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2013-10-15 01:47:00 AM  

LavenderWolf: Go ask men at random; "Is rape always wrong?" and you'll get an overwhelming answer of "Yes, rape is always wrong." I'm tired of hearing that we're "teaching our boys to rape". We're not. You're being extremely sexist by saying that.


Oh really, you think?

In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances.

A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl.

In a survey of male college students 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it.


One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.

In another survey of college male 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse.

15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.


SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?

Where does an 11 year old get the idea that rape is okay to recoup the cost of your date?

How can 84% of rapists not understand that what they did is rape, unless their culture is teaching them that it's not?

How can any number of boys, let alone 76% of them think rape is sometimes okay, unless that's what their society has taught them?
 
2013-10-15 02:10:24 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: LavenderWolf: Go ask men at random; "Is rape always wrong?" and you'll get an overwhelming answer of "Yes, rape is always wrong." I'm tired of hearing that we're "teaching our boys to rape". We're not. You're being extremely sexist by saying that.

Oh really, you think?

In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances.

A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl.

In a survey of male college students 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it.

One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.

In another survey of college male 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse.

15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.

SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?

Where does an 11 year old get the idea that rape is okay to recoup the cost of your date?

How can 84% of rapists not understand that what they did is rape, unless their culture is teaching them that it's not?

How can any number of boys, let alone 76% of them think rape is sometimes okay, unless that's what their society has taught them?


I really want everything you posted to be bullshait, as the father of a teen girl, but I am afraid that's it's spot on.
/shudder
//education is important
///Girls AND Boys
 
2013-10-15 02:43:01 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Any time it is brought up that we need to do better in our upbringing of boys, misogynists like you jump up to demand that boys already are being taught not to rape. That's why rapes never happen, and why this town didn't run a family off and burn their house down, right?


The My Little Pony Killer: You have to have a criminal in the first place in order for the town to shelter them over FOOTBALL


I hate to be this guy but with these two quotes here you are pretty much saying that you expect there to be a complete eradication of the crime of sex assault altogether, and anything less than "no more assault ever" is proof that we are failing at large as a society and everyone should feel bad because we aren't doing enough collectively. Can you remember the last time we were able to stop an entire crime altogether nation-wide? That's just not realistic.

I'd like it to happen, but I'm not going to put my kids' safety in the hands of people I don't know. I'll be damned if I put my kids' safety in the hands of people who would actively  do them harm by expecting someone who commits rape to have a conscience and just not do that. I'm going to arm my kids with the tools and knowledge they need to stay safe.

Noone is saying rape never happens. We know all too well that it happens. It has always, and probably always will happen, just like any crime. That's why the push to educate people on how to stay safe. I'll be a lot more confident teaching my kid to navigate this kind of danger than blindly trusting everyone else's kid to do the right thing.

About the response you are getting from others in here... Men get mad when you imply that boys all need to be taught how not to be a rapist (especially when you explicitly say that potential victims should NOT be taught anything). The idea seems silly to a lot of guys that we should actively teach boys not to rape. I don't agree with that attitude. I'm all for teaching things like how to treat people with respect and talking about the grey areas that could get them in trouble and everything. Of course we need to teach this. But expecting every single person to get on board is just straight-up naive. There are always people who will want to take advantage of others. It's good to teach kids how to deal with predatory types. Things like if you're lost, don't wait for someone to come and help you. Go and find a woman for help. Or, if an adult touches you or makes you feel uncomfortable, say "stop or I'll tell", (then tell on them anyway--it's ok to lie to avoid getting hurt.)

I don't see how following up with this kind af advice into adolescence re: drinking, dating, etc. could possibly be seen as a bad thing.
 
2013-10-15 03:33:33 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?


Like you have to ask.

/The Internet is for....
 
2013-10-15 07:14:46 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?


I'm not sure you have to teach them to.  Overactive hormones coupled with crappy peers and a self-centered lack of compassion or empathy engendered by the absence of responsible parenting is probably enough.  It's perhaps a bit easier to feel okay about sexual coercion when you're driven mostly by the emotional desire to satisfy your own urges and are lacking those inconvenient things like concern for others.


if_i_really_have_to: How can 84% of rapists not understand that what they did is rape, unless their culture is teaching them that it's not?


