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2013-10-15 11:23:38 AM
3 votes:
The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???
2013-10-15 12:15:55 PM
2 votes:

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Massively Multiplayer Addict: Are they really demolishing it just because a gunman went on a rampage there and put some bullet holes in the walls? Or did it need to be replaced anyway?

The school was built sometime in the fifties or sixties, if I remember right. I don't know the usual timetable on replacing schools, but after fifty or sixty years it was probably due for an upgrade anyways.


An upgrade from brick mortar and steel to carbon fiber?

I live in a 200 year old stone house.

We have granite countertops, copper plumbing and central air/heat.

We didn't have to tear down the building to upgrade.

We even have 'lectricity and the interweb wired in every room.

Are you a lobbyist for the school construction corporation?

Or maybe one of those people who leases a new car every 2 years, buys a new cell phone every other month.......
2013-10-15 12:00:00 PM
2 votes:

Clemkadidlefark: A strong people, a people strong in heart, mind and spirit do not Memorialize grief. They pass through it, piss on the headstone of what caused the grief and - to use a favorite phrase of grief-mongers - move on. Instead of getting over it and moving on, they never let a good crisis go to waste.


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I seem to remember a fuss earlier this week, about people unwilling to get over their grief being allowed access to memorial the second picture.
2013-10-15 03:47:19 PM
1 votes:
We shoulda torn it down too?


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2013-10-15 01:12:36 PM
1 votes:

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: They did that too. My issue was with "strong people do not memorialize grief." If you're making the argument that New York isn't strong, then go right ahead


NYC is a police state, run by a billionaire who is a vocal advocate and defender of racial-profiling.  NYC can't handle people demonstrating against Wall Street without turning into a banana republic and abusing protestors.  It's a plutocracy, kept in check by corrupt bureaucrats and unions in the pockets of the financial sector, while the masses are distracted by freak shows and bright lights.  It is America, summed up quite nicely.

I refuse to call that strong.
2013-10-15 01:02:18 PM
1 votes:

hailin: Thank you. I so wanted them to rebuild the towers. As it is, it just shows the terrorists they've one as we are too scared to defy them.


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They did that too. My issue was with "strong people do not memorialize grief." If you're making the argument that New York isn't strong, then go right ahead, but we memorialize grief all the time, from the waterfalls of 9/11 to the gravestone for your deceased grandfather.
2013-10-15 01:01:58 PM
1 votes:

Dwight_Yeast: groppet: So now every bad place needs to be demolished?

And it does seem stupid just to rebuild it on the same spot.

To keep them from becoming ghoulish tourist attractions?  Yes.


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Oh we wouldn't want to do that! That'd just be in poor taste.
2013-10-15 12:19:07 PM
1 votes:

Giltric: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Massively Multiplayer Addict: Are they really demolishing it just because a gunman went on a rampage there and put some bullet holes in the walls? Or did it need to be replaced anyway?

The school was built sometime in the fifties or sixties, if I remember right. I don't know the usual timetable on replacing schools, but after fifty or sixty years it was probably due for an upgrade anyways.

An upgrade from brick mortar and steel to carbon fiber?

I live in a 200 year old stone house.

We have granite countertops, copper plumbing and central air/heat.

We didn't have to tear down the building to upgrade.

We even have 'lectricity and the interweb wired in every room.

Are you a lobbyist for the school construction corporation?

Or maybe one of those people who leases a new car every 2 years, buys a new cell phone every other month.......



If the school was built in 1960, then it probably wasn't built to the same standards and with the same durable materials as a stone home built 200 years ago.
2013-10-15 12:09:12 PM
1 votes:

Mega Steve: Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???

It's the only way to get all the pesky ghosts to leave


Silly, the ghosts are attached to the ground. Not the structure.

They are like mineral rights.
2013-10-15 12:08:35 PM
1 votes:

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???

