If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(The Raw Story)   Oprah tells atheist swimmer that she can't believe in "awe" and "wonder". And the atheist's response is just as stupid. Popcorn, anyone?   (rawstory.com) divider line 332
    More: Dumbass, Diana Nyad, Oprah Winfrey, atheist swimmer, Oprah Winfrey Network, atheists  
•       •       •

20762 clicks; posted to Main » on 14 Oct 2013 at 4:22 PM (38 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



332 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-10-14 07:08:11 PM
You know who I kind of like?  Joyce Meyers.
I like her much better than Oprah.
 
2013-10-14 07:10:19 PM
I guess if you don't believe, then you never get surprised!
 
2013-10-14 07:13:41 PM

Voiceofreason01: MaudlinMutantMollusk: This just in: Oprah Winfrey is a judgmental f*cking idiot

sounds like subby is in good company


Yes, but I'm an atheist: we're not supposed to do anything right

/sheesh... took long enough for someone to catch that
 
2013-10-14 07:14:14 PM
Isn't it amazing, Fark Atheists?

A person of faith has way more money then you could ever dream of, even though you're right and she's wrong!

/I guess you'll just have to rely on your charm and good manners to make money.
//God help you. You'll need it.
 
2013-10-14 07:14:18 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: comhcinc

impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.

I believe in god, and he is delicious.

................I guess I believe in god too then. See you at church.


WAIT WAIT WAIT

In the future, all restaurants are Taco Bell. That must mean... that the prophecies are true and tacos is/are the one true god!!

AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

*crashes through window*

*flees to Burger King*


Beat me to it.

/Taco Bell
 
Ant
2013-10-14 07:15:17 PM

Cletus C.: I'm an atheist and I don't believe that was an insult.


It was definitely an insult. She's basically saying that, according to her, atheists are dead inside and are incapable of wonder and awe. At the very least it was extremely patronizing.
 
Ant
2013-10-14 07:19:07 PM

Anayalator: Holy sacrament:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x400]

I believe.


You're joking, but at the Mormon Church my evil stepmother forced me to attend when I was about 8, they used Wonderbread and water as the body and blood of Christ.
 
2013-10-14 07:20:46 PM

Ant: Cletus C.: I'm an atheist and I don't believe that was an insult.

It was definitely an insult. She's basically saying that, according to her, atheists are dead inside and are incapable of wonder and awe. At the very least it was extremely patronizing.


I don't believe I care. My not believing pretty much defining me.

But seriously, am I supposed to be concerned that people who worship an unseen being based on some bullshiat tales spun centuries ago and rewritten and reinterpreted into oblivion think poorly of me?
 
2013-10-14 07:23:03 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: jso2897: I experience wonder, as an atheist.
I wonder why the religious folks need for me to believe in their imaginary bosses too.
Their gods either exist or they don't - my belief has no bearing on the matter.
Or, one would think it wouldn't.

Maybe that's the secret. Gods get power from belief, and if they don't have belief they stop existing. So they fight over believers. That's why Commandment number one is no other gods. That's why "Allah is the only god". And some of the eastern gods got clever and went with "all gods are aspects of the true god".

Now we're onto them! We have the power now. We can start extorting miracles from them.


reminds me of the book "The Great Game"
 
2013-10-14 07:23:07 PM

fluffy2097: Isn't it amazing, Fark Atheists?

A person of faith has way more money then you could ever dream of, even though you're right and she's wrong!

/I guess you'll just have to rely on your charm and good manners to make money.
//God help you. You'll need it.


Why are you arbitrarily comparing religion and money?
 
2013-10-14 07:26:36 PM
atheism: the new cult for whiners and the intellectually lazy
 
Ant
2013-10-14 07:26:40 PM

fluffy2097: Isn't it amazing, Fark Atheists?

A person of faith has way more money than you could ever dream of, even though you're right and she's wrong!

/I guess you'll just have to rely on your charm and good manners to make money.
//God help you. You'll need it.


I'm going to force myself to believe the unbelievable so I can make more money!
 
