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2013-10-14 08:57:35 PM
Veteran of the Cola Wars:

For me, it is a Tall Dark Stranger. Go ahead. Google it. You will not find it. It is a very old, pretty much forgotten drink from a hell of a long time ago. Hemingway loved them and drank them copiously.

http://thedevilledegg-blog.com/2013/02/01/friday-magic-tall-dark-str an ger/
 
2013-10-14 08:59:29 PM

I'm just asking questions: Veteran of the Cola Wars:

For me, it is a Tall Dark Stranger. Go ahead. Google it. You will not find it. It is a very old, pretty much forgotten drink from a hell of a long time ago. Hemingway loved them and drank them copiously.

http://thedevilledegg-blog.com/2013/02/01/friday-magic-tall-dark-str an ger/


NOW try it with safe search OFF!!!
 
2013-10-14 08:59:54 PM

I'm just asking questions: Veteran of the Cola Wars:

For me, it is a Tall Dark Stranger. Go ahead. Google it. You will not find it. It is a very old, pretty much forgotten drink from a hell of a long time ago. Hemingway loved them and drank them copiously.

http://thedevilledegg-blog.com/2013/02/01/friday-magic-tall-dark-str an ger/


That's something, but that isn't it. Odd. Think that a hundred years from now common drinks will pass their names on to something that is utter crap?
 
2013-10-14 09:00:20 PM

Fast Talkin Fanny: Just stopped by to say this.

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Yea, you know... I'm reeeeally not a fan of Wild Turkey, but that is one fine bourbon right there. Really sticks in the craw after a sip.
 
2013-10-14 09:00:27 PM

wichitaleaf: What about scotch.


Similar to whisky, but aged in barrels that were used to make port.
 
2013-10-14 09:01:31 PM
Rye: the master whiskey.
 
2013-10-14 09:02:09 PM
one bourbon one scotch one beer.
That's all I have to say, except I love the taste of a good bourbon with a couple of ice cubes and the way the flavor changes as they melt.
 
2013-10-14 09:03:22 PM
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2013-10-14 09:03:29 PM

Elzar: Bob Falfa: Easy to remember: All bourbon is whiskey, but not all whiskey is bourbon.

Second axiom of whiskey: No finer bourbon then Jack Daniels.


Must disagree. Weller bourbon is far superior.
 
2013-10-14 09:05:06 PM

Donnchadha: due to NAFTA regulations, Jack Daniels is technically Bourbon as well.


Huh. Check that out.

NAFTA Annex 313: Distinctive Products

1. Canada and Mexico shall recognize Bourbon Whiskey and Tennessee Whiskey, which is a straight Bourbon Whiskey authorized to be produced only in the State of Tennessee, as distinctive products of the United States. Accordingly, Canada and Mexico shall not permit the sale of any product as Bourbon Whiskey or Tennessee Whiskey, unless it has been manufactured in the United States in accordance with the laws and regulations of the United States governing the manufacture of Bourbon Whiskey and Tennessee Whiskey.

Link
 
2013-10-14 09:06:27 PM
Just got home after receiving a really good job offer after six months on the sidelines.

Gentlemen, Ladies and Farkers, enjoy your whisky no matter what it is or how you spell it.

I know I will!

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2013-10-14 09:07:08 PM
When I'm slumming, I'll have Jack and Vernors, otherwise Woodford, or Bulleit. Not that nasty rye shiat either.
 
2013-10-14 09:08:00 PM

Veteran of the Cola Wars: ghall3: AverageAmericanGuy: This kind of list appeals strongly to 20-something men who think that deep knowledge of liquors makes them more cultured.

It's the same thing that sells 80 dollar t-shirts and badger bristle shaving brushes: insecurity.

As a 20 something man, I sort of agree. However, I do like knowing why I like what I like so I can try new bourbons/whiskys/scotches and have an idea of what to expect.

For me, it isn't about being cultured. My liquor tastes are actually pretty narrow and old fashioned. Somewhat obscure even, but not in a hipster sense, just in the sense that the world has gone mad and a bunch of dumb coonts had to go and ruin something good, like a martini. A martini should be a strong piney drink. There should be gin. A tiny bit of vermouth. Or just run through a room with vermouth located nearby. There shouldn't be vodka. And there shouldn't be anything called an appletini or a chocotini or any other dumb crap like that.

Simple pleasures. Like a Tom Collins or an Old Fashioned.

For me, it is a Tall Dark Stranger. Go ahead. Google it. You will not find it. It is a very old, pretty much forgotten drink from a hell of a long time ago. Hemingway loved them and drank them copiously.


