Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Chron)   Producers Guild of America names "Return of the King" best picture of 2003   (chron.com ) divider line
    More: Spiffy  
•       •       •

2474 clicks; posted to Main » on 18 Jan 2004 at 1:18 PM (12 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



186 Comments     (+0 »)
 


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2004-01-18 01:58:50 PM  
Litte = little
Lake = lack

I'm sure there are other mistakes, sorry.
 
2004-01-18 01:59:20 PM  
"Hmmm...I wonder if you realize you both just validated my previous comments?"

Well, damn! I am totally under your control. Now predict that there will be 2 dozen fresh donuts in my kitchen, please.
 
2004-01-18 02:00:18 PM  
Contrast this:

"Well, those are the reasons. About half of them. Perhaps I was curt in my expression of them but they're still valid."

With this:

"Sorry if I'm not riding with the herd on this."

You hate the movie only because it's popular. As I said, predictable almost to a fault.
 
2004-01-18 02:01:25 PM  
I agree, Normificus. Fellowship was my favorite of the series, mainly because Gandalf the Grey is my favorite character and I think Ian McKellen brought him to life wonderfully. I didn't like the character of the White so much, but Sir Ian still did a wonderful job.

There are a lot of movies with good acting, but in my opinion, they're horrible movies. The only thing in my mind that can contend with ROTK is Last Samurai. I guess I like to be entertained rather than look at actors bringing stupid roles to life. Which is rather hypocritical and contradictive, but then I do that a lot on Fark because it pisses people off and they shout triumphantly when they note my mistake, thinking I didn't remember my own words. But enough about that.

Didn't seem like you liked it at all, TheOtherGuyFromWham. But then, I am probably far behind because I type all this useless crap up. Out of curiosity, what kind of movies do you like? List a few favorites, if you don't mind. Just curious as to your dislike of the films.
 
2004-01-18 02:02:23 PM  
[Well, damn! I am totally under your control. Now predict that there will be 2 dozen fresh donuts in my kitchen, please.]

Stop following 'The Script' and starting thinking for yourself.
 
2004-01-18 02:04:22 PM  
If I hated the movie (which I don't) just because it's popular, I wouldn't have given reasons why I thought it was flawed.

Jebus, you people are like the pods from "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and my tympanic membrane is rupturing from the screeching. Sorry I criticized your film.
 
2004-01-18 02:05:18 PM  
BoneStorm - While I won't go into details, I am not heterosexual, and Sir Ian McKellen is a big idol of mine in part because of this.

That being said, I'm into the 'fandom' because I think it's funny, and I definitely picked up homoerotic vibes with Sam and Frodo.

Can't you just picture it going like this?

Sam: Rosey whateverherlastnameis! If I'd get married, it'd be to her!
Frodo: .... Oh...
 
2004-01-18 02:06:37 PM  
[If I hated the movie (which I don't) just because it's popular, I wouldn't have given reasons why I thought it was flawed.]

You have the SAME 'reasons' I've heard from every OTHER detractor from this series. I swear, you all follow the same script or someting.

At least the people who've read the books and disagree with how some things were translated from book to screen have valid arguments.
 
2004-01-18 02:07:27 PM  
Damn right, TheOtherGuyFromWhat (can I just call you Andrew?)! Now take your opinion and get the hell out of here!

Seriously, I love LOTR (both the books and the movies) and I do think they will win Oscars (and it better be PLENTY of Oscars), but you're entitled to your opinion (wrong though it is :p)
 
2004-01-18 02:08:58 PM  
Take my opinion and get the hell out of here. What a great discussion board.
 
2004-01-18 02:09:55 PM  
Kaylen: yeah, ok, I concede. Some of it made me think twice when I saw it on film and I guess it's naive to think that the movie has NO overtones... I just get riled when people think that the whole movie is about gay men.

Although, your little exchange between Sam and Frodo that you put in your post made me chuckle when I pictured Frodo's little face going all dejected at the end there.
 
2004-01-18 02:10:06 PM  
Jesus, Andrew, it was a lighthearted jab! Get a sense of humor!
 
2004-01-18 02:11:44 PM  
I think ROTK deserves an Oscar... probably won't get it.
Of course, last year the Academy gave up awards to African American actors, so why not kill the old "fantasy can't win Best Picture" idea as well?
 
2004-01-18 02:13:58 PM  
The Oscars aren't known for giving best picture to fantasy or sci/fi pics. Best director is likely.

What I wonder is what porn movie titles will be playing off the Lord of the Rings movies.

Driving Miss Daisy Chain had to be one of the best porn title derivitives ever.
 
2004-01-18 02:16:22 PM  
"Cold Mountain" was a crappy book and an equally crappy movie. I just couldn't get into either. "Big Fish," on the other hand, deserves the Best Picture nod--Burton's due, and this certainly has everything an audience wants.
 
