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2013-10-14 07:16:48 AM
www.ihatethemedia.com

With recent inflation they probably should skip the $2 and just up the fare to $3
 
2013-10-14 07:16:55 AM
If you want to do business in the U.S. then you should be required to accept all legal U.S. Currency.
 
2013-10-14 07:20:47 AM
The government once had high hopes for the bill. A 1976 research paper published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, Va., noted that the $2 bill "can save the Government, and therefore all taxpayers, money and increase the convenience of cash transactions."

And that might have happened if you dropped the 1$ bill, and released the 1$ coin and 2$ bill simultaneously.
/but ya didn't
 
2013-10-14 07:25:05 AM
Protip:  $2 bills are great for tipping strippers.
 
2013-10-14 07:27:52 AM
I wish I had taken a picture of the "cow looking at a new gate' look the kid at In N Out had when he looked ad the Sacajawea $1 coins I handed him.  I suggested he call the manager who, after confirming their validity,   looked at us as if we were the 'problem.
 
2013-10-14 07:31:14 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

Top left: "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private."

Metro users who also use $2 bills should just plonk that bill down and go sit down.
 
2013-10-14 07:31:53 AM
I have a $2 sitting on my nightstand. Don't know what to do with it. It really is true that a lot of places won't accept it as part of payment.
 
2013-10-14 07:34:23 AM
Wait. Is the Metro in St Louis run by the city? If not, I retract my earlier statement regarding legal tender.
 
2013-10-14 07:39:43 AM

eldritch2k4: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x328]

Top left: "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private."

Metro users who also use $2 bills should just plonk that bill down and go sit down.


::sigh::

Yet another person who doesn't understand what that means. If you paid for the bus fare as you got OFF the bus, you'd be right- you would be in debt to them, and thus the $2 bill would be legal tender to pay off that debt. But, if you have to pay at the beginning of your ride, then you do not have a "debt" to pay off yet. It is perfectly legal for companies to limit the types of payments they take (which is why you can't pay with big bills ($50, $100) at some places).
 
2013-10-14 07:39:45 AM

eldritch2k4: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x328]

Top left: "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private."

Metro users who also use $2 bills should just plonk that bill down and go sit down.


Not exactly.
 
2013-10-14 07:40:30 AM

Doc Daneeka: I have a $2 sitting on my nightstand. Don't know what to do with it. It really is true that a lot of places won't accept it as part of payment.


Everywhere will take it except vending machines, which is what the bus uses
 
2013-10-14 07:41:23 AM

eldritch2k4: Top left: "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private."

Metro users who also use $2 bills should just plonk that bill down and go sit down.


That only applies to debts enforced by court order.
 
2013-10-14 07:42:33 AM

eldritch2k4: Top left: "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private."

Metro users who also use $2 bills should just plonk that bill down and go sit down.


And what debt do they have to the bus company before they enter the bus?
 
2013-10-14 07:43:34 AM
This will change.

While they can specify coinage (coin is not legal tender by law), $2 bills are.  It is illegal for them not to accept it as payment for a $2 fare.
 
2013-10-14 07:46:06 AM

GDubDub: This will change.

While they can specify coinage (coin is not legal tender by law), $2 bills are.  It is illegal for them not to accept it as payment for a $2 fare.


Again, no its not. They can simply refuse service, therefore no debt.
 
2013-10-14 07:47:47 AM
I've paid a couple of speeding tickets with $2 bills before.
 
2013-10-14 07:48:52 AM

GDubDub: This will change.

While they can specify coinage (coin is not legal tender by law), $2 bills are.  It is illegal for them not to accept it as payment for a $2 fare.


heypete: eldritch2k4: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x328]

Top left: "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private."

Metro users who also use $2 bills should just plonk that bill down and go sit down.

Not exactly.


I stand corrected..

[themoreyouknow.jpg]
 
2013-10-14 07:53:29 AM
fun fact : if you use cash in a Metro vending machine to buy tickets, you'll get your change in dollar coins. So Metro should be all for currency that's difficult to get places to accept.
 
2013-10-14 07:53:29 AM
The manufacturer said that would require costly customized software. No other transit agency had requested it before. So Metro decided to skip on the $2 bills, Beck said.

