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2013-10-14 02:57:16 PM

rumpelstiltskin: "We did make the decision to continue to accept EBT cards during the outage so that they could get food for their families," Walmart representative Kayla Whaling told KSLA.

I support this decision on environmental grounds. I've spent some time in LA, and I know that if those people didn't get their Cheerios and Tyson chicken from Walmart, they'd be eating whatever they found in the swamps, most of which is still pending identification by science. Those farkers will eat anything. They don't care how many legs or eyes or what have you some creature's got, if it moves, they'll chase it down and pop it in their mouths. Or mix it with some raw sewage and call it some kind of soup. It's fascinating watching a Louisianan eat. You're minding your own business, checking out the cypress trees, and all of the sudden some local will take a bite and you and all your friends look at each other and say, "Did he just eat that farking thing?"


you are crazy, cajun food is the best food on the planet

/you sound skinny
 
2013-10-14 02:57:29 PM

cardex: Yep when I started my diet and lost 150 pounds my food budget dubbled but I get home with fewer bags of food. But there are some cheap and healthy options if you know what to look for and dont mind eating the same thing every day for a week


True there are other options available but when you take into account all the others issues people and families face when living in poverty, it's understandable why they don't prioritize spending extra time and money figuring out how to eat more healthy foods with the little money they have.
 
2013-10-14 02:58:24 PM

The Billdozer: Madbassist1: bearded clamorer: Can't tell you how many times I've been in line at a grocery store, or even a gas station mini-mart, where children with no adult accompaniment have purchased soda, candy, and junk food with a Link card.

I can. Zero.

There are workaround that Ive seen with the rules of govt assistance programs. Two examples spring to mind:

1) You cant buy a fast food drink with it. So the clerk will tell them they cant ring it up and they can take the straw out or dont put the straw in at all and then its ok to buy.

2) You cant buy hot fast food. So instead of buying the warmed verson of the sandwich, there are cold ones you can buy and then warm it up. What the hell is the difference?

Has anyone else seen this?



I worked in a grocery store years ago, the two that I saw all the time were 1) buying something like unsweetened kool-aid packets for $.08, paying with a $1 food stamp and getting the change.  Often someone would do this 20+ times, asking for each packet to be rung up separately and 2) buying multiple bottles of NyQuill and kool-aid, which were mixed together to get drunk/high.
 
2013-10-14 02:59:01 PM

URAPNIS: How would the user know how much was left on the card? They can't be held accountable.


Is there a website that they can check their balance on?
 
2013-10-14 03:00:34 PM

Magnanimous_J: Rik01: These EBT cards are registered to the users. A record is kept of each use including what was purchased. If you have a $250 limit and go and manage to buy $500 worth of approved goods, chances are, for the next month you'll get zero credit.

It's almost as if thinking things through isn't a cornerstone of poor swamp trash culture.


Counterpoint, it's almost as if a lack of education and being taught critical thinking skills allows people to make decisions that seem stupid/borderline retarded to those of us who had the luxury of an education worth a damn.

It's not that people are born "poor swamp trash culture" it's that they are born into a "poor swamp trash culture" and don't know any better. Educate somebody and watch how quickly they change.
 
2013-10-14 03:01:17 PM

GanjSmokr: URAPNIS: How would the user know how much was left on the card? They can't be held accountable.

Is there a website that they can check their balance on?


There should be a toll-free number on the back of the card that lets you find out the balance.
 
2013-10-14 03:03:24 PM

Madbassist1: bearded clamorer: Madbassist1: bearded clamorer: Can't tell you how many times I've been in line at a grocery store, or even a gas station mini-mart, where children with no adult accompaniment have purchased soda, candy, and junk food with a Link card.

I can. Zero.

Sadly, you are wrong.

No I'm not.


Don't want to argue with you.
Here you go:

https://www.dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?item=30357

What services are offered?

SNAP benefits can be used to buy:

any food or food product for human consumption,
seeds and plants for use in home gardens to produce food.

SNAP benefits cannot be used to buy:

Hot foods ready to eat,
Food intended to be heated in the store,
Lunch counter items or foods to be eaten in the store,
Vitamins or medicines,
Pet foods,
Any nonfood items (except seeds and plants),
Alcoholic beverages,
Tobacco

 
2013-10-14 03:04:04 PM

Magnanimous_J: Rik01: These EBT cards are registered to the users. A record is kept of each use including what was purchased. If you have a $250 limit and go and manage to buy $500 worth of approved goods, chances are, for the next month you'll get zero credit.

