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(Forbes)   Scientists discover inverse correlation between number of killings and box office success of Stephen King adaptations. M-O-O-N, that spells infographic   (forbes.com) divider line 29
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2013-10-14 10:25:25 AM  
Nice Log-Linear graphic, Forbes!  Aiming highbrow, despite the subject matter.
 
2013-10-14 10:37:22 AM  

factoryconnection: Nice Log-Linear graphic, Forbes!  Aiming highbrow, despite the subject matter.


Except their data set totally sucks.
 
2013-10-14 11:13:08 AM  
Wouldn't the daughters in the Shining count? I suppose they were already dead at the time the movie took place but we did she their bloody corpses. And isn't there a theory that Jack was already dead at the start? I dunno, the movie made no sense at all but was awesome.
 
2013-10-14 12:34:53 PM  

Mugato: Wouldn't the daughters in the Shining count? I suppose they were already dead at the time the movie took place but we did she their bloody corpses. And isn't there a theory that Jack was already dead at the start? I dunno, the movie made no sense at all but was awesome.


And the twins in The Green Mile?
 
2013-10-14 12:36:38 PM  

Confabulat: Except their data set totally sucks.


Yeah the error band on that trendline would be huge, and the "data points" are estimates for the high end.  How hard is it to find people that have seen Stephen King movies to flesh even this puff piece out?
 
2013-10-14 12:36:56 PM  
I'm not sure what their box offices were, but considering their critical success The Shawshank Redemption and Stand By Me would support the hypothesis.
 
2013-10-14 12:45:31 PM  
That is a really small data set.  No mentions of Cujo, Running Man, or Shawshank?  It's like the author felt the need to throw up an article related to the new movie coming up and spent all of ten minutes on Wikipedia doing research.

Also, I still don't get the point of remaking Carrie.  There are plenty of King books that either have yet to be adapted (Long Walk, Dark Tower, 11/22/63), or could stand to be adapted again (Running Man, The Stand), that it seems pointless to re-adapt one of the Stephen King movies that was already really well done.  My biggest problem with the remake is that the casting of Carrie just doesn't seem right.  Carrie should be incredibly plain looking and an obvious outcast.
 
2013-10-14 12:46:11 PM  

Pop Goes The Weasel: I'm not sure what their box offices were, but considering their critical success The Shawshank Redemption and Stand By Me would support the hypothesis.


I was thinking "surely it has an asymptote with a bomb of a movie at zero dead" but no such thing. There's always someone dead in a Stephen King movie. And if the writer had a pro-account on IMDB they might have actually derived better data.

Of course, the better data would probably indicate there's a better correlation between directorship and profit. Some of the King movies were shot by lousy directors.
 
2013-10-14 12:47:05 PM  
What is all this happy crappy?
 
2013-10-14 01:01:38 PM  
Somehow they convinced someone to give them grant money for this research.


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2013-10-14 01:05:47 PM  

wildcardjack: Of course, the better data would probably indicate there's a better correlation between directorship and profit. Some of the King movies were shot by lousy directors.


Exactly, add into that the limitations of the source material(Length often requiring watered-down TV miniseries to truly capture the journey), and this data set sucks... I think The Mist was horribly done, for example, but I loved Firestarter...
 
2013-10-14 01:07:42 PM  

Mugato: Wouldn't the daughters in the Shining count? I suppose they were already dead at the time the movie took place but we did she their bloody corpses. And isn't there a theory that Jack was already dead at the start? I dunno, the movie made no sense at all but was awesome.


The movie made plenty of sense... The Overlook is an evil spot on the earth, and it brought out the worst in people. That 'worst' lived on and influenced the next people there who were vulnerable.

And I don't know how Jack could have been dead at the start.
 
2013-10-14 01:07:49 PM  

Mikey1969: wildcardjack: Of course, the better data would probably indicate there's a better correlation between directorship and profit. Some of the King movies were shot by lousy directors.

Exactly, add into that the limitations of the source material(Length often requiring watered-down TV miniseries to truly capture the journey), and this data set sucks... I think The Mist was horribly done, for example, but I loved Firestarter...


The Mist was horribly cast, and the ending was stupid.
 
2013-10-14 01:16:40 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Mikey1969: wildcardjack: Of course, the better data would probably indicate there's a better correlation between directorship and profit. Some of the King movies were shot by lousy directors.

