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(Sun Sentinel)   Guy gets stranded at the beach naked after his friend steals all his clothes, so he decides to run home nude. This being Florida, naturally a stranger shoots him dead   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 57
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2013-10-15 12:21:38 AM  
13 votes:

fusillade762: He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?


Besides, "You can get away with murder in Florida"?
2013-10-15 06:04:00 AM  
6 votes:
Thank goodness that guy had a gun! Imagine what might have happened if guns were illegal and not so widely owned, this guy may have been forced to act more intelligently.
2013-10-15 12:15:42 AM  
6 votes:
He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?
2013-10-15 10:05:21 AM  
3 votes:

This text is now purple: d23: A naked man is a VERY vulnerable man. Shoot him in the leg. I don't have all the facts, but it sure sounds like it at least needed to be investigated.

There's no such concept as "shooting to wound" in jurisprudence.


eurotrash: Misconduc: Confabulat: eurotrash: I know it's Florida but why is this law not repealed immediately?

There is no demand from Florida voters to repeal it.

Because for every 1 idiot that gets into an argument and gets killed, there are 9 others who use the law to its effect - in the case in my area 3 thugs broke into a house, the owner told them to stop and they continued to climb through a window - where the home owner shot the kid.
He gets off, the two kids that were involved got the murder charge for being there.

Its 3 am and three 18 yr old thugs break into your house, yeah you are sitting in a closet calling 911, no you shoot and ask questions later.

No I don't, for all I know it could be my nephew coming home late, locals doing a drunk prank so I get out of the house. There is no possession that is worth a persons life, nothing that a thief would want is something I wouldn't be able to replace.

In a civilized society we give the government monopoly on violence, this is done to avoid a lawless society where the strong prevail and weaker people cower. I know that you will never see it this way, in your world a TV is worth more to you than a fellow human beings life.


What if they aren't there for your possessions?

What if they are there to rape your wife and daughter?

How would you know what they are there for.

Breaking and entering to steal a TV is the gateway to full on home invasion rapes and murders.

Shoot to kill, you may have just paid it forward and saved the lives of someone like the Petit family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire,_Connecticut,_home_invasion_mu rd ers

Why is it that the TV is not worth taking someones life over....why don't you word it as "someone elses TV is not worth you risking your life by trying to take it"

Shows who you value more...the criminal.
2013-10-15 08:40:04 AM  
3 votes:

Tat'dGreaser: defending


Shooting a naked person you backtracked to confront is not self-defense.

The argument you people put forth in these cases always rests entirely on the notion that there is no responsibility on the part of the shooter for his actions in the lead-up to the shooting. That's ridiculous. People with guns should be expected to exercise MORE responsibility, not be completely absolved of it.
2013-10-15 05:24:17 AM  
3 votes:

fusillade762: He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?


The guy drove past, interest piqued, he came back around and offers Naked Man a ride.  Thankful Naked Man approaches and Driver propositions him for sex.  Naked Man becomes frustrated, lots of name-calling and get-the-f*ck-off-me's.  Driver shoots Naked Man, panics, then remembers that October to February is "Running Black Kid" season in Florida.
2013-10-15 02:38:14 AM  
3 votes:
I don't get it. If I see some naked dude running down the road I'm going to give him a couple cheers "woo no pants!", honk the horn a few times, and hope he doesn't wind up on a sex offender registry.
2013-10-15 01:03:48 AM  
3 votes:
Time to kill everyone in floriduh.
Nuke it from Orbit.
It is the only way to be sure.
2013-10-15 01:03:33 AM  
3 votes:
He was arguing with his friend while on the beach, naked.

That must have been some argument.
2013-10-15 12:54:12 AM  
3 votes:

fusillade762: He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?


This.

If I'm on the road at 5am, I have a hell of a lot better things to do than to get personally involved in a farking misdemeanor.
2013-10-15 07:23:54 AM  
2 votes:

Bungles: How on earth is it a defense to essentially not to do an investigation?


It's not that they can't do an investigation, it's that there's probably nothing they can investigate. There's a dead naked body with a gunshot hole in it, presumably no witnesses at 5am, and a shooter with a smoking gun who, if he has half a brain, will say no more than "He threatened me. I feared for my life".

