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2013-10-15 11:23:38 AM
The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???
 
2013-10-15 11:46:45 AM

Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???


It's the only way to get all the pesky ghosts to leave
 
2013-10-15 11:47:13 AM

Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???


The public school system is, among other things, a racket for the real estate business.

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2013-10-15 11:47:49 AM

Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???


Because the kids, teachers, parents, community, and state felt it was an investment worth making in order to lessen the pain they would feel everyday at the same school, walking the same hallways and classrooms where a tragedy took place?
 
2013-10-15 11:48:03 AM
So now every bad place needs to be demolished?

And it does seem stupid just to rebuild it on the same spot.
 
2013-10-15 11:48:38 AM

Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???


Oh so much THIS!!!
 
2013-10-15 11:48:39 AM
Did something bad happen there?


/dnrtfa
 
2013-10-15 11:49:13 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???

Because the kids, teachers, parents, community, and state felt it was an investment worth making in order to lessen the pain they would feel everyday at the same school, walking the same hallways and classrooms where a tragedy took place?


Oh it's been long enough...time to get over it..
 
2013-10-15 11:49:59 AM

GET. OVER. IT. .

This happens every gatdinged day in every country in the world. It happens all over the planet. You are not special.  You are human. Act like it.

Good Grief, indeed.
 
2013-10-15 11:50:02 AM

groppet: So now every bad place needs to be demolished?

And it does seem stupid just to rebuild it on the same spot.


If your family was brutally murdered in your car, would you get a new car or just rip out the carpet and wipe down the windows?
 
2013-10-15 11:51:27 AM
Sad to think how much intrusion and exploitation they've already faced that they feel these extraordinary measures are necessary.
 
2013-10-15 11:51:30 AM

Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???


1. Cronyism
2. Expanded opportunities for graft
3. Union jobs
4. Opportunity to  cement grief instead of get over it

A strong people, a people strong in heart, mind and spirit do not Memorialize grief. They pass through it, piss on the headstone of what caused the grief and - to use a favorite phrase of grief-mongers - move on. Instead of getting over it and moving on, they  never let a good crisis go to waste.

Should not be building a new school. If this were a real and proven technique, we'd be emptying out Chicago five times a week and starting over with a new city.
 
2013-10-15 11:52:02 AM
It won't be long before the Alex Jones types show up to complain about how this is evidence that the shooting was a "false flag," and that this action is clear proof that "something" is being hidden.
 
2013-10-15 11:52:05 AM
It's bad cover story for truth that spirits sucked the building into hell.

/wake up sheeple!
 
2013-10-15 11:52:54 AM

groppet: So now every bad place needs to be demolished?

And it does seem stupid just to rebuild it on the same spot.


Perhaps they can try this with MetLife (Giant's) Stadium too?
 
2013-10-15 11:53:00 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: groppet: So now every bad place needs to be demolished?

And it does seem stupid just to rebuild it on the same spot.

If your family was brutally murdered in your car, would you get a new car or just rip out the carpet and wipe down the windows?


The Titanic sank and killed 1500-some odd people....Should we drain the Atlantic ocean out of respect for their memory and to help us get over our grief?
 
2013-10-15 11:53:02 AM
If they got the money to build a new school, so what if they demolish the old one.
 
2013-10-15 11:53:33 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: groppet: So now every bad place needs to be demolished?

And it does seem stupid just to rebuild it on the same spot.

If your family was brutally murdered in your car, would you get a new car or just rip out the carpet and wipe down the windows?


What kind of car are we talking about?

/love my Civic
 
2013-10-15 11:54:01 AM
I've never understood why some people are uncomfortable being someplace where someone died or was killed. It's like people who wont live in a house where someone died, it's just silly. Pick any building older than 20 years or so and the odds are pretty good that someone has died in it.
 
2013-10-15 11:54:05 AM
Turn it into low income apartments for the disabled. Retrofitted schools make great buildings for gimps.

This is just wasteful.

You are supposed to overcome tragedy. Not let it consume you to the point of irrationality.

Oh wait... I forgot. This is "BOMB THE F*CK OUT OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE SOME GUYS CRASHED PLANES INTO A BUILDING!!!11onezorzzz" America.

Carry on.
 
2013-10-15 11:55:33 AM
Next up: The school district begging they need more money (and a tax increase) because of budget shortfalls.
 
2013-10-15 11:55:41 AM
How dare people decide to deal with grief in a way I don't approve of!

