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(Lincoln Journal Star)   Parents upset that a school principal told students they wouldn't be reciting the Pledge of Allegiance because of the government shutdown   (journalstar.com) divider line 42
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2013-10-14 09:25:30 PM
9 votes:
Having children mindlessly recite a loyalty oath is farking creepy with or without the god part.
2013-10-14 08:04:52 PM
9 votes:

fusillade762: Some students were outraged by the decision, and one woman said her son stood up in class and recited the pledge anyway.

Good for him. Always refreshing when they spout their political indoctrination voluntarily.


It always amuses me when the "this isn't fascist Russia" types insist on the Pledge.
2013-10-14 07:49:48 PM
8 votes:
Some students were outraged by the decision, and one woman said her son stood up in class and recited the pledge anyway.

Good for him. Always refreshing when they spout their political indoctrination voluntarily.
2013-10-14 08:07:02 PM
7 votes:

EvilEgg: It always amuses me when the "this isn't fascist Russia" types insist on the Pledge.


I wouldn't mind saying it if we could omit the "under God" part that was added in the 50's to protect the US against the communists.
2013-10-14 08:27:11 PM
5 votes:

RedPhoenix122: "I pledge submission, to the manager, of the corporate structure I work for..."


I like the old pledge:

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"Heil (Insert President Here)!"
2013-10-14 09:31:59 PM
4 votes:
Can someone explain why we want to pledge allegiance to a piece of cloth? You might think, well, it's not a cloth, it's what that cloth stands for but  the pledge appears to explicitly differentiate between the two: "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands..."

Am I missing something or does it actually mean you're pledging to both the flag, which is a piece of cloth, and separately  to the republic that it symbolizes?
2013-10-14 08:11:03 PM
4 votes:
Oof. Meanwhile, my school threatened detention if I said "love" instead of "God." That took a visit from my mother to straighten out.

/and school officials tried very hard never to deal with my mother
2013-10-14 10:40:28 PM
3 votes:
blandyland.com
2013-10-14 10:17:05 PM
3 votes:
The other day my 6 year old came home and told me that he thinks it's weird to talk about god in school.  When they make him recite the pledge he's chosen instead to say, "one nation, under donuts, with liberty and donuts for all."

It was one of those moments where I knew that I probably ought to give him some sort of lecture about being patriotic, but instead I told him I was proud that he took a stand for something he believes in instead of doing something simply because someone in a position of power said he should.

/css
//wishes for a world with donuts for all
2013-10-14 10:02:05 PM
3 votes:
Why do we force children to make daily pledges of fealty they don't understand? It's creepy and disturbing like something out of a communist dictatorship except I've never heard of one doing that.

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2013-10-14 09:37:55 PM
3 votes:
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This whole "trying to blame things on the shutdown to score some points" thing is really  getting far too silly.

You'll notice all those nasty 3-letter acronymed agencies are still going strong through this. (CIA, FBI, IRS, DEA, ATF, NSA, TSA) They'll never stop those.
2013-10-14 11:43:03 PM
2 votes:

uncoveror: The Pledge is a loyalty oath, and the purpose of those is to weed out the disloyal. It is time to change "One Nation Under God" to "One Nation Under Christ" so moozlim ayrab terrists know we don't mean Allah. When they balk and won't say it, we know we've found one. http://www.uncoveror.com/pledge.htm


Your blog sucks.
2013-10-14 10:46:44 PM
2 votes:
They're pissed that their snowflakes can't participate in a National Socialist loyalty oath?  Funny, if I had kids I would be pissed if they actually were doing that.


brandent: RedPhoenix122: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Look libtard, if it weren't for patriotic American kids reciting the pledge, we'd all be speaking Cuban right now.

Hah.  Funny thing, I was the one of 2 people in my class that were Jehovah's Witnesses, and had to sit the pledge out.

/Oddly enough, I ended up saying it in 2004 to swear into the military.

No such thing exists.  You do not pledge allegiance to the flag to join the military.  Did you even pay any attention to the words of the oath that you took?


I doubt it.  Half the people in my swearing in actually repeated "state your name".
2013-10-14 10:40:50 PM
2 votes:

generallyso: Why do we force children to make daily pledges of fealty they don't understand?


The same reason people send their kids to Sunday School to memorize Bible verses: indoctrination.  Brainwash 'em early enough and they'll stay faithful to the cause forever.

/something something confirmation bias
2013-10-14 10:18:10 PM
2 votes:
How about that the Pledge is unconstitutional?
2013-10-14 10:15:31 PM
2 votes:

dennysgod: Some students were outraged by the decision, and one woman said her son stood up in class and recited the pledge anyway.

Such blind devotion, I've never understood these people and never will.


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Not dissimilar...
2013-10-14 10:05:08 PM
2 votes:
Some students were outraged by the decision, and one woman said her son stood up in class and recited the pledge anyway.

Such blind devotion, I've never understood these people and never will.
2013-10-14 10:00:22 PM
2 votes:

I pledge allegiance to the flag covering the united naughty bits of this woman.


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One fantasy, under darkness and not visible, with orgasms and releases for all.

2013-10-14 09:16:06 PM
2 votes:
How about not saying it because it's fkn stupid?
2013-10-14 08:32:14 PM
2 votes:

RedPhoenix122: How long until someone tries to co-opt this into "Obama's idea for the pledge of allegiance."


January 20, 2009.
2013-10-14 08:19:06 PM
2 votes:
Wait, they still do that?

