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2013-10-15 07:36:18 AM  

HooskerDoo: redhook: calbert: [cdn.speednik.com image 640x413]

/obscure?

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Oh no...tell me that's not how she ended up.

/better than dead, I guess...
 
2013-10-15 07:38:00 AM  

IbiEvacua: As a Chicago downtown native, I went to college in a farm town outside of St. Louis, and I had plenty of backroads to explore. I'd be a liar if I said I never ran down them, drunk as piss, 2 in the morning at 95mph. I got lucky, she didn't. Still, I never had passengers when I tried to pull shiat like that. Goddamn shame, but she knew what she was doing.


Ya, basically my friends and I were mostly lucky to get out of high school alive.  Not even drunk driving, just driving like maniacs.

An Aspen station wagon really shouldn't do 90 on twisty back road, but it can...
 
2013-10-15 07:47:27 AM  

DrPainMD: Nogale: Surprised it was a girl. Also surprised she was an honor student.

In Paw Paw, Michigan, "honor student" may have a different meaning that you're used to.


She was graded on a curve. Twice...
 
2013-10-15 07:48:11 AM  
i.imgur.com


/couldn't find a pic of "stunt jump failed'. That would have been really funny.
 
2013-10-15 07:54:01 AM  
As a resident of the area, I can safely say that Paw Paw has a noticeably higher rate of vehicular incidents than the surrounding region.  It may have to do with the fact that the town seems to lie on the border of state jurisdictions and therefore all road maintenance falls into "This is your guys' problem."  "No, this is your guys' problem."

It's the same town that spawned this story a few years ago.
 
2013-10-15 07:59:16 AM  
img.fark.net

Joey Hand got plenty of air in Gran Am.
 
2013-10-15 08:04:23 AM  

Betep: Radioactive Ass: Even the General Lee didn't have the flight characteristics of the General Lee (as seen on TV anyway) they trashed so many Dodge Chargers it wasn't even funny (I recall reading that they went through about 140 of them all told).

Told?


Idiom - all told
totaled up; including all parts
 
2013-10-15 08:07:44 AM  
Wow, no Lethal Weapon 4 references?

images.stanzapub.com
 
2013-10-15 08:09:13 AM  

Nogale: Surprised it was a girl


Could you explain your surprise, please? Does a uterus convey special driving powers somehow?
 
2013-10-15 08:14:42 AM  

Publikwerks: Wow, no Lethal Weapon 4 references?


Yes there was
 
2013-10-15 08:20:56 AM  

Radioactive Ass: Even the General Lee didn't have the flight characteristics of the General Lee (as seen on TV anyway) they trashed so many Dodge Chargers it wasn't even funny (I recall reading that they went through about 140 of them all told).


Apparently that make and model is somewhat rare now due to how many they destroyed on the show. The first time I saw some shots of the vehicle after a jump I remember thinking holy crap these guys are nuts to be doing this. I've also seen shots of the vehicles all smashed up and piled up in a salvage yard. Kinda drives the point home.
 
2013-10-15 08:36:07 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Nogale: Surprised it was a girl

Could you explain your surprise, please? Does a uterus convey special driving powers somehow?


I think it's testicles that convey extra levels of recklessness, generally... Or, societal influences or whatever nonsense you like to blame... But, generally, when you read about someone doing something stupid in a car, like trying to jump a bridge Dukes of Hazzard style, it's usually a safe bet that it's a male doing it... Also, they're likely to be either teenaged or drunk or both at the time...
 
2013-10-15 08:47:53 AM  
you don't need to use the claw When you pick a pear of the big pawpaw. Have I given you a clue?

img20.imageshack.us

Golly, thanks, Baloo.
 
2013-10-15 08:50:54 AM  

JonnyBGoode: unlikely: Well there's your problem right there. The General Lee was a 69 Dodge Charger. Completely different flight dynamics from a post-airbag Pontiac.

Now, if it had been a 1974 Dodge Monaco with a 440 cubic inch plant, she might have stood a chance.


It would also need cop shocks and cop tires... But it'd run good on regular gas.
 
2013-10-15 08:54:10 AM  
Death By Misadventure
 
2013-10-15 09:22:11 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Nogale: Surprised it was a girl

Could you explain your surprise, please? Does a uterus convey special driving powers somehow?


