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(The Raw Story)   Oprah tells atheist swimmer that she can't believe in "awe" and "wonder". And the atheist's response is just as stupid. Popcorn, anyone?   (rawstory.com) divider line 105
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2013-10-14 03:35:04 PM
22 votes:

cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?



It's okay Stedman, she's can't hurt you here.
2013-10-14 03:17:14 PM
18 votes:
"I think sunsets are pretty."

"THAT'S WHAT GOD IS SO YOU NOW BELIEVE IN GOD AHAHAHAHA"
2013-10-14 04:46:27 PM
17 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?

She's never done anything to me personally, but she's a public person who publicly says stupid things and is therefore being publicly mocked and criticized.  It's part of the price that comes with being a media-made billionaire.


In fact thats how you become a media-made billionaire - by saying stupid things....

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2013-10-14 04:31:21 PM
16 votes:

Dr. Whoof: Is it me or is Oprah in the pic in the article beginning to look like Oghra from the Dark Crystal?


dailyduel.files.wordpress.com

You get a Gelfling, and you get a gelfling, everyone gets a gelfling!!!!!
2013-10-14 05:00:29 PM
14 votes:
Administrator #102 was enjoying the relative quiet of a slow Monday on Fark. It was kind of nice when the week got off to such a start. They seldom did these days. The demands of the queue were low and a story about spiders having feelings was topping the hit list so maybe some of the usual troublemakers were actually getting some work done today for a change instead of making her life miserable.

Of course, she had only finished the thought when the Red Phone illuminated and the insistent chirp-chirp-chirp of its tone reverberated through the control bunker. Only Drew Curtis himself ever called on that line and Administrator #102 tensed reflexively. The Red Phone always meant trouble.

Administrator #102 took a deep breath and then toggled the switch on her console to put the call through her headset. "Yes boss!" she said, mustering as much cheerfulness into her voice as she could. On the other end of the line the sound of harp music and the Beer Waterfall could be heard.

"Good morning, Administrator One-Oh-Two," came the Great One's voice. "I would like you to green a thread for me please."

"Yes sir, no problem sir! Which one?"

"7974769."

"Are, are you sure sir?"

Drew Curtis sighed loudly on the other end of the line. "Do you know who is visiting me today Administrator One-Oh-Two? The Pope. As in does a Pope shiat in the woods. That Pope. And we have a little bet going. So green that headline and make it snappy or you'll be busted back down to sorting repeats on the Video Tab, is that perfectly clear?"

The line went dead.

Administrator #102 was reminded of the time that The Boss deleted the entire Politics Tab. You just did not mess with The Boss when he was in a mood like this. She tapped at the keyboard and greened the thread. Atheists, Oprah, and the main page.

This was about to get all kinds of stupid.
2013-10-14 04:31:08 PM
13 votes:
www.rawstory.com
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2013-10-14 03:47:54 PM
12 votes:

impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.

I believe in god, and he is delicious.


................I guess I believe in god too then. See you at church.

www.yourcanopy.com
2013-10-14 05:25:17 PM
10 votes:
mgshamster:

Half of blue is somewhere in the ultraviolet range.

I'm pretty sure half of blue is bl
2013-10-14 04:29:43 PM
10 votes:
Is it me or is Oprah in the pic in the article beginning to look like Oghra from the Dark Crystal?
2013-10-14 04:33:08 PM
9 votes:
What's the difference between God and Oprah?
God doesn't believe he's Oprah.
2013-10-14 03:52:28 PM
9 votes:

scottydoesntknow: comhcinc: impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.

I believe in god, and he is delicious.

................I guess I believe in god too then. See you at church.

[www.yourcanopy.com image 850x637]

I don't think Taco Hell is best place for spiritual discovery


You have never been there on a Sunday night at 2 am after that chick who picked you up at the bar turned out not to be a chick.
2013-10-14 03:23:06 PM
9 votes:
Winfrey agreed: "Well, I believe that and feel that so deeply. It's why every time I enter my yard or leave, I say, 'Hello trees bees!'"

