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(RotoExperts)   Reactions to Bob Costas' Redskins essay and Phil Mushnick's ludicrous NYPost column attacking Adrian Peterson, Week 7 NFL injuries & waiver adds, ALCS and the Pats going for it on 4th Down   (rotoexperts.com) divider line 145
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2013-10-14 03:26:52 PM
Mushnick is an asshole. No more need be said.
 
2013-10-14 03:33:27 PM
I would have been more surprised if the Pats didn't go for it on fourth down.  It was either that, or give up the game.
 
2013-10-14 03:35:40 PM
God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!
 
2013-10-14 03:45:59 PM

DamnYankees: God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!


I want to know if all the white people that know all these native Americans (not the 1/16 Cherokee types, that is) that are totally cool with it actually call their Native friends "redskins."  Or even better, do they call that friend's parents "redskins" to their faces.

I'm not saying the name is the worst thing ever, but let's not pretend like it isn't a racial slur.

Or another (and all these questions are stolen from other people): New high school is built, and they need a mascot.  What is the probability of them choosing "redskins" as the name?
 
2013-10-14 03:49:49 PM
The federal government is shut down.

The US may well default on its debt.

Now is a great time to distract people with a meaningless and futile argument about absolutely nothing.

Anyone have any ideas?
 
2013-10-14 03:50:39 PM

factoryconnection: DamnYankees: God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!

I want to know if all the white people that know all these native Americans (not the 1/16 Cherokee types, that is) that are totally cool with it actually call their Native friends "redskins."  Or even better, do they call that friend's parents "redskins" to their faces.

I'm not saying the name is the worst thing ever, but let's not pretend like it isn't a racial slur.

Or another (and all these questions are stolen from other people): New high school is built, and they need a mascot.  What is the probability of them choosing "redskins" as the name?


Just rename them after their current owner: the shiatstains
 
2013-10-14 04:11:47 PM

Peter von Nostrand: factoryconnection: DamnYankees: God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!

I want to know if all the white people that know all these native Americans (not the 1/16 Cherokee types, that is) that are totally cool with it actually call their Native friends "redskins."  Or even better, do they call that friend's parents "redskins" to their faces.

I'm not saying the name is the worst thing ever, but let's not pretend like it isn't a racial slur.

Or another (and all these questions are stolen from other people): New high school is built, and they need a mascot.  What is the probability of them choosing "redskins" as the name?

Just rename them after their current owner: the shiatstains


Since it is Washington, let name them the Filibusters.  That way Ted Cruz can pretend to be one of them too.
 
2013-10-14 04:18:07 PM
HTTR!!
 
2013-10-14 04:19:11 PM

DamnYankees: God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!


It was the same slur for the past 30 years.  Where was Costas and his high and mighty indignation then?
 
2013-10-14 04:19:37 PM

Peter von Nostrand: factoryconnection: DamnYankees: God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!

I want to know if all the white people that know all these native Americans (not the 1/16 Cherokee types, that is) that are totally cool with it actually call their Native friends "redskins."  Or even better, do they call that friend's parents "redskins" to their faces.

I'm not saying the name is the worst thing ever, but let's not pretend like it isn't a racial slur.

Or another (and all these questions are stolen from other people): New high school is built, and they need a mascot.  What is the probability of them choosing "redskins" as the name?

Just rename them after their current owner: the shiatstains


I'm pretty sure that within ten years, they'll just change their name to the Washington Pigskins.  They've got to get tired of the yearly complaints about their current name eventually
 
2013-10-14 04:20:37 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: DamnYankees: God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!

It was the same slur for the past 30 years.  Where was Costas and his high and mighty indignation then?


So you support the racist nickname because someone who denounced it, possibly, with no evidence presented supporting so, hypocritical in his denunciation? That's a strange way to think.
 
2013-10-14 04:25:12 PM

NeoCortex42: Peter von Nostrand: factoryconnection: DamnYankees: God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!

I want to know if all the white people that know all these native Americans (not the 1/16 Cherokee types, that is) that are totally cool with it actually call their Native friends "redskins."  Or even better, do they call that friend's parents "redskins" to their faces.

I'm not saying the name is the worst thing ever, but let's not pretend like it isn't a racial slur.

Or another (and all these questions are stolen from other people): New high school is built, and they need a mascot.  What is the probability of them choosing "redskins" as the name?