It does often seem to grant better common sense to the average teenage girl than you find in the average teenage boy.
 
2013-10-15 09:32:36 AM  

RobSeace: Quantum Apostrophe: Nogale: Surprised it was a girl

Could you explain your surprise, please? Does a uterus convey special driving powers somehow?

I think it's testicles that convey extra levels of recklessness, generally... Or, societal influences or whatever nonsense you like to blame... But, generally, when you read about someone doing something stupid in a car, like trying to jump a bridge Dukes of Hazzard style, it's usually a safe bet that it's a male doing it... Also, they're likely to be either teenaged or drunk or both at the time...


iirc (casts mind back to Biology degree) males employ riskier strategies in life as the payoffs (sexual success and fathering offsping carrying their genes) are greater than for women - women can only carry and raise a certain number of children, while men can father a child at every sexual encounter

that strategy of risk taking is applied across the board, hence the spike in auto accidents among 20 something men etc etc
 
2013-10-15 09:55:16 AM  
IMHO, don't try anything in anything made after '73 in the U.S.  Even if launch is okay, Landing is gonna be messy. Drifters and that other "beer can" cars need not apply.Cars over the last 40 years are made to crumple, not shrug it off. Driver safety is now paramount, not as good as "The old days". In the old days, you could hit afire hydrant, and still drive home. Nowadays, hit a speed bump wrong, and have to have it towed to a shop. Sure, older cars are more durable, don't last as long or perform as well, but if I recall the time I flipped my mustang, causing a fractured spine and 27 stitches, In a newer car, I'd just been left on the ground. I do have a 2010 car, and a '73 car. While the '73 has a lot of memories, the 2010 is the comfortable choice for day to day, while the 73 is good for weekends,
 
2013-10-15 09:59:48 AM  
thepriceisrightlosinghorn.wav
 
2013-10-15 09:59:48 AM  

AaronSynn: Why would you name a town 'Paw Paw'?

Is that redneck for 'grandfather'?


it's the indian name for some kind of local fruit...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimina_triloba

not that you really care, but the more you know and all that...
 
VTZ
2013-10-15 10:00:19 AM  

WhiskeyBoy: MadAzza: She didn't even make the launch; she lost control before she got to the bridge, and rolled the car several times.

fusillade762: An 18-year-old woman is dead after a tragic car accident in a small town in western Michigan that also left her two passengers injured.

That word...

Yes, it was an accident. That word tells the reader that she didn't crash deliberately. Driving recklessly isn't the same as crashing deliberately.

Why do so many people have trouble understanding this?

WRONG!
An accurate headline would read:
"An 18-year-old woman is dead after negligent driving resulted in a crash in a small town in western Michigan that also left her two passengers injured."

The reader still knows she didn't crash deliberately with the word negligent.

Accidents happen by chance with no apparent cause.  A tree falling on your car is an accident.  Skidding on black ice and hitting a guardrail is an accident.
Negligence is failure to take proper care in doing something.  Talking on your cell phone and applying makeup while driving resulting in a crash is negligent driving.  Running a red light and crashing in to a car is negligent driving.  Speeding recklessly on a dirt road in an attempt to jump a bridge is negligent driving.


I agree with this guy. I was an insurance agent up to last year (quit because my true passion is IT,) and I can tell you that an accident is always better than recklessness. In this case, she was very much reckless. Although close, negligence would be better suited had she been a stunt woman, meaning she was trying to do something she knew how to do, but failed to do it correctly because she wasn't careful enough. Reckless means she did something without actually weighing the consequences should something go wrong. Very close meanings though, but in law enforcements and insurance terms, they could mean the difference between you being at fault or not.
 
2013-10-15 10:18:11 AM  
According to this article, she had been tearing up and down this road several times over the past week or two...
http://www.woodtv.com/news/local/sw-mich/emily-rose-lauer-killed-try in g-to-jump-64th-avenue-bridge
 
2013-10-15 10:28:39 AM  
Sounds like she made the jump but failed to stick the landing.  That part is important.
 
2013-10-15 10:29:09 AM  
having friends in the car can convince the driver to be a show-off.

also, i blame Hollywood and TV for pushing this silly and unnatural strong female lead stereotype.
 
2013-10-15 10:34:28 AM  
we've all tried the same thing at some point in our lives... shame it went badly for this group.
 