2013-10-14 07:26:55 PM

wildcardjack: "Spiritual" is a term of fluffy minded people from many backgrounds. But the spiritual person probably doesn't have the chops to argue atheism with a media figure.


Spiritualism is religion for people with commitment issues.
 
2013-10-14 07:27:56 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.

I believe in god, and he is delicious.

Surely, then, this is the Anti-Christ

[blogs.babble.com image 257x364]


It is a goddamn injustice there are no JITB up here in New England. Dammit, dammit, dammit.
 
Ant
2013-10-14 07:29:04 PM

Proteios1: atheism: the new cult for whiners and the intellectually lazy


Did you hurt yourself coming up with that? It must've taken some pretty severe mental contortions to be able to call atheists intellectually lazy.
 
2013-10-14 07:31:33 PM

Corvus: Sorry what did the atheist say was stupid?

I guess I missed it.
Relatively Obscure: "I think sunsets are pretty."

"THAT'S WHAT GOD IS SO YOU NOW BELIEVE IN GOD AHAHAHAHA"

Well I've had Farkers yell at me saying you can't believe in the supernatural and be an atheist too.


Oh yes, I've had Farkers tell me that because I believed in a deity, that meant I could not accept scientific theory; and that if I did, it meant I was either a hypocrite or insane.

I'm not sure why so many atheists seem to think that "god" begins and ends with the Judeo-Christian "god", but there you go.
 
2013-10-14 07:35:12 PM
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-10-14 07:35:25 PM

Gyrfalcon: I'm not sure why so many atheists seem to think that "god" begins and ends with the Judeo-Christian "god", but there you go.


So you're saying there's more than one God?
 
2013-10-14 07:37:59 PM

Gyrfalcon: I'm not sure why so many atheists seem to think that "god" begins and ends with the Judeo-Christian "god", but there you go.


Because that's the god they don't believe in.  If you believe god=flowers then most atheists likely believe in your god.
 
2013-10-14 07:40:33 PM

Gyrfalcon: I'm not sure why so many atheists seem to think that "god" begins and ends with the Judeo-Christian "god", but there you go.


I'm quite certain it just seems this way because you primarily interact with Westerners, who are immersed in primarily Judeo-Christian religion.
 
Ant
2013-10-14 07:40:42 PM

edmo: Gyrfalcon: I'm not sure why so many atheists seem to think that "god" begins and ends with the Judeo-Christian "god", but there you go.

So you're saying there's more than one God?


I don't believe in any of them. All invisible things look alike anyway.
 
2013-10-14 07:41:15 PM

DominaNY: [encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 359x140]


[le-master-ruseman.jpg]
 
2013-10-14 07:41:19 PM
Religion is neanderthal science.

let's get with the times people.
 
2013-10-14 07:41:34 PM

HotWingConspiracy: "I think if you believe in the awe and the wonder and the mystery that that is what God is. That is what God is. It's not a bearded guy in the sky."

What farking Bible is she reading?



gndn.files.wordpress.com

What a "bearded sky god" might look like.
 
2013-10-14 07:42:25 PM

mgshamster: Corvus: Sorry what did the atheist say was stupid?

I guess I missed it.
Relatively Obscure: "I think sunsets are pretty."

"THAT'S WHAT GOD IS SO YOU NOW BELIEVE IN GOD AHAHAHAHA"

Well I've had Farkers yell at me saying you can't believe in the supernatural and be an atheist too.

As an atheist and a scientist, let me assure you that a person absolutely can be an atheist and believe in the supernatural.

Atheism va theism is a question of one's belief in a deity or deities.  We don't really have word choices for those who do/don't believe in the non-deity supernatural things.  "Skeptic," maybe, but that word can be used for a lot of other things besides just the supernatural (e.g. conspiracies, aliens among us, etc...)


To add to that "atheism" is a catch all, from the completely non mystical to very religious(but lacking belief in a specific diety).

Most common usage though, is "operating without faith/beliefs" as it pertains to the supernatural.  People will quibble over different definitions, but that's what most people mean when they say it.

