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(Washington Post)   The Republican party is "...disunited, in flux, in transition and defeated." And that's how Republicans are describing it   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 90
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2013-10-14 11:23:38 AM  
Virginia is now a very purple state, having come within 2% of an even split in 2012 in the presidential race; and the Northern Virginia economy is largely driven by federal workers, who are particularly impacted by the current shutdown, which is widely perceived as being the fault of Republican conservatives.

About the only chance Cuccinelli has is if photos come out before election day of Terry McAuliffe getting handed a comically overstuffed briefcase leaking cash; and frankly, it's just as likely such photos would feature Cuccinelli instead.
 
2013-10-14 01:06:28 PM  
Yeah... they're fluxed alright...
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-14 01:10:16 PM  
Good.  Now for "disbanded".
 
2013-10-14 01:12:42 PM  
The GOP cannot implode fast enough.
 
2013-10-14 01:14:24 PM  
a defeat would require the party to confront like never before the division between the tea party activists who spurred Cuccinelli's nomination and the moderates, independents and business leaders

They've confronted this several times already and drawn the obvious conclusion that they just weren't conservative enough.

Also, ACORN.
 
2013-10-14 01:24:38 PM  
They're pretty goddamn hopeless at this point. They are going down, and they're going down hard. The only question remaining is how much collateral damage they're going to do to the rational world in the process.
 
2013-10-14 01:27:03 PM  
Never, and I do mean never, doubt the ability of the Democratic Party to snatch complete and utter defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
2013-10-14 01:31:28 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Never, and I do mean never, doubt the ability of the Democratic Party to snatch complete and utter defeat from the jaws of victory.


This is not a question of Democrats winning or losing. This is a question of how many more times the GOP is going to punch itself in the face.
 
2013-10-14 01:55:19 PM  
So it's basically what would happen if Greenpeace and PETA took control of the Democratic party?
 
2013-10-14 02:07:14 PM  

Lando Lincoln: The only question remaining is how much collateral damage they're going to do to the rational world in the process.


upload.wikimedia.org

HA HA THE CONSTITUTION PARTY SHALL FINALLY ARISE TO STRIKE THE IRON FIST!
 
2013-10-14 02:20:49 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Never, and I do mean never, doubt the ability of the Democratic Party to snatch complete and utter defeat from the jaws of victory.


Yeah, but as long as the Republicans have untreated abortion tourette's it sort of balances out.
 
2013-10-14 02:21:57 PM  

nmrsnr: Pocket Ninja: Never, and I do mean never, doubt the ability of the Democratic Party to snatch complete and utter defeat from the jaws of victory.

Yeah, but as long as the Republicans have untreated abortion tourette's it sort of balances out.


Did someone say "RAPE?"
 
2013-10-14 02:31:59 PM  

miss diminutive: So it's basically what would happen if Greenpeace and PETA took control of the Democratic party?


There's no way that those guys would ever be able to defeat the Socialists, ACORN, Communists, Nazis, NPR, and other enemies of America that currently control the democrat party.
 
2013-10-14 02:35:13 PM  

Somacandra: Lando Lincoln: The only question remaining is how much collateral damage they're going to do to the rational world in the process.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 516x92]

HA HA THE CONSTITUTION PARTY SHALL FINALLY ARISE TO STRIKE THE IRON FIST!


Aka TeaParty Hipsters
 
2013-10-14 02:35:30 PM  
Can't the GOP let the rest of the country go on with her business while they sort things out?  Why do they feel compelled to impose thier own disfunction on the rest of the nation?
 
2013-10-14 02:40:21 PM  

nmrsnr: Pocket Ninja: Never, and I do mean never, doubt the ability of the Democratic Party to snatch complete and utter defeat from the jaws of victory.

Yeah, but as long as the Republicans have untreated abortion tourette's it sort of balances out.


the Republicans are just going to double down on defeat
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-14 02:41:27 PM  
Dear Republicans:

fark you and all the thoroughbreds in your paddock.

You lie down with the animals you're going to come up with flees.

My you dog die that tub you attempted to drown the government in.
 
2013-10-14 02:41:30 PM  
Ever since the Civil War, one political party has exploded every 36 years or so.  2008 was the Republicans' turn to explode.