That sounds extraordinarily hipster to me

Instead if reveling in your secret knowledge, how about sharing it?
 
2013-10-14 09:08:20 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: wichitaleaf: What about scotch.

Similar to whisky, but aged in barrels that were used to make port.


Scotch is whiskey -- just whiskey made in Scotland.
 
2013-10-14 09:08:29 PM
mediaseth: Second axiom of whiskey: No finer bourbon then Jack Daniels.

Wait, what? JD is fine and all crap, but not a bourbon.

Blech.
Just got back from England. Every time I tried to order a bourbon, I was offered Jack Daniel's.
Blech.
 
2013-10-14 09:08:57 PM
Can anyone pount me to an excellent rum to sample?
 
2013-10-14 09:09:04 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: This kind of list appeals strongly to 20-something men who think that deep knowledge of liquors makes them more cultured.

It's the same thing that sells 80 dollar t-shirts and badger bristle shaving brushes: insecurity.

 
2013-10-14 09:09:24 PM

shuntman: Just got home after receiving a really good job offer after six months on the sidelines.

Gentlemen, Ladies and Farkers, enjoy your whisky no matter what it is or how you spell it.

I know I will!

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Congrats! And enjoy yer whiskey!
 
2013-10-14 09:09:39 PM

shuntman: Just got home after receiving a really good job offer after six months on the sidelines.

Gentlemen, Ladies and Farkers, enjoy your whisky no matter what it is or how you spell it.

I know I will!

[img.fark.net image 850x637]


Sir, a toast to your good fortune!  (in my case this evening, Old No. 7 with a couple of cubes)
 
2013-10-14 09:09:43 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: This kind of list appeals strongly to 20-something men who think that deep knowledge of liquors makes them more cultured.

It's the same thing that sells 80 dollar t-shirts and badger bristle shaving brushes: insecurity.


Whats wrong with brush shaving? Nobody even sees you do it
 
2013-10-14 09:10:06 PM
Woopsie. Point, that is.
 
2013-10-14 09:10:23 PM

Bob Falfa: mediaseth: Second axiom of whiskey: No finer bourbon then Jack Daniels.

Wait, what? JD is fine and all crap, but not a bourbon.

Blech.
Just got back from England. Every time I tried to order a bourbon, I was offered Jack Daniel's.
Blech.


Go to Britain. Order American whiskey.

Ultimate hipster level achieved.
 
2013-10-14 09:10:42 PM
How about not drinking either, because why would you want to ruin good alcohol by putting it into filthy barrels?
 
2013-10-14 09:10:46 PM

gte269: AverageAmericanGuy: This kind of list appeals strongly to 20-something men who think that deep knowledge of liquors makes them more cultured.

It's the same thing that sells 80 dollar t-shirts and badger bristle shaving brushes: insecurity.


what list is that?  a list of two things:

1) Bourbon
2) Whiskey

yean im so cultured now
 
2013-10-14 09:10:57 PM

Ooba Tooba: Can anyone pount me to an excellent rum to sample?


Hey, wait... you aren't that sorority chick are you?
 
2013-10-14 09:11:03 PM

shuntman: Just got home after receiving a really good job offer after six months on the sidelines.

Gentlemen, Ladies and Farkers, enjoy your whisky no matter what it is or how you spell it.

I know I will!

[img.fark.net image 850x637]


Congrats and that bottle looks so cool.You just know good stuff is in it, enjoy.
 
2013-10-14 09:11:18 PM
This is Willett.

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If you see it, buy it. Drink it. It will end all arguments as to what is the finest Bourbon on the market.
 
2013-10-14 09:11:55 PM

LandOfChocolate: AverageAmericanGuy: This kind of list appeals strongly to 20-something men who think that deep knowledge of liquors makes them more cultured.

It's the same thing that sells 80 dollar t-shirts and badger bristle shaving brushes: insecurity.

Whats wrong with brush shaving? Nobody even sees you do it


The brushes aren't sharp enough and no amount of stripping will fix that.
 
2013-10-14 09:12:30 PM

Nogrhi: Ooba Tooba: Can anyone pount me to an excellent rum to sample?

Hey, wait... you aren't that sorority chick are you?


Naw. Big thumbs, small phone.
 
2013-10-14 09:12:33 PM

LandOfChocolate: Veteran of the Cola Wars: ghall3: AverageAmericanGuy: This kind of list appeals strongly to 20-something men who think that deep knowledge of liquors makes them more cultured.

