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(Talking Points Memo)   Senate GOP: Simmer down, we found a way out of this mess. House GOP: Well, then we'll just issue another counter offer with attacks on Obamacare then. HA   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 644
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2013-10-15 11:07:05 AM

Zasteva: Prophet of Loss: How about we start a no Democrats, no GOP movement next election season? Its time to give some other political parties a try.

What have the Democrats done to deserve that?


Both sides suck.  The difference is that the Democrats suck like eating a half-pound of sugar every day.  Eventually you will develop diabetes.  The Republicans suck like eating a teaspoon of arsenic.
 
2013-10-15 11:07:15 AM

Weaver95: Benevolent Misanthrope: Someone please tell me there will be consequences for this behavior.

Please?

Not for the baggers, no. They see a default as a victory.


To be fair, they're rapidly losing every major campaign contributor they have. So the consequence is the death of the Party.
 
2013-10-15 11:07:16 AM

JerseyTim: House GOP members sang "Amazing Grace" together to start their meeting on a debt limit deal this morning.- Chris Moody (@Chris_Moody) October 15, 2013


Good God,they are completely insane.
 
2013-10-15 11:07:19 AM

Kit Fister: Stop believing that because people thought the R candidates were worse, it equates to a referendum on ACA.


So you agree, then, that giving the GOP House wasn't a referendum to repeal it either.
 
2013-10-15 11:07:31 AM
Isn't the deadline to avoid a default today? WTF are they doing rejecting bipartisan deals at this stage?

Do they farking understand what happens if they overplay their (incredibly weak) hand?
 
2013-10-15 11:07:41 AM

Smeggy Smurf: They were elected to keep Fartbongo Death Panels from becoming a reality.  So far, they're doing a good job of it.


I would vote for death panels if only they applied to members of Congress.
 
2013-10-15 11:07:41 AM
Does this mean the Republicans don't want Uncle Sam to tax my rag on a stick? I've voting GOP next election. A rash-free, tax-free America!
 
2013-10-15 11:08:03 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Someone please tell me there will be consequences for this behavior.

Please?


There will be dramatic consequences. Just not for the people responsible.
 
2013-10-15 11:08:19 AM
OKAY, DERP IS COMING OUT
 
2013-10-15 11:08:45 AM

nekom: I want poor people to have better access to health insurance.  I was told that this makes me worse than Hitler.


I can't afford $60 copay to my primary physician and $5000/year deductible all for the cost of $175/month in premiums for Bronze level coverage.
 
2013-10-15 11:08:45 AM
Goddammit Boehner, just shut the fark up already.
 
2013-10-15 11:08:55 AM

JerseyTim: House GOP members sang "Amazing Grace" together to start their meeting on a debt limit deal this morning.- Chris Moody (@Chris_Moody) October 15, 2013


Oh FFS....

The problem with this whole thing is that it is impossible to reason with ideology. I'm sure we could dig up a number of pubs from 2001 stating this....
 
2013-10-15 11:08:56 AM
Calling the president "Fartbongo"... theres some real 2nd grade playground levels of insulting ... If you are going to do this... why not think of something better for my eyes to glance across?

/Just askin
 
2013-10-15 11:08:59 AM
No, and Fuc* you.
 
2013-10-15 11:09:09 AM

JerseyTim: House GOP members sang "Amazing Grace" together to start their meeting on a debt limit deal this morning.- Chris Moody (@Chris_Moody) October 15, 2013


Well, that's what you usually sing at a funeral.
 
2013-10-15 11:09:17 AM
Sent an email to Senator Warren.

I want to know who owns what stocks, and I want to know right now. Darrel Issa, Ted Cruz, Jim
DeMint, Eric Cantor, and I want Romney's too.

I want to know EXACTLY who is buying shorts right now, because I'll bet anything that's what it's all about.

Take a few million, buy a grip of shorts. Keep leaking news of a "deal" so the market will run up and be optimistic. Sell the profits on the few million you didn't use for short, then buy more shorts.

Step 3: profit, no matter which way this goes.
 
2013-10-15 11:09:27 AM

JerseyTim: House GOP members sang "Amazing Grace" together to start their meeting on a debt limit deal this morning.- Chris Moody (@Chris_Moody) October 15, 2013


i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-15 11:09:35 AM
The Aristocrats!
 
2013-10-15 11:10:00 AM

JerseyTim: House GOP members sang "Amazing Grace" together to start their meeting on a debt limit deal this morning.- Chris Moody (@Chris_Moody) October 15, 2013


"Nearer My God, To Thee" might have been more appropriate.
 
2013-10-15 11:10:00 AM

Beeblebrox: stovepipe: karmaceutical: James!: Finally their true goal of delaying the medical device tax reveals itself.  So glad they shut the government down over that shiat.