Cycle #1: Civil War, Reconstruction and the Gilded Age (1860 - 1896)
This period of time was dominated by the Republican Party; Presidents Lincoln, Johnson, Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur and Harrison, who held the Presidency for 28 years, were all Republicans.
The Republican Party emerged from the ashes of the Whig Party.  It was most famously opposed to slavery, but generally supported industrialization, high tariffs and protectionism, and an interventionist foreign policy.

The only blip in Republican dominance was Democrat Grover Cleveland, who served two non-consecutive terms as President.  He came into power largely because of a fight against corruption, but he also opposed high tariffs and supported the gold standard over the silver standard.

Cycle #2: The Progressive Era (1896 - 1932)
This period of time was again dominated by the Republican Party, but the party bore little resemblance to its previous incarnation.  McKinley was voted in on a platform of keeping the gold standard (borrowing a page from Cleveland) and despite his support of high tariffs, he was ardently pro-business.

The era didn't really get into full swing until McKinley's assassination and the assumption of Teddy Roosevelt to the Presidency; he brought about significant business regulation.  His chosen successor, William H. Taft, was promised to be another progressive, but wasn't up to the task; he was defeated by a Democratic progressive, Woodrow Wilson.  Wilson, in turn, was succeeded by Harding, Coolidge and Hoover; although they supported workers' rights like previous progressives, they also supported serious deregulation that led to the Great Depression.

Cycle #3: The New Deal (1932 - 1968)
Franklin Roosevelt fought the Great Depression with a serious of social programs, many of which remain today.  He served for an unprecedented four terms and was followed by fellow Democrat Harry Truman.  Truman, unfortunately, overreached with his so-called "Fair Deal" and made several mistakes in the Korean War; he wasn't renominated by his own party and was followed by Eisenhower, a Republican who nonetheless was a fan of the New Deal.

Eisenhower was followed by Kennedy and Johnson.  The latter, unfortunately, was bogged down by Vietnam; in 1968, he wasn't renominated by his party and the Democratic party faced defeat.

Cycle #4: Goldwater's Coattails (1968 - 2008)
Barry Goldwater was defeated in a landslide in 1964, but some of his policies started taking root.  Richard Nixon was, by today's standards, pretty liberal; but he also led the reaction against the excesses of LBJ's great society and the successes of the Democrats in the Civil Rights Movement.

Following his resignation, Gerald Ford took over; his defeat in 1976 is the one hiccup here, as Jimmy Carter was elected in no small part due to Watergate and Ford's pardoning of Nixon.  1980 returned things to "normalcy" with the enormous electoral success of Ronald Reagan, who formed an unholy alliance of Goldwater's anti-government agenda and the religious right.  His successor didn't turn out to be so popular, and he was defeated by a moderate Democrat (who has been humorously described as the closest thing to a moderate Republican since Eisenhower).

Al Gore wasn't able to carry Clinton's momentum, however; we were treated to a Republican President, who like Cleveland, Hoover and LBJ (the last presidents of their respective eras) went down in flames.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-14 02:42:02 PM  
*fleas *fleas *fleas
 
2013-10-14 02:42:10 PM  

Virulency: nmrsnr: Pocket Ninja: Never, and I do mean never, doubt the ability of the Democratic Party to snatch complete and utter defeat from the jaws of victory.

Yeah, but as long as the Republicans have untreated abortion tourette's it sort of balances out.

the Republicans are just going to double down on defeat


Because when crazy people lose their shiat, they always have to involve other people.
 
2013-10-14 02:43:09 PM  
The solution is obvious:  Keep moving to the right.  Purge members who aren't 'pure'.  Move to a smaller tent.

This one will be just the right size for your Perfect Unified Republican Establishment (PURE);

upload.wikimedia.org
 
IP
2013-10-14 02:44:37 PM  
funnycatwallpapers.com
 
2013-10-14 02:44:40 PM  

media.cagle.com

 
2013-10-14 02:46:59 PM  

abb3w: Virginia is now a very purple state, having come within 2% of an even split in 2012 in the presidential race; and the Northern Virginia economy is largely driven by federal workers, who are particularly impacted by the current shutdown, which is widely perceived as being the fault of Republican conservatives.


