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(Time)   Orange juice sales sinking to a 15 year low. SELL MORTIMER, SELL   (business.time.com) divider line 76
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2013-10-15 11:15:25 AM  
Where the hell is Beeks?
 
2013-10-15 11:27:18 AM  
Now, you listen to me! I want trading reopened right now. Get those brokers back in here! Turn those machines back on!
 
2013-10-15 11:42:49 AM  
I'm going to guess it is because people are drinking energy drinks instead now.
 
2013-10-15 11:43:50 AM  
Maybe this means we are just brushing our teeth more.

Toothpaste sales must be through the roof! BUY BUY BUY!
 
2013-10-15 11:45:01 AM  
Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?
 
2013-10-15 11:50:05 AM  

majestic: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?


This has to be partially to blame -- Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.
 
2013-10-15 11:55:01 AM  

Mr.Poops: This has to be partially to blame -- Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.


That's more like it.
 
2013-10-15 11:56:11 AM  
I ain't gonna have no money to buy my son the G.I. Joe with the kung-fu grip!
 
2013-10-15 11:57:48 AM  
Too much sugar.

We must eliminate the juice.
 
2013-10-15 12:01:45 PM  
Orange juice gives me heartburn.
 
2013-10-15 12:03:09 PM  
They need to buy time on Limbaugh show again, the boycott/publicity helped them last time.
 
2013-10-15 12:04:11 PM  
Well, oranges might be half way healthy, so they're not going to sell in the USA.
 
2013-10-15 12:10:02 PM  
Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.


It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.
 
2013-10-15 12:10:53 PM  
I hadn't really thought about it, but go look for OJ in your local grocery store. The ones around here, it's tucked into the far end of a cooler section with the milk front and center. At the Dillon's around here, you have to walk past the some automotive supplies and lightbulbs to get to it, it's right next to some cheap furniture they're selling to try and compete with Wal-Mart.
 
2013-10-15 12:15:23 PM  
What else to people drink in the morning? Water? Coffee? Nothing? Apple Juice (which is absolutely disgusting and pretty much just sugar)?

I'll stick with my extra pulp Florida's Natural or Simply Orange please.
 
2013-10-15 12:16:38 PM  

jayhawk88: I hadn't really thought about it, but go look for OJ in your local grocery store. The ones around here, it's tucked into the far end of a cooler section with the milk front and center. At the Dillon's around here, you have to walk past the some automotive supplies and lightbulbs to get to it, it's right next to some cheap furniture they're selling to try and compete with Wal-Mart.


WTF? I've never seen a grocery store like that in my life. You have to walk past automotive parts to get to the dairy case?
 
2013-10-15 12:17:20 PM  

SixPaperJoint: I ain't gonna have no money to buy my son the G.I. Joe with the kung-fu grip!


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2013-10-15 12:18:12 PM  
Maybe it's because OJ costs about the same as printer ink.
/dnrta
 
2013-10-15 12:19:40 PM  
Anecdote, not data: I used to drink a glass of OJ every day. Then I figured out just how much sugar I was consuming, and that it wasn't doing me any good. Stopped. I'd sell my shares if I had any in Coke (Minute-Maid) or Pepsi (Tropicana?).
 
2013-10-15 12:24:28 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.


Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.
 
2013-10-15 12:27:34 PM  

ReapTheChaos: jayhawk88: I hadn't really thought about it, but go look for OJ in your local grocery store. The ones around here, it's tucked into the far end of a cooler section with the milk front and center. At the Dillon's around here, you have to walk past the some automotive supplies and lightbulbs to get to it, it's right next to some cheap furniture they're selling to try and compete with Wal-Mart.

WTF? I've never seen a grocery store like that in my life. You have to walk past automotive parts to get to the dairy case?


Think of it like an upside down "T"...you have an aisle you're walking down with like automotive/household stuff on one side and I think maybe trash/ziploc bags on the other side, then the dairy/juice cooler is built into the back wall of the store (with the stock room behind it). Other weird stuff too, like juice in big bottles in one aisle next to bottled water, but single-serving juice boxes 3 aisles over next to coffee.

