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2013-10-14 04:22:28 PM

scotchcrotch: kosherkow: scotchcrotch: kosherkow: scotchcrotch: That's why I hate the douchebag.

He seems to value privacy over anything and is slowly removing it for his users.

maybe his users should realize they are using a free service and stop being so entitled to privacy on a public site they so willingly signed up for?

That's right, because if it's free, he owns us.

Maybe stand for what you believe in?

you're kidding right?  Facebook is a "free" service.  Who pays for the infrastructure to keep the "free" service running?  should zuckerberg front the bill so that ad revenue is not needed?

i do stand for what i believe in, by not using facebook.  i used it initially in 2004-2006 but after that kind of dropped off the map.

maybe read the terms of service before you sign up for something and not biatch about it later for your ignorance

Terms of service?

As in "we do what we want when we want, tough shiat"? The site has been falling for sometime, this isn't what any of us signed up for.

Unfortunately, we all can't be hipsters that follow every change like yourself.

Sometimes people can follow principles because of what they believe in. Mark is clearly socially awkward and values his privacy. Just no one else's.


hipster? me?  hardly.  If you paid for the service and then they changed it around in the manner which doesnt please you, yes, you might have some room to object.

i'm sorry he doesnt cater to you or anyone else.

he is there to make money, and that is what he is doing.  don't like it? don't use the service he provides.  pick up the damn phone and call or text if you want to keep up on someone instead of having a public company, who data mines you, keep up on all your friends for you because you're too lazy to do so yourself.
 
2013-10-14 04:25:50 PM

MrEricSir: Steve Jobs bought the home next to his in Palo Alto, supposedly to demolish it and put in an orchard (presumably an apple orchard.)


Junior banana trees. 6000 of them.
 
2013-10-14 04:26:46 PM

kosherkow: scotchcrotch: kosherkow: scotchcrotch: kosherkow: scotchcrotch: That's why I hate the douchebag.

He seems to value privacy over anything and is slowly removing it for his users.

maybe his users should realize they are using a free service and stop being so entitled to privacy on a public site they so willingly signed up for?

That's right, because if it's free, he owns us.

Maybe stand for what you believe in?

you're kidding right?  Facebook is a "free" service.  Who pays for the infrastructure to keep the "free" service running?  should zuckerberg front the bill so that ad revenue is not needed?

i do stand for what i believe in, by not using facebook.  i used it initially in 2004-2006 but after that kind of dropped off the map.

maybe read the terms of service before you sign up for something and not biatch about it later for your ignorance

Terms of service?

As in "we do what we want when we want, tough shiat"? The site has been falling for sometime, this isn't what any of us signed up for.

Unfortunately, we all can't be hipsters that follow every change like yourself.

Sometimes people can follow principles because of what they believe in. Mark is clearly socially awkward and values his privacy. Just no one else's.

hipster? me?  hardly.  If you paid for the service and then they changed it around in the manner which doesnt please you, yes, you might have some room to object.

i'm sorry he doesnt cater to you or anyone else.

he is there to make money, and that is what he is doing.  don't like it? don't use the service he provides.  pick up the damn phone and call or text if you want to keep up on someone instead of having a public company, who data mines you, keep up on all your friends for you because you're too lazy to do so yourself.


And here we go, the standard boilerplate free market argument.

No need to complain or make points, deal with it or quit.
 
2013-10-14 04:27:06 PM
Would you like to pay me to not stalk you?
Stalkers go from unpaid amatures to paid professionals.
 
2013-10-14 04:29:21 PM
visio:

People agree that it's no longer what they signed up for, yet they still stay...

kind of similar to complaining about how walmart essentially subsidizes health and social costs for it's employees, but then still shopping because of the low prices.

FB isn't the end all be all, and given more time and willingness, someone else will emerge with a product that satisfies those who a disgruntled with FB practices - let's call it EB

now, EB starts out small and is easy to maintain for a limited amount of users.  Whoa, it's gaining in popularity and needs more servers to accommodate an increased demand in users, but now can't support the infrastructure so they place a few ads here and there.  rinse wash and repeat.

want a service like FB without the ads?  pay for it because it will not pay for itself.
 
2013-10-14 04:30:00 PM
Do we really have to say "Facebook's" Mark Zuckerberg? Like saying, "Apple's Steve Jobs". He's just sort of an entity now. For some reason that really stood out to me when I read the headline.
 
2013-10-14 04:33:37 PM

scotchcrotch: kosherkow: scotchcrotch: kosherkow: scotchcrotch: kosherkow: scotchcrotch: That's why I hate the douchebag.

