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(Independent)   Owner of Oklahoma zoo where employee was mauled by a tiger and lost her arm: "She pulled her own arm out. The tiger didn't maul her"   (independent.co.uk) divider line 138
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2013-10-14 01:34:04 AM

DrZiffle: "Garold Wayne *Interactive* Zoological Park"

False advertising.


I dunno. That seems about as interactive as you can get, without having to use helicopters to wrangle the animals up at the end of each day...
 
2013-10-14 01:35:49 AM

doglover: Jument: Tigers are all cute and cuddly and awesome until one day, your arm gets mauled to bits. You really couldn't pay me enough to put any part of me into a cage with an animal that could kill you as easily as look at you.

It's not something they pay you do. In fact, zoos have elaborate systems of redundant fencing and pulleys so just such an event doesn't occur.


Not all of them. I heard one time in Oklahoma a lady got her arm bitten off.
 
2013-10-14 01:36:30 AM
Stop mauling yourself!

(hysterical screaming)


Stop mauling yourself!

(hysterical screaming)


Stop mauling yourself!

(hysterical screaming)


Stop mauling yourself!

(hysterical screaming)
 
2013-10-14 01:39:43 AM

Unknown_Poltroon: Was this a known dangerous animal?  Then yeah, shes a dumbass.
If this was "Tigger the tiger, sure you can scratch his belly"  then they need a suin.


I know it's been said multiple times but if it's a known living tiger, it's a known dangerous animal.
 
2013-10-14 01:43:40 AM

tillerman35: I believe that tiger framed her fearful symmetry.


The article doesn't mention the tiger glowing bright, and I don't think this happened in the night.
 
2013-10-14 01:47:29 AM

Smackledorfer: doglover: Jument: Tigers are all cute and cuddly and awesome until one day, your arm gets mauled to bits. You really couldn't pay me enough to put any part of me into a cage with an animal that could kill you as easily as look at you.

It's not something they pay you do. In fact, zoos have elaborate systems of redundant fencing and pulleys so just such an event doesn't occur.

Not all of them. I heard one time in Oklahoma a lady got her arm bitten off.


Break protocol in a machine shop and you'll lose your arm. Break protocol at a camp fire and you'll get horribly burned. Break protocol at a tiger cage and you'll be et in whole or in part.
 
2013-10-14 01:51:07 AM

picturescrazy: Unknown_Poltroon: Was this a known dangerous animal?  Then yeah, shes a dumbass.
If this was "Tigger the tiger, sure you can scratch his belly"  then they need a suin.

I know it's been said multiple times but if it's a known living tiger, it's a known dangerous animal.


Didn't we recently have a clip posted here showing a tiger taking down a crocodile?
 
2013-10-14 01:51:30 AM

doglover: Smackledorfer: doglover: Jument: Tigers are all cute and cuddly and awesome until one day, your arm gets mauled to bits. You really couldn't pay me enough to put any part of me into a cage with an animal that could kill you as easily as look at you.

It's not something they pay you do. In fact, zoos have elaborate systems of redundant fencing and pulleys so just such an event doesn't occur.

Not all of them. I heard one time in Oklahoma a lady got her arm bitten off.

Break protocol in a machine shop and you'll lose your arm. Break protocol at a camp fire and you'll get horribly burned. Break protocol at a tiger cage and you'll be et in whole or in part.


This.

I have a hard time seeing this as assinine, as the tag claims. If you stick your arm in a tiger cage, you should be prepared to lose it. It's that simple. It doesn't matter if "everyone else does it." Who the fark cares? If I worked at a zoo and everyone else stuck their arm in the tiger cage, I'd call them all farking nuts, and then laugh when one eventually gets bit and say "I told you say."

Harsh, maybe, but oh well. Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons(or tigers), for you are crunchy and taste good with (condiment of choice).
 
2013-10-14 01:52:45 AM

grumpfuff: doglover: Smackledorfer: doglover: Jument: Tigers are all cute and cuddly and awesome until one day, your arm gets mauled to bits. You really couldn't pay me enough to put any part of me into a cage with an animal that could kill you as easily as look at you.