With normal self-defense laws, that obviously wouldn't be enough to avoid jail - you'd have to prove you had a reason to fear for your life. With the way SYG laws are being interpreted, you don't; your word is good enough. Why we don't question the words of people who know they'd go to jail for murder... I don't know. You'll need to ask the gun nuts who get these laws passed.
2013-10-15 06:47:52 AM  
2 votes:
Sure Australians get arrested for streaking in public if caught, but we've never claimed to be the land of the free. Our constitution doesn't provide for particular rights or freedoms very much, and it's just sort of left that if there isn't a law against it you're possibly free to do it.

Just what are Americans free to do in the land of the free that is special? Running home naked would be normal behaviour in Germany.
2013-10-15 12:26:05 AM  
2 votes:
If I saw someone running naked at 5:00 am I think my first thought would be to help the guy because some angry husband was on his heels.

Since when does streaking end up in a confrontation with anyone who isn't a police officer?
2013-10-15 05:08:34 PM  
1 votes:

Lernaeus: I'm all for self-defense and gun owners' rights, but it seems this country is becoming more trigger happy every day.


For 100 years the country got deeper into  "you are legally obligated to run away from _______"

finally the laws start giving self esteem and self respect back to the people instead of taking it away from them and you complain?

The laws finally start giving the benefit of the doubt to the person being attacked instead of protecting the person attacking them and you see that as a problem?

Are you a criminal defense attorney?

Bleeding heart maybe?
2013-10-15 01:19:10 PM  
1 votes:
WTF> Serious how in the hell is this guy not charged with at least involuntary manslaughter?
2013-10-15 10:37:58 AM  
1 votes:

Khazar-Khum: OnlyM3: TuteTibiImperes [TotalFark]
To be fair, in Florida, you're 6x more likely to get shot if you're black than if you're white in general. Now tell the rest of the story. For those -fark it, for ALL- shootings. What color is the shooter most likely to be.

May I present...Duke Laguerre, the shooter.

[scontent-b-pao.xx.fbcdn.net image 540x720]


Oh shiat, the media will actually have to play the "white African-American" card.

/grabs popcorn
2013-10-15 10:21:45 AM  
1 votes:

MagSeven: Tat'dGreaser: skozlaw: Shooting a naked person you backtracked to confront is not self-defense.

Confront? That's an odd choice of words for not knowing what exactly happened

Unless naked guy is related to Barry Allen, car guy would have to go out of his way to get within his reach.
Car guy was probably trying to be a good Samaritan, but when you see naked people running down the street at night, It's probably best to keep your distance and call the police.


The progressive movement gets its political power from imposing exactly this kind of Catch-22 narrative and using their 20/20 hindsight to "prove" their superior intellect and morality. If someone intervened, then they were a vicious monster like Richard Jewell George Zimmerman that did everything wrong on purpose and should have minded their own business. If everyone ignored it and/or called the cops who arrived too late, then they were all cold-hearted monsters just like the people who ignored Kitty Genovese while she was screaming for help, and serve as proof that we need superior, progressive authorities to guide us.

/and like any other con game, it depends on our tendency to notice outliers and ignore the mainstream
//like ignoring all the other anecdotes about naked rape victims stumbling down the street being picked up by Good Samaritans and getting a faster and less embarrassing ride home
///not to mention how all those porno films start
2013-10-15 10:20:27 AM  
1 votes:
Hey I'm all in favor of the Second Amendment. I don't have any interest in gun control cause I know guns won't go anywhere. Not like I can't buy drugs easier than beer at 4 AM.

But gun nuts are a special, paranoid breed.
2013-10-15 10:19:01 AM  
1 votes:
So basically in Florida you can follow random strangers around until one of them gets pissed and just blow them away.

Let's call this "zimming."

"Any hobbies?"
"I'm a zimmer, man. Zimmed another one just last night."
2013-10-15 10:02:01 AM  
1 votes:

eurotrash: No I don't, for all I know it could be my nephew coming home late, locals doing a drunk prank so I get out of the house. There is no possession that is worth a persons life, nothing that a thief would want is something I wouldn't be able to replace.