Just rename them after their current owner: the shiatstains

I'm pretty sure that within ten years, they'll just change their name to the Washington Pigskins.  They've got to get tired of the yearly complaints about their current name eventually


And now I want some pork rinds and a BLT. Hold the lettuce and tomato
 
2013-10-14 04:25:27 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: DamnYankees: God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!

It was the same slur for the past 30 years.  Where was Costas and his high and mighty indignation then?


So, righting a wrong shouldn't be done if it's not addressed when you're young?
 
2013-10-14 04:33:39 PM

Earguy: Lt. Cheese Weasel: DamnYankees: God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!

It was the same slur for the past 30 years.  Where was Costas and his high and mighty indignation then?

So, righting a wrong shouldn't be done if it's not addressed when you're young?


Didn't say that.  I question his scruples and timing.  This just stinks of public grandstanding. His sincerity is dubious.
 
2013-10-14 04:35:29 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Didn't say that.  I question his scruples and timing.  This just stinks of public grandstanding. His sincerity is dubious.


So you support the racist name because you doubt the sincerity of someone who opposes it?
 
2013-10-14 04:43:22 PM

DamnYankees: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Didn't say that.  I question his scruples and timing.  This just stinks of public grandstanding. His sincerity is dubious.

So you support the racist name because you doubt the sincerity of someone who opposes it?


No. I don't support the name.  I think Costas is grabbing spotlight he doesn't deserve. Why wasn't he on this soapbox 30 yrs. ago?
 
2013-10-14 04:43:32 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: It was the same slur for the past 30 years.  Where was Costas and his high and mighty indignation then?


Employed?
 
2013-10-14 04:44:44 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: No. I don't support the name.  I think Costas is grabbing spotlight he doesn't deserve. Why wasn't he on this soapbox 30 yrs. ago?


30 years ago I believe Costas was doing minor league hockey games. And for all I know he was on his soapbox about it then. Do you have evidence he wasn't?
 
2013-10-14 04:52:37 PM
Costas was calling Spirits of St. Louis games in the ABA 30 years ago...thanks, 30 for 30!  lol
 
2013-10-14 04:56:59 PM

robsul82: Costas was calling Spirits of St. Louis games in the ABA 30 years ago...thanks, 30 for 30!  lol


Too funny. Thought the exact same thing.
 
2013-10-14 04:57:59 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: DamnYankees: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Didn't say that.  I question his scruples and timing.  This just stinks of public grandstanding. His sincerity is dubious.

So you support the racist name because you doubt the sincerity of someone who opposes it?

No. I don't support the name.  I think Costas is grabbing spotlight he doesn't deserve. Why wasn't he on this soapbox 30 yrs. ago?


Bob Costas is just trying to get on TV, the big jerk!
 
2013-10-14 04:59:48 PM
You guys realize that Washington Pigskins is a horrible name. It's like if the Washington Nationals called their team the DC Baseballs. Then fans would just shorten it to "Balls" and then concerned family groups will complain.
 
2013-10-14 05:00:40 PM

DamnYankees: Lt. Cheese Weasel: No. I don't support the name.  I think Costas is grabbing spotlight he doesn't deserve. Why wasn't he on this soapbox 30 yrs. ago?

30 years ago I believe Costas was doing minor league hockey games. And for all I know he was on his soapbox about it then. Do you have evidence he wasn't?


You seem to want an argument over this.  Try down the hall. I don't give a fark about the farking Redskins. You want to champion him?  Go right ahead.  False gods and tin idols are all the rage this year.
 
2013-10-14 05:01:12 PM
There's never a bad time to right an injustice.  Sometimes things just take a while before they reach a critical mass of support to get something done about it, and when they reach that point, even people who jump on the bandwagon late are valuable.

It looks like we just got gay marriage in the bag, maybe we can squeeze in eliminating racist sports team names / logos by the end of the year.
 
2013-10-14 05:01:25 PM
Remember kids, if something's been around for a long time, that means its okay and it should continue forever.
 
2013-10-14 05:04:01 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: You seem to want an argument over this.  Try down the hall. I don't give a fark about the farking Redskins. You want to champion him?  Go right ahead.  False gods and tin idols are all the rage this year.


All you care about is that you are, apparently, a moral coward who, in order to build yourself up, looks at someone taking a stance (with which you apparently agree!) and insults him for daring to stand on a box you're too small to step onto. You're the embodiment of pathetic jealousy.
 
