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2013-10-14 08:38:16 AM
Why sad? Banksy isn't exactly a household name, people who are really attracted to his work (young people) are not the kid of folks who are going to drop a lot of money on art, and the streets of New York aren't exactly a prominent arthouse.

Who is going to believe a random street vendor when he says he's got art by a world-class artist? He can't really sell them as such. If you went to an art house and did some advertising first you'd get a much better take.

But then, at the end of the day it's not about money, is it? It's about making some dumb point.
 
2013-10-14 08:38:56 AM
Sad?  That sounds about right.  It's not like his work is even up to the "Velvet Elvis" level of talent.
 
2013-10-14 08:40:34 AM
Not sure what he's trying to proof other then how much of the art world relies on perception and marketing to valuate their products, putting an otherwise renown artist on a street corner hocking his wares and surprise surprise no one feels they're worth anything and unwilling to pay what his marketing campaign has traditionally insisted they should be worth.  This isn't some profound statement, this is economics 101.
 
2013-10-14 09:31:54 AM
But people said that car he spray painted was not ruined, and was now worth millions.
 
2013-10-14 09:42:50 AM
Americans don't know what the fark a Banksy is.
 
2013-10-14 09:44:48 AM
This just in, nobody ever cared what Banksy was spray-painting, they cared that he was spray-painting it on someone else's stuff because that's so "edgy" and "dangerous".

Tagging is to art as a Che t-shirt is to political discourse.
 
2013-10-14 09:45:06 AM
This Banksy adoration mainstreaming shiat has gone too far.  If people want to get into underground art appreciation there are oodles of great stuff out there.  Go feed a starving artist.
 
2013-10-14 09:46:37 AM
Man, Banksy is a troll's troll.
 
2013-10-14 09:47:51 AM

skozlaw: This just in, nobody ever cared what Banksy was spray-painting, they cared that he was spray-painting it on someone else's stuff because that's so "edgy" and "dangerous".

Tagging is to art as a Che t-shirt is to political discourse.


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2013-10-14 09:49:17 AM
I can photocopy, x-acto and spraypaint, too.

I wish I'd thought to put them all together.
 
2013-10-14 09:50:18 AM
That guy is Banksy?
 
2013-10-14 09:50:26 AM
The value of art is weird and fickle and depends almost entirely on perception and fashion.
 
2013-10-14 09:50:31 AM

Fubini: Who is going to believe a random street vendor when he says he's got art by a world-class artist? He can't really sell them as such. If you went to an art house and did some advertising first you'd get a much better take.


Well, that was kinda the point I took from the video.  You stick a painting up in a museum or whatever and everyone thinks it's great and worth a fortune.  You stick the same painting with a random street vendor and suddenly that painting sucks and isn't worth much.  Presumably world-class artists make good art.  Shouldn't good be good no matter where it's at?  Kinda says something sad about the current state of art.
 
2013-10-14 09:50:41 AM
Banksy?  $420?  Fools and their money....
 
2013-10-14 09:51:10 AM

Fubini: ...people who are really attracted to his work (young people) are not the kid of folks who are going to drop a lot of money on art

...

I imagine they just walked by and snapped a pic of his graffiti with their phones. His art by nature is disrespectful so I would expect anyone actually interested in it to just go ahead and steal it.
 
2013-10-14 09:51:13 AM
Stan Lee looked got to kiss the chick, so that was sort of a win.
 
2013-10-14 09:52:28 AM
Who's Banksy?  Never heard of him.her.
 
2013-10-14 09:53:06 AM
Who cares?
 
2013-10-14 09:53:14 AM
A group of men have allegedly begun charging up to $20 (£12.50) to view Banksy's latest graffiti artwork in East New York.
Just ten days into his month-long residency on the streets of New York, Banksy's works have been ruined by jealous rivals, sprayed with artless tags and even completely painted over.
But his latest piece, which shows a small beaver gnawing on a felled 'No Parking' sign, has been covered up with cardboard by enterprising locals who are now charging Banksy-loving visitors money to see it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/new-yorkers -c harging-tourists-20-to-view-new-banksy-graffiti-work-8874134.html



that speaks volumes about it right there....
 
2013-10-14 09:53:31 AM
He was trolling. The point is, art is up to interpretation and since there were no signs that said, "HEY INTERNET, THIS IS BANKSYS STUFF!11!!!!," None of his usual demographic gave two shiats, because it is what it is. Stupid, overly produced hot-topic esque spray art. Well done, Banksy.
 
