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(Daily Kos)   Aaaaand, in reality, we have a MERS outbreak that kills nearly 50% of its victims while CDC and NIH are significantly shuttered   (dailykos.com) divider line 106
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2013-10-14 12:25:29 PM
Hasn't MERS been around for a while and infected a grand total of a hundred or so people? I wouldn't call that an epidemic.
 
2013-10-14 12:43:13 PM
Do we really need the CDC and the NIH when we've got President Madagascar to tell us what to do?
 
2013-10-14 01:00:30 PM

themindiswatching: Hasn't MERS been around for a while and infected a grand total of a hundred or so people? I wouldn't call that an epidemic.


Depends how much of the lack-of-spread is due to inherently low transmission rates, and how much is due to geographic isolation. Contrariwise, the apparently high mortality rate may be a function of under-identification of less lethal cases.

Nohow, this sort of health care mismanagement is playing Russian Roulette with country-sized Darwin Awards.
 
2013-10-14 01:16:19 PM
I've seen this scenario:

img.fark.net

/also: fark you, Greenland
 
2013-10-14 01:20:08 PM
What's wrong with MURS?  It has a better range than FRS or the GMRS simplex frequencies, and it's relatively easy to adapt conventional 2 Meter antennas to it, and because they aren't available in $20 blister packs at Wal*Mart, there is a lot less interference.
 
2013-10-14 01:21:58 PM
I haven't seen a threat this bad since SARS.
 
2013-10-14 01:28:36 PM

HawgWild: I've seen this scenario:

[img.fark.net image 850x478]

/also: fark you, Greenland


I love it when all the ports are closed and that one ship just roams the seas around and around and around...

I just imagine it's a cruise ship and the entertainment hired was Gilbert Gotfried, Nickleback and Paris Hilton.
 
2013-10-14 01:30:14 PM
I like MURS, it got me into the whole underground rap thing which is actually pretty damn good.
 
2013-10-14 01:31:19 PM
If we can't be the world's police then maybe we shouldn't be their doctors either.
 
2013-10-14 01:42:33 PM

netizencain: If we can't be the world's police then maybe we shouldn't be their doctors either.


I don't think we're so much worried about being the world's doctor.  More like our own.
 
2013-10-14 01:43:12 PM

netizencain: If we can't be the world's police then maybe we shouldn't be their doctors either.


You are aware that the CDC and NIH work primarily within US borders right?

But fark em. Who needs em. Smaller government!
 
2013-10-14 01:43:17 PM

netizencain: If we can't be the world's police then maybe we shouldn't be their doctors either.


It's a good thing that disease can't cross borders.
 
2013-10-14 01:43:24 PM

netizencain: If we can't be the world's police then maybe we shouldn't be their doctors either.


Crimes aren't transmitted by breathing.
 
2013-10-14 01:45:36 PM
atlantablackstar.com

Thanks, Obama!
 
2013-10-14 01:46:11 PM
In before someone says a disease that's only killing Muslims isn't all bad...
 
2013-10-14 01:46:27 PM
Thank goodness they won't be spreading it our National Parks!
 
2013-10-14 01:47:47 PM
If the infected people believe in Jesus, they'll be fine.

If not, they've got nobody to blame but themselves when they BURN IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!!
 
2013-10-14 01:48:09 PM
w5.montreal.com
 
2013-10-14 01:48:18 PM
SEE!? Gummint cain't do nothin' right.
 
2013-10-14 01:48:45 PM
No, no it doesn't

Early reports claimed the 48%, later reports found the virus in the general population meaning it has a 48% lethality in symptomatic cases and near 0 in asymptomatic which makes sense

"So far, MERS has been confirmed in 136 people and it's killed 58 - making it a highly deadly virus. Most, but not all, victims have been old or weak or sick in some way - many with kidney disease or diabetes. But healthy people have been killed, too."


So only those immunocompromised are developing syndromes, everyone else has a cold for a few days and gets back to work making tracking the actual lethality a guessing game
 
2013-10-14 01:49:27 PM

netizencain: If we can't be the world's police then maybe we shouldn't be their doctors either.


True, viruses and bacilli are easy to contain at the border.
 
2013-10-14 01:50:06 PM

netizencain: If we can't be the world's police then maybe we shouldn't be their doctors either.


hmm...
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-14 01:50:55 PM
Saudi Arabia?