2004-01-18 02:19:52 PM  
kill bill deserves to be nominated for best picture, or at the very least QT should get best director
 
2004-01-18 02:20:01 PM  
The movie was amazing and deserves Best Picture.

I think Andy Serkis will get overlooked because people don't realize what went in to making Gollum. That's a real shame, he had to perform that role twice for each picture.
 
2004-01-18 02:21:49 PM  
Weaver95 - since when did it become impossible to like a movie, and I mean genuinely enjoy seeing it, but not believe that it was the best picture of the entire year. You seem to confuse "not best picture" with "unmitigated disgust."
 
2004-01-18 02:22:38 PM  
Cheguarva12 - You're an idiot. The Matrix Trilogy beats LOTR anyday. It has much more depth, better concepts and better action. Oh, and the effects are way better. Did you see that part when Aragorn rides away from the gates of Mordor? It looked as cheesy as when they drive through New York in Seinfeld.

TheOtherGuyFromWham is absolutely right on. RoTK had some cool stuff, but Two Towers was better, and the whole trilogy stinks of being overly contrived,unbelieveable, and is way too gay. And some of the effects looked like butt.

"Ohhh, talking Trees will come and fight for us."
"Ohhh, now an indestrucatble army of the dead!"
"We cannot beat this army that stretches for a mile long with our 300 tired people. Oh look, its some pointy eared elfs and gandalf with some horsies! We win!"
The Army's a freakin MILE LONG! I cry shenanagins.
Gee Mr. Frodo, that sounds like a crock to me.
"You're the best friend ever Sam! Jump up and down on the bed with me while I am in my underwear! Even though I forsook you for an annoying schitzophrenic troll!"


Weaver95 - You're an idiot too.
"I am so great becuase I predicted that someone will find fault with this movie(for obvious reasons), and that automatically means that they are wrong. And since I can read their minds, I know that they absolutely don't like this movie just because they have the desire to be different."
Well I predict that someone will disagree with me.
And since I predict that, it automatically means that they are wrong, and I win! Yay me! Oh, and they are pathetic losers who need to be negative to think they are cool!


The Gay movies always win the academny awards.
Like when the Two Towers lost to Chicago last year.
So RoTK will win this year.

They're some decent movies, but they're not that good.
 
2004-01-18 02:29:47 PM  
DasCor-cor
This is you:
[image from hollywoodjesus.com too old to be available]
 
2004-01-18 02:30:27 PM  
Heck, TheOtherGuyFromWham may have been trollish, but Weaver95 truly is a troll. The fact that he keeps insisting that the only reason TOGFW hates ROTK is in order to be elite shows just how much Weaver95 is closed minded to the idea that someone just may not like ROTK with actual reasons. Sure, TOGFW gave some crappy reasons, but they were his reasons nonetheless.

I personally liked the film, and it perhaps is the best film of the year. Although the only reason it might win that is by default, since almost no other good movies came out this year. And please, if you're one of those ppl raving about how the trilogy is the best thing since sliced bread, shut the fark up. The movies were simply very well-made, well-produced films based on an incredibly popular book trilogy, involving some incredibly simple themes and epic battle scenes. Just some very good movies, but nothing to write home about.
 
2004-01-18 02:30:52 PM  
And what the hell is JAckson doing next? King Kong? Jebus.

I think this is his "Now that I have all the money in the world I'm gonna make the movie I've wanted to do since I was 5 years old" movie. I read somewhere the original king kong was his inspiration to do movies.

Once can only hope he takes from both previous movies, big monkey biting off heads and boobies shots.
 
2004-01-18 02:31:25 PM  
yup, kill bill is twice the movie that any of the LOTR or matrix movies were
 
2004-01-18 02:32:02 PM  
[Weaver95 - You're an idiot too.]

Even you're insults are lame. C'mon - 'idiot' is the *best* troll comment you can come up with? Please. I'm used to being insulted by a MUCH better class of farker than you!

[since when did it become impossible to like a movie, and I mean genuinely enjoy seeing it, but not believe that it was the best picture of the entire year. You seem to confuse "not best picture" with "unmitigated disgust." ]

No, I just see the same excuses from the same type of people all the time. blahblahGAYblahblahSPECIALEFFECTSblahblahSTUPIDMASSESblahblah.

I mean, how can I possibly be expected to take them seriously?
 
2004-01-18 02:32:58 PM  
[Heck, TheOtherGuyFromWham may have been trollish, but Weaver95 truly is a troll. The fact that he keeps insisting that the only reason TOGFW hates ROTK is in order to be elite shows just how much Weaver95 is closed minded to the idea that someone just may not like ROTK with actual reasons. Sure, TOGFW gave some crappy reasons, but they were his reasons nonetheless.]