Kinda how like black people are not actually black, but brownish.   White people are not actually white unless they have a condition, they are pale pink to orange.

I lay the blame on people with a mistaken perception.  They think the dictionary is the ultimate dictator of what words mean, and refuse to acknowledge context and common usage.  What the dictionary actually for is to describe language, and in it's very nature it's outdated.

What matters is how people use WordX currently and commonly.

A billion people call atheist "completely non mystical" and that's what it means, regardless of what some stuffy english scholar or dusty book says.  It may have begun as a misunderstanding, but once it gains popular usage, that's the way it is.


That's why pedantic arguments get old really really fast.  Very commonly the first option for people who don't otherwise have an argument.(like religious people arguing against atheists).

So willing to "prove" them wrong, but unable, they'll quickly equivocate(as a fallacy) about what an atheist "really" is, and how that person isn't one, therefore the religious person "wins"(a delusional position, obviously, but hey, at least they're reliable).
 
2013-10-14 07:42:43 PM

autopsybeverage: So if Taco Bell predates Del Taco, does that make Taco Bell Jewish or is Del Taco Protestant? This is all very confusing.


Taco Bell serves pulled pork, Del Taco does not. Read into that what you will.

I have not the faintest idea whether this is true.
 
2013-10-14 07:43:44 PM

letrole: Atheism is a Religion.


By some definitions... I do know people, self labeled atheists, who BELIEVE that there is-no-can-be-no God. I am an abeliefist. I do not believe in any god, I do not believe there is no god. I dont BELIEVE in the big bang, evolution, a spherical earth, or gravity. To all things, I look for evidence, listen to other humans, and develop a statistical level of confidence. My current assessment of supreme beings, is I dont know, or much care, but there seems a possible chance that there is/was a god who created things all at once, with all that we see as natural laws. But then she/he/it stepped back, maybe watches, and just laughs when I spill my coffee. Or maybe there is a god like Bender met in the "Godfellows" episode of Futurama. If you look at the Universe, it look illogical to KNOW that there is no creator, because a creator could certainly hide beyond our ability to find.

But the popular religions, hell those are just stupid.
 
2013-10-14 07:44:14 PM

Cletus C.: moralpanic: cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?

Oprah makes a comment that insults a group of people (atheist) and you don't understand why people would be upset?

I'm an atheist and I don't believe that was an insult.


Saying that you can't believe in awe and wonder because you're an atheist is not an insult to you? No wonder i have you tagged as 'moron'.

img42.imageshack.us
 
2013-10-14 07:47:50 PM

fusillade762: wildcardjack: "Spiritual" is a term of fluffy minded people from many backgrounds. But the spiritual person probably doesn't have the chops to argue atheism with a media figure.

Spiritualism is religion for people with commitment issues.


I've often thought that, but I honestly think that some folks call such evanescent emotional experiences "spiritualism" because they lack a single, simple word to describe such experiences in a secular manner. One can experience awe, wonder, and other emotions without requiring the construct of a deity - or, indeed, any supernatural power - to do so. It's a very humanist response - an experience within the human sphere, and one difficult to communicate.

What I find repugnant about Oprah's response is that it apparently never occurs to her that one can be humanist - you're either a theist or somehow emotionally crippled. Baffling to me.

Gyrfalcon: I'm not sure why so many atheists seem to think that "god" begins and ends with the Judeo-Christian "god", but there you go.


Odd - I find that most atheists seem to think that no such being, regardless of the catechism's source, exists. I've yet to encounter an atheist that says "well, I know the Judeo-Christian God doesn't exist, but I'm not too sure about fairies, kami, Allah, etc., etc." - you're talking about an agnostic at that point.

(Disclaimer: I'm an ignostic.)
 
2013-10-14 07:48:12 PM

fluffy2097: Isn't it amazing, Fark Atheists?

A person of faith has way more money then you could ever dream of, even though you're right and she's wrong!

/I guess you'll just have to rely on your charm and good manners to make money.
//God help you. You'll need it.


So if someone finds an atheist worth more than Oprah does that invalidate Chistianity, or do you just not understand how things work?
 
