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2013-10-13 02:48:01 PM  
It took a long time, but it looks like Lincoln should have just said, "Screw it, man."
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-13 02:50:22 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: It took a long time, but it looks like Lincoln should have just said, "Screw it, man."


Then we would just have a corrupt third world basket case on out southern border.
 
2013-10-13 02:56:52 PM  
demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up

lol! God these people are f*cking crazy.
 
2013-10-13 02:57:21 PM  

vpb: Bareefer Obonghit: It took a long time, but it looks like Lincoln should have just said, "Screw it, man."

Then we would just have a corrupt third world basket case on out southern border.


Wait... We don't already have that?

/thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2013-10-13 03:01:40 PM  

vpb: Bareefer Obonghit: It took a long time, but it looks like Lincoln should have just said, "Screw it, man."

Then we would just have a corrupt third world basket case on out southern border.


Instead, Canada does.
 
2013-10-13 03:11:12 PM  

FloydA: vpb: Bareefer Obonghit: It took a long time, but it looks like Lincoln should have just said, "Screw it, man."

Then we would just have a corrupt third world basket case on out southern border.

Instead, Canada does.


"Canada, you're like a nice apartment above a meth lab." - Robin Williams
 
2013-10-13 03:21:34 PM  
"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

Obama will put his Quran down when Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group, puts down his crack pipe.
 
2013-10-13 03:25:17 PM  
"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.


He's still a loon, but to be fair, he's learning.
 
2013-10-13 03:43:33 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: It took a long time, but it looks like Lincoln should have just said, "Screw it, man."

vpb: Then we would just have a corrupt third world basket case on out southern border.


The alternate course on WWII doesn't look pretty, in that scenario. The CSA siding with the Reich would make for a heck of a mess on the Mason-Dixon line front.
 
2013-10-13 04:53:17 PM  
Larry Klansman? Yeah, Larry Klansman.
 
2013-10-13 05:11:48 PM  
I think they fell a few shy of 1,000,000...even counting the non-vets.  But maybe those "pre-teens" are deep-cover special-ops.

cnnpoliticalticker.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-13 05:13:20 PM  
FTFA: "Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown"

I would love it for once if a news agency would be brutally honest and state tge obvious.

"Angered because the President is black..... the protesters...."
 
2013-10-13 05:25:50 PM  

b2theory: FTFA: "Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown"

I would love it for once if a news agency would be brutally honest and state tge obvious.

"Angered because the President is black..... the protesters...."


Now, now. A buddy has been posting photos from the protest and there are plenty of black vets in attendance. The whole racist thing just doesn't apply to everyone.
 
2013-10-13 05:25:50 PM  
but don't you dare call them brain-damaged
 
2013-10-13 05:26:37 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I think they fell a few shy of 1,000,000...even counting the non-vets.  But maybe those "pre-teens" are deep-cover special-ops.

[cnnpoliticalticker.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


They should've hired the Decemberists to play.
 
2013-10-13 05:27:11 PM  
Can we just start shooting these dumb sisterfarkers already?
 
2013-10-13 05:27:38 PM  
I miss the good old days, when Republicans just complained that Obama's Christian pastor was too radical.

This were simpler times. People tried to hide their racism, governments base functions hadn't been bargaining chips in a long time, and conservatives still felt an in long of shame when one of their own said or did something stupid.

A time long gone :-(
 
2013-10-13 05:28:42 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I think they fell a few shy of 1,000,000...even counting the non-vets.  But maybe those "pre-teens" are deep-cover special-ops.

[cnnpoliticalticker.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


A million pound march...
 
2013-10-13 05:29:25 PM  

timswar: I miss the good old days, when Republicans just complained that Obama's Christian pastor was too radical.

This were simpler times. People tried to hide their racism, governments base functions hadn't been bargaining chips in a long time, and conservatives still felt an in long of shame when one of their own said or did something stupid.

A time long gone :-(


Goddam autocorrect.

