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2013-10-14 03:57:40 PM
this happened at work the other day(grocery store).  EBT customers suddenly have unlimited money, they start splurging on things so far outside their normal buying habits it was sick. Cigarettes, candy, 3.2 beer(blue state), electronics, phones.  Why would one person need 4 phones?  cartons and cartons of cigarettes.  Pulling all the cash they can off their cards.  Wiped out my drawer, and they were lining up for more.  There were the few who didn't try to take advantage of the system, but on the whole, they took and took as much as they could.  I work in a semi-ghetto location.  It is not a question of skin color, it is a matter of culture.  I overheard on the bus one woman talking on the phone about getting some new phones with all this welfare money coming her way.  You are on the phone, why do you need another?  It is a culture of greed, of "gimme gimme."  No bills were paid.  It was all about, "How do I get mine?"

/manager called an end to it relatively quickly, but the masses are a sickening sight once they get a taste of blood in the water
//WIC program, on the other hand, is shut down during the shutdown, so the women, infants and children who need the most help are the ones who are left out in the cold
 
2013-10-14 03:58:13 PM

bearded clamorer: Madbassist1:

I'm not saying it isnt possible. I'm saying you're a farking liar.

Why would you say that?


because you are. Think about it. You're standing in line at a gas station, as you claim. It isn't like a grocery store where you have a peripheral view. You really have to work to see just what plastic is being used. In a grocery store, sure you can see if you invade someones space, but a gas station? Nah. Also most cashiers wont take plastic from kids.
 
2013-10-14 03:58:31 PM

Joe Blowme: Elegy: Nabb1: Anyone who abused this should have to pay it back. Parasites. (Not all EBT card users, just the ones who decided to hose the taxpayers.)

And they would pay it back with...... What, exactly?

our tax dollars?


Yup.

It's (not) amazing to me how many farkers tried to hang the blame on wal-mart for this.

Company says, "System is down but we'll trust you to do the right thing."

Scum of the earth immediately loot store.

Farkers defend scum.

Proving once again that no good deed goes unpunished.
 
2013-10-14 03:58:57 PM
URAPNIS: How would the user know how much was left on the card? They can't be held accountable.

Yeah, totally.  It's not like they have cell phones to call their friends and say "Get your ass up to walmart, EBT's are unlimited!"

Really? Not only do they farkin' HAVE cell phones, I'm betting that they have the latest and BEST cellphones available. Not to mention hung with bling and the baby momas all have their nails done while the baby daddys are sporting the latest brand new Nikes. Trust me...I see it all the time in the medical profession. They're on Medicare and Medicaid and dress better than those of us with jobs!
 
2013-10-14 04:00:50 PM

bluorangefyre: CruiserTwelve: Nabb1: Anyone who abused this should have to pay it back.

Anyone who abused this should be charged with theft.

Anybody who did this would do exactly what either of you would do if you woke up and saw your bank account read... ONE BILLION DOLLARS!


Knowing how these things work (read: US gov/corp/politics) I would go to the bank and get it investigated, or in writing that it's mine. Not going to risk years in prison and/or fines for some purchases I'll only enjoy for a few days before getting caught.
 
2013-10-14 04:01:11 PM

NutWrench: GanjSmokr: URAPNIS: How would the user know how much was left on the card? They can't be held accountable.

Is there a website that they can check their balance on?

There should be a toll-free number on the back of the card that lets you find out the balance.


Since I stood behind a few of these, I know that any register that can take EBT can display the current balance or print out a register tape showing the balance.

"NO!  Dis izzit right!  Call Frank at Social Security!  He said I gots $200 on dat card!  You jus' tryin'' to cheat me!  This izzit fair!"

or

"Oh.  Dat's okay.  Try dis one."  She opens her wallet and pulls out another EBT card and there are two more in the wallet.
 
2013-10-14 04:05:45 PM

Madbassist1: bearded clamorer: Madbassist1:

I'm not saying it isnt possible. I'm saying you're a farking liar.

Why would you say that?

because you are. Think about it. You're standing in line at a gas station, as you claim. It isn't like a grocery store where you have a peripheral view. You really have to work to see just what plastic is being used. In a grocery store, sure you can see if you invade someones space, but a gas station? Nah. Also most cashiers wont take plastic from kids.


If I'm inside a gas station, with one clerk, standing right behind a couple of kids buying candy and soda with a Link card, I can't see what's going on?
Yeah, and no immigrant gas station owner would ever make that kind of transaction....