It's almost as if thinking things through isn't a cornerstone of poor swamp trash culture.


honestly even though it seems bad, in order to avoid possible violence and rioting in this particular location it does seem like they made the best decision and err'd on the side of caution and simply said let them have food.  It is one day of the year and you can be sure they'll make up for it with or without state assistance.  They can always write off the cost as a "donation" of some kind.

This was a win-win situation for Wal-Mart to let them have food.  If they hadn't allowed them to make purchases you can bet there would be a lot more shiatty press...possible looting and violence.  The entitlement mentality can get dangerous very quickly.  Things tend to escalate.  quickly.  I see what I did there.
 
2013-10-14 03:04:11 PM

NutWrench: GanjSmokr: URAPNIS: How would the user know how much was left on the card? They can't be held accountable.

Is there a website that they can check their balance on?

There should be a toll-free number on the back of the card that lets you find out the balance.


That should take care of that whole accountability issue...
 
2013-10-14 03:04:45 PM
 I can believe that the EBT users lack the common sense or morals to do the right thing, knowing full well they weren't entitled to loot a Wal-Mart freely because of a system error. That's not the surprising part.


However I can't believe there were enough people with EBT cards shopping that particular evening to cause that kind of result. That's a lot of farking people and it's shameful.
 
2013-10-14 03:09:22 PM

The Muthaship: So they were supposed to stop all sales because there was a possible glitch?  I think that puts them in a tough spot.  Lots of the purchases were probably legitimate.



All of the stores (including Walmart) around me had "No EBT transactions" signs on the doors.  I didn't see Jesse Jackson or Rev Al anywhere around because of that.

/requiring people to check EBT card balances is racist.
 
2013-10-14 03:11:22 PM

Mr. Breeze:  I can believe that the EBT users lack the common sense or morals to do the right thing, knowing full well they weren't entitled to loot a Wal-Mart freely because of a system error. That's not the surprising part.


However I can't believe there were enough people with EBT cards shopping that particular evening to cause that kind of result. That's a lot of farking people and it's shameful.


Either it's in a bad side of town, or everyone had to tell their friends. No way a ton of people found out by accident
 
2013-10-14 03:11:41 PM
This weekend I was flipping around and I thought I saw a cooking show. It was on Fox, some 20something had a lobster on his grill and talking about how he was using EBT until he became a rockstar. They paraded out more people that were probaly scamming the system and used this as a case to cut the whole program. Just kinda rolled my eyes and changed the channel.


My company had a smilar problem to this when they used ADP, thats the first problem. Every now and then for whatever reason we would recieve double pay and our managers would get us all together and tell us that we got double pay and not to go crazy because it would be fixed monday. We would be asked if we understood, say yes and sign a form. There was always at least one idiot that went on a shopping spree. The last time it was this woman and when she spent it all she only got paid half as much for the next 2 pay periods and boy did she cry about that.
 
2013-10-14 03:12:02 PM
I am just amazed at how this went from person 1 realizing there was no limit on the EBT card to the point where many people were in the know and in a position to exploit the glitch..

Of course, that fascination does not override the fact that what they did was theft pure and simple.
 
2013-10-14 03:12:45 PM
Here's a news report with some of the video.

Still can't find the raw video though.
 
2013-10-14 03:12:58 PM

SCUBA_Archer: The Muthaship: So they were supposed to stop all sales because there was a possible glitch?  I think that puts them in a tough spot.  Lots of the purchases were probably legitimate.


All of the stores (including Walmart) around me had "No EBT transactions" signs on the doors.  I didn't see Jesse Jackson or Rev Al anywhere around because of that.

/requiring people to check EBT card balances is racist.


limits on EBT cards is racist
 
2013-10-14 03:14:20 PM
Timmy the Tumor:


I worked in a grocery store years ago, the two that I saw all the time were 1) buying something like unsweetened kool-aid packets for $.08, paying with a $1 food stamp and getting the change.  Often someone would do this 20+ times, asking for each packet to be rung up separately and 2) buying multiple bottles of NyQuill and kool-aid, which were mixed together to get drunk/high.