Because rape is terrible and nobody wants to believe that they are a terrible person.
I'm not so sure that it is a lack of understanding so much as a lack of willingness to acknowledge the depths of ones own capacity for depravity.
 
2013-10-15 08:25:25 AM  

Gawdzila: if_i_really_have_to: SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?

I'm not sure you have to teach them to.  Overactive hormones coupled with crappy peers and a self-centered lack of compassion or empathy engendered by the absence of responsible parenting is probably enough.  It's perhaps a bit easier to feel okay about sexual coercion when you're driven mostly by the emotional desire to satisfy your own urges and are lacking those inconvenient things like concern for others.


if_i_really_have_to: How can 84% of rapists not understand that what they did is rape, unless their culture is teaching them that it's not?

Because rape is terrible and nobody wants to believe that they are a terrible person.
I'm not so sure that it is a lack of understanding so much as a lack of willingness to acknowledge the depths of ones own capacity for depravity.



..and then we ignore the issue entirely, push them through good schools, elect them as representatives of the populace, and let them lead us with an ill-calibrated moral compass. Hooray us.

//Looking at the criminal past a majority of our political leaders have, and dying a little inside.
 
2013-10-15 08:53:49 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: LavenderWolf: Go ask men at random; "Is rape always wrong?" and you'll get an overwhelming answer of "Yes, rape is always wrong." I'm tired of hearing that we're "teaching our boys to rape". We're not. You're being extremely sexist by saying that.

Oh really, you think?

In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances.

A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl.

In a survey of male college students 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it.

One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.

In another survey of college male 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse.

15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.

SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?

Where does an 11 year old get the idea that rape is okay to recoup the cost of your date?

How can 84% of rapists not understand that what they did is rape, unless their culture is teaching them that it's not?

How can any number of boys, let alone 76% of them think rape is sometimes okay, unless that's what their society has taught them?



Interesting  numbers (source?), if true, they seem to indicate that a lot of girls (56% in high school)  also think forced sex is OK so how is this just a issue about boys?  You have over half of the sisterhood thinking it is OK to have forced sex with other members of the sisterhood (I am sure they do no include themselves personally in that but is OK to happen to others).

So if your numbers are true the problem goes beyond simply teaching boys not to rape.  Plus if we really have to "teach" people not to rape, murder, loot, buy more home than they can afford etc   you might as well just stick a fork in us-we are done.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-10-15 09:01:16 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: LavenderWolf: Go ask men at random; "Is rape always wrong?" and you'll get an overwhelming answer of "Yes, rape is always wrong." I'm tired of hearing that we're "teaching our boys to rape". We're not. You're being extremely sexist by saying that.

Oh really, you think?

In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances.

A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl.

In a survey of male college students 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it.

One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.

In another survey of college male 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse.

15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.

SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?

Where does an 11 year old get the idea that rape is okay to recoup the cost of your date?

How can 84% of rapists not understand that what they did is rape, unless their culture is teaching them that it's not?

How can any number of boys, let alone 76% of them think rape is sometimes okay, unless that's what their society has taught them?


If we take, as a given, acceptance of this study you need to not pick and choose the stats you rehash:
- A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found:(ref 5)
· 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl;
· 31% of the boys and 32% of the girls said it was acceptable for a man to rape a woman with past sexual experience;
· 87% of boys and 79% of girls said sexual assault was acceptable if the man and the woman were married;
· 65% of the boys and 47% of the girls said it was acceptable for a boy to rape a girl if they had been dating for more than six months.


Please let that sink in. What the hell are some parents NOT teaching their children? Boy AND girls! Those stats are abhorrent.
Why would ANY girl think the way indicated in these stats? I would go over the stat sources to verify full accuracy, but all our gov't is shuttered and the usual sources of authority I reference in matters of crime are "Closed because.....infighting, sorry, KTHNXBYE"
 
2013-10-15 09:02:51 AM  
The thing is, the fact that so many people are outraged about the nefarious goings-on of a small town in Northwest Missouri (where there is  nothingof notoriety) kinda shows we might not be as horrible of a culture/country as we think we are. That's not to say there's no work to be done... but this isn't a "rape culture".
 