It's not something they pay you do. In fact, zoos have elaborate systems of redundant fencing and pulleys so just such an event doesn't occur.

Not all of them. I heard one time in Oklahoma a lady got her arm bitten off.

Break protocol in a machine shop and you'll lose your arm. Break protocol at a camp fire and you'll get horribly burned. Break protocol at a tiger cage and you'll be et in whole or in part.

This.

I have a hard time seeing this as assinine, as the tag claims. If you stick your arm in a tiger cage, you should be prepared to lose it. It's that simple. It doesn't matter if "everyone else does it." Who the fark cares? If I worked at a zoo and everyone else stuck their arm in the tiger cage, I'd call them all farking nuts, and then laugh when one eventually gets bit and say "I told you so."

Harsh, maybe, but oh well. Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons(or tigers), for you are crunchy and taste good with (condiment of choice).


FTFM. Bed time soon.
 
2013-10-14 01:54:21 AM
Approves.

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2013-10-14 02:02:32 AM

Dahnkster: O-O-Oklahoma! Where the cat comes leaping down with pain.
Where the wavin' meat can sure taste sweet
And your boss comes right behind with blame.

Oklahoma, Otay!

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Glad she kept her arm, because she could have been....
wookin pa nub.



She was wookin in all da wong paces.
 
2013-10-14 02:05:31 AM
www.freakingnews.com
 
2013-10-14 02:42:27 AM

Ambivalence: He's not wrong. She put her arm in the cage, she might as well have taken a chainsaw to it.

Wild animals, especially carnivores, should not be trifled with.


Except the facility in question has a long, extensive history of facilities violations, so it's more likely that the boss just never bothered to train her, or the cages are set up where you have to stick your arms in to feed the damn things, or something.
 
2013-10-14 02:54:08 AM

Jim_Callahan: Except the facility in question has a long, extensive history of facilities violations


You can back this claim up? Because, somewhere between your ears, one citation has magically transformed into an "extensive history" of violations.

If this dimbulb went out of her way to hurl herself into speeding traffic, would that be a training issue as well? Because we can't hold her responsible for her own idiocy?

When did this attitude become so prolific?
 
2013-10-14 03:14:38 AM

simplicimus: picturescrazy: Unknown_Poltroon: Was this a known dangerous animal?  Then yeah, shes a dumbass.
If this was "Tigger the tiger, sure you can scratch his belly"  then they need a suin.

I know it's been said multiple times but if it's a known living tiger, it's a known dangerous animal.

Didn't we recently have a clip posted here showing a tiger taking down a crocodile?


Jaguar.
 
2013-10-14 03:16:31 AM

GreenSun: The victim's a supervisor. She should've known NOT to put any body part there. Anything that gets into a wild animal's territory is considered food or a threat. The owner is correct, it's the victim's fault and not the tiger...unless that tiger is super smart that it can say "It's GRRRRRRRRREEEEAAAT!" while trying to get kids to buy a certain brand of cereal.


The "victim" has said repeatedly it was her own fault she was injured and repeatedly, publicly made it known that the tiger should not be held responsible and campaigned against the tiger being put down for her mistake. The article is sensationalistic and ridiculous, not to mention completely unnecessary... just like most articles these days. Why let actual facts get in the way of a good headline, right subby?
 
2013-10-14 03:19:55 AM
One of my cats will attack you if you try to pet her and she doesn't want you too, or if she just feels like it.  If it's a bigger cat, say 400 lbs or so, it should be obvious why you might want to be a little more careful.

/Cats like to bite and scratch things
 
2013-10-14 03:45:27 AM

fusillade762: She pulled her own arm out. The tiger didn't maul her

The Garvin County Sheriff's Office confirmed that the woman was mauled

Mauled or not mauled?


Hmmm, cat in a box? Obviously the "Schrödinger's Tiger" paradox applies here so she was both mauled and not mauled at the same time.
 
2013-10-14 03:46:47 AM

linuxpyro: One of my cats will attack you if you try to pet her and she doesn't want you too, or if she just feels like it.  If it's a bigger cat, say 400 lbs or so, it should be obvious why you might want to be a little more careful.

