and you don't know the motive. Did Chief Wiggum join the FBI.
 
2013-10-15 03:07:53 PM  

whither_apophis: HooskerDoo: simplicimus: simplicimus: I wish this guy luck in explaining that difference between being a Sikh and being a Muslin to americans.

Or Muslim, too.

iirc "Muslim" is just a corruption of the word "muslin".

CSB

YRIC. Muslim means "one who submits" in Arabic. It's related to Islam, "submit to the will
of God"


AH-HA! You fell into my clever trap, you seekrit muslim!
 
2013-10-15 03:12:24 PM  
Sikhs are badass. Excellent peacekeepers, too. Read up on how they were used as policeman in India to help moderate a blood feud between Muslims and Christians.
 
2013-10-15 03:16:05 PM  
Sikh does not guarantee a non-white skin color.

/just saying


Hopefully, he can get support, I already support him, he's saying the right things. unfortunately, there are too many embarrased Klansman in our gov't to give support to good ideas because they are suggested by non-white U.S. politicians.
 
2013-10-15 03:17:00 PM  
They might say; Holy shiate (yes, I am insinuating they have no idea there is a difference between Sikhs and Muslims)
 
2013-10-15 03:19:37 PM  
Yeah, It's this muslim who will win the hearts and minds of the american people.
 
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