Exactly, add into that the limitations of the source material(Length often requiring watered-down TV miniseries to truly capture the journey), and this data set sucks... I think The Mist was horribly done, for example, but I loved Firestarter...

The Mist was horribly cast, and the ending was stupid.


It was a shame, because I absolutely LOVE the original novella.
 
2013-10-14 01:18:15 PM  

NeoCortex42: That is a really small data set.  No mentions of Cujo, Running Man, or Shawshank?  It's like the author felt the need to throw up an article related to the new movie coming up and spent all of ten minutes on Wikipedia doing research.

Also, I still don't get the point of remaking Carrie.  There are plenty of King books that either have yet to be adapted (Long Walk, Dark Tower, 11/22/63), or could stand to be adapted again (Running Man, The Stand), that it seems pointless to re-adapt one of the Stephen King movies that was already really well done.  My biggest problem with the remake is that the casting of Carrie just doesn't seem right.  Carrie should be incredibly plain looking and an obvious outcast.


Have you seen 1976 Carrie recently?  That movie sucked out loud, with only the last 30 seconds being a fun jump scare.  The Rage: Carrie 2 was pretty terrible as well.  It's one of King's works that makes sense to translate well to commercial film success.  It's a coming of age teenage revenge fantasy.  The Long Walk would be a far more niche movie, Dark Tower is a long series to commit to and 11/22/63 has a long middle part that would film well.  Surprised about Running Man not being more recently adapted, though it might just be too thematically similar to The Hunger Games.

The only other teen angst story I can think of that would be filmable and could use a remake would be Firestarter.  Those special effects didn't hold up at all.

Chloe is a fantastic actress though and has proven to be able to fit any role a script requires of her, so I'm not sure what the concerns about that are.
 
2013-10-14 01:23:38 PM  

The Muthaship: Mugato: Wouldn't the daughters in the Shining count? I suppose they were already dead at the time the movie took place but we did she their bloody corpses. And isn't there a theory that Jack was already dead at the start? I dunno, the movie made no sense at all but was awesome.

And the twins in The Green Mile?


How many people did the boy take down in Apt Pupil before the cops got him?
 
2013-10-14 01:25:07 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Surprised about Running Man not being more recently adapted, though it might just be too thematically similar to The Hunger Games.


I think one major reason for not having a faithful adaptation is that the ending probably makes the studio execs nervous about greenlighting it.  I think it's a stupid reason, but that doesn't mean it's not the case.

The only other reason I could think of is that the incredible cheese of the original might still be too memorable for audiences to get past.  Then again, that didn't stop them from remaking Total Recall.
 
2013-10-14 01:41:12 PM  

Fano: How many people did the boy take down in Apt Pupil before the cops got him?


Zero in the movie, which I think flopped, so that is an argument against this writer's thesis anyway.

I was so pissed off when they changed the ending. *shakes impotent fist at Columbine*
 
2013-10-14 02:24:05 PM  

Mikey1969: Mugato: Wouldn't the daughters in the Shining count? I suppose they were already dead at the time the movie took place but we did she their bloody corpses. And isn't there a theory that Jack was already dead at the start? I dunno, the movie made no sense at all but was awesome.

The movie made plenty of sense... The Overlook is an evil spot on the earth, and it brought out the worst in people. That 'worst' lived on and influenced the next people there who were vulnerable.

And I don't know how Jack could have been dead at the start.


I think the idea is that he's haunting his family, but that doesn't make sense, as we see him (in the film) drive the Beetle up to the Overlook.

Shining fans: Room 237 is up on Netflix.  If you haven't seen it, you need to check it out.  There's some good stuff in there, and the theories the people offer as to the meaning of the Shining will make your own pet theory look completely sane.
 
2013-10-14 02:33:42 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Shining fans: Room 237 is up on Netflix.  If you haven't seen it, you need to check it out.  There's some good stuff in there, and the theories the people offer as to the meaning of the Shining will make your own pet theory look completely sane.


Well, that's the problem I have with Room 237, I have no "pet theories"... Then again, I DO like when people read WAY too much into things. Conspiracy theories are always a blast, so this wold be along those same lines.
 
2013-10-14 03:31:42 PM  
Mikey1969: Conspiracy theories are always a blast, so this wold be along those same lines.