/Cats like to bite and scratch things


Sadly, if some snot-nose little kid runs up to your cat and gets scratched or bitten....regardless of the situation, you'll be blamed.  Lawsuits and, potentially, the death of your cat.  Animal laws are pretty screwed up.
 
2013-10-14 03:55:30 AM

SpdrJay: Stop mauling yourself!

(hysterical screaming)


Stop mauling yourself!

(hysterical screaming)


Stop mauling yourself!

(hysterical screaming)


Stop mauling yourself!

(hysterical screaming)


hilarious!
 
2013-10-14 04:08:42 AM
Seriously? In Russia Soviet.
In Soveit Russia
In Soveit Rissua
Ni Vosiet Aussir
 
2013-10-14 04:10:45 AM

bighairyguy: fusillade762: She pulled her own arm out. The tiger didn't maul her

The Garvin County Sheriff's Office confirmed that the woman was mauled

Mauled or not mauled?

Hmmm, cat in a box? Obviously the "Schrödinger's Tiger" paradox applies here so she was both mauled and not mauled at the same time.


FINE, I'll do it your damn way, Drew:

In Soveit Russia; you open box, cat kills you!
 
2013-10-14 04:51:15 AM

Jim_Callahan: Ambivalence: He's not wrong. She put her arm in the cage, she might as well have taken a chainsaw to it.

Wild animals, especially carnivores, should not be trifled with.

Except the facility in question has a long, extensive history of facilities violations, so it's more likely that the boss just never bothered to train her, or the cages are set up where you have to stick your arms in to feed the damn things, or something.


If you're the sort of person who needs training to know not to feed yourself to the tigers, well, perhaps working with dangerous animals is not the career for you.
 
2013-10-14 04:55:22 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: linuxpyro: One of my cats will attack you if you try to pet her and she doesn't want you too, or if she just feels like it.  If it's a bigger cat, say 400 lbs or so, it should be obvious why you might want to be a little more careful.

/Cats like to bite and scratch things

Sadly, if some snot-nose little kid runs up to your cat and gets scratched or bitten....regardless of the situation, you'll be blamed.  Lawsuits and, potentially, the death of your cat.  Animal laws are pretty screwed up.


I've heard of that happening with dogs, but not cats. Is there a precedent of that happening?

To be fair, dog owners are generally required to not let their pets attack people, why is there a double standard that cats are allowed to be right little shiats? Does smacking a cat and disciplining it when it is violent teach it that certain behaviours are just not acceptable, or not?
 
2013-10-14 05:05:36 AM

AdrienVeidt: bighairyguy: fusillade762: She pulled her own arm out. The tiger didn't maul her

The Garvin County Sheriff's Office confirmed that the woman was mauled

Mauled or not mauled?

Hmmm, cat in a box? Obviously the "Schrödinger's Tiger" paradox applies here so she was both mauled and not mauled at the same time.

FINE, I'll do it your damn way, Drew:

In Soveit Russia; you open box, cat kills you!


or it doesn't... is it there or isn't it... you don't know till you open the box.
 
2013-10-14 05:06:52 AM

Nidiot: Fark_Guy_Rob: linuxpyro: One of my cats will attack you if you try to pet her and she doesn't want you too, or if she just feels like it.  If it's a bigger cat, say 400 lbs or so, it should be obvious why you might want to be a little more careful.

/Cats like to bite and scratch things

Sadly, if some snot-nose little kid runs up to your cat and gets scratched or bitten....regardless of the situation, you'll be blamed.  Lawsuits and, potentially, the death of your cat.  Animal laws are pretty screwed up.

I've heard of that happening with dogs, but not cats. Is there a precedent of that happening?

To be fair, dog owners are generally required to not let their pets attack people, why is there a double standard that cats are allowed to be right little shiats? Does smacking a cat and disciplining it when it is violent teach it that certain behaviours are just not acceptable, or not?


fun fact: cats are not dogs.
if you want to make a comparison say: wolves and cats... domestic dogs are far too removed from their wild roots.
 