You're an idiot.

/Tagged as such
 
2013-10-14 04:06:30 PM

sheep snorter: Due to Walmarts complicity in being an accessory to food stamps debit card fraud, Governor Piyush Jindal will personally cut off all food stamps for the month of November.

/hope you got yours.

//emergency rations of adult diapers will be provided to card carrying republicans/teahadists, during the month of November as a way to say thank you for getting yours.


Somehow i dont think the thieves were teaparty or Gop, but keep huffinig that paint, its doing wonders for your retardation
 
2013-10-14 04:07:30 PM
Wal-mart made a killing off of this, I've always said, they only need to be open about 2 days a month.
 
2013-10-14 04:07:41 PM

bluefoxicy: Masta Kronix: That's because Poverty = Obesity due to the horrible food options that are available at cheap prices.

Jogging costs so much money!


Try eating cheap, filler food for several months and see how long you can keep an exercise regimen going.
 
2013-10-14 04:10:06 PM
OK, how about this. Xerox server goes down resulting in EBT sales being blocked across the country. You've been shopping for an hour late Saturday afternoon and are told, "Nope, no purchase allowed." Do you turn around and restock all your groceries? Is that even allowed? I'm not sure it should be. Now over a few hours we get several full carts left behind.

So the Assistant to the Assistant Manager(who else is working Saturday night?) has a problem. His solution? Don't restock the shelves from inventory until those carts are empty and approve the EBT purchases. They're still tied to a name and it'll be the government's problem(hopefully).

Then the servers come back up and ONE woman is caught trying to buy $700 in groceries with forty-nine cents. Cops are called, amateur journalist misunderstands the facts and you get exactly ONE primary source for a story that ends up all over the internet.

I have yet to see an example of ONE person who LEFT THE STORE with more than their allotment.
 
2013-10-14 04:12:06 PM

Mr. Breeze:  I can believe that the EBT users lack the common sense or morals to do the right thing, knowing full well they weren't entitled to loot a Wal-Mart freely because of a system error. That's not the surprising part.


However I can't believe there were enough people with EBT cards shopping that particular evening to cause that kind of result. That's a lot of farking people and it's shameful.


Yes - it is.
 
2013-10-14 04:12:45 PM

The Muthaship: bearded clamorer: Why would you say that?

Because you aren't in the same room as him.


You got that right.
 
2013-10-14 04:14:19 PM
Meanwhile, Goldman Sachs gets off scot-free.
 
2013-10-14 04:16:16 PM
Xerox, which hosts some of the infrastructure used by the EBT card system, told KSLA that a power outage during a routine maintenance test caused the temporary glitch.

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2013-10-14 04:17:48 PM

Madbassist1: bearded clamorer: Madbassist1:

I'm not saying it isnt possible. I'm saying you're a farking liar.

Why would you say that?

because you are. Think about it. You're standing in line at a gas station, as you claim. It isn't like a grocery store where you have a peripheral view. You really have to work to see just what plastic is being used. In a grocery store, sure you can see if you invade someones space, but a gas station? Nah. Also most cashiers wont take plastic from kids.


Not sure what the gas stations/Quik Stops are like in your area, but here in BFNowhere they are almost always large, semi-circular counters where it is extremely easy to see what method the person in front of you is using to pay.  There are always multiple card-swipe machines front and center, and I can't imagine any apathetic counter person saying anything about the method of payment so long as the register accepts it.
 
2013-10-14 04:18:37 PM
Didn't $39 billion just get cut from the food stamp program?
 
2013-10-14 04:25:57 PM

Trance354: //WIC program, on the other hand, is shut down during the shutdown, so the women, infants and children who need the most help are the ones who are left out in the cold


It's how the system is setup.  I did a program for HSA's that are like EBTs.  When the card is swiped it passes to the processor the store and dept codes along with all the UPCs.  It uses that information to determine what is or isn't allowed by looking it up in the db.

Since things are added/removed you have to determine what to do for something not in the db.  You can allow it to go through and deal with abuses that arise or deny it until it is added and deal with those issues manually.  It looks like EBT is allow unless blacklisted while WIC is only allow items in the db.

Seeing as how the transactions were able to be processed I'd guess they lost their db but not the front-end.  It only being a few hours and Sat. means it was probably the time it took to restore the db and check it before returning it to live.
 
