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(Hot Air)   Warning: There are many fake Obamacare websites out there trying to scam you out of your personal info. You can tell it's a fake if the website actually works   (hotair.com) divider line 75
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2013-10-15 12:32:36 PM  
Par for the course for hackers, but I'm sure this is somehow another reason Obamacare is bad.
 
2013-10-15 12:33:47 PM  

ManateeGag: Par for the course for hackers, but I'm sure this is somehow another reason Obamacare is bad.


Hot Air article, so you can guess.
 
2013-10-15 12:50:21 PM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-10-15 01:37:00 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-10-15 01:57:29 PM  
Well done, subby.
 
2013-10-15 02:27:18 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-10-15 02:32:24 PM  
Democrats should just say the reason the sites aren't working well is because of the republican shutdown.
 
2013-10-15 02:32:48 PM  
As a devoted liberal, I've been offering a service for protection from Obamacare scammers, free of charge.

I can sign you up as well.  Either post here or email me your name, DOB, SSN, and one valid credit card number and billing address for proof of identification purposes.  A scan of a driver's license or other photo ID is helpful and speeds up the process, but not necessary.
 
2013-10-15 02:34:26 PM  

ManateeGag: Par for the course for hackers, but I'm sure this is somehow another reason Obamacare is bad.


It's Hot Air. The reasons probably incude Benghazi or WWII vets being attacked at the Lincoln memorial.
 
2013-10-15 02:34:43 PM  
Out yourself, subby, so we can all know Jay Leno's Fark handle.
 
2013-10-15 02:39:50 PM  
I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are Republicans, attempting to cause more trouble. They have been known to do this kind of thing.
 
2013-10-15 02:40:16 PM  
Just like all the those phishing with bank websites in your email?

CAPITALISM BAD!
 
2013-10-15 02:42:06 PM  

Headso: Democrats should just say the reason the sites aren't working well is because of the republican shutdown.


Of course.  The point was to not only defund it but prove that it didn't work as reason to defund it.

Wily, these Republicans are.

//and also assholes.
 
2013-10-15 02:43:22 PM  
I chuckle'd.

Also, is the website still down or is the signup a-ok now?
 
2013-10-15 02:50:34 PM  

coeyagi: Just like all the those phishing with bank websites in your email?  CAPITALISM BAD!


If anything, this proves that the Obamacare website is legit.  It would be weird if there weren't any phishing attempts.
 
2013-10-15 02:51:59 PM  
ManateeGag:
Par for the course for hackers, but I'm sure this is somehow another reason Obamacare is bad.

Apparently, when they were rushing this debacle to release, they sorta forgot some security.

They leave open cookies on your computer, for example, which makes it a lot easier for the bad guys to get your O-Care login info.

They also completely omitted some external site verification work, and didn't bother with things like login lockouts after a certain number of failed login attempts.

Here's the fun part: If someone gets access to the badly-programmed Obamacare main servers, they also get free access to the Federal Data Services Hub, which allows full access to your IRS and Social Security records.

On a final note: After seeing how completely inept the HTML and JavaScript work was on the main site, you think they managed their internal site security worth a damn? There's probably an admin account with "GOD" as the password lurking in there...
 
2013-10-15 02:53:44 PM  

cirby: ManateeGag:
Par for the course for hackers, but I'm sure this is somehow another reason Obamacare is bad.

Apparently, when they were rushing this debacle to release, they sorta forgot some security.

They leave open cookies on your computer, for example, which makes it a lot easier for the bad guys to get your O-Care login info.

They also completely omitted some external site verification work, and didn't bother with things like login lockouts after a certain number of failed login attempts.

Here's the fun part: If someone gets access to the badly-programmed Obamacare main servers, they also get free access to the Federal Data Services Hub, which allows full access to your IRS and Social Security records.

On a final note: After seeing how completely inept the HTML and JavaScript work was on the main site, you think they managed their internal site security worth a damn? There's probably an admin account with "GOD" as the password lurking in there...


If any of this is true, it's because of private contractors and therefore a flaw of capitalism.
 
2013-10-15 02:58:46 PM  

super_grass: If any of this is true, it's because of private contractors and therefore a flaw of capitalism


That seems like a good blow off kinda response to some teabagger wanting to end Obamacare because the site is farked up. Are people supposed to give some kind of well thought out response to the teabaggers? I mean come on, look where the article goes to.
 
2013-10-15 02:58:47 PM  
Whatever you do, dont click on healthcare.gov...its the worst scam of all !!
 