Since I just watched a show about "Lean" and how it's made I know you aren't making this up.  Still, just reading that makes my stomach curl into a ball and try to hide behind my liver.

*shudder*
 
2013-10-14 03:15:24 PM

Timmy the Tumor: EBT cards is racist


Get you hands off my hard earned paycheck.

Earn your own.
 
2013-10-14 03:21:03 PM

Rik01: The Government, in the Social Assistance System, doesn't like losing money.


Yeah, just $17,000,000,000,000 of it. If it's from the government, it's all social assistance.
 
2013-10-14 03:21:15 PM
Just pay it back?? YO (I mean 'you') mean as if they were police or gov. thieves?  At the very minimum they should lose the damned things until every bit is paid back along with a reasonable fine of at least 25% of what they stole. I would think community service of 100 hours to get them the hell off their ass and do something constructive - since they were obviously able to get their happy asses around the store and steal as much as possible - would be called for!
 
2013-10-14 03:21:43 PM

URAPNIS: How would the user know how much was left on the card? They can't be held accountable.


They were only Freshmen.
 
2013-10-14 03:23:26 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-14 03:23:28 PM
ive said it over and over again...

lousyana cant have nice things.
 
2013-10-14 03:24:34 PM

Masta Kronix: That's because Poverty = Obesity due to the horrible food options that are available at cheap prices.


Jogging costs so much money!
 
2013-10-14 03:25:31 PM

cardex: Yep when I started my diet and lost 150 pounds my food budget dubbled but I get home with fewer bags of food. But there are some cheap and healthy options if you know what to look for and dont mind eating the same thing every day for a week


Mine usually goes from the $450-$600 per month range to the $120-$180 per month range.  It's expensive to feed myself junk.
 
2013-10-14 03:29:07 PM

URAPNIS: How would the user know how much was left on the card? They can't be held accountable.


A balance shows up on the bottom of the receipt. If the balance shows $1,000,000.00 after you spent your last $5 on something, you'd know.

It's just like the miracle of the widow's oil in the bible. This was an act of God, ya'll.
 
2013-10-14 03:29:18 PM
Kind of gives Black Friday a new meaning.
 
2013-10-14 03:29:55 PM

CruiserTwelve: Nabb1: Anyone who abused this should have to pay it back.

Anyone who abused this should be charged with theft.


Anybody who did this would do exactly what either of you would do if you woke up and saw your bank account read... ONE BILLION DOLLARS!
 
2013-10-14 03:30:38 PM

Madbassist1: hutchkc: And lose that benefit for life. I'm here today because my parents got food stamps and such. It's assholes like the people mentioned that give justification to people that want to get rid of the programs altogether.

Good christ, you self righteous prick, how do you know your parents didnt swap stamps for booze or some such, or just sold them outright for .50 on the dollar. They likely did, so fark you.



Maybe I am a self-righteous prick, but I have no sympathy for people that knowing abuse the system.  Food stamps/pantries hold a special spot for me as that's how we had food as a kid.  Many people need those things and watching someone abuse it really makes me upset.

There are many people that wish to get rid of social programs and this is more fodder for them on abuses.  It will be used as another example of freeloaders and put more cuts into their budget so it helps even less people than now.

The amount is very small and you can't even buy certain necessary items like TP.  So with these people filling up multiple carts they obviously knew something was amiss, which is why they abandoned their carts when it was said the issue was fixed.  Which tells me they had intent to steal/defraud/whatever from the system and thus should not be allowed to use the system.
 
2013-10-14 03:32:21 PM

Madbassist1: CruiserTwelve: Nabb1: Anyone who abused this should have to pay it back.

Anyone who abused this should be charged with theft.

knowledge and intent, how does that work?


I'd say when you have your cart piled 6 ft high and that isn't your regular monthly purchase you are showing knowledge and intent. You know that your ccard has a monthly spending limit. If you load up with disregard for that limit, you knew what you were doing.

When wal mart announced that the cards were working correctly again those people ditched their overloaded carts.
 
2013-10-14 03:32:49 PM

reubendaley: URAPNIS: How would the user know how much was left on the card? They can't be held accountable.

They were only Freshmen.


Ok that made me laugh. Havent heard that song in a while.
 
2013-10-14 03:36:18 PM

bluorangefyre: CruiserTwelve: Nabb1: Anyone who abused this should have to pay it back.

Anyone who abused this should be charged with theft.