The Virignia Gov race has typically been a pretty good barometer of the political climate during mid terms for about the last 20 years.  George Allen won it in 1994 riding the wave election of Newt Gingrich's Contract With America.   Tim Kaine won it in 2006 when Democrats and Pelosi retook the House.   McDonnell won it in 2010 after the Tea Party took control of the house.   If McAuliffe wins this by double digits, it's not a good sign for the GOP in 2014.
 
2013-10-14 02:47:00 PM  
It was amusing to hear McCain fussing on the radio this morning, warning democrats not to rub it in because then they would throw an even bugger temper tantrum
 
2013-10-14 02:47:03 PM  
....expanding that big tent exponentially.
 
2013-10-14 02:47:59 PM  
"The environment for Republicans is toxic."

Those poor Republicans. Like so many amoebae in a mild bleach solution, it's their environment that's toxic. Why isn't the environment fairer and more balanced?
 
2013-10-14 02:50:00 PM  

Somacandra: Lando Lincoln: The only question remaining is how much collateral damage they're going to do to the rational world in the process.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 516x92]

HA HA THE CONSTITUTION PARTY SHALL FINALLY ARISE TO STRIKE THE IRON FIST!


Wasn't the Constitution party, the Tea Party before the Tea Party?
 
2013-10-14 02:50:27 PM  
Republicans faulted Cuccinelli's campaign for focusing too much on attacking McAuliffe's business dealings and not presenting a compelling theme around which voters can coalesce.

You don't say.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-14 02:50:34 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: "The environment for Republicans is toxic."

Those poor Republicans. Like so many amoebae in a mild bleach solution, it's their environment that's toxic. Why isn't the environment fairer and more balanced?


I will feel so bad for them as I drive home over all the roads that are turning back to dirt paths.
 
2013-10-14 02:51:05 PM  
Nothing is more important to the Republicans (or the Democrats, for that matter) than thier own self-preservation, and look how badly they're screwing that up.  Why on earth would anyone trust them with more important responsibilities?  They've become the Captain Peter Wrongway Peachfuzz of political parties.
 
2013-10-14 02:55:17 PM  
...dying, dead, racist, a joke, destroying itself, doomed, finished and evil, according to Google.

And interestingly, Google automatically adds the "ic" to 'democrat party'.
 
2013-10-14 02:55:38 PM  
We've been hearing republicans talking about rebuilding their brand since 2008.

When are they going to start?
 
2013-10-14 02:55:59 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: "The environment for Republicans is toxic."

Those poor Republicans. Like so many amoebae in a mild bleach solution, it's their environment that's toxic. Why isn't the environment fairer and more balanced?


Since when has the GOP cared about the environment turning toxic?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-14 02:57:13 PM  

phaseolus: ...dying, dead, racist, a joke, destroying itself, doomed, finished and evil, according to Google.

And interestingly, Google automatically adds the "ic" to 'democrat party'.


"Democrat party" is one of those phrases that now alerts me to not take the writer seriously.  It's a great indication that he/she listens to the echo chamber way too much.
 
2013-10-14 02:58:05 PM  
i293.photobucket.com


i293.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-14 02:59:47 PM  

GameSprocket: Fuggin Bizzy: "The environment for Republicans is toxic."

Those poor Republicans. Like so many amoebae in a mild bleach solution, it's their environment that's toxic. Why isn't the environment fairer and more balanced?

Since when has the GOP cared about the environment turning toxic?


Touché .

Now that it's affecting them, apparently.
 
2013-10-14 03:03:54 PM  
Muta: Can't the GOP let the rest of the country go on with her business while they sort things out?  Why do they feel compelled to impose their own disfunction on the rest of the nation?

Because they can't sleep as long as there's a dollar they haven't stolen on behalf of their owners, a scrap of political power they haven't usurped, and a poor person they haven't shiat on.
 
2013-10-14 03:07:04 PM  

Corvus: Somacandra: Lando Lincoln: The only question remaining is how much collateral damage they're going to do to the rational world in the process.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 516x92]

HA HA THE CONSTITUTION PARTY SHALL FINALLY ARISE TO STRIKE THE IRON FIST!

Wasn't the Constitution party, the Tea Party before the Tea Party?


Yes, but the mistake the Constitution Party made was that they actually wrote out their platform before they got elected to office, so everyone could see how insane they were before they voted for them.
 