It's the same thing that sells 80 dollar t-shirts and badger bristle shaving brushes: insecurity.

As a 20 something man, I sort of agree. However, I do like knowing why I like what I like so I can try new bourbons/whiskys/scotches and have an idea of what to expect.

For me, it isn't about being cultured. My liquor tastes are actually pretty narrow and old fashioned. Somewhat obscure even, but not in a hipster sense, just in the sense that the world has gone mad and a bunch of dumb coonts had to go and ruin something good, like a martini. A martini should be a strong piney drink. There should be gin. A tiny bit of vermouth. Or just run through a room with vermouth located nearby. There shouldn't be vodka. And there shouldn't be anything called an appletini or a chocotini or any other dumb crap like that.

Simple pleasures. Like a Tom Collins or an Old Fashioned.

For me, it is a Tall Dark Stranger. Go ahead. Google it. You will not find it. It is a very old, pretty much forgotten drink from a hell of a long time ago. Hemingway loved them and drank them copiously.

That sounds extraordinarily hipster to me

Instead if reveling in your secret knowledge, how about sharing it?


Though I will agree that a Tom Collins is a fine summertime drink.

/ and a Martini with no vermouth is really just cold gin -- I know it's fashionable to like them "dry" to the point of being cold gin rather than a mixed drink (Winston Churchill apparently liked them that way), but its an order that just screams "alcoholic".  ...may as well order a Long Island iced tea.
 
2013-10-14 09:12:46 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: This kind of list appeals strongly to 20-something men who think that deep knowledge of liquors makes them more cultured.

It's the same thing that sells 80 dollar t-shirts and badger bristle shaving brushes: insecurity.


You shut your whore mouth about badger bristle brushes. I love my Thäter two band. Sure, it cost more than the "tuition" fees for two weeks at my son's preschool but it's like a baby's butt, a kitten and a cloud had a love child and I get to rub my face with it.
/Nevermind that I use my $16 Omega 10095 more often because of some ingrained guilt complex from my insane parents that doesn't allow me to enjoy nice things.
 
2013-10-14 09:12:56 PM

LandOfChocolate: That sounds extraordinarily hipster to me

Instead if reveling in your secret knowledge, how about sharing it?


It's a chick drink. Picture something with an umbrella in it, but purple instead of red or orange.
 
2013-10-14 09:13:17 PM

Ooba Tooba: Nogrhi: Ooba Tooba: Can anyone pount me to an excellent rum to sample?

Hey, wait... you aren't that sorority chick are you?

Naw. Big thumbs, small phone.


I guessed but it really made me chuckle so I had to share.  :)
 
2013-10-14 09:14:49 PM
Sadly,I am not in the mood for bourbon. My martini, however, is a tad strong and tastes like gin. It is an awesome man's drink
 
2013-10-14 09:14:49 PM

Veteran of the Cola Wars: Hemingway loved them and drank them copiously.


Along with everything else within arm's length.
 
2013-10-14 09:14:52 PM

Gonz: This is Willett.

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If you see it, buy it. Drink it. It will end all arguments as to what is the finest Bourbon on the market.


Local pub here in the UK has a bottle of that behind the bar. I'd try it but I don't actually like bourbon.
 
2013-10-14 09:16:35 PM
rye on the rocks for me, please
 
2013-10-14 09:17:47 PM
Maker's Mark is too sweet unless you are making a sweet cocktail like an Old Fashioned and, if you are doing that, you might as well use Jim Beam.
 
2013-10-14 09:18:20 PM

Ooba Tooba: Can anyone pount me to an excellent rum to sample?


I'm a cheap bastard. I drink Sailor Jerry. Best rum I've ever had is a Belizian brand called One Barrel. I honestly don't know if it's the greatest thing I've ever drunk, but some good memories go with it. I need to find another bottle and compare.
 
2013-10-14 09:19:29 PM
Also, if you want something classic without sounding like a hipster or snob, find a bottle of something bottled in bond.

Not a single barrel, but from a single year. 100 proof, so it's got a kick. And it's the type of stuff your Grandpa drank before he had sexytime with Grandma.
 
2013-10-14 09:20:59 PM
Peasants.

The Macallen. Neat.
 
2013-10-14 09:21:13 PM

spunkymunky: Ooba Tooba: Can anyone pount me to an excellent rum to sample?

I'm a cheap bastard. I drink Sailor Jerry. Best rum I've ever had is a Belizian brand called One Barrel. I honestly don't know if it's the greatest thing I've ever drunk, but some good memories go with it. I need to find another bottle and compare.