In a civilized society we give the government monopoly on violence, this is done to avoid a lawless society where the strong prevail and weaker people cower. I know that you will never see it this way, in your world a TV is worth more to you than a fellow human beings life.


Surely you can at least see some irony in that sentence is your response to his scenario of three criminals breaking into one's house to steal things
2013-10-15 09:58:19 AM  
1 votes:

Misconduc: Confabulat: eurotrash: I know it's Florida but why is this law not repealed immediately?

There is no demand from Florida voters to repeal it.

Because for every 1 idiot that gets into an argument and gets killed, there are 9 others who use the law to its effect - in the case in my area 3 thugs broke into a house, the owner told them to stop and they continued to climb through a window - where the home owner shot the kid.
He gets off, the two kids that were involved got the murder charge for being there.

Its 3 am and three 18 yr old thugs break into your house, yeah you are sitting in a closet calling 911, no you shoot and ask questions later.


No I don't, for all I know it could be my nephew coming home late, locals doing a drunk prank so I get out of the house. There is no possession that is worth a persons life, nothing that a thief would want is something I wouldn't be able to replace.

In a civilized society we give the government monopoly on violence, this is done to avoid a lawless society where the strong prevail and weaker people cower. I know that you will never see it this way, in your world a TV is worth more to you than a fellow human beings life.
2013-10-15 09:38:45 AM  
1 votes:
The guy was such a nice kid, he assaulted his friend at the beach.

I doubt the interaction with the stranger was much different.
2013-10-15 09:33:04 AM  
1 votes:

Bungles: Are there any examples of stand your ground every being successfully used by a black person shooting a white?


I'm not doing anyones googling for them, but yes there have been cases. People have also benefitted from the law when they shot people of the same race, to include black and black incidents.

By the numbers there is alot of white on black happening.  Not surprising since whites (with their gun culture) own most of the weapons while blacks (with poverty being what it is) are involved in alot of the crime.

Ending the drug war, and dealing with the side effects of urbanization, would probably snap those numbers back into line.
2013-10-15 09:28:33 AM  
1 votes:

Wolf892: Obviously stand your ground applies here because seeing the massive swinging member of the black man caused the white fellow to feel incredibly threatened. He had no choice but to open fire to reassert his dominance of the situation.


The article doesn't say anything about Duke LaGuerre's ethnicity. The only information given besides his name is that he lives in Miami Gardens, a town with a predominantly black population. Did someone find his Facebook page or something else that shows he's white?

And since the shooting apparently happened during a fight, SYG may not have anything to do with the motorist's self-defense claim. It wasn't used in the Zimmerman case, despite all the Internet insistence that it must have been a factor.

All I'm getting from this story is a massive WTF so far. There's a LOT more detail that needs to be filled in before anyone can sensibly start drawing up sides and screaming about the injustice of what "really" happened.
2013-10-15 09:21:32 AM  
1 votes:

Tarkus: fusillade762: He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

Besides, "You can get away with murder in Florida"?


Because if you shoot someone who is on your chest and punching you in the face, while having defense and prosecution witnesses corroborate your story, and having already suffered a broken nose, which qualifies as grievous bodily harm, in a state that permits lethal force to prevent great bodily harm... it is murder!

How can you (and the south park creators) still be so farking ignorant?
2013-10-15 09:11:58 AM  
1 votes:
I still can't see any scenario where I'd turn my car around except to take some hilarious photos.

Don't people know how to mind their own business? Call 911 if you want. I wouldn't even do that.

Dumbasses with superhero complexes or something. Leave the naked people alone.
2013-10-15 09:04:47 AM  
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: He could have just called the police as well if he was really concerned. There is no sensible scenario that ends with this guy getting shot to death.


Like another guy said, I'd assume naked guy was being chased by an angry husband, in which case naked guy probably wouldn't want even more attention from the police. Unfortunately, pulling over to help the guy get where he was going while sparing him further embarrassment was exactly the wrong thing to do in this case, as naked guy was also punching his friends in the face earlier, and still in a punchy mood that he decided to take out on an armed motorist.