2013-10-14 03:08:23 PM  

elchip: Cycle #2: The Progressive Era (1896 - 1932)
This period of time was again dominated by the Republican Party, but the party bore little resemblance to its previous incarnation.  McKinley was voted in on a platform of keeping the gold standard (borrowing a page from Cleveland) and despite his support of high tariffs, he was ardently pro-business.

The era didn't really get into full swing until McKinley's assassination and the assumption of Teddy Roosevelt to the Presidency; he brought about significant business regulation.  His chosen successor, William H. Taft, was promised to be another progressive, but wasn't up to the task; he was defeated by a Democratic progressive, Woodrow Wilson.  Wilson, in turn, was succeeded by Harding, Coolidge and Hoover; although they supported workers' rights like previous progressives, they also supported serious deregulation that led to the Great Depression.


What? You'd consider the 20s a Progressive era? For who?
 
2013-10-14 03:09:09 PM  

phaseolus: And interestingly, Google automatically adds the "ic" to 'democrat party'.


Thank you, Google, for trying to make people more literate.
 
2013-10-14 03:13:13 PM  

DemonEater: We've been hearing republicans talking about rebuilding their brand since 2008.

When are they going to start?


They did and ended up with teabaggers.
 
2013-10-14 03:19:35 PM  

Lando Lincoln: phaseolus: And interestingly, Google automatically adds the "ic" to 'democrat party'.

Thank you, Google, for trying to make people more literate.


Google knows just the right kind of changes to make on a search term. It's quite enjoyable.
 
2013-10-14 03:21:22 PM  

Triple Oak: Google knows just the right kind of changes to make on a search term. It's quite enjoyable.


If only it autocorrected "Benghazi" to "mental health services".
 
2013-10-14 03:25:21 PM  

Nadie_AZ: elchip: Cycle #2: The Progressive Era (1896 - 1932)
This period of time was again dominated by the Republican Party, but the party bore little resemblance to its previous incarnation.  McKinley was voted in on a platform of keeping the gold standard (borrowing a page from Cleveland) and despite his support of high tariffs, he was ardently pro-business.

The era didn't really get into full swing until McKinley's assassination and the assumption of Teddy Roosevelt to the Presidency; he brought about significant business regulation.  His chosen successor, William H. Taft, was promised to be another progressive, but wasn't up to the task; he was defeated by a Democratic progressive, Woodrow Wilson.  Wilson, in turn, was succeeded by Harding, Coolidge and Hoover; although they supported workers' rights like previous progressives, they also supported serious deregulation that led to the Great Depression.

What? You'd consider the 20s a Progressive era? For who?


Women.
 
2013-10-14 03:26:04 PM  

Nadie_AZ: elchip: Cycle #2: The Progressive Era (1896 - 1932)
This period of time was again dominated by the Republican Party, but the party bore little resemblance to its previous incarnation.  McKinley was voted in on a platform of keeping the gold standard (borrowing a page from Cleveland) and despite his support of high tariffs, he was ardently pro-business.

The era didn't really get into full swing until McKinley's assassination and the assumption of Teddy Roosevelt to the Presidency; he brought about significant business regulation.  His chosen successor, William H. Taft, was promised to be another progressive, but wasn't up to the task; he was defeated by a Democratic progressive, Woodrow Wilson.  Wilson, in turn, was succeeded by Harding, Coolidge and Hoover; although they supported workers' rights like previous progressives, they also supported serious deregulation that led to the Great Depression.

What? You'd consider the 20s a Progressive era? For who?


Women, mainly.
 
2013-10-14 03:28:36 PM  

Muta: Can't the GOP let the rest of the country go on with her business while they sort things out?  Why do they feel compelled to impose thier own disfunction on the rest of the nation?


It's like a couple arguing loudly and viciously in public in front of their kids.


/like my parents.
//still married 55+ years
 
2013-10-14 03:28:51 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: DemonEater: We've been hearing republicans talking about rebuilding their brand since 2008.

When are they going to start?

They did and ended up with teabaggers.


We talking 'new coke' or opels as saturns?
 