2013-10-15 02:58:48 PM  

red5ish: I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are Republicans, attempting to cause more trouble. They have been known to do this kind of thing.


Nah, the RNC has no idea how the internet works.
 
2013-10-15 03:04:45 PM  
...No capitalism
...No FARK


...Capitalism GOOD
 
2013-10-15 03:06:16 PM  

Great_Milenko: red5ish: I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are Republicans, attempting to cause more trouble. They have been known to do this kind of thing.

Nah, the RNC has no idea how the internet works.


Apparently, neither does the Obama administration...
 
2013-10-15 03:06:53 PM  

red5ish: I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are Republicans, attempting to cause more trouble. They have been known to do this kind of thing.


images.sodahead.com
 
2013-10-15 03:08:09 PM  

dittybopper: Great_Milenko: red5ish: I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are Republicans, attempting to cause more trouble. They have been known to do this kind of thing.

Nah, the RNC has no idea how the internet works.

Apparently, neither does the Obama administration...


Just curious, does the Administration including the guy hired by the guy hired by the guy hired by the guy hired by Obama?
 
2013-10-15 03:11:14 PM  
I live in Oklahoma and today I finally decided to try and login to find coverage.  I'm self employed, but get coverage thru my wife's job so I'm not looking because I have to, but because i'd like to know my options.

My first time trying to login I used google chrome and the website would not work at all full stop.

Next I used to regular Internet explorer and everything worked just fine. It took me about 30-40 minutes to fill everything out, the whole application and everything.

Right now my application status is "In Progress."  I did the little online chat window to ask when I would be getting coverage prices and options and they said my application will be processed soon and they will send me an email.

Pretty farking simple really
 
2013-10-15 03:11:58 PM  
I know I got the website right because they be sending me a free obamaphone.
 
2013-10-15 03:12:27 PM  

Headso: Democrats should just say the reason the sites aren't working well is because of the republican shutdown.


The more subtle version, which I have seen, is "the sites aren't working well because they were contracted out to private firms". Not everything can be spun as anti-Republican, but if that fails, it can always be spun as pro-big-government.

/my own spin is "it's a huge system designed to serve tens of millions of end users and interface with dozens of disparate partners whose core competency isn't technology, with little opportunity for advance testing; it's a wonder it worked at all on release".
 
2013-10-15 03:14:54 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: red5ish: I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are Republicans, attempting to cause more trouble. They have been known to do this kind of thing.

[images.sodahead.com image 350x239]


I'm old enough to remember Dick Nixon's dirty tricks.
 
2013-10-15 03:15:50 PM  

cirby: Apparently, when they were rushing this debacle to release, they sorta forgot some security.

They leave open cookies on your computer, for example, which makes it a lot easier for the bad guys to get your O-Care login info.

They also completely omitted some external site verification work, and didn't bother with things like login lockouts after a certain number of failed login attempts.

 
Meh, those are typically overblown concerns that security contractors use to make it look like they're doing something.  If the hacker's reading your cookies you're in trouble for a million other reasons.

Most people aren't going to log in to their Obamacare account frequently enough to remember what obscure complexity rules it had within 3 guesses.

The lockout thing is to prevent a brute force attack on your account.  Time delays (like those inherent into the web site's bad design) are just as good of a way to deal with that.
 
2013-10-15 03:16:27 PM  

JolobinSmokin: I live in Oklahoma and today I finally decided to try and login to find coverage.  I'm self employed, but get coverage thru my wife's job so I'm not looking because I have to, but because i'd like to know my options.

My first time trying to login I used google chrome and the website would not work at all full stop.

Next I used to regular Internet explorer and everything worked just fine. It took me about 30-40 minutes to fill everything out, the whole application and everything.

Right now my application status is "In Progress."  I did the little online chat window to ask when I would be getting coverage prices and options and they said my application will be processed soon and they will send me an email.

Pretty farking simple really


I dunno, asking someone to use internet explorer seems like cruel and unusual punishment to me... Therefore, Obamacare is unconstitutional and Sarah Palin is President.
 
2013-10-15 03:18:00 PM  

jaytkay: ManateeGag: Par for the course for hackers, but I'm sure this is somehow another reason Obamacare is bad.

It's Hot Air. The reasons probably incude Benghazi or WWII vets being attacked at the Lincoln memorial.


I thought the WW2 people were attacked... Some dipshiat Canadian citizen. Some crazy eyed lady who has a large feminine marcus at home. Some Alaskan who pines for Mother Russia. And the rest, here on WTF isle.
 