FTFOprah

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2013-10-14 04:27:32 PM
8 votes:
Let me lighten the mood around here....
Hey guys, have you ever noticed how religious folk walk around like *this*
But atheists, they walk like *this*
HAW HAW HAW!!
2013-10-14 03:24:19 PM
8 votes:
"I think you can be an atheist who doesn't believe in an overarching being who created all of this and sees over it," Nyad said.

Well, yes, that is what the word generally means.
2013-10-14 05:04:13 PM
7 votes:

mgshamster: What's the converse?

i3.stycdn.net
It's a basketball shoe with a canvas upper, but that's not important right now.
2013-10-14 03:42:01 PM
7 votes:
I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.

I believe in god, and he is delicious.
2013-10-14 03:32:07 PM
7 votes:
I'm awestruck be the amount of idiocy in that article. So much compacted stupid.

cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?


This just in: People are allowed to have opinions. Go ahead, breathe slowly while you take it in...
2013-10-14 04:06:56 PM
6 votes:

Peter von Nostrand: I pity anyone that thinks what taco bell serves is good food


skepticsannotatedbible.com
2013-10-14 05:13:05 PM
5 votes:

mgshamster: JesseL: Elzar: Lionel Mandrake: cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?

She's never done anything to me personally, but she's a public person who publicly says stupid things and is therefore being publicly mocked and criticized.  It's part of the price that comes with being a media-made billionaire.

In fact thats how you become a media-made billionaire - by saying stupid things....

[img35.imageshack.us image 750x712]

I say stupid shiat all the time. What am I doing wrong?

You're not saying it with a large enough audience.  Also, the stupid things have to resonate with your audience.


Yep - weaponize and monetize your stupid sayings and you'll go places...

img823.imageshack.us
2013-10-14 04:32:17 PM
5 votes:
I felt wonder as an atheist, but I was clearly wrong. I'm lactose intolerant, so that's probably what it was.
2013-10-14 04:32:53 PM
4 votes:

scottydoesntknow: comhcinc: impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.

I believe in god, and he is delicious.

................I guess I believe in god too then. See you at church.

[www.yourcanopy.com image 850x637]

I don't think Taco Hell is best place for spiritual discovery


Even as an agnostic I've called out to god after eating Taco Bell.  Usually from the porcelain pew.
2013-10-14 07:41:34 PM
3 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: "I think if you believe in the awe and the wonder and the mystery that that is what God is. That is what God is. It's not a bearded guy in the sky."

What farking Bible is she reading?



gndn.files.wordpress.com

What a "bearded sky god" might look like.
2013-10-14 05:42:53 PM
3 votes:

Elzar: mgshamster: JesseL: Elzar: Lionel Mandrake: cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?

She's never done anything to me personally, but she's a public person who publicly says stupid things and is therefore being publicly mocked and criticized.  It's part of the price that comes with being a media-made billionaire.

In fact thats how you become a media-made billionaire - by saying stupid things....

[img35.imageshack.us image 750x712]

I say stupid shiat all the time. What am I doing wrong?

You're not saying it with a large enough audience.  Also, the stupid things have to resonate with your audience.

Yep - weaponize and monetize your stupid sayings and you'll go places...

[img823.imageshack.us image 800x248]


There's obviously a lot wrong with that argument, but what immediately occurred to me is that you certainly can cut blue light in half: half of blue is somewhere in the UV range. Of course, you can't see UV, but it is there.

Wait a minute... you can't see God either. But.... So....

Oh. Oh wow.

MIND = BLOWN.
2013-10-14 05:15:40 PM
3 votes:

cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?


Ever been around a group of women who worship her?  She's douchebag patient zero in the epidemic of self-entitled douchebags.
2013-10-14 05:04:14 PM
3 votes:

henryhill: Alot of people work at night. Got something stupid to say about that?


Yes. "alot" is not a word.
2013-10-14 04:58:27 PM
3 votes:

Buttknuckle: Oprah is a very wise, intelligent lady.  She's also human and extremely successful, so all you haters can SUCK IT.