2013-10-15 10:39:41 AM  

MechaPyx: Radioactive Ass: Even the General Lee didn't have the flight characteristics of the General Lee (as seen on TV anyway) they trashed so many Dodge Chargers it wasn't even funny (I recall reading that they went through about 140 of them all told).

Apparently that make and model is somewhat rare now due to how many they destroyed on the show. The first time I saw some shots of the vehicle after a jump I remember thinking holy crap these guys are nuts to be doing this. I've also seen shots of the vehicles all smashed up and piled up in a salvage yard. Kinda drives the point home.


I think it was something like 330 cars totaled so far for the show and movie.  Every time I see one of em after a jump it makes me sick considering that the next "dream car" I want to build as a garage toy...unrestored solid Chargers are going for a mint now.
 
2013-10-15 10:39:58 AM  
yeah i love the comments section of the article: 'this could happen to any of us'.

REALLY? there are more of you there stupid enough to try flying across space in a 2000 pound metal auto?
 
2013-10-15 10:40:59 AM  
"Paw Paw for Jesus!"

/obscure?
 
2013-10-15 10:47:48 AM  
"Plastic flowers on the highway
Bits of glass for the machine to sweep away
Had to pass it on my way to where I was going
For the next few minutes, I drove a little slower"
--Drive By Truckers
 
2013-10-15 10:53:05 AM  

unlikely: Well there's your problem right there. The General Lee was a 69 Dodge Charger. Completely different flight dynamics from a post-airbag Pontiac.


Slowclap.jpg
 
2013-10-15 11:11:10 AM  

bugmn99: Can we get a 'shop of Darwin leaning out the window of the General Lee in mid-air? Too lazy.


We could get a lot of mileage out of such an image.
 
2013-10-15 11:50:59 AM  

doxer: Every time I see one of em after a jump it makes me sick considering that the next "dream car" I want to build as a garage toy...unrestored solid Chargers are going for a mint now.


Look on the bright side. The only reason you think it's your dream car is because of all the ones that flew and crashed. If the General Lee were an AMC Pacer you'd probably wish you had one of those, instead.
 
2013-10-15 11:53:18 AM  

Eat More Possum: Betep: Radioactive Ass: Even the General Lee didn't have the flight characteristics of the General Lee (as seen on TV anyway) they trashed so many Dodge Chargers it wasn't even funny (I recall reading that they went through about 140 of them all told).

Told?

Idiom - all told
totaled up; including all parts


No.
Tolled.
 
2013-10-15 12:35:10 PM  
I used to take my 92 Beretta jumping in that area.. there were some spots where if you hit the bridge right at about 50 or so, you could easily get two wheels off at a time.  That was about as much fun as I would go with.  I knew of a lot of spots all over Kalamazoo county where you could very easily get two wheels off, but it's not like you'd go for BIG AIR like the General.
 
2013-10-15 12:37:51 PM  
Hey, it's 10 feet. Bob Hope could jump this in his golf cart. See, watch, I can spit across it.

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2013-10-15 12:56:07 PM  

MechaPyx: Radioactive Ass: Even the General Lee didn't have the flight characteristics of the General Lee (as seen on TV anyway) they trashed so many Dodge Chargers it wasn't even funny (I recall reading that they went through about 140 of them all told).

Apparently that make and model is somewhat rare now due to how many they destroyed on the show. The first time I saw some shots of the vehicle after a jump I remember thinking holy crap these guys are nuts to be doing this. I've also seen shots of the vehicles all smashed up and piled up in a salvage yard. Kinda drives the point home.


USA! USA! USA!
 
2013-10-15 01:05:00 PM  

VTZ: WhiskeyBoy: MadAzza: She didn't even make the launch; she lost control before she got to the bridge, and rolled the car several times.

fusillade762: An 18-year-old woman is dead after a tragic car accident in a small town in western Michigan that also left her two passengers injured.

That word...

Yes, it was an accident. That word tells the reader that she didn't crash deliberately. Driving recklessly isn't the same as crashing deliberately.

Why do so many people have trouble understanding this?

WRONG!
An accurate headline would read:
"An 18-year-old woman is dead after negligent driving resulted in a crash in a small town in western Michigan that also left her two passengers injured."

The reader still knows she didn't crash deliberately with the word negligent.