Looks like the manufacturer needs to be paid in $2 bills and nothing else. That'd tickle their legal tenders.
 
2013-10-14 07:56:37 AM
Two recycle buisnesses pay you in only $2 bills in my town.
 
2013-10-14 07:58:54 AM
1. Get onto a bus with a "pay when you leave" policy.
2. Attempt to pay with a $2 bill.
3. Get refused.
4. Get sued by bus company for failure to pay debt.
5. Get ordered to pay debt by court.
6. Pay debt with $2 bill
7 .....
8. Profit.
 
2013-10-14 08:01:49 AM

OrangeSnapper: 1. Get onto a bus with a "pay when you leave" policy.


Do these even exist?
 
2013-10-14 08:03:34 AM
You're dating yourself Subby.

So am I
 
2013-10-14 08:04:02 AM

Raider_dad: Two recycle buisnesses pay you in only $2 bills in my town.


As has been established already in TFA and this thread, $2 bills are great for strippers. Have you tried asking whether any of their family members are strippers? I'll bet there's some self-interest hidden away there, I'm guessing it's someone's daughter.
 
2013-10-14 08:06:28 AM

Relatively Obscure: OrangeSnapper: 1. Get onto a bus with a "pay when you leave" policy.

Do these even exist?


Ours are like that. Technically they are pay at the furthwst point from downtown, except after 7pm when they switch to pay when you get on.

If people hop off without paying, the driver just remembers their face and doesn't let them get on next time.
 
2013-10-14 08:06:48 AM

StrikitRich: [www.ihatethemedia.com image 276x121]

With recent inflation they probably should skip the $2 and just up the fare to $3


My grandfather used to own a coffee mug whose design was a $3 bill with Nixon on it.

/all my grandparents are dead now - THANKS FARTBAMA
 
2013-10-14 08:10:49 AM
if i won a lottery i'd buy some crappy quality $500 bills and spend those for the shiates and giggles since really crappy ones go for only 25% above face value. i'd like to go into a place that has a sign that says "no 50's or 100's" and use it. yeah i'm a douche.
 
2013-10-14 08:17:36 AM
haven't seen a good fnorgby reference in a while.
 
2013-10-14 08:19:59 AM
I'm more irritated that they won't accept pennies now. They aren't rare like $2 bills, half-dollars, and dollar coins.

Metro bus riders deposited more than 1.9 million of them in the last fiscal year.

If the riders are using them that much, deal with it! What are they going to do if someone only has enough cash for the fare with pennies included? Say, "tough shiat, go pound bricks"? Actually, that's probably exactly what they'll do.

Granted, pennies should have been discontinued by the Treasury a long time ago. They cost more than 1 cent to make, so they (i.e., we taxpayers) lose money on each one. Nonetheless, they're still around, and Metro doesn't have to make them, just accept them. Again, deal with it!
 
2013-10-14 08:27:03 AM
>believing there was ever a good fnorgby reference. I shiddily diddly doo dah.

>>kidding, umad?
 
2013-10-14 08:28:07 AM

gerbilpox: I'm more irritated that they won't accept pennies now. They aren't rare like $2 bills, half-dollars, and dollar coins.

Metro bus riders deposited more than 1.9 million of them in the last fiscal year.

If the riders are using them that much, deal with it! What are they going to do if someone only has enough cash for the fare with pennies included? Say, "tough shiat, go pound bricks"? Actually, that's probably exactly what they'll do.

Granted, pennies should have been discontinued by the Treasury a long time ago. They cost more than 1 cent to make, so they (i.e., we taxpayers) lose money on each one. Nonetheless, they're still around, and Metro doesn't have to make them, just accept them. Again, deal with it!


Yeah I'm sure everyone on the bus is thrilled when someone decides to count out 200 pennies.
 
2013-10-14 08:29:17 AM

Wodheila: I wish I had taken a picture of the "cow looking at a new gate' look the kid at In N Out had when he looked ad the Sacajawea $1 coins I handed him.  I suggested he call the manager who, after confirming their validity,   looked at us as if we were the 'problem.


I was given some $1 Susan B anthony coins in change as quarters at a McDonalds drive thru once. I returned them and explained what they were to the kid.
 