2013-10-14 09:54:10 AM

MelGoesOnTour: Who's Banksy?  Never heard of him.her.


Oh, yeah, now I remember reading about him. I think he should be arrested for vandalism.
 
2013-10-14 09:54:50 AM

lennavan: Fubini: Who is going to believe a random street vendor when he says he's got art by a world-class artist? He can't really sell them as such. If you went to an art house and did some advertising first you'd get a much better take.

Well, that was kinda the point I took from the video.  You stick a painting up in a museum or whatever and everyone thinks it's great and worth a fortune.  You stick the same painting with a random street vendor and suddenly that painting sucks and isn't worth much.  Presumably world-class artists make good art.  Shouldn't good be good no matter where it's at?  Kinda says something sad about the current state of art.


It sure says something about Banksy's art.
 
2013-10-14 09:55:29 AM
lennavan:
Well, that was kinda the point I took from the video.  You stick a painting up in a museum or whatever and everyone thinks it's great and worth a fortune.  You stick the same painting with a random street vendor and suddenly that painting sucks and isn't worth much.  Presumably world-class artists make good art.  Shouldn't good be good no matter where it's at?  Kinda says something sad about the current state of art.

This is nothing new. There are loads on instances where a piece of art was thought to be by a famous painter and then a hundred years later something came up to indicate it was either by a student of theirs, their wife or a forger. Nothing about the skill involved in creating the work changed, nothing about the imagery, colors or content changed, and yet in an instant it went from being worth millions to being a worthless oddity in a collection.
 
2013-10-14 09:56:30 AM
 
2013-10-14 09:56:59 AM

lennavan: Fubini: Who is going to believe a random street vendor when he says he's got art by a world-class artist? He can't really sell them as such. If you went to an art house and did some advertising first you'd get a much better take.

Well, that was kinda the point I took from the video.  You stick a painting up in a museum or whatever and everyone thinks it's great and worth a fortune.  You stick the same painting with a random street vendor and suddenly that painting sucks and isn't worth much.  Presumably world-class artists make good art.  Shouldn't good be good no matter where it's at?  Kinda says something sad about the current state of art.


Art's value is what you can convince people who buy art how much they should pay for it. The actual quality of the work is incidental.
 
2013-10-14 09:57:39 AM

lennavan: Fubini: Who is going to believe a random street vendor when he says he's got art by a world-class artist? He can't really sell them as such. If you went to an art house and did some advertising first you'd get a much better take.

Well, that was kinda the point I took from the video.  You stick a painting up in a museum or whatever and everyone thinks it's great and worth a fortune.  You stick the same painting with a random street vendor and suddenly that painting sucks and isn't worth much.  Presumably world-class artists make good art.  Shouldn't good be good no matter where it's at?  Kinda says something sad about the current state of art.


That's kind of the point of Banksy.  At least his earlier stuff.  And say what you will about skill, he forced a dialogue that needed to be forced.

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2013-10-14 09:58:12 AM
I honestly have no idea what a Banksy is.
 
2013-10-14 10:00:21 AM
Y'all got some Kinkade?
 
2013-10-14 10:00:28 AM
The price of something is what the last person is willing to pay for it.
 
2013-10-14 10:07:01 AM
If a street vendor was pushing Gucci purses for $60,you wouldn't think you hit it big. A gallery you would expect it to be vetted.

Other than that, he has a humorous and well crafted approach to his art.
 
2013-10-14 10:07:10 AM

lennavan: Fubini: Who is going to believe a random street vendor when he says he's got art by a world-class artist? He can't really sell them as such. If you went to an art house and did some advertising first you'd get a much better take.

Well, that was kinda the point I took from the video.  You stick a painting up in a museum or whatever and everyone thinks it's great and worth a fortune.  You stick the same painting with a random street vendor and suddenly that painting sucks and isn't worth much.  Presumably world-class artists make good art.  Shouldn't good be good no matter where it's at?  Kinda says something sad about the current state of art.


Or it says that the 'value' in Banksy is the notoriety, not the quality of the 'art' in question.
 
2013-10-14 10:07:28 AM

SurelyShirley: Y'all got some Kinkade?


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2013-10-14 10:09:39 AM
I was thinking Banksy would be a bit younger, more spry, to be able to spray on some of the sites he's done.

That guy looks like he'd have trouble getting the cap off the spray can.
 
2013-10-14 10:11:12 AM
It's like when Joshua Bell was playing violin in the DC Metro.  The only one to stop and appreciate the music was a small child.
 
2013-10-14 10:11:24 AM
call obama. sounds like we need another banksy bailout...
 