That's nice, sweetie.  Now shouldn't you start dinner before your husband comes home from work?
2013-10-14 04:58:11 PM
3 votes:

Buttknuckle: Oprah is a very wise, intelligent lady.  She's also human and extremely successful, so all you haters can SUCK IT.


Dude, if I was going to make bets on who would actually turn out to be lizard people, Oprah is at the top of that list.
2013-10-14 04:44:35 PM
3 votes:

69gnarkill69: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]
[www.fdacast.com.br image 400x398]


That's funny.  I guess there's just something about her face that brings to mind 60s sci-fi.

img.fark.net
2013-10-14 04:41:49 PM
3 votes:

JesseL: Oprah has a problem with atheists because she has a messiah complex.


Is "messiah" a flavor of gravy?
2013-10-14 04:25:57 PM
3 votes:

cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?


She coloured me purple.
2013-10-14 03:17:09 PM
3 votes:
I love it when Oprah acts like she's got it all figured out.
2013-10-14 03:13:57 PM
3 votes:
This just in: Oprah Winfrey is a judgmental f*cking idiot
2013-10-14 08:06:25 PM
2 votes:

cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?


She made my life hell after she spent five minutes in the shop where I work. All I did was recommend a handbag that was better made and less expensive than the one she had in mind and she accused me of being a racist.

farking cow.
2013-10-14 07:41:19 PM
2 votes:
Religion is neanderthal science.

let's get with the times people.
2013-10-14 06:44:01 PM
2 votes:
"Spiritual" is a term of fluffy minded people from many backgrounds. But the spiritual person probably doesn't have the chops to argue atheism with a media figure. But even better is to know how to shutdown or redirect an argument.  A little bit of coaching for her would be "Don't talk spirit or religion" or "If someone brings up religion simply say 'that's not a topic I talk about'."

That being said....

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And as long as I'm posting silly pictures...

scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net

It's normally not worth debating people.
2013-10-14 05:43:33 PM
2 votes:
What a biatch. I wouldn't have sold her that purse, either.
2013-10-14 05:34:50 PM
2 votes:
I'm awestruck whenever I see a kid with cancer.

Or I see a mosquito, on its way to infect a child with malaria.
2013-10-14 05:29:45 PM
2 votes:

lockers: mgshamster:

Half of blue is somewhere in the ultraviolet range.

I'm pretty sure half of blue is bl


If you count characters, sure, but what if you measure by amount of ink needed. Maybe half of blue is blue. Or you could go by height and half of blue is blue.

That word has pretty much lost all meaning to me by now.
2013-10-14 05:21:40 PM
2 votes:
I've had a lap dance from both Awe and Wonder. There is a God.
2013-10-14 05:20:02 PM
2 votes:
The only thing bigger than Oprah's ego is her butt.
2013-10-14 05:18:20 PM
2 votes:

Elzar: mgshamster: JesseL: Elzar: Lionel Mandrake: cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?

She's never done anything to me personally, but she's a public person who publicly says stupid things and is therefore being publicly mocked and criticized.  It's part of the price that comes with being a media-made billionaire.

In fact thats how you become a media-made billionaire - by saying stupid things....

[img35.imageshack.us image 750x712]

I say stupid shiat all the time. What am I doing wrong?

You're not saying it with a large enough audience.  Also, the stupid things have to resonate with your audience.

Yep - weaponize and monetize your stupid sayings and you'll go places...

[img823.imageshack.us image 800x248]


i457.photobucket.com
2013-10-14 05:03:03 PM
2 votes:

henryhill


Alot of people work at night. Got something stupid to say about that?


Nothing quite as stupid as "Alot".
2013-10-14 05:02:25 PM
2 votes:

impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.

I believe in god, and he is delicious.



"If God dwells inside us like some people say, I sure hope He likes enchiladas, because that's what He's getting."

- Jack Handy
2013-10-14 04:53:13 PM
2 votes:
For years, Oprah pushed "The Secret", quasi-religious new age bullshiat that follows the same principles as the name it and claim it evangelical Christian movement.