I never got that. Do we start every work day with a pledge?
2013-10-14 07:47:11 PM
2 votes:
All the geniuses end up in Education.
2013-10-15 01:13:25 AM
1 votes:

infinitydreamer: The other day my 6 year old came home and told me that he thinks it's weird to talk about god in school.  When they make him recite the pledge he's chosen instead to say, "one nation, under donuts, with liberty and donuts for all."

It was one of those moments where I knew that I probably ought to give him some sort of lecture about being patriotic, but instead I told him I was proud that he took a stand for something he believes in instead of doing something simply because someone in a position of power said he should.

/css
//wishes for a world with donuts for all


Not me. Donuts and carbs conspired to kill me. But I escaped. I like the kid who simply substituted "under Love" for "under God". Same thing but without the religious overtones.
2013-10-14 11:40:09 PM
1 votes:
E plebnista!

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2013-10-14 11:23:16 PM
1 votes:
Oh good. One of those delightful "both sides are wrong" scenarios.

A principal makes a dumb, pointless decision for no reason, matched in stupidity by all the flag-waving outrage-whores who take the time to give a shiat about something so utterly meaningless.
2013-10-14 10:56:39 PM
1 votes:

Southern100: Millions of immigrants are more than happy to swear allegiance to this country when they get their citizenship, and are willing to do almost whatever it takes to get the privilege to make that oath. Yet we have people BORN in this country who are willing to do almost whatever it takes to not only get out of the oath, but to prevent others from saying it even when they want to.

I shouldn't be surprised. I always am, but I shouldn't be.


No you are factually incorrect.  The flag oath is unconstitutional and un-Christian.  It states loyalty to an object not a country, constitution, or set of ideals.  It's straight up idol worship.  Please try to understand the difference between an oath such as oath to join the military to support and defend the constitution vs an oath to an inanimate object.
2013-10-14 10:33:03 PM
1 votes:
Millions of immigrants are more than happy to swear allegiance to this country when they get their citizenship, and are willing to do almost whatever it takes to get the privilege to make that oath. Yet we have people BORN in this country who are willing to do almost whatever it takes to not only get out of the oath, but to prevent others from saying it even when they want to.

I shouldn't be surprised. I always am, but I shouldn't be.
2013-10-14 10:22:53 PM
1 votes:

eatin' fetus: Perot lost a long time ago due to having thin convictions that played the centrists perfectly, yet of course failed to gain votes.


He was on the ballot in every state and got ~19% of the popular vote. Considering he pretty much came out of nowhere, I'd hardly call that "failed to gain votes".

/Would you have preferred I said, "Where's Wallace?"?
2013-10-14 10:15:09 PM
1 votes:
As absurd as mindless recitation of the Pledge may be, trying to tie it to the shutdown somehow manages to be more absurd. All it does is confuse the issue, confuse students, and upset parents for no positive accomplishment. If you're going to stop reciting the Pledge in school every day, do it because reciting the Pledge every day is a farking asinine thing to do, not because of some made-up shiat - you'll still upset parents just as much, but at least you'd be making an honest stand.
2013-10-14 10:08:19 PM
1 votes:

generallyso: Why do we force children to make daily pledges of fealty they don't understand? It's creepy and disturbing like something out of a communist dictatorship except I've never heard of one doing that.


Loyalty oaths were usually requested whenever you did something of even minor importance in communist dictatorships.
2013-10-14 10:06:15 PM
1 votes:

Mr. Eugenides: ArcadianRefugee: Where's Perot?

A third party is needed, not a cult of personality.  It needs to be founded on a set of principles and guided by them not the whims of any one person no matter how well intentioned.


Three words: Instant. Runoff. Voting.
2013-10-14 10:01:27 PM
1 votes:

Mr. Eugenides: ArcadianRefugee: Where's Perot?

A third party is needed, not a cult of personality.  It needs to be founded on a set of principles and guided by them not the whims of any one person no matter how well intentioned.


The biggest call that Perot made where he was absolutely correct and the Democrats and Republicans were just outright lying on behalf of their wealthy donor friends was that if we removed all the financial penalties for moving the manufacturing jobs outside the US, then the giant sucking sound we would hear would be all the manufacturing jobs leaving America.

Now you can look at Detroit and see just how right he was.
2013-10-14 10:00:05 PM
1 votes:
Pricipal. Caught sayof school that has stoped Pledging " See, told ya so"
2013-10-14 09:57:44 PM
1 votes:

Lady Indica: Having children mindlessly recite a loyalty oath is farking creepy with or without the god part.


I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
2013-10-14 09:51:21 PM
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: Where's Perot?


A third party is needed, not a cult of personality.  It needs to be founded on a set of principles and guided by them not the whims of any one person no matter how well intentioned.
2013-10-14 09:44:21 PM
1 votes:
2013-10-14 09:36:08 PM
1 votes:
It's hard not be so smug when I see the shiat you Americans get all huffy about.

Go watch a college football game and calm down, Bubba.
2013-10-14 09:34:16 PM
1 votes:
What does one have to do with the other, Principal Jackass?!
2013-10-14 09:27:43 PM
1 votes:
I think its cute when the kindergartners do it.
2013-10-14 09:09:14 PM
1 votes:

Podmore: So what actual point was that teacher trying to make, anyway?


That they are an idiot?
2013-10-14 09:04:15 PM
1 votes:

fusillade762: Some students were outraged by the decision, and one woman said her son stood up in class and recited the pledge anyway.

Good for him. Always refreshing when they spout their political indoctrination voluntarily.


blog.cleveland.com
2013-10-14 08:33:37 PM
1 votes:

NewportBarGuy: RedPhoenix122: How long until someone tries to co-opt this into "Obama's idea for the pledge of allegiance."

January 20, 2009.


Touché.
 
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