"Those"
"governments' "
"Inkling" (not "in long")
 
2013-10-13 05:29:35 PM  

HighOnCraic: They should've hired the Decemberists to play.


You get the Funny button.
 
2013-10-13 05:30:45 PM  
wonkette.com


Where's this guy when you need him?
 
2013-10-13 05:30:55 PM  
Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown

You poor babies. Forget about the fact that children are going without food that hasn't been properly inspected and cancer trials are cancelled, THE PARKS ARE CLOSED!
 
2013-10-13 05:31:51 PM  
Considering that the Tea Party is ONLY concerned about the budget they should be pretty happy.  The government isn't spending much money because of the intransigence of that Kenyan usurper.  What part of this do they have a problem with?
 
2013-10-13 05:32:02 PM  
These whackjobs aren't the lunatic fringe of the Republican party. They're the center. They're the party's base. This circus side show represents half of the major political power running this country.
 
2013-10-13 05:32:56 PM  

Kibbler: but don't you dare call them brain-damaged


I prefer the term "overly chromosomed".
 
2013-10-13 05:33:49 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I think they fell a few shy of 1,000,000...even counting the non-vets.  But maybe those "pre-teens" are deep-cover special-ops.

[cnnpoliticalticker.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]



That crowd is full of navy seals and members of the core just waiting for the moment to strike!
wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

/not a veteran nor do i claim to be
 
2013-10-13 05:34:11 PM  
Little do they suspect that Obama is actually a worshiper of Cthulhu!!!!
 
2013-10-13 05:35:42 PM  
I can't wait for folks to complain about how much trash is accumulating around these monuments.

The longer this goes on, the more likely there is going to be something truly horrendous that even Fox and Friends won't be able to ignore. They'll blame it on the intransigence of the House Democrats of course, and the White House, but at this point, there are way too many tales of some hinkey ass sh*t brewing and services that are going to be set back months thanks to this mess--which, oddly enough, is going to cost a passel of dollars to set back to right. Which will be spun as MOAR government waste, but damnation folks, maybe take a gasp outside the bubble, because it's got to be smelling up something fierce by now. Like coffee, cigarettes, and occluded shame...
 
2013-10-13 05:37:49 PM  
Is anyone pointing out the fact that these "people" are exploiting veterans? This propaganda style was somewhat effective during Goebbels time, but it is very transparent in 2013, right?
 
2013-10-13 05:40:05 PM  

Ooba Tooba: Is anyone pointing out the fact that these "people" are exploiting veterans? This propaganda style was somewhat effective during Goebbels time, but it is very transparent in 2013, right?


No. Propaganda works much as it always has.
 
2013-10-13 05:41:22 PM  
"This is the people's memorial. Let me ask a simple question. Why is the federal government spending money to erect barricades to keep veterans out of this memorial?" he asked. "Our veterans should be above politics. Enough games."

Said the Attention Whore standing in front of a bunch of screaming, foaming-at-the-mouth, bigoted teatards with Palin at his side blaming Obama for an entirely GOP-created shut down in a blatant display of political game playing.

[jokerslowclap.gif]
 
2013-10-13 05:44:03 PM  
If only these guys were there to lead the crowd in the pledge of allegiance.\

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-13 05:44:33 PM  

hubiestubert: trash is accumulating around these monuments.


For example:
 img.fark.net
 
2013-10-13 05:45:06 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I think they fell a few shy of 1,000,000...even counting the non-vets.  But maybe those "pre-teens" are deep-cover special-ops.

[cnnpoliticalticker.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


Is that another Make-A-Wish rally?
 
2013-10-13 05:45:08 PM  

phenn: Now, now. A buddy has been posting photos from the protest and there are plenty of black vets in attendance. The whole racist thing just doesn't apply to everyone.


littlegreenfootballs.com

They must have been the 54th Massachusetts come to get Johnny Reb.
 