The fact that she is unable to comprehend atheism doesn't surprise me in the least. You could probably shiat into your hand, and tell her it's a youth-affirming face mask, and she'd rub it all over her.
2013-10-14 04:51:41 PM
2 votes:

jaytkay: Diana Nyad in the 1970s

[queerty-prodweb.s3.amazonaws.com image 480x670]


global3.memecdn.com
2013-10-14 04:46:56 PM
2 votes:

comhcinc: Shostie: Englebert Slaptyback: comhcinc

impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.

I believe in god, and he is delicious.

................I guess I believe in god too then. See you at church.


WAIT WAIT WAIT

In the future, all restaurants are Taco Bell. That must mean... that the prophecies are true and tacos is/are the one true god!!

AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

*crashes through window*

*flees to Burger King*

So... In the grand pantheon of restaurant gods, what are the combo Taco Bell/Long John Silver restaurants?

Never seen one of those. We have Taco Bell/KFCs around here. They get annoyed when you ask for gravy on your tacos.


We have Taco Bell/KFC/Pizza Huts, aka Kentaco Hut

/gravy on tacos.  Hmmmmm.......
2013-10-14 04:40:54 PM
2 votes:

cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?


No, she grabbed it and ate it.
2013-10-14 04:39:22 PM
2 votes:

impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.

I believe in god, and he is delicious.


Surely, then, this is the Anti-Christ

blogs.babble.com
2013-10-14 04:28:59 PM
2 votes:
i.qkme.me
2013-10-14 04:27:57 PM
2 votes:

comhcinc


impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.

I believe in god, and he is delicious.

................I guess I believe in god too then. See you at church.


WAIT WAIT WAIT

In the future, all restaurants are Taco Bell. That must mean... that the prophecies are true and tacos is/are the one true god!!

AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

*crashes through window*

*flees to Burger King*
2013-10-14 04:25:11 PM
2 votes:
Hello money trees!
2013-10-14 04:19:07 PM
2 votes:

LasersHurt: Christ did ANY of you watch the video? It's a little fluffy but neither of them were horrible.


Yes I did and you are wrong.
2013-10-14 04:17:36 PM
2 votes:

Soup4Bonnie: The last time I got suckered into watching Oprah, she had the entire cast of Crash on and they were all talking about what a moving experience it was because it dealt with race and then holy shiat I saw the movie and wanted to punch everyone and Oprah twice.  Maybe even kick her.

fark Oprah.  fark Crash.  God damn that movie sucked.


I hate that they named that movie Crash, because any time anyone mentions it, I think of the Cronenberg adaptation of the JG Ballard novel. Which is TOTALLY different.
2013-10-14 04:14:56 PM
2 votes:
i236.photobucket.com

Hello Trees.
2013-10-14 04:14:53 PM
2 votes:
The last time I got suckered into watching Oprah, she had the entire cast of Crash on and they were all talking about what a moving experience it was because it dealt with race and then holy shiat I saw the movie and wanted to punch everyone and Oprah twice.  Maybe even kick her.

fark Oprah.  fark Crash.  God damn that movie sucked.
2013-10-14 03:17:49 PM
2 votes:
"Hello trees"

I think that some would say that talking with plants and animals might classify her as a witch.
2013-10-15 08:30:30 AM
1 votes:
I have a pretty simple rule.

Is it is on Oprah? Then it's stupid.
2013-10-14 11:12:08 PM
1 votes:
tjsands1118:
The one True Church.

Friends, lend me your ear, I have came from the West to preach the word of a man, a man born of Taco, a man named John.

He fried for our sins.
/Our tasty tasty sins.


static.flickr.com

/Your blasphemous website refused to post a picture of the true word
2013-10-14 10:40:02 PM
1 votes:
AFTER MAKEUP:

www.rawstory.com

BEFORE MAKEUP:

www.chud.com
2013-10-14 10:16:43 PM
1 votes:
My Lord and Savior:

www.toliveandeatinla.com

And my holy books:

mizsuzee.files.wordpress.com

images.forbes.com

When Jesus, Mohammed or Moses can whip me up a batch of Le Halle's osso bruco, then we'll talk.
2013-10-14 09:52:29 PM
1 votes:
BIG NEWS!!! An atheist finally said something stupid.
2013-10-14 09:41:42 PM
1 votes:

LasersHurt: fluffy2097: Isn't it amazing, Fark Atheists?