2013-10-14 03:29:34 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Nadie_AZ: elchip: Cycle #2: The Progressive Era (1896 - 1932)
This period of time was again dominated by the Republican Party, but the party bore little resemblance to its previous incarnation.  McKinley was voted in on a platform of keeping the gold standard (borrowing a page from Cleveland) and despite his support of high tariffs, he was ardently pro-business.

The era didn't really get into full swing until McKinley's assassination and the assumption of Teddy Roosevelt to the Presidency; he brought about significant business regulation.  His chosen successor, William H. Taft, was promised to be another progressive, but wasn't up to the task; he was defeated by a Democratic progressive, Woodrow Wilson.  Wilson, in turn, was succeeded by Harding, Coolidge and Hoover; although they supported workers' rights like previous progressives, they also supported serious deregulation that led to the Great Depression.

What? You'd consider the 20s a Progressive era? For who?

Women, mainly.


Films from the 20s were really something as well before the Hays Code was slapped in place.
 
2013-10-14 03:31:23 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: DemonEater: We've been hearing republicans talking about rebuilding their brand since 2008.

When are they going to start?

They did and ended up with teabaggers.



So they ARE more inclusive!
 
2013-10-14 03:34:02 PM  
Yup.  Republicans are defeated.  Meanwhile, you won't find a single liberal who thinks Taxbongo can win in 2016.  But Republicans are defeated.  Got it.
 
2013-10-14 03:37:35 PM  
The Republican party has done a lot of crazy things in the past few years, but they've really gone off the deep end this time. They are the party of self-fulfilling prophecies. IE: Government is bad, we're in danger of collapse. So lets bring it all down so we're right! Or something. >.> Anyone who can take them seriously anymore is delusional. Which is a shame, because the Democrats need an opposition party with new ideas that are bullshiat/racist/nonsense etc. Which seems to be the only ideas that the Republican party has anymore. :/

Kinda sad that this was the party of Teddy Roosevelt, Lincoln, Dwight Eisenhower, etc. Oh well, please implode faster Republicans before you really get the collapse of America that you believe in.
 
2013-10-14 03:42:03 PM  

miss diminutive: So it's basically what would happen if Greenpeace and PETA took control of the Democratic party?


yes - but with less music and more hotdogs on sticks
 
2013-10-14 03:42:58 PM  
I don't see how any sane and intelligent human being can call themselves a Republican at this point.

I'm not saying your party can't be repaired, but you sure as hell shouldn't stamp your approval on it with a vote.
 
2013-10-14 03:45:49 PM  

bbfreak: Democrats need an opposition party


People say that, but if you look at American history the only time our government really functions is when one party has almost absolute hegemony.  Think the GOP from the end of the Civil War until the Great Depression or the Democrats from the Great Depression until the mid nineties.  Of course one party rule has its own problems, but under our retarded constitution that represents geography better than actual political beliefs, it's about as good as it gets.  So let the GOP die.  Maybe in 30 of 40 years they'll get their shiat together.
 
2013-10-14 03:46:13 PM  

DemonEater: Triple Oak: Google knows just the right kind of changes to make on a search term. It's quite enjoyable.

If only it autocorrected "Benghazi" to "mental health services".


That's not very nice at all.
 
2013-10-14 03:50:04 PM  

dionysusaur: HotWingConspiracy: DemonEater: We've been hearing republicans talking about rebuilding their brand since 2008.

When are they going to start?

They did and ended up with teabaggers.

We talking 'new coke' or opels as saturns?


Hmm. A New Coke gambit might be a brilliant path here.


"We're back to the way we were! Never mind that that sucks too, we're not the new suck anymore!"
 
2013-10-14 04:01:55 PM  

Ben Ghazi: DemonEater: Triple Oak: Google knows just the right kind of changes to make on a search term. It's quite enjoyable.

If only it autocorrected "Benghazi" to "mental health services".

That's not very nice at all.


Would any compound word ending in -gate be a preferable change?
 
2013-10-14 04:02:04 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Yup.  Republicans are defeated.  Meanwhile, you won't find a single liberal who thinks Taxbongo can win in 2016.  But Republicans are defeated.  Got it.


You really have been oin rare form lately.

Have you added fiber to your diet?
 