2013-10-14 05:05:26 PM
I thought the Redskins already changed their name...

o.onionstatic.com
 
2013-10-14 05:06:39 PM

rjakobi: You guys realize that Washington Pigskins is a horrible name. It's like if the Washington Nationals called their team the DC Baseballs. Then fans would just shorten it to "Balls" and then concerned family groups will complain.


Yeah, Washington fans would never stand for a team name like the Pigskins.  They'd have to call their team the 'skins and go to games dressed like this:
www.baltimoresun.com
It would never catch on.
 
2013-10-14 05:06:57 PM

Cagey B: Remember kids, if something's been around for a long time, that means its okay and it should continue forever.


And if its never used as a racial slur then we should not let anyone use it forever.

You're right, your side makes a lot of sense.
 
2013-10-14 05:08:17 PM

justtray: And if its never used as a racial slur then we should not let anyone use it forever.

You're right, your side makes a lot of sense.


Ah, you're one of those "redskin isn't a racial slur" people. Well, allow me to complement you by calling you a f*ckwit.
 
2013-10-14 05:08:19 PM

DamnYankees: Lt. Cheese Weasel: You seem to want an argument over this.  Try down the hall. I don't give a fark about the farking Redskins. You want to champion him?  Go right ahead.  False gods and tin idols are all the rage this year.

All you care about is that you are, apparently, a moral coward who, in order to build yourself up, looks at someone taking a stance (with which you apparently agree!) and insults him for daring to stand on a box you're too small to step onto. You're the embodiment of pathetic jealousy.


So, how long have you been on that soapbox?  30 years?  Courageously picketing the Skins and the NFL, week in and week out..sure..I'm guessing you jumped on it Sunday night, like all the rest of the hypocrites.

c'ya.
 
2013-10-14 05:12:00 PM
Change the name to the Bullets and get it over with
 
2013-10-14 05:12:43 PM
How would folks feel about team names like: The Darkies? The Wetbacks? The Zipperheads?

/Native American
//Came to terms with it decades ago
///I don't care one way or the other
 
2013-10-14 05:13:22 PM

DamnYankees: Lt. Cheese Weasel: You seem to want an argument over this.  Try down the hall. I don't give a fark about the farking Redskins. You want to champion him?  Go right ahead.  False gods and tin idols are all the rage this year.

All you care about is that you are, apparently, a moral coward who, in order to build yourself up, looks at someone taking a stance (with which you apparently agree!) and insults him for daring to stand on a box you're too small to step onto. You're the embodiment of pathetic jealousy.


Personal insults are always a winning play.

The reality is that Bob Costas is sanctimonious ass even when he's right.
 
2013-10-14 05:13:55 PM
"Pigskins" kind of sucks, but "Porkbellies" has a nice ring to it.  And fits the DC theme.
 
2013-10-14 05:15:07 PM
Keep the name, just change the logo to a potato.  Problem solved.
 
2013-10-14 05:15:52 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: DamnYankees: God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!

It was the same slur for the past 30 years.  Where was Costas and his high and mighty indignation then?


The controversy has always been there, some times it was hotter than others. I don't know what got everybody fired up this time, but once Obama stated his opinion it immediately became a front-burner issue because everybody saw that they had the support of the President.

I think they should change the name, if only because I'm not the type to bang my head against the wall until it becomes a bloody, spongy mass defending the indefensible. It will be changed, the only question is when. And when it is changed, it'll be to something innocuous. Snyder is the type to try to troll people who piss him off so he'll probably go for Warriors just to kick the Native Americans again, but in the end it'll be something like what St. Johns did.

I'm surprised Congress, with their penchant for getting fiddling while the country burns, hasn't gotten involved in this. They did when Marshall outright refused to integrate the team, this seems to be ripe for their interference. Then again, the team doesn't play in DC anymore so all they can do is withdraw consent for the use of "Washington" as the ostensible location.

After typing all of that, it comes down to a) Costas was on target, b) for once it wasn't some quixotic quest he pontificated on, and c) the name will change.
 
2013-10-14 05:16:52 PM

Some Bass Playing Guy: Personal insults are always a winning play.

The reality is that Bob Costas is sanctimonious ass even when he's right.


Wait - so its ok to personally insult someone, but when someone does it back that's a breach of decor?
 
2013-10-14 05:17:03 PM

DamnYankees: God forbid Bob Costas point out a racial slur is a racial slur. EVIL!


...weirdly, it seems that this might harm Costas more than his anti-gun rant when Jovan Belcher went all murdery-suicidey.
 