A person of faith has way more money then you could ever dream of, even though you're right and she's wrong!

/I guess you'll just have to rely on your charm and good manners to make money.
//God help you. You'll need it.

Why are you arbitrarily comparing religion and money?


Prosperity Gospel?
2013-10-14 08:09:24 PM
1 votes:
69gnarkill69:See this guy? He was a Priest who had WAY more faith than Oprah.
He molested 200 deaf boys. Your argument is invalid.

[journeyofacdi.com image 576x432]

I'm sure they didn't hear him coming.

/Yes, someone probably already said that before, it had to be said again.
2013-10-14 07:48:12 PM
1 votes:

fluffy2097: Isn't it amazing, Fark Atheists?

A person of faith has way more money then you could ever dream of, even though you're right and she's wrong!

/I guess you'll just have to rely on your charm and good manners to make money.
//God help you. You'll need it.


So if someone finds an atheist worth more than Oprah does that invalidate Chistianity, or do you just not understand how things work?
2013-10-14 07:42:43 PM
1 votes:

autopsybeverage: So if Taco Bell predates Del Taco, does that make Taco Bell Jewish or is Del Taco Protestant? This is all very confusing.


Taco Bell serves pulled pork, Del Taco does not. Read into that what you will.

I have not the faintest idea whether this is true.
Ant
2013-10-14 07:40:42 PM
1 votes:

edmo: Gyrfalcon: I'm not sure why so many atheists seem to think that "god" begins and ends with the Judeo-Christian "god", but there you go.

So you're saying there's more than one God?


I don't believe in any of them. All invisible things look alike anyway.
2013-10-14 07:26:55 PM
1 votes:

wildcardjack: "Spiritual" is a term of fluffy minded people from many backgrounds. But the spiritual person probably doesn't have the chops to argue atheism with a media figure.


Spiritualism is religion for people with commitment issues.
2013-10-14 06:53:41 PM
1 votes:

Badgers: Elzar:[img.fark.net image 800x248]

This person has obviously never heard of prisms.


Pftftftftft!  God created the rainbow to remind man that he would never ever flood the whole planet again after that whole Noah debacle.

My mother taught me this when I was a child. She's a JW.
Ant
2013-10-14 06:53:31 PM
1 votes:

letrole: Atheism is a Religion.


i.qkme.me
Shut the fark up, Le Trole. You're out of your element.
2013-10-14 06:44:43 PM
1 votes:

cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?


nine posts in ?
2013-10-14 06:41:35 PM
1 votes:

jst3p: mgshamster: I should be in the kitchen: She sounds like a Humanist. Ain't nothing wrong with that!

I have spoken with many deeply religious individuals who truly can't wrap their heads around the fact that you can be in awe of nature and the mysteries of the universe WITHOUT belief in some diety. And it's impossible to explain it in a way they could truly understand, just as it's impossible to explain God in a way that would make me believe.

I doubt that. If I were to explain God as, "This right here is God," followed by a visual/physical presentation of God itself, I'm sure you would believe.

Now, the tricky part is actually finding such a being that fits religious descriptions, but if I could, I'm sure you would start believing.

You know it was a lot easier in the Old Testament. God showed up all the damn time. As a burning bush, made a game out of torturing Job to prove a point to Satan, the pillar of smoke and fire, he was bringing down fire and brimstone to level towns that had orgies, plagues that were obviously his work.

Now that just about everyone on the planet has a cell phone and can take pictures or video on a moments notice farker goes radio silent, and we are supposed to see him in a goddamn sunset. What the hell is that? There is a sunset every single day? Is God just getting lazy, mailing it in like Randy Moss on a play not designed to go to him?