Well thats God's punishment for creating tens of thousands of jobs in New York city, starting in sept 2001.

/Or this is another cunning CIA plot to further destabilize the Middle East...
 
2013-10-14 01:51:15 PM
Typical Lieberal Medial exaggeration. Only 48% die, not 50%.
 
2013-10-14 01:52:19 PM

HawgWild: I've seen this scenario:

[img.fark.net image 850x478]

/also: fark you, Greenland


I'd love to move past the fungus game, but Greenland keeps farking with me.
 
2013-10-14 01:53:29 PM
Just curious, but what exactly are the CDC and NIH supposed to do about this anyway besides put out dire warnings?
 
2013-10-14 01:55:07 PM

unlikely: In before someone says a disease that's only killing Muslims isn't all bad...


Dammit, there goes my snark
 
2013-10-14 01:57:29 PM

BiffDangler: Just curious, but what exactly are the CDC and NIH supposed to do about this anyway besides put out dire warnings?


Research, both direct and funding dispersed to colleges.
 
2013-10-14 01:57:48 PM

zedster: No, no it doesn't

Early reports claimed the 48%, later reports found the virus in the general population meaning it has a 48% lethality in symptomatic cases and near 0 in asymptomatic which makes sense

"So far, MERS has been confirmed in 136 people and it's killed 58 - making it a highly deadly virus. Most, but not all, victims have been old or weak or sick in some way - many with kidney disease or diabetes. But healthy people have been killed, too."

So only those immunocompromised are developing syndromes, everyone else has a cold for a few days and gets back to work making tracking the actual lethality a guessing game


Basically this may inflict heavy casualties on the hoveraround crowd. After it cleans up our nations teaparty and fatty epidemic, it should be a positive for all of us healthy fit folks...

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2013-10-14 01:58:54 PM

KarmicDisaster: Typical Lieberal Medial exaggeration. Only 48% die, not 50%.


From what I understand it's 48% of symptomatic cases. So the true mortality rate of those infected could be far less worrying than then 48% would indicate. Without knowing the true number of infected you can't tell.
 
2013-10-14 02:01:49 PM
And baggers start claiming this is God's punnishment for allowing gay marriage, and trying to give poor people health insurance in 5...4...3...
 
2013-10-14 02:02:26 PM
FTFA: Quaiser Butt

/thread
 
2013-10-14 02:03:32 PM

themindiswatching: Hasn't MERS been around for a while and infected a grand total of a hundred or so people? I wouldn't call that an epidemic.


Nabb1: I haven't seen a threat this bad since SARS.


holeinthedonut: Thank goodness they won't be spreading it our National Parks!


GoldSpider: [w5.montreal.com image 160x75]


Its a right wing super team of cognitive failure! Dail D for Derp? The Derpmen, The Derptastic Four, Derp Factor, The Derp League, The League of Extraordinary Derp, The Derp Titans, or The D-Men would also be acceptable. (okay so technically Dial D for Derp would be a duo but it has a nice ring to it)

temp.corvetteforum.net
 
2013-10-14 02:04:57 PM

HawgWild: I've seen this scenario:

[img.fark.net image 850x478]

/also: fark you, Greenland


Waitaminute now. Is that a new version of Pandemic?
 
2013-10-14 02:06:45 PM
imageshack.us I may just bag groceries for a living, but I've never missed a day of work, even when I'm sick, like I am right now.
 
2013-10-14 02:07:24 PM
hey, look - actual deaths. happy now, republicans?
 
2013-10-14 02:09:43 PM

zedster: No, no it doesn't

Early reports claimed the 48%, later reports found the virus in the general population meaning it has a 48% lethality in symptomatic cases and near 0 in asymptomatic which makes sense

"So far, MERS has been confirmed in 136 people and it's killed 58 - making it a highly deadly virus. Most, but not all, victims have been old or weak or sick in some way - many with kidney disease or diabetes. But healthy people have been killed, too."

So only those immunocompromised are developing syndromes, everyone else has a cold for a few days and gets back to work making tracking the actual lethality a guessing game


Sure - in its current form.  And it might stay that way forever, or a mutant strain might up the ante and be more virulent - that may be easier to do than the original jump from bats to humans.

