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(Slate)   "Your tablet computer is not cool. Your rideshare app is not cool. Your TED Talk on mindful tweeting is--I hope you'll agree--pretty clearly not cool"   (slate.com) divider line 15
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3400 clicks; posted to Geek » on 15 Oct 2013 at 7:37 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-10-15 07:43:45 AM  
4 votes:
Slate was never cool
2013-10-15 09:41:42 AM  
2 votes:
My tablet converts into a high battery life laptop by just sliding it into a keyboard dock, complete with USB and other peripherals. I can draw on it when I'm trying to illustrate things for my students a thousand miles away, and use the built-in microphone and webcam for simultaneous voice and video chat. When I want to take a break, I can launch a simple app and play a whole lot of the games on my computer at home, using either mouse and keyboard or translated touch controls - or I can boot up DOSBox and play a lot of the games I loved from the '90s and early '00s era. I can and have wirelessly tethered my rooted phone and played Skyrim on a park bench, simply because I could. I can do word processing and email with the keyboard when I'm at a stable place, or via touch when I'm in bed. I'm perfectly capable of Can it do the high-octane games or the Paradox grand strategy games I love so much? No (although the latter is simply due to Paradox not thinking it's financially viable yet). And for none of this do I have to lug around a large laptop or deal with boot times or bring along a charger - the whole thing fits into a small case, and its power lasts all day save for the most graphically demanding tasks.

I grew up having to connect a 33.6 modem to the internet, fiddling with Winsock in Windows for Workgroups 3.11 on the off chance that I'd be able to start up a multiplayer game of DOOM over Dwango. Please, go ahead and tell me that my tablet isn't farking cool.
2013-10-15 09:25:52 AM  
2 votes:

nulluspixiusdemonica: 1) If you're entering network credentials into software on a tablet, you should be fired.


You have no idea what you're talking about nor do you understand even the basics of any of the underlying technologies that have been commonly used in remote management scenarios since long before tablets became a "thing".

nulluspixiusdemonica: 3) The minuscule number of folks who actually use them functionally barely rate a mention when compared to the sheer flood of mouth-breathing dimbulbs out there pawing at them like a horde of destitute stroke victims.


Did you get that in an email from your grandma while you were playing Borderlands 2?

Yea, yea, we get it. You have it all figured out and only the things you do are useful and everybody else is retarded and just can't see your glorious light leading us from the darkness.

What, exactly, is it that you do for a living again?

ReverendJasen: . If I'm going to be spending more than a few minutes on it, or have to type more than a couple commands, or need to see more of the screen than 600x400 at a time, it's a goddamn pain in the ass and I'll go for the laptop or KVM every time.


It's almost as if throughout the entirety of time humans have crafted multiple tools that are customized to specific jobs in ways that take advantage of the unique demands of that specific task.

Next thing you'll start telling me you don't pound in screws with a hammer or something.

I'm sorry for the sarcasm (no, I'm not) but either your comment is entirely outside the bounds of numbnuts' up there or you're just sort of stating that obvious. That different tasks often require different tools. I mean, sometimes I use the out of band management on the servers too. Not often, but sometimes it's handy. The fact that I don't use it very often doesn't invalidate any of the other tools I use, however.
2013-10-15 09:06:03 AM  
2 votes:

skozlaw: I'll remember that when I'm in the server room later using my tablet to SSH and RDP to machines without having to dick around with the KVM.


1) If you're entering network credentials into software on a tablet, you should be fired.
2) All tasks quite capably achievable via most smart phones
3) The minuscule number of folks who actually use them functionally barely rate a mention when compared to the sheer flood of mouth-breathing dimbulbs out there pawing at them like a horde of destitute stroke victims.

Primary purchase reason for these superfluous bits of disposable tech: Entertainment and 'prestige'.
2013-10-15 12:37:51 PM  
1 votes:

entropic_existence: The real way to spot a faux tech "expert", someone who dismisses any piece of technology outside of their own bubble of productivity as a "useless toy." Yes, tablets are primarily geared towards passive consumption in their use. But hell most desktop and laptop computers are also pretty heavily used for passive media consumption as well.


There's nothing wrong with tablets per se. The problem is they stopped being cool the moment Luddites turned them into a technocrusade against all other computing devices, backed by the loud barking voices of the pseudo tech experts that staff the technology sections of fish wrap news papers.
They're loudly shouting the death of all computing devices that are not capacitive touchscreen smartphones or tablets with "curated" (i.e. restrictive) UIs.

1. Miniaturization = $$$ - Anyone with even passing knowledge of computer engineering can tell you this. That means you pay more for less when you put tiny little chips inside a tiny little device. And it means you get more for less when you buy the big honking chips that you put inside a desktop PC. The constant whining about laggy interfaces in tiny tablets, not even gaming just the device's basic interface and video watching functionality, is proof enough of that in view of those device's high costs. Insert lecture about the high cost of smartphones masked by the insanely expensive mobile contracts forced on the user by mobile phone companies here.

2. Restrictive UIs = $$$ - The reason Apple and other companies are pushing these "curated", closed, restrictive systems to the ignorant masses is that it allows them to completely control the "application ecosystem". That mean they control the means of distribution and transaction, and thereby reap the financial benefits. There is no other reason this needs to be so, as shown by Android's open interface and application installation environment. With proper software engineering, with an iTunes style distribution platform such as Google Play, you can please both the tech savvy and the tech ignorant.