The real problem you seem to have is that you think people shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves unless they display psychic and/or precognitive superpowers, a standard that even trained police officers and CIA assassins are routinely shown to be unable to meet. I, and pretty much anyone who doesn't truly believe they live in their own little version of the Truman Show, disagree with that impossible standard, and will fight to prevent its imposition on the grounds that demanding people accomplish the impossible tends to result in people getting put in positions of authority based on their ability to deceive other people into thinking they accomplished the impossible, and these people inevitably start deceiving people into not paying attention to the amount of money they're embezzling, the number of people they're sleeping around with, and the number of people who end up imprisoned or killed for no greater crime than openly dissenting against the con artist's unquestionable authority.

/and yes, it does inevitably end in murder
//because the con artist's life eventually depends on keeping the con going
///and so anyone that points out that the Emperor has no clothes on becomes a deadly threat to the con artist, and gets dealt with accordingly
2013-10-15 08:54:23 AM  
1 votes:

Confabulat: This About That: Confabulat: But it's cool for white kids?

This About That: I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying that self preservation is also an important consideration.

I still don't get it. You're saying people are more likely to shoot a naked black guy running down the street than a naked white one?


Only if you are stupid and trigger happy.

Several years ago, outside Ft. Lewis (in Tillicompton, as we like to call it), I has an encounter with a naked black guy who was clearly strung out on something or other. Guy yanked open my truck door and started to reach in looking for... money? I was armed with my .40 cal (because... Tillicompton) and never even considered drawing my weapon--the guy wasn't even a threat in his condition. Grabbed his wrists, placed my boot flat against his chest, and pushed (rather forcefully) with my leg. Shut the truck, locked the door, and dialled 911 on the cell. Cops picked him up a few blocks away at the gas station across from Gertie's.

Generally speaking, unless he's been trained from his youth by someone whose surname is Gracie, a naked black man is not a threat and does not warrant a shooting... or even the drawing of a weapon. Then again, this happened in FL. No one expects the application of sense from anyone in FL.
2013-10-15 08:37:53 AM  
1 votes:

Misconduc: 1 idiot that gets into an argument and gets killed, there are 9 others who use the law to its effect


No, there's not. And the only study that ever showed that has been repeatedly and decisively shredded to bits in peer review.

Regardless, there is a distinct difference between shooting someone in the course of a home invasion and shooting someone on the side of the road after you stopped your car, turned around and confronted them.

A difference the law fails to recognize and a difference that makes it a bad law.

Very very few people have a problem with "castle doctrine" laws that allow you to shoot someone in your home if they broke in. Personally, I don't even have a problem with castle doctrine laws that allow you to shoot a clearly unarmed person committing a robbery in your home.

Only idiots, however, think those laws should expand to give you the "right" to shoot an unarmed, naked person on the street that you chose to confront of your own volition.
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-15 08:31:31 AM  
1 votes:

Misconduc: Its 3 am and three 18 yr old thugs break into your house, yeah you are sitting in a closet calling 911, no you shoot and ask questions later.


The obvious difference here, however, is there is ACTUAL DANGER involved.  It's a home invasion!

The naked guy running home doesn't represent actual danger... at least not the facts we know.  If the law can't distinguish between actual danger and "he needed killin'!" then it's a bad law.
2013-10-15 08:26:35 AM  
1 votes:

Confabulat: eurotrash: I know it's Florida but why is this law not repealed immediately?

There is no demand from Florida voters to repeal it.


Because for every 1 idiot that gets into an argument and gets killed, there are 9 others who use the law to its effect - in the case in my area 3 thugs broke into a house, the owner told them to stop and they continued to climb through a window - where the home owner shot the kid.
He gets off, the two kids that were involved got the murder charge for being there.

Its 3 am and three 18 yr old thugs break into your house, yeah you are sitting in a closet calling 911, no you shoot and ask questions later.
2013-10-15 08:23:05 AM  
1 votes:

Confabulat: I've spent most of my life in Florida and I've met my fair share of naked men roaming around in the middle of the night. Not a one of them is someone you'd want to have a conversation with.


I don't know, my first thought would be this person needs help

HotWingConspiracy: Well no, it could have been another GZim tough guy looking for a conflict that he would never ever ever seek out if he wasn't armed and prepped to kill.

He could have just called the police as well if he was really concerned. There is no sensible scenario that ends with this guy getting shot to death.