It is crazy.  This whole damn time, they were fighting for the medical device lobby.

Are these considered medical devices?

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If so, it's all starting to make sense to me.

1% of the time they are medical devices.  99% of the time they are lazy fat fark devices.


Can you imagine the blow to the economy if the people who had been handing them out for "free" had to pay tax on them?  Worse than the Great Depression and Weimar Republic!
 
2013-10-15 11:10:05 AM

George Babbitt: nekom: I want poor people to have better access to health insurance.  I was told that this makes me worse than Hitler.

I can't afford $60 copay to my primary physician and $5000/year deductible all for the cost of $175/month in premiums for Bronze level coverage.


Do you qualify for the tax credit? What about the minimum coverage (there is a cheaper plan than bronze).
 
2013-10-15 11:10:09 AM

Kit Fister: Stop believing that because people thought the R candidates were worse, it equates to a referendum on ACA.


^This
 
2013-10-15 11:10:10 AM

Prophet of Loss: How about we start a no Democrats, no GOP movement next election season? Its time to give some other political parties a try.


i459.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-15 11:10:15 AM
They've gone so far off the deep end that the group whose philosophy is "filibuster EVERYTHING" is the reasonable half of their party.
 
2013-10-15 11:10:22 AM
This default would not be happening if you stupid liberals would stop defaulting to a Democrat every time an election comes around.
 
2013-10-15 11:10:42 AM

JerseyTim: House GOP members sang "Amazing Grace" together to start their meeting on a debt limit deal this morning.- Chris Moody (@Chris_Moody) October 15, 2013


It really is a Holy War now, isn't it?
 
2013-10-15 11:11:03 AM
The GOP doesn't want to walk away from this fight empty-handed.
 
2013-10-15 11:11:08 AM

HammerMill: Please give me one example of a function that government has taken over and made it better, faster, or cheaper.


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2013-10-15 11:11:09 AM
I'm all for a 3rd party. Lets elect cats.
 
2013-10-15 11:11:09 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: Does this remind anyone else of the "Duck Season, Rabbit Season" Bugs Bunny?


i51.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-15 11:11:12 AM

Obama's Reptiloid Master: George Babbitt: nekom: I want poor people to have better access to health insurance.  I was told that this makes me worse than Hitler.

I can't afford $60 copay to my primary physician and $5000/year deductible all for the cost of $175/month in premiums for Bronze level coverage.

Do you qualify for the tax credit? What about the minimum coverage (there is a cheaper plan than bronze).


Considering how little the Bronze covers, I can't imagine what the minimum coverage manages...
 
2013-10-15 11:11:26 AM

George Babbitt: nekom: I want poor people to have better access to health insurance.  I was told that this makes me worse than Hitler.

I can't afford $60 copay to my primary physician and $5000/year deductible all for the cost of $175/month in premiums for Bronze level coverage.


Sweet Jesus, that's better than what my employer offers.

God I hate this place.
 
2013-10-15 11:11:30 AM
We are really going off this cliff aren't we? Money buried in the backyard is going to start looking like a good idea...

Hope there is a food kitchen app.
 
2013-10-15 11:11:35 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Someone please tell me there will be consequences for this behavior.

Please?


Of course there will -- but for all of us, and not until its too late to avoid.  ...but as for the tea-baggers who created the mess, they'll be affected just like everyone else, but rather than admit their folly, they'll just sit in their burning house and make this expression:

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...because hey, who cares if we tank the entire f-ing economy as long as it preserves my God-given right to avoid insurance, then go to the ER when I hurt myself and pin the costs on the hospital.
 
2013-10-15 11:11:36 AM

Kit Fister: Heliovdrake: The US government is not in the business of negotiating with extortionists.

The ACA WAS a compromise. It was voted into law by congress.

The people supported it in not ONE but TWO National Elections where it was a major issue each time.

The Supreme court upheld its legality.

The GOP failed to repeal it 42+ times.

And now the GoP and Its Teahadist wing are going to crash not only our economy, but potentially the world's.

The Adults on the world stage know this, the adults in the US know this. Even the GOP knows this, by how hard they are trying to pin it on the democrat party and the President,

YOU LOST.YOU GET NOTHING.ITS RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE, CLEAR AS CRYSTAL!YOU LOSE!GOOD DAY SIR.

You do realize that assuming that by voting against Romney and for Obama, that's just a statement of "fark romney", and not necessarily a referendum on ACA or anything, right? I voted for Obama because i hated romney. I also hate the ACA because it's a garbage law that doesn't do much to help the situation other than add in new taxes and force insurance companies to take on more people/risk.

