comhcinc: impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.I believe in god, and he is delicious.................I guess I believe in god too then. See you at church.[www.yourcanopy.com image 850x637]
mgshamster: Corvus: Sorry what did the atheist say was stupid?I guess I missed it.Relatively Obscure: "I think sunsets are pretty.""THAT'S WHAT GOD IS SO YOU NOW BELIEVE IN GOD AHAHAHAHA"Well I've had Farkers yell at me saying you can't believe in the supernatural and be an atheist too.As an atheist and a scientist, let me assure you that a person absolutely can be an atheist and believe in the supernatural.Atheism va theism is a question of one's belief in a deity or deities. We don't really have word choices for those who do/don't believe in the non-deity supernatural things. "Skeptic," maybe, but that word can be used for a lot of other things besides just the supernatural (e.g. conspiracies, aliens among us, etc...)
mgshamster: Semantics can be fun
Banned on the Run: comhcinc: Shostie: Englebert Slaptyback: comhcincimpaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.I believe in god, and he is delicious.................I guess I believe in god too then. See you at church.WAIT WAIT WAITIn the future, all restaurants are Taco Bell. That must mean... that the prophecies are true and tacos is/are the one true god!!AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!*crashes through window**flees to Burger King*So... In the grand pantheon of restaurant gods, what are the combo Taco Bell/Long John Silver restaurants?Never seen one of those. We have Taco Bell/KFCs around here. They get annoyed when you ask for gravy on your tacos.We have Taco Bell/KFC/Pizza Huts, aka Kentaco Hut/gravy on tacos. Hmmmmm.......
scottydoesntknow: Winfrey agreed: "Well, I believe that and feel that so deeply. It's why every time I enter my yard or leave, I say, 'Hello trees bees!'"FTFOprah[media.tumblr.com image 394x222]
The_Sponge: cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this threadWhat did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?She was in the movie "Beloved", and I had to read that awful book back in high school.....and I hate everything associated with said book./Movie came out when I was in college.
mbillips: mgshamster: Corvus: Sorry what did the atheist say was stupid?I guess I missed it.Relatively Obscure: "I think sunsets are pretty.""THAT'S WHAT GOD IS SO YOU NOW BELIEVE IN GOD AHAHAHAHA"Well I've had Farkers yell at me saying you can't believe in the supernatural and be an atheist too.As an atheist and a scientist, let me assure you that a person absolutely can be an atheist and believe in the supernatural.Atheism va theism is a question of one's belief in a deity or deities. We don't really have word choices for those who do/don't believe in the non-deity supernatural things. "Skeptic," maybe, but that word can be used for a lot of other things besides just the supernatural (e.g. conspiracies, aliens among us, etc...)Rubbish. If you believe in supernatural beings, there's absolutely no excuse for not believing in god(s), as there's equally convincing evidence. The indictment of theism is the question "How?" OK, God created the heavens and the earth in six days, but how'd he do it? Same thing goes for ghosts, werewolves, etc. If you're an atheist, you have to be a skeptic about beliefs for which there is no physical explanation.
mgshamster: Defining terms can be very important when trying to convey thoughts and ideas. The other week I was in a conversation with a theist who was trying to convince me that he had proof of God. He started his proof with a question, "Do you believe in graffiti?" I was unable to respond, because I didn't know what he meant. I asked him to clarify, and he became confused. He didn't understand how I could be confused by his question.
I May Be Crazy But...: mgshamster: Semantics can be funI was more thinking of it in terms of puns. You know, playing off different possible meanings of the words just for the sake of trying to be clever. Semantics is more... I don't know, boring.
cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this threadWhat did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?
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Thunderboy: letrole: Atheism is a Religion.You got in on this topic far too late. I live with my mom, may dog lift his leg on your sole.
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lockers: mgshamster: Defining terms can be very important when trying to convey thoughts and ideas. The other week I was in a conversation with a theist who was trying to convince me that he had proof of God. He started his proof with a question, "Do you believe in graffiti?" I was unable to respond, because I didn't know what he meant. I asked him to clarify, and he became confused. He didn't understand how I could be confused by his question.To a theist, belief is as good or better than evidence. In this context his question makes perfect sense. Sure you can see graffiti, but more importantly you believe in graffiti. What's better is that in the face of conflicting evidence the belief need not change. It's imagined analogy would be that just because banksy was shot doesn't mean that graffiti doesn't exist. In that same way god exists to him.Except you, being a rationalist see belief as subordinate to facts. It's okay to believe something unless evidence proves it dead wrong, but you don't hold that belief the same as proof. Graffiti exists to you because you drive by it everyday. You have no need to rely on some lesser positive assertion to crutch about the subject.This is likely why you were not even agree on the terms. You both use a word that has very different meaning to each other. That fundamental divide guarantees that the argument will devolve into a "semantic" one.
lockers: FloydA: I am constantly amazed that theists feel an irresistible need to re-define atheism to mean something other than "lack of belief in gods." That's what it means, and that is all it means. Why are believers so resistant to that definition?To theists, atheism is far worse than someone being a different religion. Atheists, to them, are effectively saying that all those things they cherish are delusional and childish. The more firmly you believe the more your going to demonize. A lack of belief is a real punch to the gut to those people.
