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(CNN)   China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, Germany and Singapore: Raise the debt ceiling NOW, a default by the United States would have a profound effect on our economies. This GOP scheme is going to tank the dollar as the world reserve currency   (money.cnn.com) divider line 521
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2013-10-14 08:28:20 PM

sethen320: HindiDiscoMonster: ReverendJynxed: Why isn't anyone pissed off at SCOTUS for allowing a clearly unconstitutional law to be put into effect? It's a forced tax to subsidize the private insurance industry. We are being forced to buy something we don't want. Like being forced to buy kale on every burger just to pull it off because it supports the farking kale farmers.

They would have been better off eliminating private insurance altogether and gone straight tax and healthcare. That would have been a bit easier to swallow over this faux social healthcare.


Checks and balances right?

Make sure you stop driving and surrender your driver's license. After all, you don't want to be forced to buy Auto Insurance, right?

You can choose not to drive.

Not arguing one way or the other, just saying bad analogy.


you can also choose not to buy health insurance still.
 
2013-10-14 08:31:55 PM

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: Problem is "we the people" are too stupid, fat, and lazy to do anything about these idiots in Congress. We just keep voting for them and watching our sports or reality TV or playing our computer games.

/crap, I got Twinkie all over my keyboard
//I'll have the dog lick it off


for the love of God, please tell me that was NOT a euphamism.
 
2013-10-14 08:38:14 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: o5iiawah: Some 'Splainin' To Do: The founding fathers were sure sloppy in not putting in any sort of checks or balances that would allow something like that to happen.

The founding fathers would probably set fire to congress and biach-slap everyone in the 10x10mi square on the potomac for letting the national debt escalate to $17TN Furthermore, they'd also be surprised at how high of a percentage of the population is immediately affected by this shutdown. In their day, Congress convened and then let out and by in large, people lived their lives governed by the rules of their states and counties.

So your arguments have official been reduced to speculating (or rather asserting) that the founding fathers would have had a given set of opinions about the current situation.

Okay, thread's done, everyone. o5iiawah can read the minds of the dead.


Wait... you didn't KNOW this already? I mean you have been here a long time... you should have known this man...
 
2013-10-14 08:40:08 PM

pdrake: PunGent: MugzyBrown: Failing to lift the debt ceiling does not mean we default unless the president forces us to.

Yes, because he keeps the national checkbook in his desk in the White House...

yep, it has kitties on it.

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that is seriously irresponsible... you just exposed the account and routing number for the US Treasury!
 
2013-10-14 08:54:56 PM

PunGent: The_Original_Roxtar: PunGent: I recommend you re-take Civics 101. "Refusing to do your job", ie, pass a budget, isn't the same as "being conquered"...it's just refusing to do your job. And the House Republicans are even being PAID for not doing any work.

Hmm, they sound like welfare queens...

ummm, the house did pass several budgets... the senate and potus refused to sign off on them.
who isn't doing their job?

Yeah...writing something in crayon and saying "pass it or else, plus no girls allowed" isn't really a passing grade amongst us adults.  "Passing" legislation you KNOW isn't going anywhere is childish...they might as well pass laws outlawing the moon.


are you somehow ignorant about the way the legislature works? a bill needs a certain percentage of the vote to pass in the house... and it has, several times.
saying "the house isn't passing a budget! it's their fault!" is flatly and demonstrably incorrect. the house isn't passing the budget YOU WANT them to pass.
 
2013-10-14 09:19:11 PM

flondrix: but they mimic all the positions of the religious right,


Is that me, or are you just pulling stuff out of your butt to justify your position?
 
2013-10-14 10:15:47 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: sethen320: HindiDiscoMonster: ReverendJynxed: Why isn't anyone pissed off at SCOTUS for allowing a clearly unconstitutional law to be put into effect? It's a forced tax to subsidize the private insurance industry. We are being forced to buy something we don't want. Like being forced to buy kale on every burger just to pull it off because it supports the farking kale farmers.

They would have been better off eliminating private insurance altogether and gone straight tax and healthcare. That would have been a bit easier to swallow over this faux social healthcare.


Checks and balances right?

Make sure you stop driving and surrender your driver's license. After all, you don't want to be forced to buy Auto Insurance, right?

You can choose not to drive.

Not arguing one way or the other, just saying bad analogy.

you can also choose not to buy health insurance still.


Without penalty?

Serious question.
 