2013-10-15 09:24:23 AM  
I see the Barnetts are as shiatty a family down in MO as they are up here in northern Ohio
 
2013-10-15 09:34:03 AM  
SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?


Quite obviously it doesn't need to be taught. it's intrinsic knowledge.
 
2013-10-15 09:56:41 AM  

doubled99: SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?


Quite obviously it doesn't need to be taught. it's intrinsic knowledge.




i.qkme.me
 
2013-10-15 10:03:08 AM  

vudukungfu: JuniorII: But he will do no jail time.....

I'm not liking him for prison.
He could end up like Walter White's money, though.


I HAVEN'T FINISHED LAST SEASON YOU RAT BASTARD!!!!111111
 
2013-10-15 10:04:38 AM  

gja: Please let that sink in. What the hell are some parents NOT teaching their children? Boy AND girls! Those stats are abhorrent.
Why would ANY girl think the way indicated in these stats? I would go over the stat sources to verify full accuracy, but all our gov't is shuttered and the usual sources of authority I reference in matters of crime are "Closed because.....infighting, sorry, KTHNXBYE"


All the data for those stats is coming from sources in the mid 90's. I'd be interested to see what the data looks like now but I'm willing to bet that it will still look rather alarming. I'm 27 and I myself was never taught anything about rape (neither by my parents nor my schooling - I was 13 when I left Washington education and came to Missouri). It wasn't a topic discussed when I was either location, sure they covered safe sex and all that but the only bad thing with sex is STDs. Even though I was never taught I still feel that it is wrong, I'm not sure where that opinion comes from though, possibly the way it was reported in the media?

The study source is now aged ~30-40+. They have already pushed off their not rape opinions (or lack thereof since it isn't an important topic) onto a younger generation.
 
2013-10-15 10:11:06 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Savage Belief: Mid_mo_mad_man: I said it earlier and I will say it again. Fark gets ready to lynch way to quick before all the facts are known. Just like the Zimmerman case people don't know the facts completely and rushing to judgement. Someone of you all scare me more then these alleged rapists.

I thought the facts were pretty well covered in TFA about Matthew Barnett being a rapist and his friend Jordan Zech the child pornographer filming it with his iPhone . Perhaps you should read it again to refresh your memory?

He's not been convicted of rape. So be careful calling him a rapist. That being said all we have so far is her side of the story.


Along with her side of the story we have the facts that the reporter uncovered, plus transcripts of confessions the boys gave up when they were arrested, we have the Sheriff bragging about how fast he uncovered the evidence... should I go on?  (Now all of a sudden that same Sheriff says the victims are not cooperating?  Ok, I'm willing to listen to his explanation as to why, but until then we can conclude that the victims and their families have been bullied to the point that they can't cooperate because the Sheriff is failing at his job to Serve and Protect.  Simple as that.)

There are more issues here than just the rapes - which are well documented with physical evidence.  There is child pornography, child endangerment, political favors, evidencial coverup... should I go on?  If the families of these boys had any morals at all they would come forward and explain exactly why the charges were dismissed instead of just repeating that "the girls are skanks". That's how things are handled on the playground, not real life.

And please explain for this forum how you're related to the accused.  Otherwise you're from Maryville, and I can understand how you'd want to 'defend your turf'.  Either way you come off as a very sick individual for defending the accused, despite the overwhelming evidence that has been presented in this situation as to why these clowns should be brought to justice.  (no offense to clowns)
 
2013-10-15 10:12:13 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: The girls acted incredibly stupid that night also. Nothing good can come out of meeting a older boy at 1 am. Also why was a 14 yr old dating a senior?


So rape?
 
2013-10-15 10:29:21 AM  

Fafai: be careful with the extreme stuff because you can't unsee that kind horror


when alzheimer's strikes us all, our last lingering memory will be that damned cup
 
2013-10-15 10:31:07 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: where are they learning it?


i learned it by watching you, dad
 
2013-10-15 10:36:17 AM  
I wish there were a Stupid button next to Smart and Funny.