3. Power and adaptability = USEFUL - Which is a lesson the newly initiated are learning the hard way. After shelling out far too much money for far too little power and utility, now they're shelling out yet more for basic functionality. Oh, you want to be able to type more than 10 words a minute? I guess you can buy our branded bluetooth keyboard and mouse, here's our stupid flat keyboard that rolls up and is horrible to use. Oh, you want to use Office? I guess you should upgrade to the Pro so you can actually get some work done. Oh, you want more than 3 hours of battery life? I guess it's time to upgrade. Oh, you want more than almost no storage at all? Guess you should buy some more expensive per GB than hard drives SD cards. Oh, you want to play video games that don't suck? Well, upgrade to our Pro 2 Expensive Edition tablet.

You can argue that anyone can learn these things with some simple self education through Google or Amazon, but the exact same argument goes for a laptop or PC with less restrictive storage (hard drives) and less cost for the power and utility.

The levels of HERP-DEE-DERP surrounding tablets has reached levels unseen since the levels of DEEERRRP DEEE DEEERP surrounding the iPhone in the 2009. Tablets and smartphones are nice pieces of tech, nice new toys in the world of computing that fill a needed roll, but they're not the Living God Returned on Earth to Salvation us from Satan Himself the Desktop Computer. And every time I read a "pundit" proclaiming such, something Fark has linked to more than once, I get a little more annoyed, same as I do everytime someone blames mental illness for every murder in the world, despite the existence of vast armies of sane men trained to kill by sane men, of cold blooded killers who kill for money or vengeance or fools who kill while intoxicated in moments of rage.
2013-10-15 10:52:33 AM  
1 votes:

nulluspixiusdemonica: LasersHurt: This is a blindingly inane point of view, and I hope you are not in any position of power in the Tech world.

I would have said "spot on". Tablet 'computers' are for the technologically backward. They serve no additional function outside of appearing 'cool' and 'intelligent', with the *only* benefit being a slightly larger viewing area. Everything else is downside.

Anyone arguing for their use with reference to productivity is either intentionally or unintentionally delusional. They're toys and status symbols. Nothing more.


The real way to spot a faux tech "expert", someone who dismisses any piece of technology outside of their own bubble of productivity as a "useless toy." Yes, tablets are primarily geared towards passive consumption in their use. But hell most desktop and laptop computers are also pretty heavily used for passive media consumption as well.

There are plenty of sectors where tablets work better than a laptop and help improve productivity. There are also many cases where they make certain types of computer use more comfortable. I'm a scientist who does a lot of programming and data analysis, it also means I read a lot of the scientific literature. Tablets are one of the most convenient ways of reading the literature right now and have a lot of advantages over reading a PDF on a laptop or desktop, over an e-reader, and over a physical copy. That increases productivity in many ways. Hell both my external examiner and one of my committee members read and annotated my thesis that way for my defense.

There are also sectors like healthcare where tablets can be great for handling of electronic data where you only need to do small amounts of input and need to be very mobile. That can increase productivity too.

Whether most people using a piece of technology use it for consumption and just having fun is irrelevant to whether or not it is a useful or productive piece of technology.
2013-10-15 09:49:27 AM  
1 votes:

FrancoFile: nulluspixiusdemonica: LasersHurt: This is a blindingly inane point of view, and I hope you are not in any position of power in the Tech world.

I would have said "spot on". Tablet 'computers' are for the technologically backward. They serve no additional function outside of appearing 'cool' and 'intelligent', with the *only* benefit being a slightly larger viewing area. Everything else is downside.

Anyone arguing for their use with reference to productivity is either intentionally or unintentionally delusional. They're toys and status symbols. Nothing more.

So much this.

There are valid business uses - Square register, smart-room controls that also hook into room reservation (conference rooms).  But 99% of tablets are just used for games and media consumption.

If I can't run a development suite for a modern language on it, plus a web server and database server in sandbox mode, it's not a computer.


Set up your sandbox servers and access them through terminal services. Same with any apps you want to run. Though that may not be an option for everyone.
2013-10-15 09:12:54 AM  
1 votes:

LasersHurt: So it's irrelevant to you that you can attach a keyboard and mouse?


If I'm doing that, I just made it a laptop.  I have a laptop, and it's faster and has a larger screen than the tablet.
2013-10-15 09:11:46 AM  
1 votes:

nulluspixiusdemonica: 'prestige'.


Explain to me why you think ANYONE thinks there's prestige involved? I've never encountered anyone who thinks tablets are a matter of prestige or are status symbols, and I work with Mobile Devices for a living. It sounds like something you've made up to whine about.
2013-10-15 08:49:30 AM  
1 votes:

nulluspixiusdemonica: Tablet 'computers' are for the technologically backward


I'll remember that when I'm in the server room later using my tablet to SSH and RDP to machines without having to dick around with the KVM. Or when I'm laying in bed at 2 am and get a notice that a VM has failed and I only have to take 5 minutes to remotely connect and run a script to move it to a new virtual host from my pillow instead of having to get up and fumble around with my laptop and VPN connection.

But, please, continue. Enlighten us with your technologically forward thoughts.

LasersHurt: Windows 8 machines


Don't help him prove his point.

/ it's easier and quicker to manage Windows machines from a rooted Android tablet than a factory Surface Pro
2013-10-15 08:29:40 AM  
1 votes:
Cool is indifference...
... which this guy is most definitely not.

Especially about reclaiming the word "cool" to stand for indifference.

He gives too many farks.
www.allhailtheblackmarket.com
2013-10-15 07:47:11 AM  
1 votes:
I don't care if [insert whatever technology I'm using at the moment] is cool, I just care if it's productive or fun. If I want to be cool or ironic, I'll make a bootleg Poochie tshirt.
2013-10-15 07:44:23 AM  
1 votes:
Scraping the bottom of the barrel for an idea for this week's cranky blog is not cool
2013-10-15 07:44:05 AM  
1 votes:
i.chzbgr.com
2013-10-15 07:37:24 AM  
1 votes:
I think Steve McQueen is about to drive through that writer's living room.
 
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