2013-10-14 05:15:32 AM

Nidiot: Fark_Guy_Rob: linuxpyro: One of my cats will attack you if you try to pet her and she doesn't want you too, or if she just feels like it.  If it's a bigger cat, say 400 lbs or so, it should be obvious why you might want to be a little more careful.

/Cats like to bite and scratch things

Sadly, if some snot-nose little kid runs up to your cat and gets scratched or bitten....regardless of the situation, you'll be blamed.  Lawsuits and, potentially, the death of your cat.  Animal laws are pretty screwed up.

I've heard of that happening with dogs, but not cats. Is there a precedent of that happening?

To be fair, dog owners are generally required to not let their pets attack people, why is there a double standard that cats are allowed to be right little shiats? Does smacking a cat and disciplining it when it is violent teach it that certain behaviours are just not acceptable, or not?


Not usually, because cats are pretty much considered to be awful nasty creatures and any fool who messes with a cat, regardless of age, deserves it. Also, it's pretty well established that, unlike dogs, cats can't be trained not to scratch & bite. So whereas a dog owner with a known vicious dog can be sued, it's hard to prove an owner has a "known vicious cat" that's MORE vicious than any other cat in the neighborhood--and nobody has ever heard of an attack cat to the best of my knowledge.

You mess with teh kitteh, you get teh clawz, is the prevailing attitude.
 
2013-10-14 05:18:11 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: Nidiot: Fark_Guy_Rob: linuxpyro: One of my cats will attack you if you try to pet her and she doesn't want you too, or if she just feels like it.  If it's a bigger cat, say 400 lbs or so, it should be obvious why you might want to be a little more careful.

/Cats like to bite and scratch things

Sadly, if some snot-nose little kid runs up to your cat and gets scratched or bitten....regardless of the situation, you'll be blamed.  Lawsuits and, potentially, the death of your cat.  Animal laws are pretty screwed up.

I've heard of that happening with dogs, but not cats. Is there a precedent of that happening?

To be fair, dog owners are generally required to not let their pets attack people, why is there a double standard that cats are allowed to be right little shiats? Does smacking a cat and disciplining it when it is violent teach it that certain behaviours are just not acceptable, or not?

fun fact: cats are not dogs.
if you want to make a comparison say: wolves and cats... domestic dogs are far too removed from their wild roots.


So are you saying cats cannot be trained to not bite you, because they are still too closely related to their wild ancestors?

Cat owners are weirder than I first thought.

So if a cat bites you and you immediately smack it in response, what would happen?
 
2013-10-14 05:19:12 AM
Most pussies do not like other pussies,
 
2013-10-14 05:23:39 AM

Nidiot: HindiDiscoMonster: Nidiot: Fark_Guy_Rob: linuxpyro: One of my cats will attack you if you try to pet her and she doesn't want you too, or if she just feels like it.  If it's a bigger cat, say 400 lbs or so, it should be obvious why you might want to be a little more careful.

/Cats like to bite and scratch things

Sadly, if some snot-nose little kid runs up to your cat and gets scratched or bitten....regardless of the situation, you'll be blamed.  Lawsuits and, potentially, the death of your cat.  Animal laws are pretty screwed up.

I've heard of that happening with dogs, but not cats. Is there a precedent of that happening?

To be fair, dog owners are generally required to not let their pets attack people, why is there a double standard that cats are allowed to be right little shiats? Does smacking a cat and disciplining it when it is violent teach it that certain behaviours are just not acceptable, or not?

fun fact: cats are not dogs.
if you want to make a comparison say: wolves and cats... domestic dogs are far too removed from their wild roots.

So are you saying cats cannot be trained to not bite you, because they are still too closely related to their wild ancestors?

Cat owners are weirder than I first thought.

So if a cat bites you and you immediately smack it in response, what would happen?


you would likely get hissed at and likely scratched. If you abuse any animal, however, you are likely to cause a negative reaction. Cats are much more difficult to train because they all have an independent streak within them. No matter their size, 8oz to 900lb... they all have moments of cute and cuddly, and moments of the worst PMS you have ever seen.
 