IMO, God jumped the shark when he showed up on a grilled cheese sandwich. I mean, grilled cheese sandwiches are delicious but I felt he was really phoning it in at that point.
2013-10-14 06:40:52 PM
1 votes:

bigbobowski: help me, what am I supposed to hate again? Oprah or Taco Bell?


Well, Oprah spelled backwards is Harpo, which is the name of her production company  and the name of the silent Marx Brother.

But Taco Bell is an anagram for Cello Tab, which is good if you want to learn how to play songs.

Oprah has her own TV channel.

Taco Bell has its own Doritos flavor.

Oprah gives out free cars, only for people to find out they're going to accrue a gift tax on them.

Taco Bell gives out free video game systems, only for people to find out they're going to spend all night in the bathroom.

Oprah starred in "The Color Purple."

Taco Bell starred in "Demolition Man."

Make of that information what you will. I can guide you no further.
Ant
2013-10-14 06:30:01 PM
1 votes:
"Well, I don't call you an atheist then," Winfrey replied. "I think if you believe in the awe and the wonder and the mystery that that is what God is. That is what God is. It's not a bearded guy in the sky."

This is like when my drunk dipshiat of a stepfather told our black next-door-neighbor "I don't really consider you as black because you don't act like a thug or rob people or anything"
2013-10-14 06:06:04 PM
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Winfrey agreed: "Well, I believe that and feel that so deeply. It's why every time I enter my yard or leave, I say, 'Hello trees bees!'"

FTFOprah

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2013-10-14 06:02:13 PM
1 votes:
help me, what am I supposed to hate again? Oprah or Taco Bell?
2013-10-14 06:01:30 PM
1 votes:

comhcinc: impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.

I believe in god, and he is delicious.

................I guess I believe in god too then. See you at church.

[www.yourcanopy.com image 850x637]


HERETIC!

www.berryneonsigns.com

The one True Church.
2013-10-14 05:53:44 PM
1 votes:

mgshamster: Half of blue is somewhere in the ultraviolet range.


jst3p: Half of blew is when her room mate walked in on us so she didn't finish.


lockers: I'm pretty sure half of blue is bl


I May Be Crazy But...: Or possibly blue in dim lighting.


I May Be Crazy But...: If you count characters, sure, but what if you measure by amount of ink needed. Maybe half of blue is blue. Or you could go by height and half of blue is blue.

That word has pretty much lost all meaning to me by now.


Semantics can be fun, but if we think about it, these all have very real meanings and explanations for defining "half of blue" (or blew, as one case may be).

Defining terms can be very important when trying to convey thoughts and ideas.  The other week I was in a conversation with a theist who was trying to convince me that he had proof of God.  He started his proof with a question, "Do you believe in graffiti?" I was unable to respond, because I didn't know what he meant. I asked him to clarify, and he became confused. He didn't understand how I could be confused by his question.

So I elaborated: "What do you mean by 'believe'? I have seen many differing definitions. I've seen some people define the word as having faith without evidence. In this context, there's no need to believe in graffiti; clearly it exists. You just have to walk around any major city or wait for a cargo train to go by to see it. I've seen other definitions that go back to a root system of overarching belief systems, to the point where every though process is tantamount to a belief; as in, 'it requires belief to trust that your eyes are seeing the electromagnetic signals and your brain s converting those signals to the proper image.' In this context, everything you see is based on belief, so everyone would 'believe' in graffiti.  Under the assumptions of an objective reality, one typically does not need to belief in graffiti; the mere observation should be enough to convince everyone that it exists. Under the assumptions of a subjective reality, it might take a bit more.

"Now, that's just talking about the existence of graffiti. What if we take it to a different context? What if we talk about graffiti as viable art, or graffiti as a tool for social change?  What if we talk about the word itself?  A simple question can lead to some very profound discussions and the simple context can easily change the meaning of the word."

Of course, I knew what he was getting at.  He was trying to make the claim that I only believe what I can see in front of me. It's a classic argument used against non-believers.  So he changed his question, "How do you know graffiti exists?"