It may just be that the people who run Dillons (Kroger) were driven crazy trying to keep themselves alive against Wal-Mart's rise to power...I have noticed that if I go into unfamiliar grocery stores in other cities, I basically feel like I'm shopping on Mars.
 
2013-10-15 12:33:31 PM  
Well I will drink more then. I prefer Florida's natural or Simply Orange and my roomate hates OJ so she will never touch it.
 
2013-10-15 12:39:14 PM  
It ain't cool being no jive turkey this close to Thanksgiving.
 
2013-10-15 12:45:50 PM  

majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.


This. If you want an orange, eat the fruit. The ones sold for eating taste good. From my experience, the oranges that get used for commercial juice are really tart; that's why they end up putting so much added sugar in it.
 
2013-10-15 12:46:35 PM  

majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.


^^ This. Eat the fruit -- you get the fiber and full nutritional benefits without added sugar. And by added sugar, I mean concentrating the juice and adding more sugar than you would normally get from a regular orange.
 
2013-10-15 12:49:06 PM  
I agree that crap OJ is just homogenized crap.

Good OJ is flipping expensive... but worth it

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2013-10-15 12:49:49 PM  
Whisky, all you want!
 
2013-10-15 12:54:19 PM  

Mr.Poops: majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.

^^ This. Eat the fruit -- you get the fiber and full nutritional benefits without added sugar. And by added sugar, I mean concentrating the juice and adding more sugar than you would normally get from a regular orange.


Can you name a brand of OJ that adds additional sugar?
 
2013-10-15 12:56:21 PM  

EJ25T: majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.

This. If you want an orange, eat the fruit. The ones sold for eating taste good. From my experience, the oranges that get used for commercial juice are really tart; that's why they end up putting so much added sugar in it.


Name one major brand of OJ that adds sugar. I'm not talking about crap like Sunny D, I mean real OJ like Tropicana, Simply Orange, Minute Maid etc. Next time you're in the grocery store you should read the labels, none of them do.
 
2013-10-15 01:00:31 PM  

Mr.Poops: ^^ This. Eat the fruit -- you get the fiber and full nutritional benefits without added sugar.


And the flesh will fill your stomach a little bit.
 
2013-10-15 01:06:47 PM  

ReapTheChaos: EJ25T: majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.

This. If you want an orange, eat the fruit. The ones sold for eating taste good. From my experience, the oranges that get used for commercial juice are really tart; that's why they end up putting so much added sugar in it.

Name one major brand of OJ that adds sugar. I'm not talking about crap like Sunny D, I mean real OJ like Tropicana, Simply Orange, Minute Maid etc. Next time you're in the grocery store you should read the labels, none of them do.


One serving of juice is about like eating 3 or 4 oranges. Many more calories and sugar with considerably less fiber.
 
2013-10-15 01:11:03 PM  
I'd rather drink a Pepsi Max and take a vitamin.

Cheaper, tastes better, healthier.
 
2013-10-15 01:11:14 PM  

majestic: ReapTheChaos: EJ25T: majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.

This. If you want an orange, eat the fruit. The ones sold for eating taste good. From my experience, the oranges that get used for commercial juice are really tart; that's why they end up putting so much added sugar in it.

Name one major brand of OJ that adds sugar. I'm not talking about crap like Sunny D, I mean real OJ like Tropicana, Simply Orange, Minute Maid etc. Next time you're in the grocery store you should read the labels, none of them do.

One serving of juice is about like eating 3 or 4 oranges. Many more calories and sugar with considerably less fiber.


At least they stopped adding so much sugar to it.
 
2013-10-15 01:13:11 PM  

majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.


Sorry but you're wrong. One large orange is about 90 calories while a serving of juice is about 110, however the juice is much higher in things like vitamin c, potassium and protein. The only thing you're missing out on is some dietary fiber, which can easily be made up in other areas of your diet. When you take into account that a lot of brands add in extra nutrients like calcium, vitamin D, and others you're far better off (nutritionally speaking) with the juice.
 
2013-10-15 01:21:15 PM  

ReapTheChaos: majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.

