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(Wall Street Journal)   Toyota develops a car that steers itself away from pedestrians. Telephone poles, bridge abutments, not so much   (blogs.wsj.com) divider line 35
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2013-10-14 06:35:41 PM
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2013-10-14 06:56:48 PM
Well, if it is going to accelerate on its own, it might as well be able to steer.
 
2013-10-14 07:43:52 PM
Why is it so hard to just farking pay attention!!
 
2013-10-14 07:44:48 PM
The new system is designed to help prevent collisions in cases where automatic by itself would not be sufficient, such as when the vehicle is traveling too or when a pedestrian suddenly steps in front of the car.

Can someone please parse this sentence for me? It's making my brain hurt.
 
2013-10-14 08:03:37 PM

fusillade762: The new system is designed to help prevent collisions in cases where automatic by itself would not be sufficient, such as when the vehicle is traveling too or when a pedestrian suddenly steps in front of the car.

Can someone please parse this sentence for me? It's making my brain hurt.


Easy.  It's meant to only happen when the vehicle is traveling too.  Not when it's just you walking by.
 
2013-10-14 09:12:31 PM

RedPhoenix122: fusillade762: The new system is designed to help prevent collisions in cases where automatic by itself would not be sufficient, such as when the vehicle is traveling too or when a pedestrian suddenly steps in front of the car.

Can someone please parse this sentence for me? It's making my brain hurt.

Easy.  It's meant to only happen when the vehicle is traveling too.  Not when it's just you walking by.


So it won't apply the brakes if the car's not moving? Good to know.
 
2013-10-14 09:55:54 PM
Wouldn't it be better to make pedestrians who automatically avoided cars?
 
2013-10-14 10:21:08 PM
We could just make driving while operating a cell phone illegal.
 
2013-10-14 10:23:09 PM
I feel like this would just make people crash even more.
 
2013-10-14 10:28:19 PM
Eh, the quicker we get to the car that drives me to work while I sleep, the better.

Godspeed car manufacturers. I look forward to the day I never have to drive again.
 
2013-10-14 10:28:56 PM
Foam rubber hoods and bumpers
 
2013-10-14 10:30:04 PM
Can it automatically avoid farmers' markets?
 
2013-10-14 10:30:31 PM

Chariset: Wouldn't it be better to make pedestrians who automatically avoided cars?


Maybe phones should come with some sort of motion sensors and an alarm?
Three teenage girls walking down the street on Saturday night. The weren't talking. Every single one of them was completely absorbed in their phone. They didn't even look up as they jaywalked across the street.

Maybe they were texting each other?
 
2013-10-14 11:07:29 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Can it automatically avoid farmers' markets?


Took long enough for this to be mentioned.
 
2013-10-14 11:17:05 PM

max_pooper: We could just make driving while operating a cell phone illegal.


A number of states already do that. For all the good it's done, since people seem to ignore the law.
 
2013-10-14 11:24:32 PM

fusillade762: max_pooper: We could just make driving while operating a cell phone illegal.

A number of states already do that. For all the good it's done, since people seem to ignore the law.


Well now we can send them to prison for murder when they kill people while talking on the phone instead of something weak like manslaughter.  The sooner distracted driving is equated with drunk driving the better.
 
2013-10-14 11:40:16 PM
I can just see the first court case where a person is accused of steering into the pedestrian who otherwise would have already been past the car, and the black box shows the car did it.  Who's liable? The carmaker.
 
2013-10-14 11:40:33 PM
Lodged WHERE?

/Awww, MAN! My BRIEFCASE, MAN! It's not here!
 
2013-10-14 11:57:44 PM

axeeugene: Lodged WHERE?

/Awww, MAN! My BRIEFCASE, MAN! It's not here!


Yeah, we think a vagrant slept in it, or maybe just used it as a toilet and moved on.

/for some reason, that scene makes me laugh more than any other scene in that movie
 
2013-10-15 12:17:23 AM

ThrnPhl: Why is it so hard to just farking pay attention!!


Obviously you do not know the joy of pushing buttons and rubbing on glass. How could anyone enjoy the visceral thrill of driving competently when all that is beckoning!
 
2013-10-15 01:46:47 AM

milsorgen: ThrnPhl: Why is it so hard to just farking pay attention!!

Obviously you do not know the joy of pushing buttons and rubbing on glass. How could anyone enjoy the visceral thrill of driving competently when all that is beckoning!


But enough about my sex life ...
 
2013-10-15 01:48:12 AM
I hope they designed it to avoid cliff edges and so on too, because I can just see a car sailing off a cliff to avoid a squirrel.
 
2013-10-15 03:01:25 AM

RogermcAllen: The sooner distracted driving is equated with drunk driving the better.


I'd rather that we just stop making laws about the potential reasons people drive dangerously instead of their actual dangerous driving.
 
2013-10-15 05:19:50 AM
I don't ever want a car that can decide to steer itself for any reason. Computers just aren't that trustworthy.
 