2013-10-14 04:06:50 PM  

Nadie_AZ: elchip: Cycle #2: The Progressive Era (1896 - 1932)
This period of time was again dominated by the Republican Party, but the party bore little resemblance to its previous incarnation.  McKinley was voted in on a platform of keeping the gold standard (borrowing a page from Cleveland) and despite his support of high tariffs, he was ardently pro-business.

The era didn't really get into full swing until McKinley's assassination and the assumption of Teddy Roosevelt to the Presidency; he brought about significant business regulation.  His chosen successor, William H. Taft, was promised to be another progressive, but wasn't up to the task; he was defeated by a Democratic progressive, Woodrow Wilson.  Wilson, in turn, was succeeded by Harding, Coolidge and Hoover; although they supported workers' rights like previous progressives, they also supported serious deregulation that led to the Great Depression.

What? You'd consider the 20s a Progressive era? For who?


I don't think it was "progressive" by the modern definition, but progressive in the sense of a change in response to the previous gilded age policies.  It was an era of expansion of the electorate (women and to a lesser extent, minorities and immigrants) and workforce protections (child labor laws, etc).  Republican primacy was indeed undone by Harding, Coolidge and Hoover. The teapot dome scandal, which happened during Harding's administration, followed by the crash and great depression, led to irreparable damage to the Republican Party, which wouldn't see it's fortunes change significantly until Vietnam.
 
2013-10-14 04:06:56 PM  
Well could someone tell them to implode a little faster, before they drag us over the farking cliff?
 
2013-10-14 04:15:16 PM  

DORMAMU: You really have been oin rare form lately.

Have you added fiber to your diet?


I'm going through my '07 Kobe phase.  I've learned how to pace myself, when to let my teammates take the shots, and when to take over.  And as long as I keep taking my HGH, I'll keep competing for years to come.
 
2013-10-14 04:19:30 PM  

Corvus: Wasn't the Constitution party, the Tea Party before the Tea Party?


The Tea Party isn't a political party; it's a social movement.

The Constitution Party is a political party, though. They're essentially conservatives who don't think the Republicans are loony enough about religion, but it's a very small and politically irrelevant party.
 
2013-10-14 04:19:42 PM  

Mike_LowELL: DORMAMU: You really have been oin rare form lately.

Have you added fiber to your diet?

I'm going through my '07 Kobe phase.  I've learned how to pace myself, when to let my teammates take the shots, and when to take over.  And as long as I keep taking my HGH, I'll keep competing for years to come.


*golf clap*
 
2013-10-14 04:28:11 PM  

Lernaeus: Corvus: Wasn't the Constitution party, the Tea Party before the Tea Party?

The Tea Party isn't a political party; it's a social movement.


[quizzicaldog.jpg]
 
2013-10-14 04:34:59 PM  
The country can no longer sustain the Republican Party the way it currently is, and if the Teatards finally farking off and forming their own party allows the GOP to regain some semblance of sanity, the country will be better for it in the end.
 
2013-10-14 04:36:00 PM  

Lernaeus: Corvus: Wasn't the Constitution party, the Tea Party before the Tea Party?

The Tea Party isn't a political party; it's a social bowel movement.


FTFY.
 
2013-10-14 04:36:27 PM  
These elections are the easiest in the world to predict.

Look at the calendar.  Is it an odd-numbered year?  Yes?  Then the Republican will win.

If it's an even-numbered year, check to see if it's evenly divisible by 4.  If not, then the Republican will win.

If it is divisible by 4, then the Democrat has a chance.
 
2013-10-14 04:43:36 PM  

RyansPrivates: Nadie_AZ: elchip: Cycle #2: The Progressive Era (1896 - 1932)
This period of time was again dominated by the Republican Party, but the party bore little resemblance to its previous incarnation.  McKinley was voted in on a platform of keeping the gold standard (borrowing a page from Cleveland) and despite his support of high tariffs, he was ardently pro-business.

The era didn't really get into full swing until McKinley's assassination and the assumption of Teddy Roosevelt to the Presidency; he brought about significant business regulation.  His chosen successor, William H. Taft, was promised to be another progressive, but wasn't up to the task; he was defeated by a Democratic progressive, Woodrow Wilson.  Wilson, in turn, was succeeded by Harding, Coolidge and Hoover; although they supported workers' rights like previous progressives, they also supported serious deregulation that led to the Great Depression.