2013-10-14 04:26:24 PM
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Unless you're poor.
 
2013-10-14 04:27:23 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: OK, how about this. ...[Logic Redacted]

I have yet to see an example of ONE person who LEFT THE STORE with more than their allotment.


How dare you bring logic into this thread?
 
2013-10-14 04:28:10 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: bearded clamorer: Benevolent Misanthrope: Walmart workers phoned their corporate headquarters to ask how they should handle all the shoppers with unlimited, government-funded spending limits, and were told to keep the registers ringing.

"We did make the decision to continue to accept EBT cards during the outage so that they could get food for their families," Walmart representative Kayla Whaling told KSLA. She added that Walmart was, "fully engaged and monitoring the situation and transactions during the outage."

I'll just bet you were.  This was a windfall for Wal-Mart, too.  I just love how they pretend it was "so people could get food for their families".  Very close to "It's for the kids!"

The government needs to restrict the kinds of items purchased on EBT cards.
No soda, skittles, steak, or skrimps.
Just a well defined list of staples, similar to the WIC program.

I thought they already did.

And what's wrong with steak?  You think poor people should never, ever eat red meat?  I mean, I can see that they shouldn't be able to buy prime striploins... but maybe make beef OK under a certain price per pound?  It just seems overly restrictive to me that all steak would be off the menu.  I can do wonders with round steak and a jacquard tenderizer.


A good friend of mine ended up on food stamps in the 90's. While she bought the healthiest food she could with her stipend, she really focused on what her then-elementary school-aged son needed for his development. She knew how to make that money last each month, and on the off-chance that she had unspent funds at the end of the month, she would splurge on steak.

Happy to say she's now a charge nurse in a NICU ward. She makes substantial donations to women's shelters and homeless shelters as her way of giving back, and her son is a strong, healthy and well-adjusted 20-something.

And it's all thanks to STEAK.
 
2013-10-14 04:29:21 PM
the EBT system, for those not in the know, works like this: an amount of the assistance is allotted to purely foodstuffs, and the correct items are in the computer system so they come up as coming off the card automatically.  There's a little sub-total on my screen which gives and EBT total, separate from the final bill.  The difference can be used however the person wants, but is supposed to be for the items which are not on the list, but still in the store: not to be used for alcohol or drugs: toilet paper, cleaning supplies, etc.  What really happens is that they come to the counter, draw out the "cash" amount, pay for what they can with the balance, and go to the liquor store with the cash to get their fix.  The scummy bastards go to the parts of the store that have small, more valuable items(canned atlantic salmon, for instance), buy it through the lines, then come and return the items for cash, then go to the liquor store.  The leeches of the system don't bother buying the stuff, they know we aren't supposed to ask for a receipt below $10, so they get something that is $9.99 or less off the shelf and just "return" it.  These arseholes are why we have the expense of a top of the line security system in every store.

/what they don't understand is that anything that is perishable and has left the store has to be thrown out
//chucked 2 pounds of bacon yesterday.
///2 p-o-u-n-d-s of bacon
 
2013-10-14 04:32:02 PM
Just listen to them scream next month when the charges show up and they all have to pay for what they stole.

Har de har har har.
 
2013-10-14 04:32:07 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: OK, how about this. Xerox server goes down resulting in EBT sales being blocked across the country. You've been shopping for an hour late Saturday afternoon and are told, "Nope, no purchase allowed." Do you turn around and restock all your groceries? Is that even allowed? I'm not sure it should be. Now over a few hours we get several full carts left behind.

So the Assistant to the Assistant Manager(who else is working Saturday night?) has a problem. His solution? Don't restock the shelves from inventory until those carts are empty and approve the EBT purchases. They're still tied to a name and it'll be the government's problem(hopefully).

Then the servers come back up and ONE woman is caught trying to buy $700 in groceries with forty-nine cents. Cops are called, amateur journalist misunderstands the facts and you get exactly ONE primary source for a story that ends up all over the internet.

I have yet to see an example of ONE person who LEFT THE STORE with more than their allotment.


Yes. That's a brilliant theory.

Except for the multiple videos that are all over the Internet.

Was it hard to stick your head that far up your own ass? Because from here, it looks like you really had to work at it.
 