2013-10-15 05:24:49 AM

ThrnPhl: Why is it so hard to just farking pay attention!!


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fusillade762: The new system is designed to help prevent collisions in cases where automatic by itself would not be sufficient, such as when the vehicle is traveling too or when a pedestrian suddenly steps in front of the car.

Can someone please parse this sentence for me? It's making my brain hurt.


They accidentally the whole thing.

The WSJ is getting really sloppy.  There's a clip on their Roku WSJ Live channel where some blonde bimbo is interviewing "General Lee" and towards the end she looks at the camera and says "um, okay, nnnnnnno, that was fine.  I just was wondering I stumbled on the intro.I didn't know if it's possible to retape it.  Yeah is that okay?"

She almost came across as being as stupid as "General Lee" (organizer of the truck protest on the beltway in DC last weekend) who said they were going to make it an "Egypt-like event".  I'm not sure if he was hoping for the police to come out and start shooting them while they burned down churches or what, but that guy was a moran.
 
2013-10-15 05:36:11 AM
If the car automatically avoids pedestrians, how will you get into the car to go somewhere? I mean, you have to walk up to the car to get into it... at that point you are a pedestrian. I guess the car will come with a ninja suit that you wear to sneak up on it.
 
2013-10-15 07:30:24 AM

DrPainMD: If the car automatically avoids pedestrians, how will you get into the car to go somewhere? I mean, you have to walk up to the car to get into it... at that point you are a pedestrian. I guess the car will come with a ninja suit that you wear to sneak up on it.


Hoverounds.  Duh.
 
2013-10-15 09:02:37 AM

RogermcAllen: fusillade762: max_pooper: We could just make driving while operating a cell phone illegal.

A number of states already do that. For all the good it's done, since people seem to ignore the law.

Well now we can send them to prison for murder when they kill people while talking on the phone instead of something weak like manslaughter.  The sooner distracted driving is equated with drunk driving the better.


How about just increasing the penalties for wrecking/hitting people? Doesn't matter if you're drunk/sober/changing the radio/asleep/being an idiot/whathaveyou, the victim is just as dead either way.

There's no reason not to watch a goddamned movie while you're driving on a stretch of interstate and sharing a mile of road with 3 other people. I daresay there's plenty of reason TO do this, like not falling asleep from the sheer boredom of driving.
 
2013-10-15 09:20:27 AM

Nogrhi: Well, if it is going to accelerate on its own, it might as well be able to steer.


If they they add a personality to the audio system, you can go fight crime together.
 
2013-10-15 10:28:49 AM
So... if the system malfunctions we could have a car that steers toward pedestrians? I smell a Christine sequel.
 
2013-10-15 10:44:13 AM
No thanks.  Alerts, yes.  It shouldn't go any farther than that, though.

I don't want the car steering me into a bad situation to protect a drunk.  I used to know someone who put is wife in the ICU that way--he swerved to avoid a drunk on the highway and rolled his SUV.

I've also been in a situation where the best course of action was to aim for the car that got in my path--an attempt to avoid the collision would probably have resulted in a head-on at a 100mph closing rate.  The bozo moved over enough just in time so I could get past.  (He turned right out of a side street and was straddling the lane marker.  The road was turning right, 4 lanes with no center lane, if I crossed the double yellow I was in the oncoming traffic stream.)
 
2013-10-15 11:01:46 AM

Skyfrog: I don't ever want a car that can decide to steer itself for any reason. Computers just aren't that trustworthy.


I don't know if it is hubris, or something else, but I sooner trust a computer than almost any motorist out there. Of course, I am one of those notable exceptions.

/just like everyone else think they are
 
2013-10-15 11:59:20 AM
Cool I'm hoping for wifi access from a self driving car, so I can hack one and install the GTA mod. You know where the car drives on the side walks and mows down pedestrians, motorcycles, ATVs and bicycles.
 
2013-10-15 05:51:19 PM
Well this definitely adds challenge to any matches of GTA: IRL anyone was thinking of starting.
 
2013-10-15 06:46:41 PM

Goimir: RogermcAllen: fusillade762: max_pooper: We could just make driving while operating a cell phone illegal.

A number of states already do that. For all the good it's done, since people seem to ignore the law.

Well now we can send them to prison for murder when they kill people while talking on the phone instead of something weak like manslaughter.  The sooner distracted driving is equated with drunk driving the better.

How about just increasing the penalties for wrecking/hitting people? Doesn't matter if you're drunk/sober/changing the radio/asleep/being an idiot/whathaveyou, the victim is just as dead either way.

There's no reason not to watch a goddamned movie while you're driving on a stretch of interstate and sharing a mile of road with 3 other people. I daresay there's plenty of reason TO do this, like not falling asleep from the sheer boredom of driving.


Please call a doctor immediately.  The first thing you said made sense, but then I think you may have had a stroke as you hit enter to type out that second part about watching movies to stay awake while driving.
 
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