2013-10-14 10:20:36 PM
this is the end result of a george w. bush presidency.
preceded by a clinton presidency.
preceded by a bush presidency.
preceded by a potato.
 
2013-10-14 11:11:47 PM
The_Original_Roxtar:
are you somehow ignorant about the way the legislature works? a bill needs a certain percentage of the vote to pass in the house... and it has, several times.
saying "the house isn't passing a budget! it's their fault!" is flatly and demonstrably incorrect. the house isn't passing the budget YOU WANT them to pass.


The House is passing a budget that they know will not pass the Senate and that Obama has already said he will veto. Conventional wisdom is that a "clean" spending bill would pass if Boehner would allow it to come to a vote.
 
2013-10-14 11:31:03 PM

HeadLever: flondrix: but they mimic all the positions of the religious right,

Is that me,


I dunno, are you a libertarian I work with or a libertarian I used to work for?
 
2013-10-14 11:51:19 PM

flondrix: I dunno, are you a libertarian I work with or a libertarian I used to work for?


probably not.  if this argument is based on your ancedotal experiences with a coworker, it is really irrelevant to my point.

So basically you were just pulling information out of your butt to justify your argument that had nothing to do with my point
 
2013-10-15 12:16:50 AM
China to US: You don't laise the debt ceiring, you don't get cheap Chlistmas plesents!!!
Japan to US: No laise debt ceiring, no PS4!!!
Saudi Arabia to US: We already have enough of your money, but OPEC is switching to Renminbi per barrel.
Germany to US: Remembah za Führer?
Singapore to US: meh
 
2013-10-15 01:18:47 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: I'm no economist, but isn't our dollar value based and backed up by the gold in fort knox? Or am i mistaken.  Anyone?


Hasn't been backed by gold for a long time (at least 40 years). We went from gold to silver... to now what is called "fiat money"

/full history here.
 
2013-10-15 03:38:22 AM

Slaxl: Misconduc: Sorry after being a democrat since Clinton - I side with the GOP over Obamacare. Honestly I could give a crap about how bad Obama has been as president,  but Obamacare really is something to fight against - forcing working people to pay for medical they cannot afford or need.

It's no longer about obamacare. It's your economic future. You cannot possibly think destroying your economy and angering the entire world is worth getting rid of Obamacare, can you?


Jesus Farking Christ.  I side with you on this, but don't you comprehend that the Democrats are just as guilty of this brinksmanship as the Republicans are (I know you, Slaxl, didn't specifically blame the R's, though I figure you would - this was to everyone)?  This isn't something that snuck up on anyone in politics.  Just the same as there was a bit of a budget crisis last year, everyone has known this would happen for months now. 

If it can't pass Congress, then clearly you don't have enough of a majority behind you to get this shiat passed.  That's how it's supposed to work.

I'd rather have nationalized healthcare, but clearly we aren't ready for it.  Blame the Republicans on this one, get another Democrat elected next time and more D's in Congress, and maybe it'll work a few years from now.
 
2013-10-15 03:48:10 AM

Director_Mr: If you are blaming one side any more than the other you aren't paying attention.


But dont step on their mojo.  Blaming the other side is as much passtime as rooting for your favorite teams.  Politicans have degenerated to being players on the team you root for.  No matter how wrong Jay Cutler is, Bear fans will defend him against Packer fans.

/ I want a Nancy Pelosi rookie card.  What is that, 1948 Bowman?
 
2013-10-15 08:49:40 AM

The_Original_Roxtar: PunGent: The_Original_Roxtar: PunGent: I recommend you re-take Civics 101. "Refusing to do your job", ie, pass a budget, isn't the same as "being conquered"...it's just refusing to do your job. And the House Republicans are even being PAID for not doing any work.

Hmm, they sound like welfare queens...

ummm, the house did pass several budgets... the senate and potus refused to sign off on them.
who isn't doing their job?

Yeah...writing something in crayon and saying "pass it or else, plus no girls allowed" isn't really a passing grade amongst us adults.  "Passing" legislation you KNOW isn't going anywhere is childish...they might as well pass laws outlawing the moon.

are you somehow ignorant about the way the legislature works? a bill needs a certain percentage of the vote to pass in the house... and it has, several times.
saying "the house isn't passing a budget! it's their fault!" is flatly and demonstrably incorrect. the house isn't passing the budget YOU WANT them to pass.