Anybody who did this would do exactly what either of you would do if you woke up and saw your bank account read... ONE BILLION DOLLARS!


Are you saying that you think everyone, upon seeing that they had a $1,000,000,000 bank error in their favor, would go spend it as fast as they could??
 
2013-10-14 03:36:24 PM

hutchkc: The amount is very small and you can't even buy certain necessary items like TP.


I never use toilet paper.  If you think toilet paper is necessary, your hygiene must be terrible and you need to keep your diseased ass away from me.

/Paper towels are necessary because everyone knows you need to wipe your hands off with a paper towel before you prepare dinner, especially if you've been handling raw manure.
 
2013-10-14 03:37:45 PM

TDBoedy: Magnanimous_J: Rik01: These EBT cards are registered to the users. A record is kept of each use including what was purchased. If you have a $250 limit and go and manage to buy $500 worth of approved goods, chances are, for the next month you'll get zero credit.

It's almost as if thinking things through isn't a cornerstone of poor swamp trash culture.

honestly even though it seems bad, in order to avoid possible violence and rioting in this particular location it does seem like they made the best decision and err'd on the side of caution and simply said let them have food.  It is one day of the year and you can be sure they'll make up for it with or without state assistance.  They can always write off the cost as a "donation" of some kind.

This was a win-win situation for Wal-Mart to let them have food.  If they hadn't allowed them to make purchases you can bet there would be a lot more shiatty press...possible looting and violence.  The entitlement mentality can get dangerous very quickly.  Things tend to escalate.  quickly.  I see what I did there.


Totally. Even though Wal Mart might have pocketed a few grand out of the chaos, the real win was the amount of damage and injuries that DIDN'T occur due to riot.


Masta Kronix: Counterpoint, it's almost as if a lack of education and being taught critical thinking skills allows people to make decisions that seem stupid/borderline retarded to those of us who had the luxury of an education worth a damn.



You don't need a good education to understand consequences. Even the dog learns to stop harassing porcupines after the third time he gets a nose full of quills. It's accountability. And not to the government either. If any other members of this community had said "What the hell are you doing? You are acting like inbred swamp trash and making us all look horrible." But in America we've decided that shame is an obsolete concept. No shame in Trustafarians getting on EBT and buying lobster jerky; no shame in letting your toddler eat Cup Noodles every night because you just installed a 3000 dollar stereo in a 1000 dollar car; No shame in leaving the house looking like shiat; no shame in cheating on your wife; no shame in letting yourself get fat; no shame in anything. A good education and opportunities are crucial for underserved communities, but class is free.
 
2013-10-14 03:41:28 PM

Magnanimous_J: lobster jerky


Is there such a thing?  I was somewhat excited after reading those words together but disappointed after a quick Google search.
 
2013-10-14 03:42:23 PM

Madbassist1: The Muthaship: Madbassist1: knowledge and intent, how does that work?

Do they not know their limit?  Seems like they would.  If that can be proven, intent can be shown.

Not to argue, but I know a couple of people that use it and they just pretty much use it until it quits.


Yeah, bullshiat.  Dozens of people suddenly show up and start filling up multiple shopping carts with food right after the glitch shows up, emptying Walmart's shelves in the process...and you think they were just doing their weekly shopping?

...and when Walmart got on the loudspeaker and announced that the glitch was fixed, people abandoned their overflowing shopping carts in the aisles and quickly left the store because they all just remembered that the season premier of The Walking Dead was coming on soon?
 
2013-10-14 03:43:05 PM
Due to Walmarts complicity in being an accessory to food stamps debit card fraud, Governor Piyush Jindal will personally cut off all food stamps for the month of November.

/hope you got yours.

//emergency rations of adult diapers will be provided to card carrying republicans/teahadists, during the month of November as a way to say thank you for getting yours.
 
2013-10-14 03:43:40 PM
No shame in relying on anecdotes to decide the working poor don't deserve that whopping $1.47 per meal.
 
2013-10-14 03:45:33 PM
But it still beats the Discover card?
 
2013-10-14 03:47:08 PM

bearded clamorer: Madbassist1: bearded clamorer: Madbassist1: bearded clamorer: Can't tell you how many times I've been in line at a grocery store, or even a gas station mini-mart, where children with no adult accompaniment have purchased soda, candy, and junk food with a Link card.

I can. Zero.