Sorry but you're wrong. One large orange is about 90 calories while a serving of juice is about 110, however the juice is much higher in things like vitamin c, potassium and protein. The only thing you're missing out on is some dietary fiber, which can easily be made up in other areas of your diet. When you take into account that a lot of brands add in extra nutrients like calcium, vitamin D, and others you're far better off (nutritionally speaking) with the juice.


Nope, the juice is rapidly absorbed by your system as opposed to the fruit and actually increases your risk of fun things like diabetes.
 
2013-10-15 01:25:44 PM  
Good. I find OJ to be too sweet. No, this isn't a jab at added sugar, so fark off. I much prefer grapefruit juice.
 
2013-10-15 01:27:20 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Mr.Poops: majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.

^^ This. Eat the fruit -- you get the fiber and full nutritional benefits without added sugar. And by added sugar, I mean concentrating the juice and adding more sugar than you would normally get from a regular orange.

Can you name a brand of OJ that adds additional sugar?


All of them do. It's just veiled as "from concentrate". They're not adding cane sugar, they're adding fruit sugar in the form of concentrate. It's the same concept. They formulate the sweetness in orange juice to make it more palatable and to reach the bliss point -- so that you're always going to want more.
 
2013-10-15 01:27:39 PM  
majestic:

Nope, the juice is rapidly absorbed by your system as opposed to the fruit and actually increases your risk of fun things like diabetes.

Sounds pretty scientific.
 
2013-10-15 01:30:14 PM  

Rapmaster2000: majestic:

Nope, the juice is rapidly absorbed by your system as opposed to the fruit and actually increases your risk of fun things like diabetes.

Sounds pretty scientific.


You don't think diabetes is fun?

;)
 
2013-10-15 01:31:54 PM  

Mr.Poops: Rapmaster2000: Mr.Poops: majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.

^^ This. Eat the fruit -- you get the fiber and full nutritional benefits without added sugar. And by added sugar, I mean concentrating the juice and adding more sugar than you would normally get from a regular orange.

Can you name a brand of OJ that adds additional sugar?

All of them do. It's just veiled as "from concentrate". They're not adding cane sugar, they're adding fruit sugar in the form of concentrate. It's the same concept. They formulate the sweetness in orange juice to make it more palatable and to reach the bliss point -- so that you're always going to want more.


Sure sounds like ReapTheChaos is doing damage control for the Duke brothers.
 
2013-10-15 01:33:14 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Sorry but you're wrong.


The fun thing about Google?  You can type in a phrase, such as "why you should eat fruit instead of drinking fruit juice ", and get tons of hits demonstrating that the  real health benefits of fruit come from eating it, not drinking the extracted juice.

Go ahead, try it.  It's fun.

In case you're not able to handle that, this is from a PDF on the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) website:

100% fruit juice is a popular drink with kids and teens, but most people drink more than they should.  Drinking fruit juice instead of healthier drinks like water and milk can lead to poor health. The best way to get the nutrients from fruit into your diet is to eat the actual fruit instead!

And later:

Limiting fruit juice is a healthy choice for you and your family.

Now granted, they're just a hospital, and probably know far less than someone posting on Fark.

(direct link to the PDF is  http://www.chop.edu/export/download/pdfs/articles/healthy-weight/heal t hyweight-pdf-fruit-juice.pdf)
 
2013-10-15 01:36:49 PM  
Because folks hate being lied to by an entire industry? The only way you're going to get orange juice that tastes like oranges is to actually squeeze it yourself, because these assholes will use whatever loopholes they can engineer or exploit in USDA regulations to sell you substandard flavored crap and call it "orange juice."

Oh, and don't search for "zombie OJ" - entirely different subject, apparently, than "zombie orange juice."
 
2013-10-15 01:41:38 PM  

Mr.Poops: Rapmaster2000: Mr.Poops: majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.

^^ This. Eat the fruit -- you get the fiber and full nutritional benefits without added sugar. And by added sugar, I mean concentrating the juice and adding more sugar than you would normally get from a regular orange.

Can you name a brand of OJ that adds additional sugar?

All of them do. It's just veiled as "from concentrate". They're not adding cane sugar, they're adding fruit sugar in the form of concentrate. It's the same concept. They formulate the sweetness in orange juice to make it more palatable and to reach the bliss point -- so that you're always going to want more.