He seems to value privacy over anything and is slowly removing it for his users.

maybe his users should realize they are using a free service and stop being so entitled to privacy on a public site they so willingly signed up for?

That's right, because if it's free, he owns us.

Maybe stand for what you believe in?

you're kidding right?  Facebook is a "free" service.  Who pays for the infrastructure to keep the "free" service running?  should zuckerberg front the bill so that ad revenue is not needed?

i do stand for what i believe in, by not using facebook.  i used it initially in 2004-2006 but after that kind of dropped off the map.

maybe read the terms of service before you sign up for something and not biatch about it later for your ignorance

Terms of service?

As in "we do what we want when we want, tough shiat"? The site has been falling for sometime, this isn't what any of us signed up for.

Unfortunately, we all can't be hipsters that follow every change like yourself.

Sometimes people can follow principles because of what they believe in. Mark is clearly socially awkward and values his privacy. Just no one else's.

hipster? me?  hardly.  If you paid for the service and then they changed it around in the manner which doesnt please you, yes, you might have some room to object.

i'm sorry he doesnt cater to you or anyone else.

he is there to make money, and that is what he is doing.  don't like it? don't use the service he provides.  pick up the damn phone and call or text if you want to keep up on someone instead of having a public company, who data mines you, keep up on all your friends for you because you're too lazy to do so yourself.

And here we go, the standard boilerplate free market argument.

No need to complain or make points, deal with it or quit.


so what you're saying is you would like a service to connect you with people worldwide and expect it to be free of ads or any other means to keep the service going?

if FB said they would offer an ad free premium service for $20/mo would you stay?

/amazing how people biatch about a service they willingly sign up for, which accomplishes an amazing feat, and is FREE to them.
 
2013-10-14 04:34:04 PM

scotchcrotch: That's why I hate the douchebag.

He seems to value privacy over anything and is slowly removing it for his users.


So, uh, don't go to his free site?
 
2013-10-14 04:35:39 PM

CrazyCracka420: blazemongr: edmo: Ironic

How?

Because Facebook announced recently that they are removing the ability to "hide" yourself from the Facebook search.   It was a nice feature where people couldn't find you on Facebook by searching on Facebook.  You had to add someone before they could search and see you had a profile created.


I removed every bit of valid information from my Facebook account years ago and have all but abandoned it. Been urging others to do the same for ages. If you insist on having a Facebook account, use a fake name at least.
 
2013-10-14 04:37:47 PM

Hankie Fest: So poor people don't deserve privacy?  Awesome.

/hurl


The poorer and less well known you are, the cheaper a reasonable amount of privacy is. Most of us don't have to buy all the houses around us in order to prevent a developer from building a huge house next door and advertising it at a premium price as the house next to Joe Schmoe.
 
2013-10-14 04:43:13 PM

UNC_Samurai: TheShavingofOccam123: kosherkow: scotchcrotch: That's why I hate the douchebag.

He seems to value privacy over anything and is slowly removing it for his users.

maybe his users should realize they are using a free service and stop being so entitled to privacy on a public site they so willingly signed up for?

but since every site keeps track of what you're doing on their site, it doesn't make sense to pay for privacy on any of them.

/don't search for butt plugs on Amazon.com...just saying

No, you search for them when some idiot undergrad leaves himself logged in in the computer lab.

/kid was lucky we didn't leave his terminal on Meatspin


I always like popping into the Apple store whenever I happen to be walking by one, to see if anyone has left Facebook logged in on any of the demo Macs. Almost always at least one.
 
2013-10-14 04:44:07 PM

Attention Whore of Babylon: Not using Facebook is still free.


True, but they can still build a profile off you based on the people you know that have signed up for it. I find it funny, people think PRISM is bad but the data collected on all of us by the large internet corporations is insane.

/SEM/SEO guy, I use that data to sale you folks crap.
 
2013-10-14 04:44:53 PM
Wow, the number of stupid farkers in this thread who don't understand that Zuckerberg owes them nothing is astounding.

Don't like it, don't use it. How is this so difficult to understand?
 
2013-10-14 04:46:52 PM

FTGodWin: Wow, the number of stupid farkers in this thread who don't understand that Zuckerberg owes them nothing is astounding.

Don't like it, don't use it. How is this so difficult to understand?


apparently for some, incredibly difficult.

/a free service to the consumer does not mean it is free of operating costs

//i guess some just feel a bit entitled
 
2013-10-14 04:54:09 PM

kosherkow: FTGodWin: Wow, the number of stupid farkers in this thread who don't understand that Zuckerberg owes them nothing is astounding.

Don't like it, don't use it. How is this so difficult to understand?

apparently for some, incredibly difficult.