"Always"? I think these guys might have/have had an issue with that idea:

media.boingboing.net

/People who seriously think the moon landing was faked should be drawn and quartered
//Then their body parts eaten by wild dogs
 
2013-10-14 04:06:59 PM  

Henry Holland: Mikey1969: Conspiracy theories are always a blast, so this wold be along those same lines.

"Always"? I think these guys might have/have had an issue with that idea:

[media.boingboing.net image 300x300]

/People who seriously think the moon landing was faked should be drawn and quartered
//Then their body parts eaten by wild dogs


LOL, the people right outside my office door were just joking about that.

God, I HOPE they were joking.

The worst part about the moon landing people are that some of their biggest "evidence" is the photographs, and every one of those questions has been answered by actual independent photographers(So they can't claim the rebuttals are "tainted"), and yet thy still push forward with that one.
 
2013-10-14 04:56:28 PM  
Laws yes.
 
2013-10-14 06:56:43 PM  

Confabulat: Fano: How many people did the boy take down in Apt Pupil before the cops got him?

Zero in the movie, which I think flopped, so that is an argument against this writer's thesis anyway.

I was so pissed off when they changed the ending. *shakes impotent fist at Columbine*


what effect did Columbine have on Apt pupil? I thought it just caused  RAGE to go out of print.
 
2013-10-14 09:06:29 PM  

Mikey1969: The movie made plenty of sense... The Overlook is an evil spot on the earth, and it brought out the worst in people. That 'worst' lived on and influenced the next people there who were vulnerable.


So what was Jack doing at the picture at the end?
 
2013-10-14 09:18:21 PM  

Mugato: Mikey1969: The movie made plenty of sense... The Overlook is an evil spot on the earth, and it brought out the worst in people. That 'worst' lived on and influenced the next people there who were vulnerable.

So what was Jack doing at the picture at the end?


The picture just shows that after he died he became a part of the party that has been going on at the Overlook for ages.
 
2013-10-14 10:37:21 PM  

Mugato: Mikey1969: The movie made plenty of sense... The Overlook is an evil spot on the earth, and it brought out the worst in people. That 'worst' lived on and influenced the next people there who were vulnerable.

So what was Jack doing at the picture at the end?


It's an evil place, he just was part of the cast of characters. A haunted location can have "haunted" pictures, IMHO, it always sat that way for me, the pics were just as supernatural as the rest of the place.

It's Ghostoshop...
 
2013-10-14 10:44:48 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: NeoCortex42: That is a really small data set.  No mentions of Cujo, Running Man, or Shawshank?  It's like the author felt the need to throw up an article related to the new movie coming up and spent all of ten minutes on Wikipedia doing research.

Also, I still don't get the point of remaking Carrie.  There are plenty of King books that either have yet to be adapted (Long Walk, Dark Tower, 11/22/63), or could stand to be adapted again (Running Man, The Stand), that it seems pointless to re-adapt one of the Stephen King movies that was already really well done.  My biggest problem with the remake is that the casting of Carrie just doesn't seem right.  Carrie should be incredibly plain looking and an obvious outcast.

Have you seen 1976 Carrie recently?  That movie sucked out loud, with only the last 30 seconds being a fun jump scare.  The Rage: Carrie 2 was pretty terrible as well.  It's one of King's works that makes sense to translate well to commercial film success.  It's a coming of age teenage revenge fantasy.  The Long Walk would be a far more niche movie, Dark Tower is a long series to commit to and 11/22/63 has a long middle part that would film well.  Surprised about Running Man not being more recently adapted, though it might just be too thematically similar to The Hunger Games.

The only other teen angst story I can think of that would be filmable and could use a remake would be Firestarter.  Those special effects didn't hold up at all.

Chloe is a fantastic actress though and has proven to be able to fit any role a script requires of her, so I'm not sure what the concerns about that are.


I liked the idea they had for Dark Tower a couple of years ago, 2 or 3 movies with an HBO series with one season in between each time. It would be an interesting way to do such a long epic. Of course, as well as they're doing with GOT, they could just do nong but an HBO series with no extra films...

Too bad that fell through though.
 
2013-10-15 05:00:46 AM  

Confabulat: factoryconnection: Nice Log-Linear graphic, Forbes!  Aiming highbrow, despite the subject matter.

Except their data set totally sucks.


yeah, why seven movies?  wanting to make a point?
 
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