2013-10-14 05:26:02 AM
I just want one of these as my home alarm system...

s21.postimg.org

That's not asking too much is it?
 
2013-10-14 05:34:31 AM
HindiDiscoMonster: .....Cats are much more difficult to train because they all have an independent streak within them. No matter their size, 8oz to 900lb... they all have moments of cute and cuddly, and moments of the worst PMS you have ever seen.

Gah, I'm sticking to my nice, even tempered, PMS free, non-bitey pets. They are just as cute and cuddly IMHO.
 
2013-10-14 05:35:46 AM
Thanks for the prayers everyone
 
2013-10-14 05:36:27 AM

Nidiot: So are you saying cats cannot be trained to not bite you, because they are still too closely related to their wild ancestors?

Cat owners are weirder than I first thought.

So if a cat bites you and you immediately smack it in response, what would happen?


It will scratch you and run away.

Cats mostly don't bite, though. I've never seen or heard of anyone BITTEN by a cat unless the cat was badly hurt or fighting with another cat and the person foolishly tried to pick it up. A cat's primary defense is to scratch, and no, you can't train a cat not to scratch. Cats method of aggression is usually (in rough order):
1. Hiss/growl
2. Flee
3. Scratch
4. Bite only when cornered or grabbed.

Anyone foolish enough to ignore the first three, or to pick up a cat that is hissing, is going to get bitten; but no cat is ever going to just bite someone right off the bat unless it (the cat) is ill or hurt. It's not because they're still too close to their wild ancestors, I suspect; but because unlike dogs, they're not social (group) animals and so have no signals for maintaining order. Dogs do--nipping is a way to teach puppies how to behave and snapping is a way to maintain social distance; so you CAN teach a dog not to nip or snap. Since cats use scratching and biting as defensive mechanisms, there's really no way to train them out of it--any more than you can train a dog not to bite when it's cornered or hurt.
 
2013-10-14 05:37:58 AM

Gyrfalcon: you can't train a cat


I just saved you a lot of words.
 
2013-10-14 05:58:58 AM

khyberkitsune: simplicimus: picturescrazy: Unknown_Poltroon: Was this a known dangerous animal?  Then yeah, shes a dumbass.
If this was "Tigger the tiger, sure you can scratch his belly"  then they need a suin.

I know it's been said multiple times but if it's a known living tiger, it's a known dangerous animal.

Didn't we recently have a clip posted here showing a tiger taking down a crocodile?

Jaguar.


Tigers and jaguars don't live together
 
2013-10-14 06:00:48 AM

Nidiot: HindiDiscoMonster: Nidiot: Fark_Guy_Rob: linuxpyro: One of my cats will attack you if you try to pet her and she doesn't want you too, or if she just feels like it.  If it's a bigger cat, say 400 lbs or so, it should be obvious why you might want to be a little more careful.

/Cats like to bite and scratch things

Sadly, if some snot-nose little kid runs up to your cat and gets scratched or bitten....regardless of the situation, you'll be blamed.  Lawsuits and, potentially, the death of your cat.  Animal laws are pretty screwed up.

I've heard of that happening with dogs, but not cats. Is there a precedent of that happening?

To be fair, dog owners are generally required to not let their pets attack people, why is there a double standard that cats are allowed to be right little shiats? Does smacking a cat and disciplining it when it is violent teach it that certain behaviours are just not acceptable, or not?

fun fact: cats are not dogs.
if you want to make a comparison say: wolves and cats... domestic dogs are far too removed from their wild roots.

So are you saying cats cannot be trained to not bite you, because they are still too closely related to their wild ancestors?

Cat owners are weirder than I first thought.

So if a cat bites you and you immediately smack it in response, what would happen?


You get scratched. Have you ever met a cat?
 
2013-10-14 06:03:13 AM

bborchar: Can't say I disagree with him. She knew better. Animals of any sort should always be treated with caution...especially farking tigers.


Bet she was wearing a short skirt too and just asking for it. Blame the victim much?
 