Well. The simple answer is: It can be seen. The complex answer is: It can be observed by multiple observations instruments (eyes, touch, smell, analytical instrumentation, etc...); these observations can be reliably and readily repeated by multiple instruments and observers to confirm the existence of graffiti; and the technique of creating graffiti is not only well known and can be repeated, but also follow all currently known laws of physics and chemistry, as well as all reasonable logic.

After that, he accused me of using semantics to derail the conversation and simply told me to read the bible, for proof of God was in there.  I haven't heard from him since.
2013-10-14 05:53:40 PM
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gilgigamesh: Elzar: mgshamster: JesseL: Elzar: Lionel Mandrake: cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?

She's never done anything to me personally, but she's a public person who publicly says stupid things and is therefore being publicly mocked and criticized.  It's part of the price that comes with being a media-made billionaire.

In fact thats how you become a media-made billionaire - by saying stupid things....

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I say stupid shiat all the time. What am I doing wrong?

You're not saying it with a large enough audience.  Also, the stupid things have to resonate with your audience.

Yep - weaponize and monetize your stupid sayings and you'll go places...

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There's obviously a lot wrong with that argument, but what immediately occurred to me is that you certainly can cut blue light in half: half of blue is somewhere in the UV range. Of course, you can't see UV, but it is there.

Wait a minute... you can't see God either. But.... So....

Oh. Oh wow.

MIND = BLOWN.


Plus you get a double rainbow - one seen, one unseen

/ What does it mean?
2013-10-14 05:33:54 PM
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I May Be Crazy But...: lockers: mgshamster:

Half of blue is somewhere in the ultraviolet range.

I'm pretty sure half of blue is bl

If you count characters, sure, but what if you measure by amount of ink needed. Maybe half of blue is blue. Or you could go by height and half of blue is blue.

That word has pretty much lost all meaning to me by now.


You should have stopped at just half the meaning.
2013-10-14 05:32:55 PM
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mgshamster: I should be in the kitchen: She sounds like a Humanist. Ain't nothing wrong with that!

I have spoken with many deeply religious individuals who truly can't wrap their heads around the fact that you can be in awe of nature and the mysteries of the universe WITHOUT belief in some diety. And it's impossible to explain it in a way they could truly understand, just as it's impossible to explain God in a way that would make me believe.

I doubt that. If I were to explain God as, "This right here is God," followed by a visual/physical presentation of God itself, I'm sure you would believe.

Now, the tricky part is actually finding such a being that fits religious descriptions, but if I could, I'm sure you would start believing.


You know it was a lot easier in the Old Testament. God showed up all the damn time. As a burning bush, made a game out of torturing Job to prove a point to Satan, the pillar of smoke and fire, he was bringing down fire and brimstone to level towns that had orgies, plagues that were obviously his work.

Now that just about everyone on the planet has a cell phone and can take pictures or video on a moments notice farker goes radio silent, and we are supposed to see him in a goddamn sunset. What the hell is that? There is a sunset every single day? Is God just getting lazy, mailing it in like Randy Moss on a play not designed to go to him?
2013-10-14 05:32:34 PM
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<BillCosby>
"Well, y'see, with the derpin' an' the herpin', an' all, they get down to the bizness of puttin' the herpin' in the derpin', so they end up with a big ol' herpaderp, there. And that's how it's done."
</BillCosby>

These days, "atheist" appears to mean "anybody who isn't an extreme Calvinist". I guess the Evangelical Christians and the evangelical atheists have both won. Let's have them kiss and make up, just to piss them both off.
2013-10-14 05:29:01 PM
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meat0918: Dr. Whoof: Is it me or is Oprah in the pic in the article beginning to look like Oghra from the Dark Crystal?

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You get a Gelfling, and you get a gelfling, everyone gets a gelfling!!!!!


Oprah viewer:

www.onlyforever.com
2013-10-14 05:22:00 PM
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2013-10-14 05:14:21 PM
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"I think if you believe in the awe and the wonder and the mystery that that is what God is. That is what God is. It's not a bearded guy in the sky."