2013-10-14 07:58:05 PM

fluffy2097: Isn't it amazing, Fark Atheists?

A person of faith has way more money then you could ever dream of, even though you're right and she's wrong!

/I guess you'll just have to rely on your charm and good manners to make money.
//God help you. You'll need it.


See this guy? He was a Priest who had WAY more faith than Oprah.
He molested 200 deaf boys. Your argument is invalid.

journeyofacdi.com
 
2013-10-14 08:00:49 PM

FormlessOne: fusillade762: wildcardjack: "Spiritual" is a term of fluffy minded people from many backgrounds. But the spiritual person probably doesn't have the chops to argue atheism with a media figure.

Spiritualism is religion for people with commitment issues.

I've often thought that, but I honestly think that some folks call such evanescent emotional experiences "spiritualism" because they lack a single, simple word to describe such experiences in a secular manner. One can experience awe, wonder, and other emotions without requiring the construct of a deity - or, indeed, any supernatural power - to do so. It's a very humanist response - an experience within the human sphere, and one difficult to communicate.

What I find repugnant about Oprah's response is that it apparently never occurs to her that one can be humanist - you're either a theist or somehow emotionally crippled. Baffling to me.

Gyrfalcon: I'm not sure why so many atheists seem to think that "god" begins and ends with the Judeo-Christian "god", but there you go.

Odd - I find that most atheists seem to think that no such being, regardless of the catechism's source, exists. I've yet to encounter an atheist that says "well, I know the Judeo-Christian God doesn't exist, but I'm not too sure about fairies, kami, Allah, etc., etc." - you're talking about an agnostic at that point.

(Disclaimer: I'm an ignostic.)


I should say, or explain in more detail: They seem to think (at least the vocal annoying ones who make these kinds of remarks) that if one believes in a god, that one therefore accepts the tenets of the Judeo-Christian religion at face value--hence what I said about the Farker who assured me that if I believed in a deity it meant I couldn't believe in scientific method. Which is obviously not true, but apparently that person assumed that since I believe in a god that meant I believe in THE God and furthermore swallow all the current tripe the fundies are spewing.

This is not correct. Belief in a god doesn't require belief in "God" or belief in b/s coming from a pulpit. But some atheists seem to think that, I guess to assure themselves they are in the right.
 
2013-10-14 08:06:25 PM

cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?


She made my life hell after she spent five minutes in the shop where I work. All I did was recommend a handbag that was better made and less expensive than the one she had in mind and she accused me of being a racist.

farking cow.
 
2013-10-14 08:09:24 PM
69gnarkill69:See this guy? He was a Priest who had WAY more faith than Oprah.
He molested 200 deaf boys. Your argument is invalid.

[journeyofacdi.com image 576x432]

I'm sure they didn't hear him coming.

/Yes, someone probably already said that before, it had to be said again.
 
2013-10-14 08:09:40 PM

BSABSVR: So if someone finds an atheist worth more than Oprah does that invalidate Chistianity, or do you just not understand how things work?


Not hard, both Warren Buffett and Bill Gates have made statements suggesting that they are, at least, agnostics. Andrew Carnegie was an avowed atheist.
 
2013-10-14 08:10:44 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: MaudlinMutantMollusk: This just in: Oprah Winfrey is a judgmental f*cking idiot

Brevity is the soul of wit.

Jesus that woman has always annoyed me.  I have never understood her popularity.


What, you don't like her hotels and eateries or something? As i remember they're staffed mostly by whites.

She won three(maybe four, not sure) oppression Olympics events when she was younger and invested wisely to exploit middle/upper class urban((literally in this sense) probably ad a "sub" onto there but but for the startup cash/cache no)), women.

Also, the swimmer nailed it like i would love to witness and record for future reference, but won't watch vid because;

Oprah.

Over nine farking thousand.

Wifrey.
 
2013-10-14 08:27:46 PM

moralpanic: Cletus C.: moralpanic: cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this thread

What did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?

Oprah makes a comment that insults a group of people (atheist) and you don't understand why people would be upset?