2013-10-14 06:05:37 AM

Gyrfalcon: Nidiot: So are you saying cats cannot be trained to not bite you, because they are still too closely related to their wild ancestors?

Cat owners are weirder than I first thought.

So if a cat bites you and you immediately smack it in response, what would happen?

It will scratch you and run away.

Cats mostly don't bite, though. I've never seen or heard of anyone BITTEN by a cat unless the cat was badly hurt or fighting with another cat and the person foolishly tried to pick it up. A cat's primary defense is to scratch, and no, you can't train a cat not to scratch. Cats method of aggression is usually (in rough order):
1. Hiss/growl
2. Flee
3. Scratch
4. Bite only when cornered or grabbed.

Anyone foolish enough to ignore the first three, or to pick up a cat that is hissing, is going to get bitten; but no cat is ever going to just bite someone right off the bat unless it (the cat) is ill or hurt. It's not because they're still too close to their wild ancestors, I suspect; but because unlike dogs, they're not social (group) animals and so have no signals for maintaining order. Dogs do--nipping is a way to teach puppies how to behave and snapping is a way to maintain social distance; so you CAN teach a dog not to nip or snap. Since cats use scratching and biting as defensive mechanisms, there's really no way to train them out of it--any more than you can train a dog not to bite when it's cornered or hurt.


I have a friend who has a cat (mad person obviously) and I have actually seen that cat sitting quietly on his lap being petted before suddenly turning and biting him. No warning hiss, it doesn't flee, just bites him. Evidently it gets tired of being petted, or doesn't like the way it is being petted. But I always thought it was a bit of a bastard thing to just bite the hand, or face, of the person who is petting you, because you want them to leave you alone, instead of just getting off their lap to sit somewhere else. Apparently that cat does that quite often too. Why people would want to own a random biting/scratching device I don't know. There are more social animals out there that are also cute and furry.
 
2013-10-14 06:08:16 AM

ransack.: khyberkitsune: simplicimus: picturescrazy: Unknown_Poltroon: Was this a known dangerous animal?  Then yeah, shes a dumbass.
If this was "Tigger the tiger, sure you can scratch his belly"  then they need a suin.

I know it's been said multiple times but if it's a known living tiger, it's a known dangerous animal.

Didn't we recently have a clip posted here showing a tiger taking down a crocodile?

Jaguar.

Tigers and jaguars don't live together


Well, Tigers don't generally live with other Tigers, nor Jaguars with other Jaguars. Only Lions have a social organization, and sometimes domestic cats.
 
2013-10-14 06:15:06 AM

Nidiot: I have a friend who has a cat (mad person obviously) and I have actually seen that cat sitting quietly on his lap being petted before suddenly turning and biting him. No warning hiss, it doesn't flee, just bites him. Evidently it gets tired of being petted, or doesn't like the way it is being petted. But I always thought it was a bit of a bastard thing to just bite the hand, or face, of the person who is petting you, because you want them to leave you alone, instead of just getting off their lap to sit somewhere else. Apparently that cat does that quite often too. Why people would want to own a random biting/scratching device I don't know. There are more social animals out there that are also cute and furry.


Nip or bite? There's a difference, mainly bleeding. I have a dog who likes to mouth me occasionally. I know he can bite through a lamb bone, but he just mouths me. Some people say he's biting me, but I would definitely know the difference.
 
2013-10-14 06:16:24 AM

Warlordtrooper: Blame the victim much?


Victim? What 'victim'?
 
2013-10-14 06:21:52 AM

Warlordtrooper: bborchar: Can't say I disagree with him. She knew better. Animals of any sort should always be treated with caution...especially farking tigers.

Bet she was wearing a short skirt too and just asking for it. Blame the victim much?


Given that she stuck her arm in the tiger's cage, I think blaming the victim in this particular case is totally appropriate. Actually, it's more like blaming the dumbass. How low does a person's IQ have to be before they haven't got enough intellectual capacity to work out not to stick any body part they ever want to see again, inside the cage of an enormous carnivorous animal? Would she also put her hand into a fire? How about into a meat grinder? What is wrong with people?
 