What? You'd consider the 20s a Progressive era? For who?

I don't think it was "progressive" by the modern definition, but progressive in the sense of a change in response to the previous gilded age policies.  It was an era of expansion of the electorate (women and to a lesser extent, minorities and immigrants) and workforce protections (child labor laws, etc).  Republican primacy was indeed undone by Harding, Coolidge and Hoover. The teapot dome scandal, which happened during Harding's administration, followed by the crash and great depression, led to irreparable damage to the Republican Party, which wouldn't see it's fortunes change significantly until Vietnam.


Wilson segregated the government during the teens. Jim Crow laws were strongly enforced during the teens and 20s. Chinese immigrants and children were denied citizenship. Native Americans were sent to Indian Schools to 'make them white'. Unions hadn't won enough concessions yet. The rich got richer and the whole thing was setting up for the 1929 crash. Oh and don't forget prohibition.

Women's right to vote was the culmination of decades of work and by using Prohibition to help get the final piece in place. Progressive? The 20s? I'm not seeing it. Nor the mid to late teens, either.
 
2013-10-14 05:05:11 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Wilson segregated the government during the teens. Jim Crow laws were strongly enforced during the teens and 20s. Chinese immigrants and children were denied citizenship. Native Americans were sent to Indian Schools to 'make them white'. Unions hadn't won enough concessions yet. The rich got richer and the whole thing was setting up for the 1929 crash. Oh and don't forget prohibition.

Women's right to vote was the culmination of decades of work and by using Prohibition to help get the final piece in place. Progressive? The 20s? I'm not seeing it. Nor the mid to late teens, either.


Look up "The Progressive Era" in your favorite search engine.  Most historians agree it ran from the 1890s to 1932.  This includes the 20s.  It was progressive in contrast to the previous era, most notably.
 
2013-10-14 05:06:14 PM  
Not sure if there is a thread about it, but the ridiculous behavior from the GOP continues
 
2013-10-14 05:30:00 PM  
Don't worry, eventually they'll come to the obvious soltuion: more ideological purity combined with tax cuts for the rich.
 
2013-10-14 05:49:25 PM  

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Not sure if there is a thread about it, but the ridiculous behavior from the GOP continues


There was several days ago. The title was so full of buzz-words and general crap, I didn't even click the link.
I found out about this Friday, submitted a link, and found it was already approved. I don't think it was even appeared on the Politics tab, just the main page.

But this story really needs to get out.

/[tinfoilhat] mod trying to bury the story?[/tinfoilhat]
//did Sifil and Oly ever come out on DVD?
//to teh Googles!
 
2013-10-14 05:58:42 PM  

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Not sure if there is a thread about it, but the ridiculous behavior from the GOP continues


Thread from Sunday of just the video. It is still open. I can't find the earlier one that I tried to post.

/One guy on Amazon has one new copy of Sifl & Oly season 3 for a mere $180 dollars.
//used copy only $87
 
2013-10-14 06:00:05 PM  
America is suffering huge gurgling cramps in its abdomen, and needs to let loose from its bowels the putrid, fetid, watery exploding diarrhea that is the Republican Party.


once things are cleaned out ( which could take hours/days on the toilet) , then our elected representatives can go back to governing this Nation.


America's anus (the Republican South) will be raw, pink, and sore for a few days,  but she'll be much better and healthier for it in the long run.
 
2013-10-14 06:00:20 PM  
They are not self-destructing quickly enough to benefit my country. Nor quietly enough to benefit me.
 
2013-10-14 07:01:22 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Never, and I do mean never, doubt the ability of the Democratic Party to snatch complete and utter defeat from the jaws of victory.


This...
 
2013-10-14 07:04:46 PM  

Witty_Retort: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Not sure if there is a thread about it, but the ridiculous behavior from the GOP continues

There was several days ago. The title was so full of buzz-words and general crap, I didn't even click the link.
I found out about this Friday, submitted a link, and found it was already approved. I don't think it was even appeared on the Politics tab, just the main page.

But this story really needs to get out.

/[tinfoilhat] mod trying to bury the story?[/tinfoilhat]
//did Sifil and Oly ever come out on DVD?
//to teh Googles!


waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
 
2013-10-14 07:17:17 PM  

Witty_Retort: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Not sure if there is a thread about it, but the ridiculous behavior from the GOP continues

Thread from Sunday of just the video. It is still open. I can't find the earlier one that I tried to post.