What about all of those that advertise as not from concentrate.  Like all of the brands in the coolers section at the supermarket.
www.pepsico.ca What nefarious things are they doing to the 100% pure squeezed juice?
 
2013-10-15 01:47:35 PM  
It's still sketchy
http://gizmodo.com/5825909/orange-juice-is-artificially-flavored-to- ta ste-like-oranges

Basic gist of the article: removing oxygen from the juice to prevent spoilage also removes any flavor. So they re-add flavor with "flavor packs", which is derived from orange juice and oils -- since it is orange derived, they can still call it orange juice. They also add a nice nitrogen blanket over all that juice during manufacturing, but the article doesn't mention that process
 
2013-10-15 01:48:16 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Mr.Poops: Rapmaster2000: Mr.Poops: majestic: ReapTheChaos: Maybe it's because the crap you buy in the store is mostly bad for you?

Orange Juice is nothing but glorified, reconstituted sugar water.

It's idiotic statements like this that's to blame. Dumb asses who go around saying that because fruit juice has calories it's no better than drinking soda and completely ignore the fact that there's nutrition in it.

What's bad for you are things like Capri Sun and Sunny D, which are nothing more than flavored sugar water. Regular 100% juice is damn good for you.

Sorry, but you are wrong.  I don't care what brand of juice you are buying, you are far better off eating the fruit. You should really look into how OJ, or most any juice for that matter, is made.

^^ This. Eat the fruit -- you get the fiber and full nutritional benefits without added sugar. And by added sugar, I mean concentrating the juice and adding more sugar than you would normally get from a regular orange.

Can you name a brand of OJ that adds additional sugar?

All of them do. It's just veiled as "from concentrate". They're not adding cane sugar, they're adding fruit sugar in the form of concentrate. It's the same concept. They formulate the sweetness in orange juice to make it more palatable and to reach the bliss point -- so that you're always going to want more.

What about all of those that advertise as not from concentrate.  Like all of the brands in the coolers section at the supermarket.
[www.pepsico.ca image 800x550] What nefarious things are they doing to the 100% pure squeezed juice?


Like I said, look at that label... all sugar, no fiber. Not to mention where those oranges come from.... picked green and ripend with gas. It's better than soda, but just barely.
 
2013-10-15 01:50:26 PM  
And because they don't disclose how much of these flavor packets they add, it's artificially sweetening. But again, because it's orange derived, they can list it as 100% natural. There are tons of weird loopholes in nutritional listings.

Lots of juices that have "fruit pulp" is actually glorified "bean pulp". But because a beans are technically and botanically fruit, many juices add bean pulp because it's cheaper and has a similar texture. Again, another technicality.
 
2013-10-15 01:51:47 PM  
majestic:

Like I said, look at that label... all sugar, no fiber. Not to mention where those oranges come from.... picked green and ripend with gas. It's better than soda, but just barely.

Plus they add all of that sugar.  It's not there on the label, but you know they do it.  All of them do it.

You can't trust Big OJ.
 
2013-10-15 01:55:22 PM  

Mr.Poops: And because they don't disclose how much of these flavor packets they add, it's artificially sweetening. But again, because it's orange derived, they can list it as 100% natural. There are tons of weird loopholes in nutritional listings.

Lots of juices that have "fruit pulp" is actually glorified "bean pulp". But because a beans are technically and botanically fruit, many juices add bean pulp because it's cheaper and has a similar texture. Again, another technicality.


I like all of the sources you posted that prove just how deep this goes.  I heard they put MSG in there to make it taste so good.  MSG is glutamate and glutamate is in everything, so they can call it natural flavoring.

There's a lot of stuff they won't tell you.  You can't trust Big MSG.  ReapTheChaos is clearly shilling for the suits at Lawry's.
 
2013-10-15 01:56:07 PM  
www.dimensionz.net

Don't fark with the Duck!

/... Don't Fark with the Dark? Sure, why not.
//100% Pure Squeezed awful!
 
2013-10-15 02:00:07 PM  
http://www.foodrenegade.com/secret-ingredient-your-orange-juice/

Article on how your "all-natural" OJ is made.
 
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