2013-10-14 05:18:01 PM

whenIsayGO: It looks like we just got gay marriage in the bag, maybe we can squeeze in eliminating racist sports team names / logos by the end of the year.


I'm told that the "tradition" of the Redskins name is just too powerful to give up. Or something.

You know, because people born and raised in NoVA and the general vicinity of our capital city totally would have never rooted for an NFL team based in DC with the same amount of success had it been named something else.
 
2013-10-14 05:18:20 PM

rjakobi: You guys realize that Washington Pigskins is a horrible name. It's like if the Washington Nationals called their team the DC Baseballs. Then fans would just shorten it to "Balls" and then concerned family groups will complain.


Snyder already has "Washington warriors" trademarked for when they are forced to change the name
/HTTR!
//HTT...W?
 
2013-10-14 05:18:33 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: "Pigskins" kind of sucks, but "Porkbellies" has a nice ring to it.  And fits the DC theme.


Porkrinds.  Delicious.
 
2013-10-14 05:18:57 PM

DamnYankees: Some Bass Playing Guy: Personal insults are always a winning play.

The reality is that Bob Costas is sanctimonious ass even when he's right.

Wait - so its ok to personally insult someone, but when someone does it back that's a breach of decor?


No, the moral is that it doesn't matter if you're right. All that matters is if you say stuff as if you know better than I do...even if you do know better than I do.
 
2013-10-14 05:19:37 PM

whenIsayGO: There's never a bad time to right an injustice.  Sometimes things just take a while before they reach a critical mass of support to get something done about it, and when they reach that point, even people who jump on the bandwagon late are valuable.

It looks like we just got gay marriage in the bag, maybe we can squeeze in eliminating racist sports team names / logos by the end of the year.


Sweet Baby Buddha, I feel a Saturday Night Live sketch coming on:

Snyder: In the past few weeks, the board and I have decided to make some concessions. First, we've dug up the remains of founder George Marshall, the racist bastard who chose the name in the first place, and every game day at RFK, we will set his body up in the tailgate area and allow everyone of American Indian ancestry to piss on him. Second, to show we are hip to the liberal Namby-Pamby media, we will host a gay wedding between our star running back Alfred Morris, and our backup quarterback Kurt Cousins.
Morris: But we're not gay, Mister Snyder.
Snyder: Well, I suggest you start practicing. I registered you two at Ikea.
 
2013-10-14 05:20:25 PM

Cagey B: justtray: And if its never used as a racial slur then we should not let anyone use it forever.

You're right, your side makes a lot of sense.

Ah, you're one of those "redskin isn't a racial slur" people. Well, allow me to complement you by calling you a f*ckwit.


See, you are capable of getting it. I dont believe in censorship because im not a puritan, evangelical commie.
 
2013-10-14 05:20:50 PM
What's the over/under on Costa whining about "browns" being racist next year?
 
2013-10-14 05:21:45 PM

Bullseyed: What's the over/under on Costa whining about "browns" being racist next year?


I don't see anything racist about a team named after an actual person.
 
2013-10-14 05:22:28 PM
I was far more upset that Bob said Miami University's name wrong than NBC using SNF as a podium to push their opnion on a political/sports issue.  Miami was a university when Florida was still a Spanish colony.
 
2013-10-14 05:23:41 PM

rjakobi: whenIsayGO: There's never a bad time to right an injustice.  Sometimes things just take a while before they reach a critical mass of support to get something done about it, and when they reach that point, even people who jump on the bandwagon late are valuable.

It looks like we just got gay marriage in the bag, maybe we can squeeze in eliminating racist sports team names / logos by the end of the year.

Sweet Baby Buddha, I feel a Saturday Night Live sketch coming on:

Snyder: In the past few weeks, the board and I have decided to make some concessions. First, we've dug up the remains of founder George Marshall, the racist bastard who chose the name in the first place, and every game day at RFK, we will set his body up in the tailgate area and allow everyone of American Indian ancestry to piss on him. Second, to show we are hip to the liberal Namby-Pamby media, we will host a gay wedding between our star running back Alfred Morris, and our backup quarterback Kurt Cousins.
Morris: But we're not gay, Mister Snyder.
Snyder: Well, I suggest you start practicing. I registered you two at Ikea.


The Redskins haven't played at RFK since 1997.
 
2013-10-14 05:24:24 PM
and what if Washington changed their mascot to a potato?
Cold they keep the Redskins name then?
 
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