Accidents happen by chance with no apparent cause.  A tree falling on your car is an accident.  Skidding on black ice and hitting a guardrail is an accident.
Negligence is failure to take proper care in doing something.  Talking on your cell phone and applying makeup while driving resulting in a crash is negligent driving.  Running a red light and crashing in to a car is negligent driving.  Speeding recklessly on a dirt road in an attempt to jump a bridge is negligent driving.

I agree with this guy. I was an insurance agent up to last year (quit because my true passion is IT,) and I can tell you that an accident is always better than recklessness. In this case, she was very much reckless. Although close, negligence would be better suited had she been a stunt woman, meaning she was trying to do something she knew how to do, but failed to do it correctly because she wasn't careful enough. Reckless means she did something without actually weighing the consequences should something go wrong. Very close meanings though, but in law enforcements and insurance terms, they could mean the difference between you being at fault or not.


Thank you for that concise response and I want you to know that you have educated me and I will not misuse these two terms in the future. This is one of the times the internet is positive for a minute.
 
2013-10-15 01:05:00 PM  

Nogale: Surprised it was a girl. Also surprised she was an honor student.


aaaawwww 'Murica, with it's best and brightest that are dumb as shiat ;)

//Also surprised it was a girl :)
 
2013-10-15 01:26:28 PM  

DrHST: [img.fark.net image 667x420]

Joey Hand got plenty of air in Gran Am.


Ironically, that was a Pontiac GTO being driven by Paul Edwards that tapped Joey into the grass.

CSB:

That was one wicked accident.  I was at that event in the pits after having given some technical support to a friend who worked for a team there as the engine guy from the manufacturer, and getting a season hard card as part payment {:-D.  Joey's team was a few stalls down, and from the track cameras on the pit box screens it was really a tense few moments.  Everyone let out this big, literally audible "wheeeew" when Joey finally got out after (apparently) getting his Hans stuck in the window netting.

Joey's a great guy, met and talked with him a few times at ALMS events... great he made it to DTM, they've been knocking on the door to podium a few times now.

/CSB
 
2013-10-15 01:51:39 PM  
should've had a grand national.
 
2013-10-15 02:18:26 PM  

soakitincider: should've had a grand national.


I live a town in Indiana with a population of around 12,000 and when I graduated high school in 2002 there were at least eight Grand Nationals here.
 
2013-10-15 02:32:31 PM  

Betep: Eat More Possum: Betep: Radioactive Ass: Even the General Lee didn't have the flight characteristics of the General Lee (as seen on TV anyway) they trashed so many Dodge Chargers it wasn't even funny (I recall reading that they went through about 140 of them all told).

Told?

Idiom - all told
totaled up; including all parts

No.
Tolled.


Nope... You're wrong...
 
2013-10-15 02:47:56 PM  

Seraphym: DrHST: [img.fark.net image 667x420]

Joey Hand got plenty of air in Gran Am.

Ironically, that was a Pontiac GTO being driven by Paul Edwards that tapped Joey into the grass.

CSB:

That was one wicked accident.  I was at that event in the pits after having given some technical support to a friend who worked for a team there as the engine guy from the manufacturer, and getting a season hard card as part payment {:-D.  Joey's team was a few stalls down, and from the track cameras on the pit box screens it was really a tense few moments.  Everyone let out this big, literally audible "wheeeew" when Joey finally got out after (apparently) getting his Hans stuck in the window netting.

Joey's a great guy, met and talked with him a few times at ALMS events... great he made it to DTM, they've been knocking on the door to podium a few times now.

/CSB



CSB indeed!

I forgot that Edwards GTO was in on that.

Hand and Auberlen seem really cool, at least from what I can tell from TV anyways.
 
2013-10-15 03:04:55 PM  

Ex-Texan: IMHO, don't try anything in anything made after '73 in the U.S.  Even if launch is okay, Landing is gonna be messy. Drifters and that other "beer can" cars need not apply.Cars over the last 40 years are made to crumple, not shrug it off. Driver safety is now paramount, not as good as "The old days". In the old days, you could hit afire hydrant, and still drive home. Nowadays, hit a speed bump wrong, and have to have it towed to a shop. Sure, older cars are more durable, don't last as long or perform as well, but if I recall the time I flipped my mustang, causing a fractured spine and 27 stitches, In a newer car, I'd just been left on the ground. I do have a 2010 car, and a '73 car. While the '73 has a lot of memories, the 2010 is the comfortable choice for day to day, while the 73 is good for weekends,


I flipped a 1984 BMW not that many years back.  It was a little more dukes of hazard than I would have liked, actually.