2013-10-14 08:29:36 AM
Luckily my retail place of employment donates a lot of money to charity, so all $2 bills, golden dollars, etc we accept as tender go into the donation envelope in exchange of the conventional currency people donate.
 
2013-10-14 08:33:36 AM

Lost Thought 00: Relatively Obscure: OrangeSnapper: 1. Get onto a bus with a "pay when you leave" policy.

Do these even exist?

Ours are like that. Technically they are pay at the furthwst point from downtown, except after 7pm when they switch to pay when you get on.

If people hop off without paying, the driver just remembers their face and doesn't let them get on next time.


Well I'll be damned.
 
2013-10-14 08:37:12 AM
Starlost...sorry to burst your bubble but there are no $500 bills or $1000 bills available for the ordinary citizen to utilize.  The Federal Reserve holds them for its own use in transferring funds between its banks.  The government withdrew them from general use as an anti-drug measure so that it would be more difficult for the cartels to transfer large sums of cash.
 
2013-10-14 08:37:37 AM

itsaidwhat: Wodheila: I wish I had taken a picture of the "cow looking at a new gate' look the kid at In N Out had when he looked ad the Sacajawea $1 coins I handed him.  I suggested he call the manager who, after confirming their validity,   looked at us as if we were the 'problem.

I was given some $1 Susan B anthony coins in change as quarters at a McDonalds drive thru once. I returned them and explained what they were to the kid.


To be clear, I said "these are dollars, not quarters". I didn't attempt to explain the women's suffrage movement and/or Susan B Anthony.
 
2013-10-14 08:54:38 AM
I think I will go to the bank today and get some $2 bills and $1 coin. Then off to the local fast food restaurant to have some fun at lunchtime.
 
2013-10-14 08:57:25 AM
I had one of those taco bell $2 bill call the cop things happen to me around 1993-4 or so in New Hope MN.

Back then it was enough to buy 3 taco's and they were just about the only place open at that time of night. I was there with several friends who all knew I had a penchant for paying for things with $2 bills because I thought they were neat. Needless to say the place was actually fairly busy for being after midnight.

Manager smugly refused my $2 bill and demanded I wait for the cops while refusing to give me my food. Cop shows up and looks at the $2 bill and says "it's a two dollar bill, you called me out here for a two dollar bill". Manager asks if he's going to arrest me. Cops explains he's not going to arrest me for me using legal currency and leaves in a huff.

Manager gave me my $2 bill back and refused to give me my food. I called corporate and made a big stink about the stupid manager that refused to let me buy my food with a $2 bill and they mailed me a coupon for some free food. Never saw that stupid manager at that Taco Bell again. You would think after the cop told the money was real she would have apologized and given me my food.
 
2013-10-14 08:58:14 AM

gerbilpox: Granted, pennies should have been discontinued by the Treasury a long time ago. They cost more than 1 cent to make, so they (i.e., we taxpayers) lose money on each one


Um, it's not like they get used once and thrown away.

I really don't understand this 'get rid of the penny' nonsense. The cent is the basic unit for coinage. A nickel is '5 cents'. A dime is '10 cents'. A quarter is a quarter dollar, or... 25 cents. If you get rid of the penny, there will be no coin for the basic unit. That's like measuring distances in miles, but the mile itself not existing. Or measuring capacity in gallons,, but not having any gallon jugs.
 
2013-10-14 09:09:35 AM

fredklein: gerbilpox: Granted, pennies should have been discontinued by the Treasury a long time ago. They cost more than 1 cent to make, so they (i.e., we taxpayers) lose money on each one

Um, it's not like they get used once and thrown away.

I really don't understand this 'get rid of the penny' nonsense. The cent is the basic unit for coinage. A nickel is '5 cents'. A dime is '10 cents'. A quarter is a quarter dollar, or... 25 cents. If you get rid of the penny, there will be no coin for the basic unit. That's like measuring distances in miles, but the mile itself not existing. Or measuring capacity in gallons,, but not having any gallon jugs.


It's more like measuring in yards without the yardstick existing, which is exactly how we measure in miles (I don't think there's a milestick, except in some farkers' dreams).

Nice thing about the penny - we have a nice large-scale experiment going on to the North of us.  Let's see how the Canadians do it.  Maybe getting rid of* the penny will work.