I'm an atheist and I don't believe that was an insult.

Saying that you can't believe in awe and wonder because you're an atheist is not an insult to you? No wonder i have you tagged as 'moron'.

[img42.imageshack.us image 800x148]


<insert sound of disbelieving splutter followed by rollicking laughter>

You sure showed him! You didn't just tell him, you made yourself an image and showed him! When it comes to show and tell, you don't skimp on the effort! Because atheists everywhere should be outraged that their... uh... beliefs... uh... well, they are being made fun of by an uncomprehending Oprah! Down with Oprah! Down with morons who aren't offended!
 
2013-10-14 09:11:34 PM
wait can we uh focus on the tree thing.

Cause... wow man holy shiat. That's like pretty high up on the crazy scale. It's like she's in a kids book or something.
 
2013-10-14 09:41:42 PM

LasersHurt: fluffy2097: Isn't it amazing, Fark Atheists?

A person of faith has way more money then you could ever dream of, even though you're right and she's wrong!

/I guess you'll just have to rely on your charm and good manners to make money.
//God help you. You'll need it.

Why are you arbitrarily comparing religion and money?


Prosperity Gospel?
 
2013-10-14 09:44:24 PM
JohnnyApocalypse:
You sure showed him! You didn't just tell him, you made yourself an image and showed him! When it comes to show and tell, you don't skimp on the effort! Because atheists everywhere should be outraged that their... uh... beliefs... uh... well, they are being made fun of by an uncomprehending Oprah! Down with Oprah! Down with morons who aren't offended!

img32.imageshack.us
 
2013-10-14 09:52:29 PM
BIG NEWS!!! An atheist finally said something stupid.
 
2013-10-14 10:11:50 PM
Ahh never mind.
 
2013-10-14 10:16:43 PM
My Lord and Savior:

www.toliveandeatinla.com

And my holy books:

mizsuzee.files.wordpress.com

images.forbes.com

When Jesus, Mohammed or Moses can whip me up a batch of Le Halle's osso bruco, then we'll talk.
 
2013-10-14 10:23:37 PM
All you people saying god is tacos or trees or Oprah or whatever the hell else are ignorant farks.

We all know Lemy is God.
 
2013-10-14 10:25:37 PM

grumpfuff: All you people saying god is tacos or trees or Oprah or whatever the hell else are ignorant farks.

We all know Lemy is God.


Correction: Clapton.
 
2013-10-14 10:26:35 PM

Lionel Mandrake: LasersHurt: jake3988: MaudlinMutantMollusk * * Smartest * Funniest 2013-10-14 03:13:57 PM This just in: Oprah Winfrey is a judgmental f*cking idiot
===============================================

She's a christian. I've never met a single one that wasn't a judgemental idiot. Especially of atheists.

'How could you <insert stupid crap here> if you're an atheist? I certainly couldn't'.

Me: 'I'm not you, douchebag!'

That has always been superbly annoying.

"If you're an atheist, what keeps you from killing someone?"

I'm not a farking sociopath?

Seriously...there are apparently a lot of theists out there who would be baby-raping homicidal arsonists if they didn't believe in hell.


How in the hell can a baby light a match?
 
2013-10-14 10:39:53 PM

vudukungfu: SO, Oprah, how long have you been a fat AW for a living?
/She's afraid of balloons, for krissakes.


Is Oprah still a thing?
 
2013-10-14 10:40:02 PM
AFTER MAKEUP:

www.rawstory.com

BEFORE MAKEUP:

www.chud.com
 
2013-10-14 10:48:07 PM

Gyrfalcon: I'm not sure why so many atheists seem to think that "god" begins and ends with the Judeo-Christian "god", but there you go.


I'm not sure I've ever heard this point of view from anybody before you just now.
 
2013-10-14 11:02:08 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: grumpfuff: All you people saying god is tacos or trees or Oprah or whatever the hell else are ignorant farks.

We all know Lemy is God.

Correction: Clapton.


HEATHEN!
 
Displayed 50 of 332 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report