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2013-10-14 07:11:00 AM
FTFA: "Our President, who travels across the globe apologizing for the United States of America"

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fark does that even mean? I've never heard or seen such a thing from this President.
 
2013-10-14 07:11:23 AM
Ouroboros now officially new symbol of the GOP?
 
2013-10-14 07:16:32 AM

casual disregard: FTFA: "Our President, who travels across the globe apologizing for the United States of America"

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fark does that even mean? I've never heard or seen such a thing from this President.


You missed that? Obama's first trip overseas after his election was termed an "apology tour" by teatards because he, well, apologized for Bush's actions and attitudes and promised a more cooperative and humble America. Exactly what the rest of the world wanted to hear, of course, but to Republicans this was high treason.
 
2013-10-14 07:17:13 AM

casual disregard: FTFA: "Our President, who travels across the globe apologizing for the United States of America"

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fark does that even mean? I've never heard or seen such a thing from this President.


The Dumfuk party hates it when someone announces that the US is willing to learn from its mistakes.
 
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2013-10-14 07:18:52 AM

casual disregard: FTFA: "Our President, who travels across the globe apologizing for the United States of America"

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fark does that even mean? I've never heard or seen such a thing from this President.


This is in contrast with Republican members of Congress that go to China and apologize about U.S. regulations?
 
2013-10-14 07:22:10 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

RIP Elliot Ness.
 
2013-10-14 07:22:49 AM

d23: casual disregard: FTFA: "Our President, who travels across the globe apologizing for the United States of America"

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fark does that even mean? I've never heard or seen such a thing from this President.

This is in contrast with Republican members of Congress that go to China and apologize about U.S. regulations?


Or apologize to the CEO of BP for having the audacity to demand they clean up their oil spill in our Gulf waters.
 
2013-10-14 07:22:49 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-14 07:23:58 AM
Also Ness:
datingjesus.files.wordpress.com
/hot
 
2013-10-14 07:24:54 AM
Faux News reporter lies and water is wet.
Details at ten.
 
2013-10-14 07:25:45 AM

DemonEater: casual disregard: FTFA: "Our President, who travels across the globe apologizing for the United States of America"

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fark does that even mean? I've never heard or seen such a thing from this President.

You missed that? Obama's first trip overseas after his election was termed an "apology tour" by teatards because he, well, apologized for Bush's actions and attitudes and promised a more cooperative and humble America. Exactly what the rest of the world wanted to hear, of course, but to Republicans this was high treason.


Actually it was more like, "We're not perfect, but seriously Middle East, you need to get your shiat together.". He didn't really even apologize for Bush.
 
2013-10-14 07:27:32 AM
It's almost like, to some people, it doesn't actually matter what Obama stands for. I wonder why that is?
 
2013-10-14 07:28:58 AM
Also ness?
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
"Hey, leave me the hell out of this."
 
2013-10-14 07:35:55 AM
Fox is just playing gotcha. This man harmonized the truth with the audience's perception.
 
2013-10-14 07:37:21 AM

Felgraf: Also ness?

"Hey, leave me the hell out of this."


You cannot grasp the true form of Fox News' derp!
 
2013-10-14 07:38:52 AM
FTFA: "Fox News' Todd Starnes of Fox News..."

I thought he worked at the department of redundancy department.
 
2013-10-14 07:41:57 AM

DemonEater: casual disregard: FTFA: "Our President, who travels across the globe apologizing for the United States of America"

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fark does that even mean? I've never heard or seen such a thing from this President.

You missed that? Obama's first trip overseas after his election was termed an "apology tour" by teatards because he, well, apologized for Bush's actions and attitudes and promised a more cooperative and humble America. Exactly what the rest of the world wanted to hear, of course, but to Republicans this was high treason.


Can you link me to a reliable news item or a video where he apologizes?
 
2013-10-14 07:44:53 AM
Are there mushroom clouds over Tehran?  Are planes from carriers groups in the Persian Gulf and bases around Saudi Arabia making sorties into Iran?  Are the members of SEAL team 6 on missions to rescue these individuals? Are the American's mercenary groups on contract to bring security to a shattered remains of a country?  Since the answer is no to all of this, it is quite obvious that Obama just doesn't care.
 
2013-10-14 07:46:59 AM

markfara: DemonEater: casual disregard: FTFA: "Our President, who travels across the globe apologizing for the United States of America"

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fark does that even mean? I've never heard or seen such a thing from this President.