Ah, see we all have our preconceptions about everything.
2013-10-15 08:18:17 AM  
1 votes:

Tat'dGreaser: Confabulat: Then you call the police like a normal person would? No sane person would approach a naked stranger at 5 AM unless he was expecting trouble.

That's sad that your first thought would be this person is going to attack you.


I've spent most of my life in Florida and I've met my fair share of naked men roaming around in the middle of the night. Not a one of them is someone you'd want to have a conversation with.
2013-10-15 08:12:10 AM  
1 votes:
TuteTibiImperes [TotalFark]
To be fair, in Florida, you're 6x more likely to get shot if you're black than if you're white in general.
Now tell the rest of the story. For those -fark it, for ALL- shootings. What color is the shooter most likely to be.
2013-10-15 08:10:25 AM  
1 votes:
Zimmerman, the unhinged nut that shot a random bystander in "self defense" and now this guy.

It's becoming increasingly obvious that the only real reason to have a gun for protection is to protect yourself from all the people using their guns for protection.
2013-10-15 07:53:18 AM  
1 votes:
Ok, so if people are wearing hoods in solidarity for Trevon, does this mean people are going to start going out naked in solidarity for this unfortunate fellow?
Yes, MILFS, Cubans and college chicks of FL, drink a fifth and think that one over. ;-)
2013-10-15 07:38:52 AM  
1 votes:

FullMetalPanda: So is the family of the victim going to hire some mercenaries to torture his "friends" several months before letting they die of exposure?  I'm assuming they'll use one of the deli slicers on their fingers and toes first.  And a hot iron on standby to cauterize the wounds each time they slice.  Once the fingers and toes are gone, they'll move to the limbs.


They should reach out to Matthew Barnett, rapist (or so I've heard). I hear he has experience in these matters.
2013-10-15 07:30:03 AM  
1 votes:

Gunther: Bungles: How on earth is it a defense to essentially not to do an investigation?

It's not that they can't do an investigation, it's that there's probably nothing they can investigate. There's a dead naked body with a gunshot hole in it, presumably no witnesses at 5am, and a shooter with a smoking gun who, if he has half a brain, will say no more than "He threatened me. I feared for my life".

With normal self-defense laws, that obviously wouldn't be enough to avoid jail - you'd have to prove you had a reason to fear for your life. With the way SYG laws are being interpreted, you don't; your word is good enough. Why we don't question the words of people who know they'd go to jail for murder... I don't know. You'll need to ask the gun nuts who get these laws passed.


Sadly, there's a good chance this is accurate.

And Florida has already had several cases where gang-bangers basically walk up to their rivals, who they KNOW are packing, and shoot them...they say they "felt threatened", and basically walk, maybe with a minor gun charge.
2013-10-15 07:26:52 AM  
1 votes:

Bungles: Ok.... help a foreigner out here.


Surely "stand your ground" is a defense to present in court, or a reason for charges not to be brought because the prosecution services don't believe there's a chance of a conviction.

How on earth is it a defense to essentially not to do an investigation?




It isn't. But it's up to the state to bring charges.
Sometimes they consider it a cut and dry matter and spare themselves the expense of losing at trial.
2013-10-15 07:11:49 AM  
1 votes:
The shooting may have been justified or it may have not been. The real question is why aren't the police saying what happened if they're  not charging the shooter?
2013-10-15 07:00:06 AM  
1 votes:
The guy goes to the beach late at night with a male friend, ends up naked. Hmmm. Then they get in a fight, the naked guy punches his "friend" in the face, and friend steals his clothes. Then he runs home naked, and when someone stops to help him, he fights him too. Doesn't really sound like the angel the family makes him out to be. Not saying he needed to die, but not enough details.
2013-10-15 06:59:05 AM  
1 votes:

GregoryD: I'm sure the guy's penis moved toward him in a threatening manner. It being large and black the only thing left to do was to obviously shoot him.



If there's one type of person who you should be terrified of carrying a concealed weapon - and reason enough to draw your own arms - it's a butt-naked man jogging.
2013-10-15 06:38:50 AM  
1 votes:

Gunther: This shiat is gonna keep happening in states that pass SYG laws. Honestly, I'm surprised there's not more of it.