What farking Bible is she reading?
2013-10-14 05:00:17 PM
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The_Sponge: Buttknuckle: Oprah is a very wise, intelligent lady.  She's also human and extremely successful, so all you haters can SUCK IT.


That's nice, sweetie.  Now shouldn't you start dinner before your husband comes home from work?


After you leave your mom's basement.
2013-10-14 04:55:57 PM
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Oprah is a very wise, intelligent lady.  She's also human and extremely successful, so all you haters can SUCK IT.
2013-10-14 04:55:52 PM
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Should have told Oprah that she's going to hell for being a carpet muncher.


/let her chew on that for a while

2013-10-14 04:53:30 PM
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gaslight: Dear everyone: Oprah's show is for people who are at home during the day. By definition, if you have some kind of brain, you are not at home during the day, you're at work. So, her show is for morons.

Interpret everything on that show under this light, please.


I work from home, so I'm not sure what to think.  Halp?
2013-10-14 04:50:13 PM
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The_Sponge: What's wrong with that?  Balloons are a sign that clowns are close by.

*Shudder*


She says it is because when they pop they sound like  guns and she doesn't like guns, so she hates balloons.

Which makes about as much sense as not liking a specific color of person because so many of them commit crimes.

Thanks, Oprah, I got it from you!
2013-10-14 04:49:51 PM
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"AND  YOU GET A BIBLE......AND YOU GET A BIBLE.....AND YOU GET A BIBLE.....AND YOU GET A BIBLE.....AND YOU GET A BIBLE.....AND YOU GET A BIBLE.....AND YOU GET A BIBLE.....EVERYONE GETS A BIBLE!!!!"
2013-10-14 04:49:42 PM
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cman [TotalFark]


Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?

Good godparticle. You're white-knighting oprah?
2013-10-14 04:46:56 PM
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FarkinNortherner: comhcinc: ................I guess I believe in god too then. See you at church.

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INFIDEL!

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Taco Bell was founded in 1962, that Heathen Del Taco was not started in touch 1964.

BOW DOWN TO THE ONE TRUE GOD!
2013-10-14 04:40:15 PM
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Oprah has a problem with atheists because she has a messiah complex.
2013-10-14 04:39:50 PM
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As old Buddhist saying of: shiat happens. Get used to it.

Well at least the swimmer didn't call out Oprah on how her fellow 'Christians' keep murdering the people of the Middle East. Because that would of been awe-some and wonder-full.
2013-10-14 04:39:31 PM
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vudukungfu: /She's afraid of balloons, for krissakes.



What's wrong with that?  Balloons are a sign that clowns are close by.

*Shudder*
2013-10-14 04:35:32 PM
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out of a

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Based on the article itself.

But I know it's important for everyone to work themselves into a lather at least twice a day.
2013-10-14 04:35:08 PM
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To paraphrase Doug Stanhope: If within 5 minutes of meeting you I know if you're a christian OR an atheist, you're a farkin asshole.
2013-10-14 04:34:27 PM
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Dr. Whoof: Is it me or is Oprah in the pic in the article beginning to look like Oghra from the Dark Crystal?


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Maybe...but I prefer the salt creature from Star Trek.
2013-10-14 04:33:57 PM
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cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?


No, but I saw her spit on yours. Then she dried it off. With her wrinkled, prunish, crusty ladybits.
2013-10-14 04:33:49 PM
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Babbs: What's the difference between God and Oprah?
God doesn't believe he's Oprah.


Oprah has slightly more money?
2013-10-14 04:28:49 PM
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If there's an overarching being, it's one sick, sick farker.
Kind of like Q.
2013-10-14 04:17:26 PM
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Christ did ANY of you watch the video? It's a little fluffy but neither of them were horrible.
2013-10-14 03:34:52 PM
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You can believe about anything and still be an atheist, with one notable exception.
2013-10-14 03:25:03 PM
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Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?
2013-10-14 03:16:46 PM
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MaudlinMutantMollusk: This just in: Oprah Winfrey is a judgmental f*cking idiot


Brevity is the soul of wit.

Jesus that woman has always annoyed me.  I have never understood her popularity.
 
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