/still looking over my shoulder for H5N1 to become transmissible by air human to human
//game over, man, game over
 
2013-10-14 02:10:22 PM

FlashHarry: hey, look - actual deaths. happy now, republicans?


The government shutdown caused a disease outbreak in Saudi Arabia?
 
2013-10-14 02:12:22 PM

GoldSpider: FlashHarry: hey, look - actual deaths. happy now, republicans?

The government shutdown caused a disease outbreak in Saudi Arabia?


you're right - viruses always respect international borders. my bad.
 
2013-10-14 02:13:44 PM

dittybopper: What's wrong with MURS?  It has a better range than FRS or the GMRS simplex frequencies, and it's relatively easy to adapt conventional 2 Meter antennas to it, and because they aren't available in $20 blister packs at Wal*Mart, there is a lot less interference.


*snicker*
 
2013-10-14 02:14:31 PM

Myrdinn: HawgWild: I've seen this scenario:

[img.fark.net image 850x478]

/also: fark you, Greenland

Waitaminute now. Is that a new version of Pandemic?


It's called Plague Inc. And it's glorious.
 
2013-10-14 02:18:13 PM

FlashHarry: you're right - viruses always respect international borders. my bad.


You said "actual deaths", as if this was something that was caused by the government shutdown.  Please, show your work on that one.

There are plenty of reasons to be mad at the GOP for shutting down the government.  Contrived alarm over a disease halfway around the world that has affected ~150 people is not one of them.
 
2013-10-14 02:18:23 PM
Why is it the CDC or NIH's problem when it's in Saudi Arabia.

If it spreads, then its still a WHO and Saudi  Ministry of Health issue.

Oh and the WHO normally goes to the Hajj to assist the Saudis

http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/news/2013/10/saudi-health-autho ri ties-ready-to-assist-hajj-pilgrims-continue-to-monitor-merscov-situati on.aspx
 
2013-10-14 02:19:42 PM
If a horrible plague erupts from a religious pilgrimage, I think we can safely say there is no God.
 
2013-10-14 02:23:32 PM

GoldSpider: FlashHarry: you're right - viruses always respect international borders. my bad.

You said "actual deaths", as if this was something that was caused by the government shutdown.  Please, show your work on that one.

There are plenty of reasons to be mad at the GOP for shutting down the government.


Points for stating the obvious, and noting the correct cause

Contrived alarm over a disease halfway around the world that has affected ~150 people is not one of them.

How about shuttering our public health agencies.  You know, ever.
 
2013-10-14 02:25:30 PM
Meh.. I'm not even middle eastern so I'm pretty much immune.
 
2013-10-14 02:27:59 PM

GoldSpider: You said "actual deaths", as if this was something that was caused by the government shutdown.  Please, show your work on that one.


i was referring to the mortality rate of the disease.

but i'm guessing that it wouldn't be too tough to link "actual deaths" to the shutdown due to the shuttering of the NIH and CDC and whatnot.
 
2013-10-14 02:30:02 PM
sorry, but the more dead Mooslims the better
 
2013-10-14 02:30:55 PM

HawgWild: Plague Inc.


Thankye, sir
 
2013-10-14 02:32:50 PM

ScaryBottles: themindiswatching: Hasn't MERS been around for a while and infected a grand total of a hundred or so people? I wouldn't call that an epidemic.

Nabb1: I haven't seen a threat this bad since SARS.

holeinthedonut: Thank goodness they won't be spreading it our National Parks!

GoldSpider: [w5.montreal.com image 160x75]

Its a right wing super team of cognitive failure! Dail D for Derp? The Derpmen, The Derptastic Four, Derp Factor, The Derp League, The League of Extraordinary Derp, The Derp Titans, or The D-Men would also be acceptable. (okay so technically Dial D for Derp would be a duo but it has a nice ring to it)

[temp.corvetteforum.net image 350x243]


I have scant idea what you were trying to accomplish in that hamfisted rant of toddler babble, probably thinking what you had vomited forth from your deficient, malformed brain matter was remotely original or intelligent, though really just parroting nonsense laid down by similarly emotionally stunted, linguistically limited, semi-literate cretins, but if you want to believe that certain, horrible death by infectious disease is imminent because some of our leaders in Washington have decided that the best example of leadership is to act like petulant four-year-olds in the throes of a temper tantrum, that's up to you.
 
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