You missed that? Obama's first trip overseas after his election was termed an "apology tour" by teatards because he, well, apologized for Bush's actions and attitudes and promised a more cooperative and humble America. Exactly what the rest of the world wanted to hear, of course, but to Republicans this was high treason.

Can you link me to a reliable news item or a video where he apologizes?


That depends, can your browser reach websites hosted in alternate realities?
 
2013-10-14 07:47:45 AM
www.janelehrer.co.uk

RIP Jennifer Ness
 
2013-10-14 07:51:05 AM

wingnut396: Are there mushroom clouds over Tehran? Are planes from carriers groups in the Persian Gulf and bases around Saudi Arabia making sorties into Iran? Are the members of SEAL team 6 on missions to rescue these individuals? Are the American's mercenary groups on contract to bring security to a shattered remains of a country? Since the answer is no to all of this, it is quite obvious that Obama just doesn't care.


and if the answer was yes, he would still be wrong.  For reasons and therefore.
 
2013-10-14 07:51:12 AM
Obama expressed concern about the pastor

Oh, well, ok then.
 
2013-10-14 07:52:15 AM

WaitWhatWhy: markfara: DemonEater: casual disregard: FTFA: "Our President, who travels across the globe apologizing for the United States of America"

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fark does that even mean? I've never heard or seen such a thing from this President.

You missed that? Obama's first trip overseas after his election was termed an "apology tour" by teatards because he, well, apologized for Bush's actions and attitudes and promised a more cooperative and humble America. Exactly what the rest of the world wanted to hear, of course, but to Republicans this was high treason.

Can you link me to a reliable news item or a video where he apologizes?

That depends, can your browser reach websites hosted in alternate realities?


That was kinda my whole take on this "apology tour" nonsense. I remain willing to look at any evidence to the contrary, however.
 
2013-10-14 07:52:59 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Obama expressed concern about the pastor

Oh, well, ok then.


Yeah he should send a team of commandos in there. I can't see what might go wrong.
 
2013-10-14 07:53:40 AM
sharetv.org
 
2013-10-14 07:57:15 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Obama expressed concern about the pastor

Oh, well, ok then.


What exactly would you have him do? Should he have had a black ops team pick up the President of Iran while he was in the US and hold him hostage?
 
2013-10-14 07:58:08 AM

Skleenar: wingnut396: Are there mushroom clouds over Tehran? Are planes from carriers groups in the Persian Gulf and bases around Saudi Arabia making sorties into Iran? Are the members of SEAL team 6 on missions to rescue these individuals? Are the American's mercenary groups on contract to bring security to a shattered remains of a country? Since the answer is no to all of this, it is quite obvious that Obama just doesn't care.

and if the answer was yes, he would still be wrong.  For reasons and therefore.


Obviously.  This would just be a ploy to get his friends at the Mooslim Brotherhood enthroned in Tehran.  So as you can see, his nonchalance of the pastor is really just a reverse ploy to get people to want to spring into action!  Be vigilant against the tyranny of BOB!@!
 
2013-10-14 07:59:04 AM
markfara:   Can you link me to a reliable news item or a video where he apologizes?

Random quotes, make up your own mind.

"In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

"While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms."

"Don't be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we've made some mistakes. That's how we learn."

"Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. ... I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, too often we set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And during this season of fear, too many of us - Democrats and Republicans, politicians, journalists, and citizens - fell silent. In other words, we went off course."


How much credence do you give the Wikileaks cable?

In September 2009, US Ambassador to Japan John Roos reported to the Obama administration that the Japanese government did not think it was a good idea for President Obama to visit Hiroshima to apologize for the US having dropped an atomic bomb on that city, a secret cable published by Wikileaks revealed.
 
2013-10-14 08:03:42 AM
I think it's great that teabaggers can read that and come away with picturing Obama blubbering and hyperventilating with snot coming out of his nose while "apologizing", but can also read his comments after Benghazi and determine that he never said it was terrorism even though he said it was terrorism.

It's almost like they just hear what they want to and it comports with their bizarre preconceived notions.
 
2013-10-14 08:04:32 AM
Did this bombshell even make a single Summit attendee look up from his Grindr app?
 
2013-10-14 08:05:18 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: markfara:   Can you link me to a reliable news item or a video where he apologizes?

Random quotes, make up your own mind.

"In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

"While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms."

"Don't be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we've made some mistakes. That's how we learn."

"Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. ... I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, too often we set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And during this season of fear, too many of us - Democrats and Republicans, politicians, journalists, and citizens - fell silent. In other words, we went off course."

