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(Outside Online)   Lost 72-year-old deer hunter, lost in the wilderness for 19 days after hitting his head, is found alive. He survived by eating squirrels, lizards, a snake, berries, and algae--basically everything but deer   (outsideonline.com) divider line 77
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2013-10-14 10:16:48 PM
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2013-10-14 10:22:08 PM

Lady Indica: With the diet difference, are they both wild deer? Or is one raised and killed like a cow? Or are there hunting grounds where they're fed like this but you still go in and kill them? Utterly ignorant here.


Depends upon where you are.  Some ranches are supported by the game animals they allow hunters to stalk and they actually can feed and fatten up the deer.  Other places are completely wild and you will get fined for baiting them if you do that.  They are typically killed by a rifle, not like a cow at the slaughter house which can create a mess if the shot placement is not very good.  You can lose quite a bit of meat with a badly placed bullet.
 
2013-10-14 10:36:57 PM

Lady Indica: 69gnarkill69: max_pooper: Probably because venison taste like shiat.

You're not supposed to eat the rectum.

As pointed out already, it's all about the diet.  Acorns and scrub brush = nasty venison.  Sweet grass and apples = better than any beef.

I know nothing about deer and deer hunting. With the diet difference, are they both wild deer? Or is one raised and killed like a cow? Or are there hunting grounds where they're fed like this but you still go in and kill them? Utterly ignorant here.

I've had vension when I was a teen. It was okay. I'd try it again.


The deer I have ate were wild.  My dad lives in northwest Montana and that area is thick with whitetail and mule deer as well as elk and antelope. Deer don't really graze and eat grass, they mostly eat shoots, berries, alfalfa etc. and there are a lot of apples grown in the area he lives and that influences the taste of the meat. I'm not aware of any commercial ranches that raise deer but there may be some.  My dad bow hunts and takes a deer and elk every year and I get a care package mailed to me with nice steaks and homemade sausage.  I prefer elk to venison or beef for that matter.  Chicken-fried elk steaks with mashed potatoes and gravy is the best dinner in the world to me.
 
2013-10-14 10:52:07 PM
Deer are somewhat oppertunistic, and in a lot of the midwest they eat giant ammounts of corn. These deer have a tendancy to be bigger fatter and blander than deer in other areas. I grew up on a fairly large farm in southeastern ohio. There were 3 distinct herds on our farm that didn't really seem to cross each other that much the ones on the bottoms land where we grew corn, they lived between the creek and the road, the ones on the other side of the road lived in a big pine forest and seemed to eat off of our hay and grazing land, the ones by the house lived in mixed forest of mostly oak and walnut, had a small hay field our garden and some corn, as well as just what ever was in their big woodlot. The bottoms deer were different and milder than the other two even though they lived beteen them. I think there is a difference beteen the other two as well but it possibly could have just been due to fat.
 
2013-10-14 11:21:19 PM
Does that post sound better with a banjo?
 
2013-10-14 11:32:00 PM

Maxor: razyjean: Maxor: If you don't know where you are and don't have a compelling reason to plan on staying in the area why shoot a 80+ lbs creature. Unless you have a bunch of salt on hand or are suprisingly good at making smokey fires the meat will just spoil in about 36 hours and hualing it around is a lot of work. As long as you have a reasonable amount of ammo a 2 or 3 lbs rabbit or squirrel is way more convienat.

You've never played Oregon Trail, have you?

I have love the game on the apple ii, I don't have a crap ton of salt, a ox drawn wagon, family of 7 (or was it 5 can't remember) and a wagon train full of the same. Also played it on a rom on a core 2 duo about 4 years ago watching that game flash by at 1.4 ghz instead of 33mhz was interesting hunting was serious spray and pray, and you'll notice on the game they were only carrying 100 back to the wagon and weren't 80.


www.mrdiggles.com

In elementary school, nobody cared about actually getting their wagon across the country, they just bought as many bullets as they could afford and went hunting.  That was the joke.
 
2013-10-14 11:32:30 PM

MBooda: So how many you bagged, subby?
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2013-10-14 11:50:05 PM
I was told at a young age that the cleaner the kill the tastier the meat when it comes to venison.

Quick kill means less adrenaline in the meat thus not as gamey.

It seems like a sound idea but I have no idea if it is true.
 
2013-10-14 11:54:31 PM

sawzallz: It seems like a sound idea but I have no idea if it is true.


My experience is to kill the younger bucks and elk or the larger ones out of the rut.  Killing a big bull/buck in the prime of the rut is going to reduce the taste of the meat.

/you can't eat the horns
 
2013-10-15 12:03:59 AM

HeadLever: netcentric: Huh... rich people problems.

Actually, a fair number of the folks that I know that hunt do it to save money.  Have you checked beef prices lately?


And beef prices are probably going to go up a bit more because of the 80,000+ head of cattle recently killed by the blizzard. A lot of them were the rancher's breeders.
 
2013-10-15 12:16:23 AM

Wrencher: And beef prices are probably going to go up a bit more because of the 80,000+ head of cattle recently killed by the blizzard. A lot of them were the rancher's breeders.


Yeah, that is going to be tough on prices, but not as near as tough as it will be on some of the ranchers there.  I have family that ranches and I feel for them.  Bad deal all the way around.
 