2013-10-14 04:38:01 PM

Trance354: the EBT system, for those not in the know, works like this: an amount of the assistance is allotted to purely foodstuffs, and the correct items are in the computer system so they come up as coming off the card automatically.  There's a little sub-total on my screen which gives and EBT total, separate from the final bill.  The difference can be used however the person wants, but is supposed to be for the items which are not on the list, but still in the store: not to be used for alcohol or drugs: toilet paper, cleaning supplies, etc.  What really happens is that they come to the counter, draw out the "cash" amount, pay for what they can with the balance, and go to the liquor store with the cash to get their fix.  The scummy bastards go to the parts of the store that have small, more valuable items(canned atlantic salmon, for instance), buy it through the lines, then come and return the items for cash, then go to the liquor store.  The leeches of the system don't bother buying the stuff, they know we aren't supposed to ask for a receipt below $10, so they get something that is $9.99 or less off the shelf and just "return" it.  These arseholes are why we have the expense of a top of the line security system in every store.

/what they don't understand is that anything that is perishable and has left the store has to be thrown out
//chucked 2 pounds of bacon yesterday.
///2 p-o-u-n-d-s of bacon


Close but not quite.  They return the items for store credit, then spend the store credit on stuff not allowed by food stamps, such as alcohol and cigarettes.

Then they go to the soup kitchen and eat free while our taxes pay to keep them drunk.
 
2013-10-14 04:38:52 PM

Trance354: the EBT system, for those not in the know, works like this: an amount of the assistance is allotted to purely foodstuffs, and the correct items are in the computer system so they come up as coming off the card automatically.  There's a little sub-total on my screen which gives and EBT total, separate from the final bill.  The difference can be used however the person wants, but is supposed to be for the items which are not on the list, but still in the store: not to be used for alcohol or drugs: toilet paper, cleaning supplies, etc.  What really happens is that they come to the counter, draw out the "cash" amount, pay for what they can with the balance, and go to the liquor store with the cash to get their fix.  The scummy bastards go to the parts of the store that have small, more valuable items(canned atlantic salmon, for instance), buy it through the lines, then come and return the items for cash, then go to the liquor store.  The leeches of the system don't bother buying the stuff, they know we aren't supposed to ask for a receipt below $10, so they get something that is $9.99 or less off the shelf and just "return" it.  These arseholes are why we have the expense of a top of the line security system in every store.

/what they don't understand is that anything that is perishable and has left the store has to be thrown out
//chucked 2 pounds of bacon yesterday.
///2 p-o-u-n-d-s of bacon


You do realize that all of the money they are spending, regardless of what they buy or how they buy it, all goes back into the economy.

So it's not like they're keeping the money and hoarding it, it's going right back into the economy.
 
2013-10-14 04:40:49 PM

Pick: Did you ever notice that people who pay for their groceries with EBT are fat? I swear I have never seen a skinny or normal weight person use an EBT.


Yes...I've noticed, disgusting huh?
 
2013-10-14 04:41:44 PM

unyon: Elegy: Nabb1: Anyone who abused this should have to pay it back. Parasites. (Not all EBT card users, just the ones who decided to hose the taxpayers.)

And they would pay it back with...... What, exactly?

Not American, but I would presume that future benefits payments would reflect the overspending on this particular transaction.  It's not like you actually got given more money, you just knowingly spent money that wasn't yours. Here in Canada, you wouldn't get a dime more in support until you were squared up with the government.  I presume it would work much the same for you guys.  It's like getting a misprinted cheque with a few more zeros on it than intended.  It doesn't make the money yours in any way, shape, or form.

 I'm not sure that these fine folks thought their cunning plan all the way through, though.


The problem is, when people have no money, and no food they will do whatever is necessary to get food to live.  You think it's human (or any animal's) nature to sit on their hands while they starve to death?  I know if it came down to it, I would do whatever was necessary to survive and keep my family alive.  I'm pretty sure everyone else in this thread would do the same.

I do agree it was stupid of them to essentially steal with a card that has your name on it and is easily tracked...but I don't see much that is going to be done about it (at least successfully).

Too bad there's not another Australia we can send poor people to.
 
2013-10-14 04:45:18 PM
Them whacky Democrats were just using their voter ID cards.

I wonder how long the frozen skrimps lasted in that store?
 
2013-10-14 04:46:38 PM

Elegy: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: OK, how about this. Xerox server goes down resulting in EBT sales being blocked across the country. You've been shopping for an hour late Saturday afternoon and are told, "Nope, no purchase allowed." Do you turn around and restock all your groceries? Is that even allowed? I'm not sure it should be. Now over a few hours we get several full carts left behind.