How much credence do you give the Wikileaks cable?

In September 2009, US Ambassador to Japan John Roos reported to the Obama administration that the Japanese government did not think it was a good idea for President Obama to visit Hiroshima to apologize for the US having dropped an atomic bomb on that city, a secret cable published by Wikileaks revealed.


I'm sorry that there were some people who were offended by my words.

//Nopology
 
2013-10-14 08:08:24 AM
Fox News' Todd Starnes, of Fox News, who gets paid by Fox News, made several false claims during his speech at the Values Voters Summit in Washington D.C. on Friday.

Wait a minute. Why was a Fox News person giving a speech at the Values Voters Summit?
 
2013-10-14 08:08:46 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: markfara:   Can you link me to a reliable news item or a video where he apologizes?

Random quotes, make up your own mind.

"In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

"While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms."

"Don't be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we've made some mistakes. That's how we learn."

"Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. ... I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, too often we set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And during this season of fear, too many of us - Democrats and Republicans, politicians, journalists, and citizens - fell silent. In other words, we went off course."

How much credence do you give the Wikileaks cable?

In September 2009, US Ambassador to Japan John Roos reported to the Obama administration that the Japanese government did not think it was a good idea for President Obama to visit Hiroshima to apologize for the US having dropped an atomic bomb on that city, a secret cable published by Wikileaks revealed.


OK. Thanks.
 
2013-10-14 08:13:02 AM

Lando Lincoln: Fox News' Todd Starnes, of Fox News, who gets paid by Fox News, made several false claims during his speech at the Values Voters Summit in Washington D.C. on Friday.

Wait a minute. Why was a Fox News person giving a speech at the Values Voters Summit?


Same reason that so many Fox News commentators just happen to have tried for the Republican presidential nomination at some point. Coincidence.
 
2013-10-14 08:14:20 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: markfara:   Can you link me to a reliable news item or a video where he apologizes?

Random quotes, make up your own mind.

"In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

"While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms."

"Don't be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we've made some mistakes. That's how we learn."

"Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. ... I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, too often we set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And during this season of fear, too many of us - Democrats and Republicans, politicians, journalists, and citizens - fell silent. In other words, we went off course."

How much credence do you give the Wikileaks cable?

In September 2009, US Ambassador to Japan John Roos reported to the Obama administration that the Japanese government did not think it was a good idea for President Obama to visit Hiroshima to apologize for the US having dropped an atomic bomb on that city, a secret cable published by Wikileaks revealed.


1-4: Good for him.

5. Since an apology never happened, it's not really worth mentioning. Also in my opinion there wasn't a compelling need for that one anyway, whereas with the others, I'm glad he put a lot of distance between the nation and the disaster that was U.S. Foreign Policy 2001-2008.
 
2013-10-14 08:15:42 AM

markfara: OK. Thanks.


Keep in mind, the only one that's closest to an apology is #3, and that was a speech given at Langley to the CIA. Not counting "we are sorry for nuking you" which who gives a shiat.

Publicly acknowledging that America's foreign policy can run on a principle other than "AMERICA FARK YEA" is only an apology to the people who honestly think America is innately exceptional because ~god~ or ~freedoms~. To sane people, it's a return to sanity.
 
2013-10-14 08:22:08 AM

sprawl15: markfara: OK. Thanks.

Keep in mind, the only one that's closest to an apology is #3, and that was a speech given at Langley to the CIA. Not counting "we are sorry for nuking you" which who gives a shiat.

Publicly acknowledging that America's foreign policy can run on a principle other than "AMERICA FARK YEA" is only an apology to the people who honestly think America is innately exceptional because ~god~ or ~freedoms~. To sane people, it's a return to sanity.


Yeah, agreed. None of this strikes me as out of line. It's just interesting sometimes to know where the Right gets their bullsh*t.
 
2013-10-14 08:22:51 AM
userserve-ak.last.fm

More Ness.
 
2013-10-14 08:24:30 AM
It is pretty telling that Obama has reversed course and apologized on numerous occasions...The so-called apology tour, his vote on the CR, his stance on gay marriage. And yet the last thing a Republican apologized for is getting shot in the face by Cheney.

Another sign that Obama has no convictions.
 
2013-10-14 08:28:36 AM

snowshovel: It is pretty telling that Obama has reversed course and apologized on numerous occasions...The so-called apology tour, his vote on the CR, his stance on gay marriage. And yet the last thing a Republican apologized for is getting shot in the face by Cheney.