Rofl...you don't know me, and you don't know what I "want".  I'm actually OPPOSED to Obamacare (and Romneycare here in Mass).  I think the Supreme Court was wrong, and it's flat-out un-Constitutional, even if it will do all the things supporters say it will.

But that doesn't change the fact that the House Republicans are "passing" a budget they KNOW can't make it out of the Senate.

It's like passing a law outlawing terrorism...which is already illegal.  At best, it's grandstanding.  At worst, it's plain irresponsible, because ignorant folks will actually think they're doing something about the problem.

We still live in a republic, last I checked:  Republicans want FULL control of the process, they better win the Senate and the Presidency.

Of course, we got gigantic spending the last time that happened, so I won't be voting for them.
You do what you like, though.

The Republican's REAL problem here is they can't decide if this is a good thing or not.
Half of them are like Michelle Bachman; proud of shutting down the government.

The other half are too cowardly to take responsibility for their actions, and are blaming Reid and Obama.

Nothing will change until they make up their minds, one way or the other.  Can't have it both ways...that's childish.
 
2013-10-15 09:34:35 AM
Talk about buried under a pile of bullshiat...
Oh, SNAP, this post!

Not a single cogent commentary above or below me.

Obamacare:  Illegal under states laws because it doesn't allow for a limit of liability or a bond - like car insurance.
Debt ceiling: If we're in debt and we haven't paid it, we've already defaulted on debt.
Political parties: illegal.
"Obamacare is a tax":   If I pay you to slap me, is that a tax?  No.  No representation by elected officials.

The senate is supposed to represent the STATES wishes, IE THE farkING GOVERNMENTS OF THE STATES not some political party's ideas.  The Senate is forfeit.
 
2013-10-15 11:20:08 AM

prjindigo: Talk about buried under a pile of bullshiat...
Oh, SNAP, this post!
Not a single cogent commentary above or below me.
Obamacare:  Illegal under states laws because it doesn't allow for a limit of liability or a bond - like car insurance.
Debt ceiling: If we're in debt and we haven't paid it, we've already defaulted on debt.
Political parties: illegal.
"Obamacare is a tax":   If I pay you to slap me, is that a tax?  No.  No representation by elected officials.
The senate is supposed to represent the STATES wishes, IE THE farkING GOVERNMENTS OF THE STATES not some political party's ideas.  The Senate is forfeit.


1864 called and left a message for you:
You're an incoherent dumbass.
Planning on taking up arms against the United States?
Expect to be a well-ventilated dumbass.
 
2013-10-15 12:04:23 PM

ReverendJynxed: snocone: jst3p: DubtodaIll: jst3p: DubtodaIll: jst3p: DubtodaIll: The 2012 U.S. GDP was 15.68 trillion.  Total Direct Federal Revenue was 5.12 trillion.  Total Requested Federal Budget was 2.6 trillion.  Current federal debt is 16.7 trillion with exclusions, 62 trillion without exclusions.  And this isn't something we need to fix now?

U.S. refineries are expanding their diesel-production capacity, not so much for truckers in the U.S., but for drivers in places such as Mexico City and Santiago, Chile.
Already running at their highest levels in six years, U.S. refineries are finding strong demand for diesel fuel, used widely in cars outside of the United States, and other distillates, like jet fuel.
"All these companies are expanding their export terminals-Valero, Shell, Marathon Petroleum, all of them," said Fadel Gheit, senior energy analyst at Oppenheimer. "Any companies with refining assets on the Gulf Coast are expanding their export terminals. ...The profitability is not that clear, but the trend is very clear."
The U.S. became a net exporter of petroleum products just two years ago and is now the largest exporter in the world.

Somehow, I have the feeling that we will do OKY DOKEY.
Actually the world oil price/production is tied to The Dollar.
Since oil is kinda important, one should wonder,,,

$50 a gallon. Be ready. The Dollar is going the way of the Peso.


Adios Amigo, it was good to know you when 20c bought a gallon.
I remember when gas flew over $1/gallon. None of the pumps were built to charge it, so they just doubled the shown price for a year or so.
That would be right around the S&L Bankjob.
Not at all a lot different than the past 5 years.
 
2013-10-15 12:06:35 PM
Here, I don't think you met my elephant, The U.S. became a net exporter of petroleum products just two years ago and is now the largest exporter in the world.
 
2013-10-15 12:08:20 PM
Anybody at all remember just a few years ago when "Peak Oil" and "Energy Independence" was the battle cry?
 
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