So the Assistant to the Assistant Manager(who else is working Saturday night?) has a problem. His solution? Don't restock the shelves from inventory until those carts are empty and approve the EBT purchases. They're still tied to a name and it'll be the government's problem(hopefully).

Then the servers come back up and ONE woman is caught trying to buy $700 in groceries with forty-nine cents. Cops are called, amateur journalist misunderstands the facts and you get exactly ONE primary source for a story that ends up all over the internet.

I have yet to see an example of ONE person who LEFT THE STORE with more than their allotment.

Yes. That's a brilliant theory.

Except for the multiple videos that are all over the Internet.

Was it hard to stick your head that far up your own ass? Because from here, it looks like you really had to work at it.


Take another look at your "multiple videos." Work at it.
 
2013-10-14 04:49:43 PM

hutchkc: Trance354: //WIC program, on the other hand, is shut down during the shutdown, so the women, infants and children who need the most help are the ones who are left out in the cold

It's how the system is setup.  I did a program for HSA's that are like EBTs.  When the card is swiped it passes to the processor the store and dept codes along with all the UPCs.  It uses that information to determine what is or isn't allowed by looking it up in the db.

Since things are added/removed you have to determine what to do for something not in the db.  You can allow it to go through and deal with abuses that arise or deny it until it is added and deal with those issues manually.  It looks like EBT is allow unless blacklisted while WIC is only allow items in the db.

Seeing as how the transactions were able to be processed I'd guess they lost their db but not the front-end.  It only being a few hours and Sat. means it was probably the time it took to restore the db and check it before returning it to live.


The WIC program is different, in that the person comes in with a check.  An actual printed check.  The items allowed on that check are printed on the check.  To get the check, they meet with a counselor who assesses the situation in the home about food.  They then come up with a list and cut a check.  If something doesn't match the check, they are not allowed that item, unless they pay for it with their own money.  What is on the check is sold at a deep discount(tax write-off, I'm sure), and anything extra is bought by the person in cash.

EBT does have the database, but the EBT populace is so versed on how to walk around the rules, they may as well repeal the rules.  I know one woman who is on EBT and WIC.  Her fiance is on EBT as well, and has never worked a day in his life.  There were some lean years until he latched onto the girl, but now he's busy getting her pregnant again to get some more of the government money which he has been sucking on for the entirety of his life.  She is a moral person, but she wants to "make it work for the baby."  Otherwise, she'd probably have a real job by now and be a productive member of society.  He is the anchor around her neck, dragging her down to his level.

/scum of the earth, he is
//yes, I'd be interested, even with the kid, if he wasn't around
///dip her in rubbing alcohol to get his taint off of her
 
2013-10-14 04:51:13 PM
Proving once and for all that these are good, honest folks, who just need a hand so they can get their act together and not a bunch of criminal leaches.

[ / scarcasm ]

/// 100% are democrats. I'd bet massive amounts of $$ on it.
 
2013-10-14 04:52:13 PM

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Company says, "System is down but we'll trust you to do the right thing."

Scum of the earth immediately loot store.

Farkers defend scum.

Proving once again that no good deed goes unpunished


You're talking about wal mart? The company that searches their customers bags as they leave the store?
 
2013-10-14 04:55:00 PM

johncb76006: Them whacky Democrats were just using their voter ID cards.

I wonder how long the frozen skrimps lasted in that store?


See post number boobies.
 
2013-10-14 04:55:55 PM
Party time in the neighborhood!
 
2013-10-14 04:56:32 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Elegy: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: OK, how about this. Xerox server goes down resulting in EBT sales being blocked across the country. You've been shopping for an hour late Saturday afternoon and are told, "Nope, no purchase allowed." Do you turn around and restock all your groceries? Is that even allowed? I'm not sure it should be. Now over a few hours we get several full carts left behind.

So the Assistant to the Assistant Manager(who else is working Saturday night?) has a problem. His solution? Don't restock the shelves from inventory until those carts are empty and approve the EBT purchases. They're still tied to a name and it'll be the government's problem(hopefully).

Then the servers come back up and ONE woman is caught trying to buy $700 in groceries with forty-nine cents. Cops are called, amateur journalist misunderstands the facts and you get exactly ONE primary source for a story that ends up all over the internet.

I have yet to see an example of ONE person who LEFT THE STORE with more than their allotment.