/(I'd click it for all my comments, at least.)
 
2013-10-15 11:30:26 AM  

nucrash: Because I happen to be involved indirectly with this situation and probably shouldn't say anything, aw fark it, here we go.

1. Know the father of the video taping child personally, does not own a restaurant.  Works at a local factory as a supervisor of IS and a local grocery store. night stockman  Apparently getting an amateur child pornographer of of a sentence is expensive business. which causes you to go bankrupt and take a second job.  Also there is the matter that his other son was involved with drugs and had to be moved around in order to keep competing at sports because of *trouble*

2. Many of the people involved are in the local Mason's lodge.  There was a conspiracy and the Sheriff and Prosecutor are both members.  There was even some change in leadership of some of the things that transpired.

3. Matt Barnett, - The Rapist (tm) was also pulled over at that time for a DUI(a month or so).  He has been rumored to be involved in dealing drugs as well, but his grand daddy made some calls and Football continues.

4. Various people in the town have acted as if, these teens were just being teens.

5.  The parents in this matter were never brought up on charges for distribution to minors.  Apparently the alcohol magically appeared and the kids distributed liquor to each other.  This also happened in their house where no one was paying attention to the children below as they got drunk and rapey.

6. The iPhone with said video apparently lost the video.  This was after 2 months analysis when the normal waiting period for those kind of crimes is 3 to six months.  Also read up on wear leveling of flash drives.  Files do not disappear from iPhones unless they have been filled up and destroyed.  The way this video was said to have been distributed around school says that said video is still out there and exists.  So perhaps someone might be able to find it.

7. As someone else said, "I can't apologize enough for my town."  Not everyone from that town is a piece of shia ...


You sound like the only sensible human being in that town.  If there are any good ones left you should recruit them to help you bring down the corruption.  But if there is no one left that you can trust... get out while you can.

/been in that situation before and got out.
//I would love to be a fly there when the mediastorm hits town today.
 
2013-10-15 11:34:22 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: LavenderWolf: Go ask men at random; "Is rape always wrong?" and you'll get an overwhelming answer of "Yes, rape is always wrong." I'm tired of hearing that we're "teaching our boys to rape". We're not. You're being extremely sexist by saying that.

Oh really, you think?

In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances.

A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl.

In a survey of male college students 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it.

One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.

In another survey of college male 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse.

15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.

SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?

Where does an 11 year old get the idea that rape is okay to recoup the cost of your date?

How can 84% of rapists not understand that what they did is rape, unless their culture is teaching them that it's not?

How can any number of boys, let alone 76% of them think rape is sometimes okay, unless that's what their society has taught them?


Are you the least bit interested in why  such high numbers of women think they should be raped, under certain circumstances?
 
2013-10-15 01:12:58 PM  

Fano: if_i_really_have_to: LavenderWolf: Go ask men at random; "Is rape always wrong?" and you'll get an overwhelming answer of "Yes, rape is always wrong." I'm tired of hearing that we're "teaching our boys to rape". We're not. You're being extremely sexist by saying that.

Oh really, you think?

In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances.

A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl.

In a survey of male college students 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it.

One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.

In another survey of college male 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse.

15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.

SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?

Where does an 11 year old get the idea that rape is okay to recoup the cost of your date?

How can 84% of rapists not understand that what they did is rape, unless their culture is teaching them that it's not?

How can any number of boys, let alone 76% of them think rape is sometimes okay, unless that's what their society has taught them?

Are you the least bit interested in why  such high numbers of women think they should be raped, under certain circumstances?


56% of the women surveyed were Christians?

/in other words "they had it comin'"
 
2013-10-15 01:27:19 PM  

Fano: if_i_really_have_to: LavenderWolf: Go ask men at random; "Is rape always wrong?" and you'll get an overwhelming answer of "Yes, rape is always wrong." I'm tired of hearing that we're "teaching our boys to rape". We're not. You're being extremely sexist by saying that.

Oh really, you think?

In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances.

A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl.

In a survey of male college students 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it.

One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.

In another survey of college male 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse.

15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.

SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?