2013-10-15 03:19:30 PM  

Mithiwithi: Headso: Democrats should just say the reason the sites aren't working well is because of the republican shutdown.

The more subtle version, which I have seen, is "the sites aren't working well because they were contracted out to private firms". Not everything can be spun as anti-Republican, but if that fails, it can always be spun as pro-big-government.

/my own spin is "it's a huge system designed to serve tens of millions of end users and interface with dozens of disparate partners whose core competency isn't technology, with little opportunity for advance testing; it's a wonder it worked at all on release".


your own spin is too complicated, by the 8th word people are thinking about what they are having for dinner while you finish the rest of the sentence. "It's because republicans shutdown the government" is short and sweet and then the republicans can have their say and then the media can report both sides of the story without actually looking for the truth because reporting the truth can appear like bias.
 
2013-10-15 03:24:45 PM  

Mithiwithi: Headso: Democrats should just say the reason the sites aren't working well is because of the republican shutdown.

The more subtle version, which I have seen, is "the sites aren't working well because they were contracted out to private firms". Not everything can be spun as anti-Republican, but if that fails, it can always be spun as pro-big-government.

/my own spin is "it's a huge system designed to serve tens of millions of end users and interface with dozens of disparate partners whose core competency isn't technology, with little opportunity for advance testing; it's a wonder it worked at all on release".


And so, much like the bill itself, a half baked POS is all we get for 600 Million dollars. Nice job.
 
2013-10-15 03:25:02 PM  
I'm pretty sure there's plenty of people out there looking to scam people looking for insurance...

...they're called "insurance companies".
 
2013-10-15 03:25:41 PM  

coeyagi: dittybopper: Great_Milenko: red5ish: I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are Republicans, attempting to cause more trouble. They have been known to do this kind of thing.

Nah, the RNC has no idea how the internet works.

Apparently, neither does the Obama administration...

Just curious, does the Administration including the guy hired by the guy hired by the guy hired by the guy hired by Obama?


You know, a rather famous Democratic president once had this sign on his desk:

pixel.nymag.com
 
2013-10-15 03:26:14 PM  

Great_Milenko: red5ish: I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are Republicans, attempting to cause more trouble. They have been known to do this kind of thing.

Nah, the RNC has no idea how the internet works.


The people that gave us the site which produced Weedlord Bonerhitler?

You don't say?
 
2013-10-15 03:29:48 PM  

dittybopper: coeyagi: dittybopper: Great_Milenko: red5ish: I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are Republicans, attempting to cause more trouble. They have been known to do this kind of thing.

Nah, the RNC has no idea how the internet works.

Apparently, neither does the Obama administration...

Just curious, does the Administration including the guy hired by the guy hired by the guy hired by the guy hired by Obama?

You know, a rather famous Democratic president once had this sign on his desk:

[pixel.nymag.com image 560x375]


Ok, so derp.  If someone f*cks up at the FDA and a drug gets recalled because they didn't do their job in scrutinizing clinical trial data, Obama should resign / be impeached / admit blame?

//c'mon, dude, you just knew I was going to assf*ck your sh*tty logic. You should have just walked away.
 
2013-10-15 03:30:02 PM  

dittybopper: coeyagi: dittybopper: Great_Milenko: red5ish: I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are Republicans, attempting to cause more trouble. They have been known to do this kind of thing.

Nah, the RNC has no idea how the internet works.

Apparently, neither does the Obama administration...

Just curious, does the Administration including the guy hired by the guy hired by the guy hired by the guy hired by Obama?

You know, a rather famous Democratic president once had this sign on his desk:

[pixel.nymag.com image 560x375]


That looks shooped.  I can tell from the pixels.
 
2013-10-15 03:31:03 PM  

dittybopper: coeyagi: dittybopper: Great_Milenko: red5ish: I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are Republicans, attempting to cause more trouble. They have been known to do this kind of thing.

Nah, the RNC has no idea how the internet works.

Apparently, neither does the Obama administration...

Just curious, does the Administration including the guy hired by the guy hired by the guy hired by the guy hired by Obama?

You know, a rather famous Democratic president once had this sign on his desk:

[pixel.nymag.com image 560x375]


Did he actually follow through with it? I don't recall any acts of executive bad-assery by Truman.
 
2013-10-15 03:32:15 PM  
So it is not unlike thousands of other websites that contain your vital private info that also have site masquerading as their own who's intention is to still your info.
 