/a free service to the consumer does not mean it is free of operating costs

//i guess some just feel a bit entitled


I think the issue people have is that the service has steadily become more and more greedy and is constantly changing their terms. It's easy enough to stop using it but it does suck when a company ropes you in then starts taking more and more. Facebook really started downhill after going public.
 
2013-10-14 04:56:22 PM

fickenchucker: Don't have FB and don't want it.

Problem solved.


Or read the article.
 
2013-10-14 04:59:15 PM

kosherkow: FTGodWin: Wow, the number of stupid farkers in this thread who don't understand that Zuckerberg owes them nothing is astounding.

Don't like it, don't use it. How is this so difficult to understand?

apparently for some, incredibly difficult.

/a free service to the consumer does not mean it is free of operating costs

//i guess some just feel a bit entitled


So complaining is no longer allowed?

I love how it goes straight to "entitlement" when there's a hypocrisy complaint against the founder.

If anything it's a bait and switch scenario, and guess what? Deleting your account doesn't delete your info.
 
2013-10-14 05:07:29 PM

James10952001: kosherkow: FTGodWin: Wow, the number of stupid farkers in this thread who don't understand that Zuckerberg owes them nothing is astounding.

Don't like it, don't use it. How is this so difficult to understand?

apparently for some, incredibly difficult.

/a free service to the consumer does not mean it is free of operating costs

//i guess some just feel a bit entitled

I think the issue people have is that the service has steadily become more and more greedy and is constantly changing their terms. It's easy enough to stop using it but it does suck when a company ropes you in then starts taking more and more. Facebook really started downhill after going public.


I definitely agree with the bolded (for my own ref.) part.  However, i will stand by the "if you don't like it, don't use it" mantra for this product, especially because it is non-essential.  it's an entertainment service wrapped up in a communications package.

i would totally get behind something that had the initial conception of facebook - a posting wall, pictures, friends (an address book essentially) and a descriptor of one's self.  i look over when my wife is using it now and feel completely out of touch because of what it has evolved too.  some just like to fix what isn't broken until they break it and needs legitimate fixing - i believe this is that case.

Also (from my POV) it seems more people began using the service, so the infrastructure needed to be more robust, which in turn meant more revenue needed to keep the service viable, which generated more user service agreements to keep the cash flowing in, and now advertisers know they have FB by the balls if it means keeping it a "free" service.
 
2013-10-14 05:12:25 PM
I do like the naive ones who think quitting the service gets your privacy back.

/goodkids
 
2013-10-14 05:21:21 PM
Social media for the socially impaired.
 
2013-10-14 05:26:48 PM

scotchcrotch: kosherkow: FTGodWin: Wow, the number of stupid farkers in this thread who don't understand that Zuckerberg owes them nothing is astounding.

Don't like it, don't use it. How is this so difficult to understand?

apparently for some, incredibly difficult.

/a free service to the consumer does not mean it is free of operating costs

//i guess some just feel a bit entitled

So complaining is no longer allowed?

I love how it goes straight to "entitlement" when there's a hypocrisy complaint against the founder.

If anything it's a bait and switch scenario, and guess what? Deleting your account doesn't delete your info.


maybe the "entitlement" bit was a bit far, but more or less to push buttons - my apologies.

you can complain all you would like, but it still makes you appear to be a fool, especially put in the context above.

change all your account info, or delete from the entry fields entirely.  it's pretty difficult to ascertain information when you have zero interests, no friends, etc.

NOTHING on the internet is permanently deleted, why do you expect FB to be any different?  And why do you care?  there is no way to really verify you are who you say you are on FB, so there is still that vague bit of anonymity (for now).

/just wait until it requires a SSN...
 
2013-10-14 05:28:36 PM

scotchcrotch: I do like the naive ones who think quitting the service gets your privacy back.

/goodkids


what is wrong with you?  you enter a public space and WILLINGLY give up your privacy when engaging in FB, how is this not abundantly clear?...  do you expect any privacy when you go outside in a public space?  the internet is no different
 
2013-10-14 05:30:26 PM

kosherkow: scotchcrotch: I do like the naive ones who think quitting the service gets your privacy back.

/goodkids

what is wrong with you?  you enter a public space and WILLINGLY give up your privacy when engaging in FB, how is this not abundantly clear?...  do you expect any privacy when you go outside in a public space?  the internet is no different


THEN WHAT'S THE FARKING POINT OF QUITTING?
 
2013-10-14 05:30:41 PM
I find it incredibly hard to believe that Facebook doesn't get some sort of kickback from all those Zynga games they host.
 