2013-10-14 10:13:47 AM
People could give a shiat about the art, they want to be the one that found it.
 
2013-10-14 10:16:48 AM
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2013-10-14 10:17:12 AM
Not sure how this is sad. Street art vendors would be thrilled to take in 420 daily.
 
2013-10-14 10:18:35 AM

mbillips: Man, Banksy is a troll's troll.


Target Builder: The value of art is weird and fickle and depends almost entirely on perception and fashion.


There's a cool Banksy movie on Netflix called "Exit Through The Gift Shop" that deals with exactly these things. My wife watches it with her Art Appreciation classes every semester and the students tend to love it.
 
2013-10-14 10:22:47 AM
Dude made $420 in one day, I'd be pretty damn happy if I made $420 a day.
 
2013-10-14 10:25:53 AM

sxacho: mbillips: Man, Banksy is a troll's troll.

Target Builder: The value of art is weird and fickle and depends almost entirely on perception and fashion.

There's a cool Banksy movie on Netflix called "Exit Through The Gift Shop" that deals with exactly these things. My wife watches it with her Art Appreciation classes every semester and the students tend to love it.


Came here to recommend this. Leaving satisfied someone else already had.
 
2013-10-14 10:26:48 AM
Give me some well-placed lines and splotches on a rectangular canvas any day
 
2013-10-14 10:28:50 AM
Know someone else who is golden for his use of spray paint?
 
2013-10-14 10:29:47 AM

MelGoesOnTour: MelGoesOnTour: Who's Banksy?  Never heard of him.her.

Oh, yeah, now I remember reading about him. I think he should be arrested for vandalism.


It's cool that you shared your well informed opinion with us, thanks.
 
2013-10-14 10:30:44 AM

tb tibbles: If a street vendor was pushing Gucci purses for $60,you wouldn't think you hit it big. A gallery you would expect it to be vetted.

Other than that, he has a humorous and well crafted approach to his art.


yeah, i was going to say something along these lines

If someone on the street was selling rolex watches, i would not pay the manufacturer's suggested retail price.
 
2013-10-14 10:30:56 AM
I fail to appreciate the haters. Sure he's trolling, but he's a very good artist making a point. Which is also art. I would like to believe that, had I been walking by that day, I would have recognized his work and become a millionaire for a few hundred bucks.

R. MUTT
 
2013-10-14 10:33:51 AM

Billy Bathsalt: It's like when Joshua Bell was playing violin in the DC Metro.  The only one to stop and appreciate the music was a small child.


Not exactly true. But yes, I also thought of that video.

lennavan: Fubini: Who is going to believe a random street vendor when he says he's got art by a world-class artist? He can't really sell them as such. If you went to an art house and did some advertising first you'd get a much better take.

Well, that was kinda the point I took from the video.  You stick a painting up in a museum or whatever and everyone thinks it's great and worth a fortune.  You stick the same painting with a random street vendor and suddenly that painting sucks and isn't worth much.  Presumably world-class artists make good art.  Shouldn't good be good no matter where it's at?  Kinda says something sad about the current state of art.



Yet an original and an imitation aren't in fact "the same painting." Doesn't seem sad that the value of an artwork being informed by the purchaser's understanding of what the artwork *is* rather than what it resembles.

Particularly if a sidewalk vendor seems to be cashing in on an artist's recent publicity with forgeries, the proceeds of which will not benefit the artist.

/not really a fan, but I'd like to think I might have stopped and asked a couple of questions of the guy
 
2013-10-14 10:33:57 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: MelGoesOnTour: MelGoesOnTour: Who's Banksy?  Never heard of him.her.

Oh, yeah, now I remember reading about him. I think he should be arrested for vandalism.

It's cool that you shared your well informed opinion with us, thanks.


Next time he scrawls his "art" on property you (not he) own, give me a call to tell me how happy you are about it.
 
2013-10-14 10:34:08 AM
Andy farking Warhol singlehandedly murdered art. And made a pretty picture using the skin to sell to a multinational corporation for their brochures.
 
2013-10-14 10:36:53 AM

MelGoesOnTour: StreetlightInTheGhetto: MelGoesOnTour: MelGoesOnTour: Who's Banksy?  Never heard of him.her.

Oh, yeah, now I remember reading about him. I think he should be arrested for vandalism.

It's cool that you shared your well informed opinion with us, thanks.

Next time he scrawls his "art" on property you (not he) own, give me a call to tell me how happy you are about it.



I'd feel like this:

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