2013-10-15 03:33:12 PM  

ongbok: So it is not unlike thousands of other websites that contain your vital private info that also have site masquerading as their own who's intention is to still your info.


How many of them were the direct result of a famous black socialist spreading his Fart-and-tax manifesto though?
 
2013-10-15 03:35:04 PM  
Tea Party Favorite Ezra Klein:

One thing the Obama administration has been really paranoid about is rate shock. When someone like me says there'll be rate shock they say you have to net out the subsidies. That is a fair point. But I think what happened was when they designed their system, they were so paranoid about that, that they wanted to make sure people browsing got the lowest price. That required signing in so you could see subsidies. And my theory is that's why they went to the architecture they did even though the IT systems people wanted to go another way.

There's your bottleneck.
 
2013-10-15 03:35:20 PM  

super_grass: I don't recall any acts of executive bad-assery by Truman.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-10-15 03:36:43 PM  

coeyagi: Ok, so derp. If someone f*cks up at the FDA and a drug gets recalled because they didn't do their job in scrutinizing clinical trial data, Obama should resign / be impeached / admit blame?


Of course.  Obama should resign / be impeached / admit blame every time anything happens.
s3-ec.buzzfed.com
 
2013-10-15 03:38:01 PM  

jaytkay: super_grass: I don't recall any acts of executive bad-assery by Truman.


......recall affirmed !!!
 
2013-10-15 03:43:16 PM  

coeyagi: Ok, so derp.  If someone f*cks up at the FDA and a drug gets recalled because they didn't do their job in scrutinizing clinical trial data, Obama should resign / be impeached / admit blame?

//c'mon, dude, you just knew I was going to assf*ck your sh*tty logic. You should have just walked away.


Sorry, this was his baby.  His legacy.  It's not something 50 year old government agency inherited, he's the one ultimately responsible for it's creation, because he campaigned on it, his party shepherded through Congress with his input, and he signed his farkin' name to it.

You should be the one walking away, first because it was a farkin' *JOKE* about the piss-poor design of the website, and second, because like I said, this isn't something he inherited, it's something he *CREATED*.

So he farking *OWNS* it, just like Bush owned the Department of Fatherland Security.
 
2013-10-15 03:43:41 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Mithiwithi: Headso: Democrats should just say the reason the sites aren't working well is because of the republican shutdown.

The more subtle version, which I have seen, is "the sites aren't working well because they were contracted out to private firms". Not everything can be spun as anti-Republican, but if that fails, it can always be spun as pro-big-government.

/my own spin is "it's a huge system designed to serve tens of millions of end users and interface with dozens of disparate partners whose core competency isn't technology, with little opportunity for advance testing; it's a wonder it worked at all on release".

And so, much like the bill itself, a half baked POS is all we get for 600 Million dollars. Nice job.


Show me the private-sector major release that did any better. No, Google and Facebook don't count, they had the better part of a decade to scale to their present volume.
 
2013-10-15 03:45:08 PM  

jaytkay: super_grass: I don't recall any acts of executive bad-assery by Truman.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x380]


*NICE*.

Truman is the only president to have nuked a city.  And he did it *TWICE*.

Agree with that decision or not, the man had the stones to own up to it.
 
2013-10-15 03:50:13 PM  

dittybopper: coeyagi: Ok, so derp.  If someone f*cks up at the FDA and a drug gets recalled because they didn't do their job in scrutinizing clinical trial data, Obama should resign / be impeached / admit blame?

//c'mon, dude, you just knew I was going to assf*ck your sh*tty logic. You should have just walked away.

Sorry, this was his baby.  His legacy.  It's not something 50 year old government agency inherited, he's the one ultimately responsible for it's creation, because he campaigned on it, his party shepherded through Congress with his input, and he signed his farkin' name to it.

You should be the one walking away, first because it was a farkin' *JOKE* about the piss-poor design of the website, and second, because like I said, this isn't something he inherited, it's something he *CREATED*.

So he farking *OWNS* it, just like Bush owned the Department of Fatherland Security.


He owns it alright, after the thousands of hours we had to endure him on the telly....I think he even interipted a wesson oil commercial to sell, sell, sell!
 
2013-10-15 03:53:28 PM  

super_grass: Did he actually follow through with it? I don't recall any acts of executive bad-assery by Truman.


He integrated the US Military, ending segregation by executive order.  And despite the Dixiecrats (racist Southern Democrats), he did it 100 days before his re-election.

Other examples of his executive bad-assery:

Berlin Airlift.

Dismissed the most popular military man in the US, General Douglas MacArthur.
 
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