I knew you would say that...
 
2004-01-18 02:36:19 PM  
The acting was phenomonal.

That's simply not true.

A lot of the acting was perfectly fine, I'll give you that. But virtually anyone whose character was supposed to be happy was blatantly guilty of overacting.

This set the tone of the movie from the very first scene, when Deagol and Smeagol acted as if getting a fish hooked on a line was the greatest thing that had ever happened in the history of the world.

It continued throughout the movie, whenever any hobbit met any other hobbit, for example.
 
2004-01-18 02:36:30 PM  
Wow, I've never seen FARK so collectively attack a guy that didn't like a certain film. Even in the liberal/convservative debates. Geez, give him a break.

The movie was good. But not the best film ever made. That would be Pulp Fiction.
 
2004-01-18 02:38:04 PM  
Weaver seems to have some sort of precogniscence that we cannot battle.

Ok, skip all the 'opinions' about the endless battles that were all the same and the out of the blue saviors that were never set up or the sorry comic relief. Those are just opinions. Just answer the question as to why the main (personified) villain just up and disappeared, his fate to be shown only in the DVD? That's a huge plot point that even Chris Lee is pissed about. Not to mention that he never really had a motivation in the first place.
 
2004-01-18 02:39:17 PM  
TheGrayCat
"Oscar predictions:
Best Supporting Actor - Ken Wantanabe, The Last Samurai"


Hell, yes.
 
2004-01-18 02:41:12 PM  
The movie was good. But not the best film ever made. That would be Pulp Fiction.

Please. Pulp Fiction was a well-made example of pulp fiction.
 
2004-01-18 02:45:58 PM  
(First scene of Return of the Jedi)

Imperial Officer: "Hey, remember when Vader just slunk away between the last film and this one?"

Other Imperial Officer: "Yeah, that sucked."

Imperial Officer: "Well, do we have any sort of leader, an antagonist if you will?"

Other Imperial Officer: "Well, we still have this big glowing female genitalia thing going for us. As long as those Ewoks don't throw a ring into that volcano over there, we're fine."

Imperial Officer: "Oh screw it then, as long as we have a lot of stormtroopers to attack those humans for no reason, we're good. Ignore the volcano do-hicky"

Other Imperial Officer: "Will do."
 
2004-01-18 02:47:44 PM  
I predict Weaver 95 is going to cry like a biatch within 4 minutes of anyone expressing something other than complete love and devotion for LOTR. I thought the first of the three was great; it had characters and plot. The second started to turn into a cgi action movie, and the third was entertaining, but it wasn't nearly as special as the first one.
 
2004-01-18 02:48:27 PM  
TheGrayCat
"Oscar predictions:
Best Supporting Actor - Ken Wantanabe, The Last Samurai"

Hell, yes.


If he'd let the sword go a couple more inches, I'd say hell yeah.
 
2004-01-18 02:49:36 PM  
WHAT!

Have they not seen "Trailer Trash Nurses Seven?"

Words are insufficent to describe the acting in that movie.
 
2004-01-18 02:53:32 PM  
Spiffy? Unless one of the people involved in the making of the movie submitted the link, "Spiffy" is unwarranted. At very least indicative of the sheep mentality that drives top ten(whatever) countdowns like TRL, asshats paying extra for the privilege of wearing a Nike/Addidas/whatever logo on a standard tshirt.

There is nothing wrong with the film/music industry giving recognition among its own ranks. The general public giving two shiats about whether their favorite film or actor/musician won an award is pure asshattery!
 
2004-01-18 02:54:17 PM  
Here's a thought about the oscars. "The English Patient" won oscars, and it's a boring piece of pretentious crap.

Who cares if it wins an oscar? Ya don't need a bunch of 70 year old failed actors to validate your feeling about how much you love a movie.

I love Army of Darkness. But it didn't win any oscars. So what? I thought Forrest Gump was a manipulative piece of claptrap, but it won oscars.

And I love Return of the King. I don't really see any overly gay overtones. The hobbit 'culture' might be a bit more touchy feely and friendly than our own, but it doesn't make them gay. THe only thing I didn't like about ROTK was the constant fadeouts. I understand that Jackson had filmed and processed those 'endings' and wasn't about to reedit them to properly cut from scene to scene again. Hopefully he'll fix that for the EE so it doesn't keep fading out. That's a waste of the audience's time to watch it do that.
 
2004-01-18 02:57:22 PM  
If only they'd ended it when they get back to the shire, and not 15 minutes later, and had put more battle scenes in (with proper magic, not just I'm going to use my stick to shine a light at things ripped off from panzer dragoon) then I'd be very happy.
Still should win best picture though.
 