2013-10-15 12:45:28 AM
In other news, I titty farked Katy Perry last night.
 
2013-10-15 12:58:41 AM

tomerson: In other news, I titty farked Katy Perry last night.


Bag of antlers?


/Not sure I got it but, meh...
 
2013-10-15 01:45:52 AM

Thingster: he did do everything right. Was lost, didn't wander, ate what was available, kept warm with what was available.


This.
 
2013-10-15 02:18:27 AM

max_pooper: You can't buy it at the grocery store because, save for a small population of people that think shooting a deer at feeder in a small pen is sporting, most people think it's terrible.


No, you can't buy it at the grocery store because, unlike cattle, deer can jump over fences.  I've personally seen whitetails clear an 8' privacy fence like it was nothing.   I've occasionaly seen Venison on the menu at some higher end resteraunts.  It's not cheap.  If it were economically feasible to raise deer in captivity on a commercial scale, someone would be doing so.   But it's not, because it's prohibitively expensive to enclose enough acerage to support a herd.   The closest you get are "hunting" lodges that have a few small enclosures where you can shoot a captive deer for several thousand dollars.
 
2013-10-15 03:10:20 AM
i think its even more embarrassing that he was found within 3 miles of where he went missing. what a great search party.... searches for 4 days but cant make it to the 3 mile mark...
 
2013-10-15 03:18:41 AM

Smeggy Smurf: Approves of the hunting technique

/could it be the ever elusive obscure comment?


I love this guy!
 
2013-10-15 03:22:36 AM
This guy has him beat

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2013-10-15 03:30:16 AM

MrHappyRotter: He didn't have enough energy to shoot the deer?  What?  Was he hunting them with a taser?


Possibly a bow. Like people actually do.

He may more have meant he didn't have the energy to deal with it after he shot it, though, they do kind of take some cleaning and all.
 
2013-10-15 03:37:11 AM

clyph: max_pooper: You can't buy it at the grocery store because, save for a small population of people that think shooting a deer at feeder in a small pen is sporting, most people think it's terrible.

No, you can't buy it at the grocery store because, unlike cattle, deer can jump over fences.  I've personally seen whitetails clear an 8' privacy fence like it was nothing.   I've occasionaly seen Venison on the menu at some higher end resteraunts.  It's not cheap.  If it were economically feasible to raise deer in captivity on a commercial scale, someone would be doing so.   But it's not, because it's prohibitively expensive to enclose enough acerage to support a herd.   The closest you get are "hunting" lodges that have a few small enclosures where you can shoot a captive deer for several thousand dollars.


Yeah, we have this little fenced vegetable garden with a good 8'+ fence... still doesn't always keep them out. I've actually seen one jump OUT of it, and there's not even close to room for them to take a running start.

/too many deer around here, barely even afraid of people anymore
//but houses are too close, with too many small children, for even bow hunting to be safe
 
2013-10-15 08:41:11 AM

Maxor: If you don't know where you are and don't have a compelling reason to plan on staying in the area why shoot a 80+ lbs creature. Unless you have a bunch of salt on hand or are suprisingly good at making smokey fires the meat will just spoil in about 36 hours and hualing it around is a lot of work. As long as you have a reasonable amount of ammo a 2 or 3 lbs rabbit or squirrel is way more convienat.


I think if you are lost and starving in the woods, you would kill it, eat what ever you could and not worry about what might go to waste.
 
2013-10-15 08:49:30 AM

forbes01: i think its even more embarrassing that he was found within 3 miles of where he went missing. what a great search party.... searches for 4 days but cant make it to the 3 mile mark...


Maybe...3 miles in a line ain't a problem. 3 sq miles is a lot of ground to cover. Plus working outward from his last known point with only a guess as to direction of travel. Maybe better trackers could have helped depending on how the weather was and how well that guy might be able to move through the woods.

A lot of variables there.
 
2013-10-15 09:15:05 AM

sawzallz: I was told at a young age that the cleaner the kill the tastier the meat when it comes to venison.

Quick kill means less adrenaline in the meat thus not as gamey.

It seems like a sound idea but I have no idea if it is true.


I was raised to believe it and always get my buck within the first hour of daylight of the first day of season.
Within 50 feet.
With a model 94.
 
2013-10-15 11:12:35 AM

forbes01: i think its even more embarrassing that he was found within 3 miles of where he went missing. what a great search party.... searches for 4 days but cant make it to the 3 mile mark...


3 miles doesn't sound like much, but realize a 3 mile radius is over 28 square miles of search area.
 
2013-10-15 02:33:16 PM

Wolf892: This guy has him beat

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So, you haven't played Far Cry 3 yet, have you?
 
2013-10-15 07:53:46 PM
He should have shot and killed a deer, then hollowed it out and camped inside it. Warmth and food.
 
2013-10-15 08:01:24 PM
Lady Indica:
I've had vension when I was a teen. It was okay. I'd try it again.

I live in Ohio.  Even in the urban areas, deer outnumber squirrels by mass.  Even if you don't hunt, by sheer numbers, you know someone who does, and that person doesn't have enough room in their freezer.

Every two or three years, I get gifted about 20-30 pounds of venison.
 
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