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2013-10-15 11:56:32 AM

chevydeuce: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: groppet: So now every bad place needs to be demolished?

And it does seem stupid just to rebuild it on the same spot.

If your family was brutally murdered in your car, would you get a new car or just rip out the carpet and wipe down the windows?

The Titanic sank and killed 1500-some odd people....Should we drain the Atlantic ocean out of respect for their memory and to help us get over our grief?


That comparison should be taken out back and shot.

/poor word choice on my part given the article subject, I know
//I stand by it anyhow
 
2013-10-15 11:57:11 AM

TofuTheAlmighty: If they got the money to build a new school, so what if they demolish the old one.


Because that money was put up by the state, ie; the 3.5+ million other people in the state that had no connection to the school whatsoever?  Because other than "bad memories", there was no reason to demolish a perfectly sound structure that had many years of usable life left in it?
 
2013-10-15 11:59:15 AM

Queensowntalia: How dare people decide to deal with grief in a way I don't approve of!

thisisanoutrage.jpg.


How dare you criticize the way people choose to criticize the people who deal with grief in a way they don't approve!
 
2013-10-15 12:00:00 PM

Clemkadidlefark: A strong people, a people strong in heart, mind and spirit do not Memorialize grief. They pass through it, piss on the headstone of what caused the grief and - to use a favorite phrase of grief-mongers - move on. Instead of getting over it and moving on, they never let a good crisis go to waste.


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I seem to remember a fuss earlier this week, about people unwilling to get over their grief being allowed access to memorial the second picture.
 
2013-10-15 12:00:59 PM

Mega Steve: It's the only way to get all the pesky ghosts to leave redouble their haunting.


Gonna be ghosts all over that school.
 
2013-10-15 12:03:39 PM
The secrecy is because they're not really demolishing it -- just redecorating:

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2013-10-15 12:04:43 PM
Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque:If your family was brutally murdered in your car, would you get a new car or just rip out the carpet and wipe down the windows?

You'd sell the car, not trash it and buy a brand new one. And a public school is not a monument to your private tragedy no matter how horrible. It's a building paid for by taxpayers. If there had been a vote on the demolition it'd be different.

This is the equivalent of having a kid drown in a swimming pool, filling it in with dirt, and then paying to have the dirt removed. Somehow everything is better?
 
2013-10-15 12:05:13 PM

69gnarkill69: How dare you criticize the way people choose to criticize the people who deal with grief in a way they don't approve!


www.secretsofthefed.com
 
2013-10-15 12:05:33 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: groppet: So now every bad place needs to be demolished?

And it does seem stupid just to rebuild it on the same spot.

If your family was brutally murdered in your car, would you get a new car or just rip out the carpet and wipe down the windows?


Depends on how much I still owed.
 
2013-10-15 12:05:40 PM
Are they really demolishing it just because a gunman went on a rampage there and put some bullet holes in the walls? Or did it need to be replaced anyway?
 
2013-10-15 12:07:37 PM
The old school no longer met modern building code standards.  Fixing the existing school would be just as expensive, because they would be bound to those new standards.  Making it into low cost housing would meet the same issue.

Before you bring in 'they didn't tear down Columbine!!!' they did gut out the entire library area and make it a memorial instead.
 
2013-10-15 12:07:42 PM
It happened at a school in Newtown. Therefore, all schools in that town should be demolished.
In fact, demolish the whole town.
 
2013-10-15 12:08:23 PM

Massively Multiplayer Addict: Are they really demolishing it just because a gunman went on a rampage there and put some bullet holes in the walls? Or did it need to be replaced anyway?


The school was built sometime in the fifties or sixties, if I remember right. I don't know the usual timetable on replacing schools, but after fifty or sixty years it was probably due for an upgrade anyways.
 
2013-10-15 12:08:35 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???

Because the kids, teachers, parents, community, and state felt it was an investment worth making in order to lessen the pain they would feel everyday at the same school, walking the same hallways and classrooms where a tragedy took place?


In Israel they'd wipe up the blood and patch the holes and you wouldn't know something had happened three days later.
 
2013-10-15 12:08:55 PM

Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???


Maybe it was an old school, and they were going to slate it for replacement anyway, but this way, they get some sympathy dollars from the state.
 
2013-10-15 12:08:57 PM

doubled99: It happened at a school in Newtown. Therefore, all schools in that town should be demolished.
In fact, demolish the whole town.


i59.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-15 12:09:12 PM

Mega Steve: Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???