Yes. That's a brilliant theory.

Except for the multiple videos that are all over the Internet.

Was it hard to stick your head that far up your own ass? Because from here, it looks like you really had to work at it.

Take another look at your "multiple videos." Work at it.


I'm not surprised that's the best reply you've got, based on your little "theory."

Tell me - if customers weren't being allowed out the door with those full carts, why were there so many people there filling them? Perhaps that's just an entertaining evening in Mansfield for the locals, filling up carts at Walmart with items just for the hell of it?
 
2013-10-14 04:59:55 PM

Elegy: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Elegy: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: OK, how about this. Xerox server goes down resulting in EBT sales being blocked across the country. You've been shopping for an hour late Saturday afternoon and are told, "Nope, no purchase allowed." Do you turn around and restock all your groceries? Is that even allowed? I'm not sure it should be. Now over a few hours we get several full carts left behind.

So the Assistant to the Assistant Manager(who else is working Saturday night?) has a problem. His solution? Don't restock the shelves from inventory until those carts are empty and approve the EBT purchases. They're still tied to a name and it'll be the government's problem(hopefully).

Then the servers come back up and ONE woman is caught trying to buy $700 in groceries with forty-nine cents. Cops are called, amateur journalist misunderstands the facts and you get exactly ONE primary source for a story that ends up all over the internet.

I have yet to see an example of ONE person who LEFT THE STORE with more than their allotment.

Yes. That's a brilliant theory.

Except for the multiple videos that are all over the Internet.

Was it hard to stick your head that far up your own ass? Because from here, it looks like you really had to work at it.

Take another look at your "multiple videos." Work at it.

I'm not surprised that's the best reply you've got, based on your little "theory."

Tell me - if customers weren't being allowed out the door with those full carts, why were there so many people there filling them? Perhaps that's just an entertaining evening in Mansfield for the locals, filling up carts at Walmart with items just for the hell of it?


Some people call it "shopping."
 
2013-10-14 05:02:48 PM

Elegy: Here's a news report with some of the video.

Still can't find the raw video though.


So these bottom feeders left full carts of items and a mess of the store when balances started showing up on the cards. Some folks have no respect for anyone and it's a damn shame.
 
2013-10-14 05:03:04 PM
Put the appropriate negative balance on all the cards that were used to abuse the system. A simple lesson in consequences.
 
2013-10-14 05:03:09 PM

pute kisses like a man: cardex: Masta Kronix: Pick: Did you ever notice that people who pay for their groceries with EBT are fat? I swear I have never seen a skinny or normal weight person use an EBT.

That's because Poverty = Obesity due to the horrible food options that are available at cheap prices.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/nyregion/in-obesity-fight-poverty-i s -patient-zero.html?_r=0"

Yep when I started my diet and lost 150 pounds my food budget dubbled but I get home with fewer bags of food. But there are some cheap and healthy options if you know what to look for and dont mind eating the same thing every day for a week

i think the only way to eat on the cheap is fall in love with rice and beans (the kind that you soak overnight, not the kind in a can).  and, on a real luxurious day, maybe some potatoes.


In South Florida we have $1 6 piece McNuggets on Mondays and on Wednesday it's $.59 hamburgers.  So there's that too
 
2013-10-14 05:04:22 PM
did they get on thier smart phones and let the rest of the hood know what was up
 
2013-10-14 05:05:44 PM
It's like Rush Limbaugh's ID ejaculated in here.
 
2013-10-14 05:06:32 PM

jpo2269: I am just amazed at how this went from person 1 realizing there was no limit on the EBT card to the point where many people were in the know and in a position to exploit the glitch..

Of course, that fascination does not override the fact that what they did was theft pure and simple.


They used their iPhones.
 
2013-10-14 05:06:43 PM

DrewFL: URAPNIS: How would the user know how much was left on the card? They can't be held accountable.

Yeah, totally.  It's not like they have cell phones to call their friends and say "Get your ass up to walmart, EBT's are unlimited!"


you dam right we did
 
2013-10-14 05:06:54 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Elegy: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Elegy: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: OK, how about this. Xerox server goes down resulting in EBT sales being blocked across the country. You've been shopping for an hour late Saturday afternoon and are told, "Nope, no purchase allowed." Do you turn around and restock all your groceries? Is that even allowed? I'm not sure it should be. Now over a few hours we get several full carts left behind.