2013-10-14 06:30:26 AM

Nidiot: What is wrong with people?


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/teenager-mauled-lion-dragged -c age-2027876

The really depressing thing is.. .this isn't a once-off. These people are out there.... infecting the gene-pool.
 
2013-10-14 06:36:14 AM

Gyrfalcon: Nidiot: So are you saying cats cannot be trained to not bite you, because they are still too closely related to their wild ancestors?

Cat owners are weirder than I first thought.

So if a cat bites you and you immediately smack it in response, what would happen?

It will scratch you and run away.

Cats mostly don't bite, though. I've never seen or heard of anyone BITTEN by a cat unless the cat was badly hurt or fighting with another cat and the person foolishly tried to pick it up. A cat's primary defense is to scratch, and no, you can't train a cat not to scratch. Cats method of aggression is usually (in rough order):
1. Hiss/growl
2. Flee
3. Scratch
4. Bite only when cornered or grabbed.

Anyone foolish enough to ignore the first three, or to pick up a cat that is hissing, is going to get bitten; but no cat is ever going to just bite someone right off the bat unless it (the cat) is ill or hurt. It's not because they're still too close to their wild ancestors, I suspect; but because unlike dogs, they're not social (group) animals and so have no signals for maintaining order. Dogs do--nipping is a way to teach puppies how to behave and snapping is a way to maintain social distance; so you CAN teach a dog not to nip or snap. Since cats use scratching and biting as defensive mechanisms, there's really no way to train them out of it--any more than you can train a dog not to bite when it's cornered or hurt.


My cat will bite my wife's ankle as she goes to bed about 4 times a year. enough to draw blood sometimes. It has its claws too (usually declawed cats learn swatting doesn't work and default to biting.

/now you've heard of a cat that bites when it is not cornered or or ill.
 
2013-10-14 06:36:36 AM

simplicimus: Nip or bite? There's a difference, mainly bleeding. I have a dog who likes to mouth me occasionally. I know he can bite through a lamb bone, but he just mouths me. Some people say he's biting me, but I would definitely know the difference.


I guess it was a nip. I guess it served as the warning, which I guess works because it will make the petting stop.

I have another friend who has a Jack Russell cross who will sometime mouth her, mostly if she has been away for the weekend or something like that where he really missed her. You can tell that he does it out of a need to bond again more than anything. Almost a holding of her hand using the only thing he can hold with, given he doesn't have opposable thumbs.

He is also able to bite through entire bones with no trouble, so if he wanted to do some damage there is no doubt he could, small as he is.
 
2013-10-14 06:38:29 AM

harrydorcas: The Mother Feline stares at you and agrees with her tigress SO.

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Well, I'm glad it's morning here, because I'm sure not sleeping after seeing THAT...
 
2013-10-14 06:39:32 AM

radarlove: Wouldn't it be awesome if a rogue tornado ripped this place to shreds, freeing the tigers to gorge themselves on the slow and squishy Oklahoma populace?

I need to go get the tornado machine warmed up...


Have you noticed that there have been no tornadoes, earthquakes, hurricanes, or blizzards since the government shutdown?
 
2013-10-14 06:42:59 AM

radarlove: Wouldn't it be awesome if a rogue tornado ripped this place to shreds, freeing the tigers to gorge themselves on the slow and squishy Oklahoma populace?

I need to go get the tornado machine warmed up...


Ooh, "Tigernado"...you start on the script, I'll get the SyFy Channel on the horn, we'll make a bundle!
 
2013-10-14 06:44:25 AM

picturescrazy: Unknown_Poltroon: Was this a known dangerous animal?  Then yeah, shes a dumbass.
If this was "Tigger the tiger, sure you can scratch his belly"  then they need a suin.

I know it's been said multiple times but if it's a known living tiger, it's a known dangerous animal.


After all dogs have been bred to be "safe" around humans for thousands of years, and still they will occasionally attack (ignoring ones trained to do so). So considering any other large animal "safe" is intrinsically stupid, however well trained or behaved they can be normally.
 
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