Because the kids, teachers, parents, community, and state felt it was an investment worth making in order to lessen the pain they would feel everyday at the same school, walking the same hallways and classrooms where a tragedy took place?


In Israel they'd wipe up the blood and patch the holes and you wouldn't know something had happened three days later.
2013-10-15 12:08:23 PM
1 votes:

Massively Multiplayer Addict: Are they really demolishing it just because a gunman went on a rampage there and put some bullet holes in the walls? Or did it need to be replaced anyway?


The school was built sometime in the fifties or sixties, if I remember right. I don't know the usual timetable on replacing schools, but after fifty or sixty years it was probably due for an upgrade anyways.
2013-10-15 12:07:37 PM
1 votes:
The old school no longer met modern building code standards.  Fixing the existing school would be just as expensive, because they would be bound to those new standards.  Making it into low cost housing would meet the same issue.

Before you bring in 'they didn't tear down Columbine!!!' they did gut out the entire library area and make it a memorial instead.
2013-10-15 12:03:39 PM
1 votes:
The secrecy is because they're not really demolishing it -- just redecorating:

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2013-10-15 11:57:11 AM
1 votes:

TofuTheAlmighty: If they got the money to build a new school, so what if they demolish the old one.


Because that money was put up by the state, ie; the 3.5+ million other people in the state that had no connection to the school whatsoever?  Because other than "bad memories", there was no reason to demolish a perfectly sound structure that had many years of usable life left in it?
2013-10-15 11:55:33 AM
1 votes:
Next up: The school district begging they need more money (and a tax increase) because of budget shortfalls.
2013-10-15 11:54:05 AM
1 votes:
Turn it into low income apartments for the disabled. Retrofitted schools make great buildings for gimps.

This is just wasteful.

You are supposed to overcome tragedy. Not let it consume you to the point of irrationality.

Oh wait... I forgot. This is "BOMB THE F*CK OUT OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE SOME GUYS CRASHED PLANES INTO A BUILDING!!!11onezorzzz" America.

Carry on.
2013-10-15 11:54:01 AM
1 votes:
I've never understood why some people are uncomfortable being someplace where someone died or was killed. It's like people who wont live in a house where someone died, it's just silly. Pick any building older than 20 years or so and the odds are pretty good that someone has died in it.
2013-10-15 11:53:00 AM
1 votes:

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: groppet: So now every bad place needs to be demolished?

And it does seem stupid just to rebuild it on the same spot.

If your family was brutally murdered in your car, would you get a new car or just rip out the carpet and wipe down the windows?


The Titanic sank and killed 1500-some odd people....Should we drain the Atlantic ocean out of respect for their memory and to help us get over our grief?
2013-10-15 11:51:30 AM
1 votes:

Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???


1. Cronyism
2. Expanded opportunities for graft
3. Union jobs
4. Opportunity to  cement grief instead of get over it

A strong people, a people strong in heart, mind and spirit do not Memorialize grief. They pass through it, piss on the headstone of what caused the grief and - to use a favorite phrase of grief-mongers - move on. Instead of getting over it and moving on, they  never let a good crisis go to waste.

Should not be building a new school. If this were a real and proven technique, we'd be emptying out Chicago five times a week and starting over with a new city.
2013-10-15 11:49:59 AM
1 votes:

GET. OVER. IT. .

This happens every gatdinged day in every country in the world. It happens all over the planet. You are not special.  You are human. Act like it.

Good Grief, indeed.
2013-10-15 11:49:13 AM
1 votes:

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???

Because the kids, teachers, parents, community, and state felt it was an investment worth making in order to lessen the pain they would feel everyday at the same school, walking the same hallways and classrooms where a tragedy took place?


Oh it's been long enough...time to get over it..
2013-10-15 11:48:38 AM
1 votes:

Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???


Oh so much THIS!!!
2013-10-15 11:48:03 AM
1 votes:
So now every bad place needs to be demolished?

And it does seem stupid just to rebuild it on the same spot.
 
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