So, while the alternative to the ACA is shiattier, if I had my druthers, the ACA would be replaced with comprehensive regulation and price controls for life-saving equipment, medicine, and most care, a basic national plan which private insurers can supplement to add benefit (better coverage for more stuff than the national plan, etc.), and continue to make costs of insurance tax deductible.

Stop believing that because people thought the R candidates were worse, it equates to a referendum on ACA.


The GOP made the election a referendum on the ACA and on Obama's policies in general. Didn't pan out.
 
2013-10-15 11:11:43 AM
Can anybody spare a cherry wood coffin to bury me in? End of the road folks  Just kidding I can't die
 
2013-10-15 11:11:52 AM

HammerMill: Please give me one example of a function that government has taken over and made it better, faster, or cheaper.

There are none.  While in principal the ACA is full of rainbows and sunshine for everyone, in practice it will be is a mess.


It is apparent that a lot more happens in this country than you are aware of.

2/10
 
2013-10-15 11:12:11 AM
If some of the reporting is right, and the House is going to pass this piece of shiat and then skip down, we are well and truly farked.
 
2013-10-15 11:12:25 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Someone please tell me there will be consequences for this behavior.

Please?


Check your next 401k statement. Consequences will indeed be felt.
 
2013-10-15 11:12:25 AM

George Babbitt: Considering how little the Bronze covers, I can't imagine what the minimum coverage manages...


Bronze is  better coverage than my employer offers.  What are you whining about?
 
2013-10-15 11:12:34 AM

George Babbitt: Kit Fister: Stop believing that because people thought the R candidates were worse, it equates to a referendum on ACA.

^This


Oh Jesus Christ. You people can rationalize anything.

"It's not that people voted for Obama even though he continues to have high poll numbers and be quite popular. It's just that they thought the last crop of RINOs was worse! I know, let's veer even harder to the right! That's what the American people, especially those slutty women and lazy ethnic minorities think!"
 
2013-10-15 11:12:51 AM

QueenMamaBee: George Babbitt: nekom: I want poor people to have better access to health insurance.  I was told that this makes me worse than Hitler.

I can't afford $60 copay to my primary physician and $5000/year deductible all for the cost of $175/month in premiums for Bronze level coverage.

Sweet Jesus, that's better than what my employer offers.

God I hate this place.


Maybe it's time for a walk-out at your Golden Arches location.
 
2013-10-15 11:12:53 AM

Krymson Tyde: Goddammit Boehner, just shut the fark up already.


No shiat.  The Constitution says spending bills need to originate in the House.  Boner doesn't want to commit to anything so he make the Senate submit their proposals first.  Once the Senate makes the proposal with a concession he pushes it just a little more.
 
2013-10-15 11:12:56 AM

HammerMill: Please give me one example of a function that government has taken over and made it better, faster, or cheaper.

There are none.  While in principal the ACA is full of rainbows and sunshine for everyone, in practice it will be is a mess.


Medicare. VA Hospitals.

There's two that operate cheaper and more efficiently than the private sector.
 
2013-10-15 11:13:03 AM

Nadie_AZ: Jan. 15, 2014 and raise the debt limit until Feb. 7 or 8 of next year.


So we do this all over again in 3 months?

How about NO.


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Obama


www.lssproducts.com


Tea Tards

 
2013-10-15 11:13:05 AM

JerseyTim: House GOP members sang "Amazing Grace" together to start their meeting on a debt limit deal this morning.- Chris Moody (@Chris_Moody) October 15, 2013


And not a single wretch was saved that day.
 
2013-10-15 11:13:08 AM

you are a puppet: Prophet of Loss: How about we start a no Democrats, no GOP movement next election season? Its time to give some other political parties a try.

Yeah I'm sure Libertarian/Green will work out much better. The parties have come to an agreement: 9/11 was an inside job!


Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why we have no centrist party?
 
2013-10-15 11:13:10 AM
Can't use the "This is Obama's shutdown" talkingpoint anymore.

Can't use the "Obama refuses to even come to the negotiation table" talkingpoint anymore.

All they're left with is their base motivations from Day 1:  "Gimme what I want, or I shoot the hostage".
 
2013-10-15 11:13:10 AM

netweavr: Weaver95: Benevolent Misanthrope: Someone please tell me there will be consequences for this behavior.

Please?

Not for the baggers, no. They see a default as a victory.

To be fair, they're rapidly losing every major campaign contributor they have. So the consequence is the death of the Party.


Gods I hope so...this thing is a gotdamn mess.
 
2013-10-15 11:13:29 AM

Mike_LowELL: This default would not be happening if you stupid liberals would stop defaulting to a Democrat every time an election comes around.


This is so true.
 
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