It's the only way to get all the pesky ghosts to leave


Silly, the ghosts are attached to the ground. Not the structure.

They are like mineral rights.
 
2013-10-15 12:09:17 PM

Queensowntalia: How dare people decide to deal with grief in a way I don't approve of!

thisisanoutrage.jpg.


Americans getting all collectively irrational with grief put half a million people into their graves in just the past decade. Your appeal to privacy would probably have carried more weight before that.
 
2013-10-15 12:10:34 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???

Because the kids, teachers, parents, community, and state felt it was an investment worth making in order to lessen the pain they would feel everyday at the same school, walking the same hallways and classrooms where a tragedy took place?


Maybe remembering is the best way to forget...
 
2013-10-15 12:11:07 PM
Of course they want NDAs and no pictures.  That's the only way to ensure that the public won't learn the truth about what happened in the building.

/false flag
 
2013-10-15 12:11:34 PM

KhamanV: The old school no longer met modern building code standards.  Fixing the existing school would be just as expensive, because they would be bound to those new standards.  Making it into low cost housing would meet the same issue.

Before you bring in 'they didn't tear down Columbine!!!' they did gut out the entire library area and make it a memorial instead.


Now THAT makes slightly more sense.
 
2013-10-15 12:12:56 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: If your family was brutally murdered in your car,


If my family was brutally murdered in my car, I was probably the one who did it and I'd be trying to destroy the evidence. Your point isn't completely lost, though...

Tearing down the whole building seems a bit extreme, though. There's a lot you can do to freshen up the place that aren't as drastic.
=Smidge=
 
GBB
2013-10-15 12:12:59 PM

SpectroBoy: Mega Steve: Walker: The whole thing is stupid. If they were going to demolish and build a park there or something, OK, I understand you don't want a school there anymore after what happened. But what's the point of spending $49 million to demolish the school, just to rebuild the school in the exact same spot???

It's the only way to get all the pesky ghosts to leave

Silly, the ghosts are attached to the ground. Not the structure.

They are like mineral rights.


Mineral Spirits?
 
2013-10-15 12:13:01 PM

groppet: So now every bad place needs to be demolished?

And it does seem stupid just to rebuild it on the same spot.




Well... Yes and no.

I get that parents wouldn't want to send their kids to the same school. I also get that some kind of observance should be made. It would make sense to rebuild the school (you still need one), but to build something better maybe.
Design something less prone to these attacks, since the risk of a copycat can't be ruled out. Maybe design something that rethinks how we do child education or mental health, to avoid future lanza's.

It's an opportunity for community rebirth rather than simple waste.
A building can say a lot about the people who paid for it.
 
2013-10-15 12:13:50 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Clemkadidlefark: A strong people, a people strong in heart, mind and spirit do not Memorialize grief. They pass through it, piss on the headstone of what caused the grief and - to use a favorite phrase of grief-mongers - move on. Instead of getting over it and moving on, they never let a good crisis go to waste.

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I seem to remember a fuss earlier this week, about people unwilling to get over their grief being allowed access to memorial the second picture.


You should choose your pictures more carefully.  The first one is actually pretty damned symbolic of what  Clemkadidlefark was trying to say.  Instead of having a couple of wet holes in the farking ground, we should have rebuilt the towers to look visually identical to the ones destroyed, but of course with the improvements necessary to bring them up to modern standards, and to have the names of those who died in each building engraved on plaques at the base of the individual towers.

That would have been the biggest "Fark *YOU*!" to those who destroyed them in the first place.
 
2013-10-15 12:15:13 PM
The structure was from the 60s. Time to build a new one anyway. New school might be a few years early, but its not like they're tearing down a brand new structure.
 
2013-10-15 12:15:43 PM
Couldn't they just sell a commemorative coin instead?
 
2013-10-15 12:15:55 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Massively Multiplayer Addict: Are they really demolishing it just because a gunman went on a rampage there and put some bullet holes in the walls? Or did it need to be replaced anyway?

The school was built sometime in the fifties or sixties, if I remember right. I don't know the usual timetable on replacing schools, but after fifty or sixty years it was probably due for an upgrade anyways.


An upgrade from brick mortar and steel to carbon fiber?

I live in a 200 year old stone house.

We have granite countertops, copper plumbing and central air/heat.

We didn't have to tear down the building to upgrade.

We even have 'lectricity and the interweb wired in every room.

Are you a lobbyist for the school construction corporation?

Or maybe one of those people who leases a new car every 2 years, buys a new cell phone every other month.......
 
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