*the penny is still legal tender in Canada, but no longer produced, in the hope that retailers will round to the nearest nickel
 
2013-10-14 09:11:24 AM
everytime one of these stories comes up I bet  Steve Wozniak has a good laugh
 
2013-10-14 09:18:26 AM

Wodheila: I wish I had taken a picture of the "cow looking at a new gate' look the kid at In N Out had when he looked ad the Sacajawea $1 coins I handed him.  I suggested he call the manager who, after confirming their validity,   looked at us as if we were the 'problem.


I was watching a friend's kids and took them to Burger King for lunch.  Total came to $11 and change so I handed the kid 6 $2 bills (I always carry some--they're cheap entertainment).  Kid looks at the cash and turns to me, bewildered.  "But, I can't count by 2's".  Told him to just fold them in half and count by ones.  That brightened him up.

/Favorite quote from TFA:  "I don't even know where you get them".  Ummm, the bank, maybe?  Moron.
 
2013-10-14 09:23:06 AM
itsaidwhat: "I didn't attempt to explain the women's suffrage movement and/or Susan B Anthony."

LOL!!
 
2013-10-14 09:23:52 AM

fredklein: gerbilpox: Granted, pennies should have been discontinued by the Treasury a long time ago. They cost more than 1 cent to make, so they (i.e., we taxpayers) lose money on each one

Um, it's not like they get used once and thrown away.

I really don't understand this 'get rid of the penny' nonsense. The cent is the basic unit for coinage. A nickel is '5 cents'. A dime is '10 cents'. A quarter is a quarter dollar, or... 25 cents. If you get rid of the penny, there will be no coin for the basic unit. That's like measuring distances in miles, but the mile itself not existing. Or measuring capacity in gallons,, but not having any gallon jugs.


...or measuring oil in barrels, despite not actually putting it into barrels.
 
2013-10-14 09:35:39 AM

fredklein: gerbilpox: Granted, pennies should have been discontinued by the Treasury a long time ago. They cost more than 1 cent to make, so they (i.e., we taxpayers) lose money on each one

Um, it's not like they get used once and thrown away.

I really don't understand this 'get rid of the penny' nonsense. The cent is the basic unit for coinage. A nickel is '5 cents'. A dime is '10 cents'. A quarter is a quarter dollar, or... 25 cents. If you get rid of the penny, there will be no coin for the basic unit. That's like measuring distances in miles, but the mile itself not existing. Or measuring capacity in gallons,, but not having any gallon jugs.


Yet when Canada eliminated their penny, there was no noticeable effect on their economy. Same when Britain removed theirs. All that happen was the government stopped wasting money producing coins no one needed.
 
2013-10-14 09:39:13 AM

Aussie_As: Raider_dad: Two recycle buisnesses pay you in only $2 bills in my town.

As has been established already in TFA and this thread, $2 bills are great for strippers. Have you tried asking whether any of their family members are strippers? I'll bet there's some self-interest hidden away there, I'm guessing it's someone's daughter.


Sorry , strippers aren't allowed in Mayo Clinic City.
 
2013-10-14 09:54:04 AM

Wodheila: I wish I had taken a picture of the "cow looking at a new gate' look the kid at In N Out had when he looked ad the Sacajawea $1 coins I handed him.  I suggested he call the manager who, after confirming their validity,   looked at us as if we were the 'problem.


I tried to spend some of those in Ketchikan, Alaska but the shopkeeper refused to take them.  "We don't take Canadian money."
 
2013-10-14 10:22:02 AM
This is ridiculous...  I assume (hope) that they are still required to accept legal us tender that also happens to be exact change...  Just because the machine doesn't take it doesn't mean the man behind the steering wheel can't.
 
2013-10-14 10:29:50 AM

fredklein: I really don't understand this 'get rid of the penny' nonsense. The cent is the basic unit for coinage. A nickel is '5 cents'. A dime is '10 cents'. A quarter is a quarter dollar, or... 25 cents. If you get rid of the penny, there will be no coin for the basic unit.


All of those are pretty much just described as their portion of a dollar.  No need for a penny to tell us that, whether or not we should be keeping them.
 
2013-10-14 10:33:53 AM

buntz: You're dating yourself Subby.

So am I


Heh. I was in the Fnornby(sp?) thread. That was awesome.
 
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