/One guy on Amazon has one new copy of Sifl & Oly season 3 for a mere $180 dollars.
//used copy only $87


A lot of old episodes are on Youtube as well as the new ones from this year
 
2013-10-14 07:21:22 PM  

Linux_Yes: America is suffering huge gurgling cramps in its abdomen, and needs to let loose from its bowels the putrid, fetid, watery exploding diarrhea that is the Republican Party.


once things are cleaned out ( which could take hours/days on the toilet) , then our elected representatives can go back to governing this Nation.


America's anus (the Republican South) will be raw, pink, and sore for a few days,  but she'll be much better and healthier for it in the long run.


I recommend drinking a shotglass of hot sauce every hour until you get results.
 
2013-10-14 07:51:22 PM  
In the 1970s Republicans discovered the basic old black-white conflict was a leaky bucket, and the old-line Christian fundies discovered many moral precepts didn't hold the same validity they might have held in a pre-mass media age.

So then, like a perverted Brady Bunch, the Republicans and the Christian fundies got together.

Now folks are sick of their 30-year shtick. The end.
 
2013-10-14 08:23:35 PM  
Just got home from a trip to the store and, congrats, Republicans.  You have made this mild-mannered, 55-year-old librarian flip someone off for the first time in her life - the driver of a car flying a gadsden flag..  Since she was in the neighborhood, I assume she also lives in the house that also flies a gadsden flag and has a car with World Nut Daily bumper stickers.  Sometimes I hate my neighbors.
 
2013-10-14 08:50:10 PM  

Coco LaFemme: The country can no longer sustain the Republican Party the way it currently is, and if the Teatards finally farking off and forming their own party allows the GOP to regain some semblance of sanity, the country will be better for it in the end.


Actually, I'd deeply appreciate it if they (the Tea Party, specifically) were never allowed to hold power over so much as the appliances they own ever again.  Their own toasters and refrigerators should just go Maximum Overdrive on them.
 
2013-10-14 09:37:23 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Yup.  Republicans are defeated.  Meanwhile, you won't find a single liberal who thinks Taxbongo can win in 2016.  But Republicans are defeated.  Got it.


I voted for him the last two times, but I can guarantee you I won't be doing it again.
 
2013-10-14 10:25:52 PM  

El Dudereno: Mike_LowELL: Yup.  Republicans are defeated.  Meanwhile, you won't find a single liberal who thinks Taxbongo can win in 2016.  But Republicans are defeated.  Got it.

I voted for him the last two times, but I can guarantee you I won't be doing it again.


Well, with that attitude, of course he won't be re-elected. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
2013-10-14 10:37:40 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Never, and I do mean never, doubt the ability of the Democratic Party to snatch complete and utter defeat from the jaws of victory.


So much this.
 
2013-10-15 12:10:51 AM  

El Dudereno: Mike_LowELL: Yup.  Republicans are defeated.  Meanwhile, you won't find a single liberal who thinks Taxbongo can win in 2016.  But Republicans are defeated.  Got it.

I voted for him the last two times, but I can guarantee you I won't be doing it again.


Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me, can't get fooled again.
 
2013-10-15 12:22:23 AM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Muta: Can't the GOP let the rest of the country go on with her business while they sort things out?  Why do they feel compelled to impose their own disfunction on the rest of the nation?

Because they can't sleep as long as there's a dollar they haven't stolen on behalf of their owners, a scrap of political power they haven't usurped, and a poor person they haven't shiat on.


This cannot be repeated enough. Come on, fellow libs, let's make sure this is given as an answer every time someone asks why this is going on:

Because conservatives can't rest as long as there is one dollar they haven't stolen, political power they haven't usurped, and a working-class person they haven't shiat on
 
2013-10-15 01:12:29 AM  

Linux_Yes: America is suffering huge gurgling cramps in its abdomen, and needs to let loose from its bowels the putrid, fetid, watery exploding diarrhea that is the Republican Party.


cinemasentries.com

/as hot as that metaphor was colorful
 
2013-10-15 01:40:00 AM  
...and the googles say:

i.imgur.com
 
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