Sadly, you are wrong.

No I'm not.

Don't want to argue with you.
Here you go:

https://www.dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?item=30357

What services are offered?

SNAP benefits can be used to buy:

any food or food product for human consumption,
seeds and plants for use in home gardens to produce food.

SNAP benefits cannot be used to buy:

Hot foods ready to eat,
Food intended to be heated in the store,
Lunch counter items or foods to be eaten in the store,
Vitamins or medicines,
Pet foods,
Any nonfood items (except seeds and plants),
Alcoholic beverages,
Tobacco


I'm not saying it isnt possible. I'm saying you're a farking liar.
 
2013-10-14 03:47:36 PM

Mr. Breeze: However I can't believe there were enough people with EBT cards shopping that particular evening to cause that kind of result. That's a lot of farking people and it's shameful.


Makes you wonder how many of them were friends/family with the Walmart employees and got a phone call, "Hey, y'all gots ta get down heah!"

Walmart has a shameful number of employees on some form of public assistance.
 
2013-10-14 03:47:44 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Madbassist1: The Muthaship: Madbassist1: knowledge and intent, how does that work?

Do they not know their limit?  Seems like they would.  If that can be proven, intent can be shown.

Not to argue, but I know a couple of people that use it and they just pretty much use it until it quits.

Yeah, bullshiat.  Dozens of people suddenly show up and start filling up multiple shopping carts with food right after the glitch shows up, emptying Walmart's shelves in the process...and you think they were just doing their weekly shopping?

...and when Walmart got on the loudspeaker and announced that the glitch was fixed, people abandoned their overflowing shopping carts in the aisles and quickly left the store because they all just remembered that the season premier of The Walking Dead was coming on soon?


Prove it.

/see how that works?
 
2013-10-14 03:50:05 PM
bluefoxicy:
/Paper towels are necessary because everyone knows you need to wipe your hands off with a paper towel before you prepare dinner, especially if you've been handling raw manure.


No, no, just NO ... pants legs are for post poo washing, shirt for everything else :)
 
2013-10-14 03:50:30 PM
Ha, DFCS just announced that the stores are gonna have to eat the losses. Too bad, so sad. Suck it, Waltons.

Hopefully they won't uh... crawfish.
 
2013-10-14 03:51:28 PM

GanjSmokr: Magnanimous_J: lobster jerky

Is there such a thing?  I was somewhat excited after reading those words together but disappointed after a quick Google search.


I googled for an appropriate picture or gif and came up with this:

i450.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-14 03:51:28 PM

Madbassist1:

I'm not saying it isnt possible. I'm saying you're a farking liar.


Why would you say that?
 
2013-10-14 03:53:37 PM

Madbassist1: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Madbassist1: The Muthaship: Madbassist1: knowledge and intent, how does that work?

Do they not know their limit?  Seems like they would.  If that can be proven, intent can be shown.

Not to argue, but I know a couple of people that use it and they just pretty much use it until it quits.

Yeah, bullshiat.  Dozens of people suddenly show up and start filling up multiple shopping carts with food right after the glitch shows up, emptying Walmart's shelves in the process...and you think they were just doing their weekly shopping?

...and when Walmart got on the loudspeaker and announced that the glitch was fixed, people abandoned their overflowing shopping carts in the aisles and quickly left the store because they all just remembered that the season premier of The Walking Dead was coming on soon?

Prove it.

/see how that works?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7cmmCYJ4eo

All those full carts were left because so many people simultaneously realized they needed to be at the gym within the next half hour.  Or something like that.  Definitely not because people were trying to game the system while it was down.  Nope.
 
2013-10-14 03:53:41 PM

bearded clamorer: Why would you say that?


Because you aren't in the same room as him.
 
2013-10-14 03:55:57 PM

Towermonkey: Ha, DFCS just announced that the stores are gonna have to eat the losses. Too bad, so sad. Suck it, Waltons.

Hopefully they won't uh... crawfish.


I'll believe it when I see it.
 
2013-10-14 03:57:19 PM
Madbassist1:
Prove it.

Falls under the admissibility of circumstantial evidence in court.  A reasonable person would chain all of this shiat together and assume you would have to be bat shiat retarded to not conclude that these people were taking advantage of the system by intent.  Sudden habiatchanges like significant excessive spending would indicate cognizance of a situational deviation.
 
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