2004-01-18 03:01:15 PM  
[I predict Weaver 95 is going to cry like a biatch within 4 minutes of anyone expressing something other than complete love and devotion for LOTR.]

Nah. Just laught my ass off at y'all. Really, it's rare that I see such a predictable group of people.
 
2004-01-18 03:02:14 PM  
If I ever meet Peter Jackson or anyone else involved with the making of the trilogy, I'm going to give them a big, fat, sloppy, wet kiss, because they have reinstilled my faith in what/how movies should be. Y'all have been warned! :D
 
2004-01-18 03:08:56 PM  
Why does everyone keep saying that RoTK has gay overtones? Clearly, the relationship between Sam and Frodo was indicative of the officer/bagman relationship in the British Army at the time, when Tolkien had served.
 
2004-01-18 03:10:40 PM  
I've never seen any LOTR. I saw about 5 minutes of one of the Harry Potter movies. Not my thing, and I will freely admit to not having much of an imagination. But...The fans of these series, much like Star Wars fans, drive me nuts. It's okay to dislike these movies, we're not gonna go to hell because of it. I do, however, find it slightly amusing that I've heard no less than 2 entertainment/media types refer to these as nerd or geek movies.
 
2004-01-18 03:13:30 PM  
DasCor-cor

"Ohhh, talking Trees will come and fight for us."
"Ohhh, now an indestrucatble army of the dead!"
"We cannot beat this army that stretches for a mile long with our 300 tired people. Oh look, its some pointy eared elfs and gandalf with some horsies! We win!"
The Army's a freakin MILE LONG! I cry shenanagins.
Gee Mr. Frodo, that sounds like a crock to me.
"You're the best friend ever Sam! Jump up and down on the bed with me while I am in my underwear! Even though I forsook you for an annoying schitzophrenic troll!"


What are you....6?
 
2004-01-18 03:15:57 PM  
[It's okay to dislike these movies, we're not gonna go to hell because of it. I do, however, find it slightly amusing that I've heard no less than 2 entertainment/media types refer to these as nerd or geek movies.]

What I find even more interesting than that is hollywood's total mystification at how the LOTR trilogy could be such a huge success without a single car chase or naked girl scene.

Kinda says volumes about how most hollywood moguls think. Believe me, alot of studios are VERY jealous of Wingnut productions right now. Not that they'll admit it in public mind you. But they're looking at all those box office returns and scheming to rake in a haul like that.
 
2004-01-18 03:17:32 PM  
Actually the reason I think the Academy will have troubles giving ROTK the nod is the fact that it was made in New Zealand...and employed mostly New Zealanders. Not Hollywood.

Which is, ironically, what helped make it so good
 
2004-01-18 03:20:47 PM  
[Why does everyone keep saying that RoTK has gay overtones?
Clearly, the relationship between Sam and Frodo was indicative of the officer/bagman relationship in the British Army at the time, when Tolkien had served.]

I can think of two reasons:

1. Few people bother to understand the context of the film or the author of the material it's based on. They see a bunch of strong male leads in an epic story and (since they're deep down all really 6 years old) automatically think 'GAY'. They can't help it, it's just the way they've been programmed over the years.

2. It's in the 'Ring Trilogy Haters Script Book'. Follow along in the chapter index, it's says right there on page one that everyone in the movie was 'gay'. They're just following the directions, that's all.
 
2004-01-18 03:22:07 PM  
Weaver95

What I find even more interesting than that is hollywood's total mystification at how the LOTR trilogy could be such a huge success without a single car chase or naked girl scene.

Kinda says volumes about how most hollywood moguls think. Believe me, alot of studios are VERY jealous of Wingnut productions right now. Not that they'll admit it in public mind you. But they're looking at all those box office returns and scheming to rake in a haul like that.


Excellent point! See my "made in New Zealand" post above
 
2004-01-18 03:22:51 PM  
The idea that Sam and Frodo represent something homosexual is the most stupid idea possible. So stop thinking it, it is damaging your brain.

At the moment of their imminent demise, Sam says what's most pressing on his mind "I want to marry Rosie".

End of discussion, idiots. NEXT!
 
2004-01-18 03:26:36 PM  
Bonzy20 - Yeah, I saw your comments after I refreshed my screen.

Hollywood just isn't able think creatively any longer. The success of the LOTR *could* signal the begining of the end for hollywood. I could be wrong, but at the very least this could start a trend towards actual decent movie scripts getting a chance to be made.
 
2004-01-18 03:30:18 PM  
horseshiat

lord of the rings sucks
 
2004-01-18 03:32:32 PM  
"How can it be bullshiat to state a preference?!?"

/High Fidelity
 
Displayed 50 of 186 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Newest | Show all



This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
On Twitter








In Other Media
  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report