So the Assistant to the Assistant Manager(who else is working Saturday night?) has a problem. His solution? Don't restock the shelves from inventory until those carts are empty and approve the EBT purchases. They're still tied to a name and it'll be the government's problem(hopefully).

Then the servers come back up and ONE woman is caught trying to buy $700 in groceries with forty-nine cents. Cops are called, amateur journalist misunderstands the facts and you get exactly ONE primary source for a story that ends up all over the internet.

I have yet to see an example of ONE person who LEFT THE STORE with more than their allotment.

Yes. That's a brilliant theory.

Except for the multiple videos that are all over the Internet.

Was it hard to stick your head that far up your own ass? Because from here, it looks like you really had to work at it.

Take another look at your "multiple videos." Work at it.

I'm not surprised that's the best reply you've got, based on your little "theory."

Tell me - if customers weren't being allowed out the door with those full carts, why were there so many people there filling them? Perhaps that's just an entertaining evening in Mansfield for the locals, filling up carts at Walmart with items just for the hell of it?

Some people call it "shopping."


Once again, you're totally right.

This is the result of normal shopping patterns over 2 hours on your typical day:

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com

I see the light now. It's all a media conspiracy to make the poor blahs look bad.
 
2013-10-14 05:08:20 PM

olddinosaur: Trance354: the EBT system,.....

/what they don't understand is that anything that is perishable and has left the store has to be thrown out
//chucked 2 pounds of bacon yesterday.
///2 p-o-u-n-d-s of bacon

Close but not quite.  They return the items for store credit, then spend the store credit on stuff not allowed by food stamps, such as alcohol and cigarettes.

Then they go to the soup kitchen and eat free while our taxes pay to keep them drunk.


No, I've seen it.  Hell, I've had to process the transactions.  They kick up a fuss and the managers step in and give them cash.  They act like the GOP are now and wail until they get their way.  One guy just yesterday kicked up a fuss about the money he spent on groceries.  He said he wanted a refund on items he didn't bring back.  Absolutely refused to leave until he was given free money.  I politely refused to give him anything, pointing out that he didn't bring anything back, and he was responsible for buying the 9 packs of soda which were now at his house, not to mention the other things he'd grabbed, thinking the well was bottomless during the EBT fiasco.  He missed the cut off by a few minutes and was pissed off he was charged for items he bought, yet he also wanted to keep the items and buy more things, such as food, so he wouldn't starve during the next month.  A manager came over and talked him down to $20.  I'd have(and did) told him to go fly a kite, but he was kicking up a fuss, so the manager placated him.

/they aren't eating at the food bank, they are eating quite well, considering not a one of them is underweight
//unless they're on meth, and even then....
 
2013-10-14 05:14:18 PM

GanjSmokr: Madbassist1: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Madbassist1: The Muthaship: Madbassist1: knowledge and intent, how does that work?

Do they not know their limit?  Seems like they would.  If that can be proven, intent can be shown.

Not to argue, but I know a couple of people that use it and they just pretty much use it until it quits.

Yeah, bullshiat.  Dozens of people suddenly show up and start filling up multiple shopping carts with food right after the glitch shows up, emptying Walmart's shelves in the process...and you think they were just doing their weekly shopping?

...and when Walmart got on the loudspeaker and announced that the glitch was fixed, people abandoned their overflowing shopping carts in the aisles and quickly left the store because they all just remembered that the season premier of The Walking Dead was coming on soon?

Prove it.

/see how that works?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7cmmCYJ4eo

All those full carts were left because so many people simultaneously realized they needed to be at the gym within the next half hour.  Or something like that.  Definitely not because people were trying to game the system while it was down.  Nope.


Whooooa.  Now I totally understand the argument about possible rioting if they weren't allowed through.  You could see the people getting restless in line.  I feel bad for those employees.  A lot of that food is probably past the point of reshelfing.
 
2013-10-14 05:15:12 PM

Nabb1: Anyone who abused this should have to pay it back. Parasites. (Not all EBT card users, just the ones who decided to hose the taxpayers.)


Actually this was a prime example of why some poor stay poor. Short, they are dumb and bad at screwing the system. Only a stupid person would think this was a magical time where a transaction was going to go unrecorded.
 
2013-10-14 05:17:30 PM
 
2013-10-14 05:18:37 PM
everybody knows goddam AUTOZONE takes ebt, farking AUTOZONE
 
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