There probably is. But since it's white/white black/black murders no media outlet cares. The media just picked up Zimmerman cause there was outrage to be manufactured.
2013-10-15 06:34:59 AM  
1 votes:

abhorrent1: He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Everything is my business and I must get involved!




Its like that in smaller communities, and part of the reason they can manage problems in their own way. People don't ignore unusual things.

As for this incident, something seems to be missing from the story.
Snowflake punches his friend in the face, friend takes off with snowflakes cloths (because being nude at the beach all night is normal). Snowflake walks home nude, ends up in confrontation with curious resident (I'm guessing there's a few more punches involved) and killed.

The missing ingredient is probably drugs.

/I'm wondering if the motorists initial intention was to try and help this guy but he started to catch blows for his trouble.
/in retrospect the motorist probably should have called the cops,
/so they could do the shooting and everyone wins.
2013-10-15 06:20:52 AM  
1 votes:
Strange even for Florida, indeed.
Jeebus mahoney, Florida...

/Some cracker must have instinctively tried to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act.
//Shooter has not been charged, of course. wtf.
///Shooter is 29 and named Duke Laguerre and lives with mom.
2013-10-15 06:20:36 AM  
1 votes:

abhorrent1: He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Everything is my business and I must get involved committ homicide!

2013-10-15 06:14:44 AM  
1 votes:
He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Everything is my business and I must get involved!
2013-10-15 03:31:02 AM  
1 votes:

violentsalvation: I don't get it. If I see some naked dude running down the road I'm going to give him a couple cheers "woo no pants!", honk the horn a few times, and hope he doesn't wind up on a sex offender registry.


This.  It's just farkin' nudity when all you're doing is streaking.
2013-10-15 02:09:19 AM  
1 votes:

Confabulat: This About That: Yes you do. If you have a point, make it.

My point is that running down the street naked is a poor idea no matter what your race, but you'd also not expect to be killed for it. Tossed in jail, sure, but your "advice" to black kids not to run down the street because of how it looks is just sheer nonsense.


On the one hand, I think I should be free to do whatever the Hell I want. On the other hand, you should ordinarily try not to attract the attention of grizzly bears, piranhas, and racist idiots with guns. Ranting about how unfair and how racist it is encourages impressionable people to do stupid things in defense of doing whatever the Hell I want. Do you want to be responsible for the consequences? Sure, you can deny responsibility, since you probably won't know any of the victims, but you are still responsible. So am I. So, I'm throwing a post about not acting stupid where it will get you killed. Those who are inclined and capable can take on the dangerous animals and dangerous idiots, but these already know who they are. For the rest of us, not acting the fool is generally better.
2013-10-15 01:54:28 AM  
1 votes:

Ghastly: Is there anything that won't shoot you for in Florida?


Any action taken in the process of "being white" is one that you cannot be shot for.
2013-10-15 01:42:26 AM  
1 votes:

Confabulat: But it's cool for white kids?


This About That: I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying that self preservation is also an important consideration.

2013-10-15 01:29:54 AM  
1 votes:
Well, I got keelhauled awhile back for saying that young women can change how they are regarded and treated by changing how they dress and act. Just in cast there is a young black kid left who doesn't get it yet, let me suggest that the phrase "naked black man running down Hollywood Boulevard in south Florida" should, maybe, set off a little alarm in one's head. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying that self preservation is also an important consideration.
2013-10-15 12:50:23 AM  
1 votes:
'Merica!
2013-10-15 12:48:26 AM  
1 votes:
Penis envy. It's a gun thing.
2013-10-15 12:33:29 AM  
1 votes:

Tarkus: fusillade762: He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

Besides, "You can get away with murder in Florida"?


And apparently that 'proud' tradition continues.

FTFA: Laguerre has not been charged in the shooting.
2013-10-15 12:27:07 AM  
1 votes:

Tarkus: fusillade762: He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

Besides, "You can get away with murder in Florida"?


We'll see how stand your ground plays out on this one.  Normally I say, he's out of luck.  But then there is the guy who just got away shooting the next person he saw because some girls were picking on his daughter.
2013-10-15 12:24:26 AM  
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Some friend. With friends like that...
 
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