Hit some ice, lost the rear end into the ditch on the side of the road... nearly recovered, only to have the ditch end in a ramp up to a driveway.  I got air, rolled the car onto it's top and landed in the ditch on the other side of the driveway.  The car was FINE.  Granted, the windshield had given up and flooded the upside down car with muddy water, and the body had seen better days... BUT... tow truck gets there, flips her out of the ditch and goes to hook up the car, and I say wait. Let me try something.  Get in messy car.  Start engine.  Drive home.  She was a mess, but it takes a lot to kill an old car.

/csb

/don't make them like that anymore
//the '05 in the driveway would be a crumpled beer can in that same accident
///but it has ice tires on it during the winter.  I learn.
 
2013-10-15 03:25:35 PM  
Well it was 20 after midnight, they were going 85
She was barely out of high school wanting bad to feel alive
Just a two lane stretch of black top, a snakey stretch of road
When the wind blew threw the wing vents it was clear and fresh and cold
Well the driver killed the headlights and he put the throttle down
When they hit the railroad crossing they were 5ft off the ground
Just a screaming through the midnight, till they came down again
Well the front tire hit a bar ditch, they went end over end.
 
2013-10-15 03:44:22 PM  

Kahabut: Ex-Texan: IMHO, don't try anything in anything made after '73 in the U.S.  Even if launch is okay, Landing is gonna be messy. Drifters and that other "beer can" cars need not apply.Cars over the last 40 years are made to crumple, not shrug it off. Driver safety is now paramount, not as good as "The old days". In the old days, you could hit afire hydrant, and still drive home. Nowadays, hit a speed bump wrong, and have to have it towed to a shop. Sure, older cars are more durable, don't last as long or perform as well, but if I recall the time I flipped my mustang, causing a fractured spine and 27 stitches, In a newer car, I'd just been left on the ground. I do have a 2010 car, and a '73 car. While the '73 has a lot of memories, the 2010 is the comfortable choice for day to day, while the 73 is good for weekends,

I flipped a 1984 BMW not that many years back.  It was a little more dukes of hazard than I would have liked, actually.

Hit some ice, lost the rear end into the ditch on the side of the road... nearly recovered, only to have the ditch end in a ramp up to a driveway.  I got air, rolled the car onto it's top and landed in the ditch on the other side of the driveway.  The car was FINE.  Granted, the windshield had given up and flooded the upside down car with muddy water, and the body had seen better days... BUT... tow truck gets there, flips her out of the ditch and goes to hook up the car, and I say wait. Let me try something.  Get in messy car.  Start engine.  Drive home.  She was a mess, but it takes a lot to kill an old car.

/csb

/don't make them like that anymore
//the '05 in the driveway would be a crumpled beer can in that same accident
///but it has ice tires on it during the winter.  I learn.


Modern cars crunch up real bad so your skeleton doesn't. You got lucky. Something will break when a car crashes, and if it isn't the car, a guardrail, or a swamp, it's you.
 
2013-10-15 06:37:19 PM  
FTA: We should all drive safer. This could happen to any of us. - Abigail (@AbbyyyyK) October 14, 2013

Uhhh, no it won't. Not unless we try it.
 
2013-10-15 09:19:06 PM  
Girl at my school died that way (not same area, or bridge, just trying to get air).

Year later bunch of kids got hurt on the same jump rolling their car.

High school kids do stupid things for kicks, feel invincible, film at 11

/every yearbook has a memorium page for the kid that died driving to fast
 
2013-10-16 10:40:48 AM  

Big Ramifications: WHAT A farkING IDIOT.

The journalist, that is.

1. Give a description about the facts. This can be as vague as you want. On the other hand, make stuff up if you want.
2. Hit the internet and quote some shiat from the victim's friends on Facebook or Twitter. Maybe gank a couple of FB photos and refer to them as "happier times."

Every farking "tragic death" story is starting to read the same. Mainstream news media is dead. NTTAWWT.


I am gay
 
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