Testiclaw: Soup4Bonnie: The last time I got suckered into watching Oprah, she had the entire cast of Crash on and they were all talking about what a moving experience it was because it dealt with race and then holy shiat I saw the movie and wanted to punch everyone and Oprah twice. Maybe even kick her.fark Oprah. fark Crash. God damn that movie sucked.I hated that movie. And people who were blown away by how deeeeep it was? I hate them, too.Also, I hate Oprah.
Misconduc: My wife watches Oprah, I find nothing entertaining or interesting about her. She is neither intelligent and in fact quite judge mental, to me she is nothing more then a rich over materialistic black woman.I would rather have a cup of coffee with a homeless veteran I see around the downtown area, the guy could recite plato or shakespeare - while homeless, he gets veterans into rehab and everything else (often asking me to drive them to VA hospitals etc).He doesn't want a dime, doesn't drink or spoke - chooses to be homeless because he enjoys traveling on trains and just doing odd jobs for cash while helping others.I just wish the guy would return, I hope he's alright last I heard he was traveling to Kansas.
Phil Moskowitz: Christians come in all flavour of monster.
CanisNoir: Oprah probably should have just taken the swimmer on her word and left it at that.
swaniefrmreddeer: What a stunned c*nt. This is why there is so much animosity directed at the religious by atheists. Religious people show no real awe and wonder, because god did it, no need to figure out what is really going on. Curiosity is the greatest human trait, without it we would still be living in caves.
moralpanic: cman: Christ there are a lot of Oprah bashers in this threadWhat did she ever do to you? Did she spit on your hamburger?Oprah makes a comment that insults a group of people (atheist) and you don't understand why people would be upset?
jake3988: MaudlinMutantMollusk * * Smartest * Funniest 2013-10-14 03:13:57 PM This just in: Oprah Winfrey is a judgmental f*cking idiot===============================================She's a christian. I've never met a single one that wasn't a judgemental idiot. Especially of atheists.'How could you <insert stupid crap here> if you're an atheist? I certainly couldn't'.Me: 'I'm not you, douchebag!'
I May Be Crazy But...: It looks like the whole point of that bit was to talk about it.
impaler: I have redefined "god" to mean "tacos," so anyone that believes in tacos is not an atheist.I believe in god, and he is delicious.
Ant: "Well, I don't call you an atheist then," Winfrey replied. "I think if you believe in the awe and the wonder and the mystery that that is what God is. That is what God is. It's not a bearded guy in the sky."This is like when my drunk dipshiat of a stepfather told our black next-door-neighbor "I don't really consider you as black because you don't act like a thug or rob people or anything"
bigbobowski: help me, what am I supposed to hate again? Oprah or Taco Bell?
jst3p: mgshamster: I should be in the kitchen: She sounds like a Humanist. Ain't nothing wrong with that!I have spoken with many deeply religious individuals who truly can't wrap their heads around the fact that you can be in awe of nature and the mysteries of the universe WITHOUT belief in some diety. And it's impossible to explain it in a way they could truly understand, just as it's impossible to explain God in a way that would make me believe.I doubt that. If I were to explain God as, "This right here is God," followed by a visual/physical presentation of God itself, I'm sure you would believe.Now, the tricky part is actually finding such a being that fits religious descriptions, but if I could, I'm sure you would start believing.You know it was a lot easier in the Old Testament. God showed up all the damn time. As a burning bush, made a game out of torturing Job to prove a point to Satan, the pillar of smoke and fire, he was bringing down fire and brimstone to level towns that had orgies, plagues that were obviously his work.Now that just about everyone on the planet has a cell phone and can take pictures or video on a moments notice farker goes radio silent, and we are supposed to see him in a goddamn sunset. What the hell is that? There is a sunset every single day? Is God just getting lazy, mailing it in like Randy Moss on a play not designed to go to him?
comhcinc: FarkinNortherner: comhcinc: ................I guess I believe in god too then. See you at church.tacobell.jpgINFIDEL![farm3.staticflickr.com image 500x329]Taco Bell was founded in 1962, that Heathen Del Taco was not started in touch 1964.BOW DOWN TO THE ONE TRUE GOD!
Witness99: Son of Thunder: mesmer242: I was under the impression, admittedly not a well researched one, that Oprah isn't a christian. I thought she was all new age and crystals and stuff.Same here. Too much Deepak Chopra. I could be wrong.I watch Super Soul Sunday for a couple hours most weeks. She's not a Christian, nor is she religious, nor is she a goofy crystal worshipper. She is a "spiritual seeker" who interviews spiritual leaders from all avenues, primarily those that would advise you to look within to find "god." Her guests talk about overcoming fear and ego, self improvement, discovering your authentic self, overcoming obstacles, stuff like that. It's all presented through and analyzed through an extremely vast prism of human experience and worldview. It's about the least "religious" thing you can watch. The main thrust of SSS is that religion limits humanity and that we can reach greater heights through love, tolerance, meditation, awareness, overcoming resistance and growing. It's really about soul development. Most of her guests are fascinating.
letrole: Atheism is a Religion.
Badgers: Elzar:[img.fark.net image 800x248]This person has obviously never heard of prisms.
EvilEgg: You can believe about anything and still be an atheist, with one notable exception.
Ghastly: We have over 9000 penises and they're all raping Jesus.
MaudlinMutantMollusk: This just in: Oprah Winfrey is a judgmental f*cking idiot
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