Where does an 11 year old get the idea that rape is okay to recoup the cost of your date?

How can 84% of rapists not understand that what they did is rape, unless their culture is teaching them that it's not?

How can any number of boys, let alone 76% of them think rape is sometimes okay, unless that's what their society has taught them?

Are you the least bit interested in why  such high numbers of women think they should be raped, under certain circumstances?


Maybe because our culture objectifies women so damn much that they dont feel confident and entitled to control of their bodies? And somehow men few very entitled to control women's bodies. Just look at our legislators! I dont know who's to blame, but parents could help. Of course if youre a woman from some bizarro religion where your mother thinks she exists to please your your father, good luck! That religious culture cant possibly be the source of the belief that husbands cant rape their wives. Also, I'm sure such families wouldnt object to public education telling their daughters that they have a right to enjoy sex and make relationship demands of men.

I've known educated women who got raped and didnt report it because they thought they did something wrong (and either deserved it or thought it would accomplish nothing to go to the police). It's sad.
 
2013-10-15 03:43:15 PM  

mooseyfate: Fano: if_i_really_have_to: LavenderWolf: Go ask men at random; "Is rape always wrong?" and you'll get an overwhelming answer of "Yes, rape is always wrong." I'm tired of hearing that we're "teaching our boys to rape". We're not. You're being extremely sexist by saying that.

Oh really, you think?

In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances.

A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl.

In a survey of male college students 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it.

One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.

In another survey of college male 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse.

15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.

SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?

Where does an 11 year old get the idea that rape is okay to recoup the cost of your date?

How can 84% of rapists not understand that what they did is rape, unless their culture is teaching them that it's not?

How can any number of boys, let alone 76% of them think rape is sometimes okay, unless that's what their society has taught them?

Are you the least bit interested in why  such high numbers of women think they should be raped, under certain circumstances?

56% of the women surveyed were Christians?

/in other words "they had it comin'"


We all have it comin
 
2013-10-15 04:05:34 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: People like you scare me more then this Matthew gentlemen. You read one article and get your lynching rope. The DA didn't think he could get a conviction. End of story.


You's probably trollin', but... the issue is not that the DA didn't think they could get a conviction because of the circumstances, or because of the law, or because of the evidence, or even because of the age of the victim... they didn't think they could get a conviction because of the power and influence the rapists families had in that area, and the stupidity of the locals. All that happened to this family, including the torching of their house, confirms this.

That's what sickens people about all this.
 
2013-10-15 04:36:42 PM  

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you forgot...

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I'd really love to know your rational behind that post, which included the following information "Jordan Zech is a pedophile
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2013-10-15 05:25:08 PM  

if_i_really_have_to: LavenderWolf: Go ask men at random; "Is rape always wrong?" and you'll get an overwhelming answer of "Yes, rape is always wrong." I'm tired of hearing that we're "teaching our boys to rape". We're not. You're being extremely sexist by saying that.

Oh really, you think?

In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances.

A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl.

In a survey of male college students 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it.

One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.

In another survey of college male 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse.

15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.

SO, if America isn't teaching its boys to rape, where are they learning it?

Where does an 11 year old get the idea that rape is okay to recoup the cost of your date?

How can 84% of rapists not understand that what they did is rape, unless their culture is teaching them that it's not?

How can any number of boys, let alone 76% of them think rape is sometimes okay, unless that's what their society has taught them?


what in the fark am I reading.

I officially give up on society.
 
2013-10-15 05:32:11 PM  
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2013-10-15 06:47:48 PM  
You want to read some sick replies, go to the Slate article and scroll down and click on the comments button:
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Look at Namecalling's posts. $20 bucks says that it's Matthew Barnett's dad posting. OMG.
 
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*******  oh dear ******

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out of order, didn't I?  I am so sorry.  I should have listed their names in order.  No offense to  Texas Gabe:, but I should have listed

        Jordan Zech is a pedophile
        Jordan Zech, pedophile
        Jordan Zech Maryville pedophile
        Jordan Zech is a child pornographer
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 first, THEN listed

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        Matthew Barnett is a child pornographer
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/maybe I'll get it right next time.

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