2013-10-14 05:35:10 PM

scotchcrotch: kosherkow: scotchcrotch: I do like the naive ones who think quitting the service gets your privacy back.

/goodkids

what is wrong with you?  you enter a public space and WILLINGLY give up your privacy when engaging in FB, how is this not abundantly clear?...  do you expect any privacy when you go outside in a public space?  the internet is no different

THEN WHAT'S THE FARKING POINT OF QUITTING?


To stop giving them even more information? Seriously, it's not that hard to understand. This whole argument is like slutty women taking selfies or making sextapes then whining when they're all over the internet. Or people getting fired/not getting a job because they put stupid shiat online.
 
2013-10-14 05:36:57 PM

scotchcrotch: kosherkow: scotchcrotch: I do like the naive ones who think quitting the service gets your privacy back.

/goodkids

what is wrong with you?  you enter a public space and WILLINGLY give up your privacy when engaging in FB, how is this not abundantly clear?...  do you expect any privacy when you go outside in a public space?  the internet is no different

THEN WHAT'S THE FARKING POINT OF QUITTING?


If you value privacy so much, why keep the service?  why go an put stuff online, knowing it's not just FB, but any site visited that will keep the data you put in?

exercise common sense
 
2013-10-14 06:10:32 PM
Someone needs to build a  50ft tower and mounts a FLIR on it pointed at that prick's house. Make it a free webcam.

img.fark.net
 
2013-10-14 06:19:53 PM
I am not surprised it was only a matter of time. Publicly traded companies need to pull a profit for their stockholders.
 
2013-10-14 06:41:31 PM
I'm not Zuckerberg's biggest fan, but what he's doing doesn't sound like a big deal to me.

And I don't have a Facebook page, so I don't really give a shiat about their "privacy" settings.
 
2013-10-14 06:46:52 PM

JMan245: TheShavingofOccam123: This prick bastard just saw his stock price hit a recovery high. So of course he has to try to drive it back down again.

/You should have to pay to watch college football on TV.
/You should have to pay to watch anything on TV
/You should have to pay for anything
/You should have to pay

Gotta cover those dividends for holders... and ads apparently aren't covering it anymore.  Nor making pages pay to promote posts.  Or making people pay to have their friends see their posts.  Or pay to send someone a message to their inbox and not the "other" messages folder.  Or pay for facebook credits to use in apps.

/Pay
/Pay
/Pay
/One of us


Want to guess how I know you don't know anything about the stock market?
 
2013-10-14 07:27:16 PM
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
Stoopid facemybookers
 
2013-10-14 07:33:10 PM
I think the unexplored option of not bothering with facebook trumps silly little concerns about facebook selling your soul for you at a profit.
 
2013-10-14 07:43:46 PM

blazemongr: edmo: Ironic

How?


Because he doesn't believe in it for a living?
 
2013-10-14 07:45:05 PM

Proteios1: I think the unexplored option of not bothering with facebook trumps silly little concerns about facebook selling your soul for you at a profit.


What are you hiding?
 
2013-10-14 08:30:51 PM

robohobo: I know this is Fark, but did anyone actually read the article?


Not very many...
 
2013-10-14 09:35:44 PM

MrEricSir: Steve Jobs bought the home next to his in Palo Alto, supposedly to demolish it and put in an orchard (presumably an apple orchard.)


He actually demolished a number of the houses around the modest mid-century rancher he and his wife were raising their kids in.

And yes, he did plant an apple orchard, because that was what was there before the houses were built.

/his security detail was stationed in a house across the street.
 
2013-10-15 12:03:06 AM
La di dah, you greasy little twat.  You're still just somebody who borrowed and idea and turned a college dorm refrigerator door full of post it notes into a global circle jerk.  Don't forget to remind everybody you have more money than they do and put in lots of bedrooms and gaudy sh*t you wont use.
 
2013-10-15 11:11:09 AM

freddie freeloader: JMan245: TheShavingofOccam123: This prick bastard just saw his stock price hit a recovery high. So of course he has to try to drive it back down again.

/You should have to pay to watch college football on TV.
/You should have to pay to watch anything on TV
/You should have to pay for anything
/You should have to pay

Gotta cover those dividends for holders... and ads apparently aren't covering it anymore.  Nor making pages pay to promote posts.  Or making people pay to have their friends see their posts.  Or pay to send someone a message to their inbox and not the "other" messages folder.  Or pay for facebook credits to use in apps.

/Pay
/Pay
/Pay
/One of us

Want to guess how I know you don't know anything about the stock market?


Want to guess how I know you don't support fark for people like you to keep reading it for free?
 
2013-10-15 06:56:26 PM
Somebody should ***** that asshole.
 
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