Another sign that Obama has no convictions.


Good point. Bush was unerring in his commitment to his principles, and our country emerged all the greater as a result.
 
2013-10-14 08:29:02 AM

snowshovel: It is pretty telling that Obama has reversed course and apologized on numerous occasions...The so-called apology tour, his vote on the CR, his stance on gay marriage. And yet the last thing a Republican apologized for is getting shot in the face by Cheney.

Another sign that Obama has no convictions.


Only because his connections to the Weathermen won't be looked into!!11!?
 
2013-10-14 08:30:01 AM

casual disregard: FTFA: "Our President, who travels across the globe apologizing for the United States of America"

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fark does that even mean? I've never heard or seen such a thing from this President.


that's because it's fictional, and you live in reality.
 
2013-10-14 08:32:37 AM

sprawl15: markfara: OK. Thanks.

Keep in mind, the only one that's closest to an apology is #3, and that was a speech given at Langley to the CIA. Not counting "we are sorry for nuking you" which who gives a shiat.

Publicly acknowledging that America's foreign policy can run on a principle other than "AMERICA FARK YEA" is only an apology to the people who honestly think America is innately exceptional because ~god~ or ~freedoms~. To sane people, it's a return to sanity.


Sanity has a well-known liberal bias.
 
2013-10-14 08:54:06 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: [userserve-ak.last.fm image 361x360]

More Ness.


upload.wikimedia.org

Sheerness.
 
2013-10-14 08:57:05 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: markfara:   Can you link me to a reliable news item or a video where he apologizes?

Random quotes, make up your own mind.

"In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

"While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms."

"Don't be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we've made some mistakes. That's how we learn."

"Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. ... I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, too often we set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And during this season of fear, too many of us - Democrats and Republicans, politicians, journalists, and citizens - fell silent. In other words, we went off course."

How much credence do you give the Wikileaks cable?

In September 2009, US Ambassador to Japan John Roos reported to the Obama administration that the Japanese government did not think it was a good idea for President Obama to visit Hiroshima to apologize for the US having dropped an atomic bomb on that city, a secret cable published by Wikileaks revealed.

 
2013-10-14 09:03:08 AM

log_jammin: Zeb Hesselgresser: markfara:   Can you link me to a reliable news item or a video where he apologizes?

Random quotes, make up your own mind.

"In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

"While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms."

"Don't be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we've made some mistakes. That's how we learn."

"Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. ... I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, too often we set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And during this season of fear, too many of us - Democrats and Republicans, politicians, journalists, and citizens - fell silent. In other words, we went off course."

How much credence do you give the Wikileaks cable?

In September 2009, US Ambassador to Japan John Roos reported to the Obama administration that the Japanese government did not think it was a good idea for President Obama to visit Hiroshima to apologize for the US having dropped an atomic bomb on that city, a secret cable published by Wikileaks revealed.


It doesn't matter.  The narrative is written in his mind that this "means something".  You can't unwrite stupid once it's hard-wired in the brain.
 
2013-10-14 09:04:04 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: markfara:   Can you link me to a reliable news item or a video where he apologizes?

Random quotes, make up your own mind.

"In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

"While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms."

"Don't be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we've made some mistakes. That's how we learn."

"Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. ... I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, too often we set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And during this season of fear, too many of us - Democrats and Republicans, politicians, journalists, and citizens - fell silent. In other words, we went off course."

How much credence do you give the Wikileaks cable?

In September 2009, US Ambassador to Japan John Roos reported to the Obama administration that the Japanese government did not think it was a good idea for President Obama to visit Hiroshima to apologize for the US having dropped an atomic bomb on that city, a secret cable published by Wikileaks revealed.


Acknowledging that we are not perfect is far from an apology.  I don't see an apology from Obama in any of those statements.
 
2013-10-14 09:06:24 AM

casual disregard: FTFA: "Our President, who travels across the globe apologizing for the United States of America"

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fark does that even mean? I've never heard or seen such a thing from this President.


It's just something Republicans say to make themselves feel better, like 'Most Biblically Unfriendly President Ever.'
 
2013-10-14 09:06:55 AM
Does this mean they're really Fair And Balanced TM?
 
2013-10-14 09:17:06 AM
You know, there are plenty of legitimate things the Republicans can actually sit down and come up with to criticize Obama about.  But then they go ahead and just fabricate things.

If you have to lie to better your position, YOU HAVE NO POSITION.
 
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