Why thank you. Sailor's isn't bad, but occasionally I long for something more refined.
 
2013-10-14 09:22:08 PM

gte269: gte269: AverageAmericanGuy: This kind of list appeals strongly to 20-something men who think that deep knowledge of liquors makes them more cultured.

It's the same thing that sells 80 dollar t-shirts and badger bristle shaving brushes: insecurity.

what list is that?  a list of two things:

1) Bourbon
2) Whiskey

yean im so cultured now


So a short list isn't a list? Is there a minimum length to officially be a list? Years of list making give you a bit more knowledge of what a list is than anyone else?

I bet you were making lists before it was cool.

A list hipster. Now I've seen everything.
 
2013-10-14 09:22:39 PM

LandOfChocolate: Veteran of the Cola Wars: ghall3: AverageAmericanGuy: This kind of list appeals strongly to 20-something men who think that deep knowledge of liquors makes them more cultured.

It's the same thing that sells 80 dollar t-shirts and badger bristle shaving brushes: insecurity.

As a 20 something man, I sort of agree. However, I do like knowing why I like what I like so I can try new bourbons/whiskys/scotches and have an idea of what to expect.

For me, it isn't about being cultured. My liquor tastes are actually pretty narrow and old fashioned. Somewhat obscure even, but not in a hipster sense, just in the sense that the world has gone mad and a bunch of dumb coonts had to go and ruin something good, like a martini. A martini should be a strong piney drink. There should be gin. A tiny bit of vermouth. Or just run through a room with vermouth located nearby. There shouldn't be vodka. And there shouldn't be anything called an appletini or a chocotini or any other dumb crap like that.

Simple pleasures. Like a Tom Collins or an Old Fashioned.

For me, it is a Tall Dark Stranger. Go ahead. Google it. You will not find it. It is a very old, pretty much forgotten drink from a hell of a long time ago. Hemingway loved them and drank them copiously.

That sounds extraordinarily hipster to me

Instead if reveling in your secret knowledge, how about sharing it?


Can do. Rum, darker the better. Black-strap molasses is best. Chocolate liqueur, high proof. Shouldn't be sweet. And Coke. HFCS Coke tastes terrible if you use it. Adjust what goes in to yer liking. I take a big highball glass, add ice, fill it about half full of rum, add a splash of liqueur, and fill it the rest of the way with Coke from the Mexican mart. The drink is dark, sort of bitter, and tastes like how a Hemingway story reads.

Be wary of many modern chocolate liqueurs. Most of them are for the chocotini fad and are entirely too sweet. It should be damn near black in the bottle and should be marked or labeled as "unsweetened chocolate liqueur" or something to that effect.  It should smell kinda bitter and earthy, like going into an old musty basement.

And this isn't secret knowledge. Just old knowledge that has long since passed away. Nobody cares about it. It is a dusty relic of a bygone era. The sort of crutch used by alcoholic writers and poets when they waxed nostalgic about other bygone eras, where men were men and the world still made sense.
 
2013-10-14 09:22:45 PM

shuntman: Just got home after receiving a really good job offer after six months on the sidelines.

Gentlemen, Ladies and Farkers, enjoy your whisky no matter what it is or how you spell it.

I know I will!

[img.fark.net image 850x637]


Good on ya! Don't drink the entire bottle and then email your potential bosses on what changes they should make, NOW.
 
2013-10-14 09:22:46 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Bob Falfa: mediaseth: Second axiom of whiskey: No finer bourbon then Jack Daniels.

Wait, what? JD is fine and all crap, but not a bourbon.

Blech.
Just got back from England. Every time I tried to order a bourbon, I was offered Jack Daniel's.
Blech.

Go to Britain. Order American whiskey.

Ultimate hipster level achieved.


Not a hipster, just every now and then I wanted my familiar bourbon, not warm beer or scotch. Come on, we were there 3 weeks, I only ordered it a few times.
 
2013-10-14 09:23:36 PM
Coffee is my beer.
 
2013-10-14 09:24:14 PM
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Want some rye?

'Course ya do.
 
2013-10-14 09:24:43 PM

TheWhoppah: Maker's Mark is too sweet unless you are making a sweet cocktail like an Old Fashioned and, if you are doing that, you might as well use Jim Beam.


I don't know about you, but I can taste the difference.
 
2013-10-14 09:25:18 PM

johndalek: rye on the rocks for me, please




Have you tried Pendleton 1910 Rye? It is excellent.
 
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