2013-10-13 05:45:36 PM  

Ooba Tooba: Is anyone pointing out the fact that these "people" are exploiting veterans? This propaganda style was somewhat effective during Goebbels time, but it is very transparent in 2013, right?


Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it. - Miley Cyrus
 
2013-10-13 05:46:29 PM  

Alphakronik: [wonkette.com image 494x351]

Where's this guy when you need him?


He only gets called when OWS does precisely what these memorial protesters did. But that's OK - breaking the law is fine if you think you have a noble purpose.
 
2013-10-13 05:48:14 PM  

fusillade762: Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown

You poor babies. Forget about the fact that children are going without food that hasn't been properly inspected and cancer trials are cancelled, THE PARKS ARE CLOSED!


We're also out of coffee.
 
2013-10-13 05:49:21 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: phenn: Now, now. A buddy has been posting photos from the protest and there are plenty of black vets in attendance. The whole racist thing just doesn't apply to everyone.

[littlegreenfootballs.com image 850x481]

They must have been the 54th Massachusetts come to get Johnny Reb.


Who's the idiot who brought the Confederate flag?  Great messaging, guys.
 
2013-10-13 05:50:16 PM  
Hundreds show up to million vet march, a non-partisan rally lead by republicans and revolutionary war flag fetishists.
 
2013-10-13 05:51:49 PM  

fusillade762: Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown

You poor babies. Forget about the fact that children are going without food that hasn't been properly inspected and cancer trials are cancelled, THE PARKS ARE CLOSED!


/when these assholes remember that WIC has run out of money I'll feel sympathy.
 
2013-10-13 05:52:00 PM  
I'm going to love it if many, many years after Obama leaves office, he gives an interview and casually drops in that he's actually an atheist.  It's going to tickle me until I squeal.
 
2013-10-13 05:53:09 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: phenn: Now, now. A buddy has been posting photos from the protest and there are plenty of black vets in attendance. The whole racist thing just doesn't apply to everyone.

[littlegreenfootballs.com image 850x481]

They must have been the 54th Massachusetts come to get Johnny Reb.


Oh look, a Confederate flag continuing it's long tradition of representing backward, racist simpletons destined to fail.

Good job traitor!  And you can hang your hat on the fact you got a lot closer to the White House with that flag than the entire Confederacy ever did!
 
2013-10-13 05:54:40 PM  
Jam their cell phones and distribute pamphlets about how David Koresh's self-fulfilling prophesy played out.
 
2013-10-13 05:55:06 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: phenn: Now, now. A buddy has been posting photos from the protest and there are plenty of black vets in attendance. The whole racist thing just doesn't apply to everyone.

[littlegreenfootballs.com image 850x481]

They must have been the 54th Massachusetts come to get Johnny Reb.

Who's the idiot who brought the Confederate flag?  Great messaging, guys.


It's no coincidence that the great majority of Teabaggers are from the traitor states.
 
2013-10-13 05:57:24 PM  

PsiChick: fusillade762: Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown

You poor babies. Forget about the fact that children are going without food that hasn't been properly inspected and cancer trials are cancelled, THE PARKS ARE CLOSED!

/when these assholes remember that WIC has run out of money I'll feel sympathy.


All of the states except for North Carolina have picked up the funding gap.
 
2013-10-13 05:57:32 PM  
I think you libtards are missing the fact that these are tourist attractions. TOURIST. ATTRACTIONS.

The first step of any tyranny is to shut down the tourist attractions.

These people are TRUE PATRIOTS. I PLEDGE DALLIGIANCE TO THE FLATGG!!!111

blog.cleveland.com

farking jingoist, lying bastards
 
2013-10-13 05:57:58 PM  
http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/images-from-todays-protests- i n-washington-that-show-why-t


pbs.twimg.com
I don't understand how waving the Confederate battle flag is somehow an expression of your patriotism.


pbs.twimg.com

Now that's just crazy.
 
2013-10-13 05:58:04 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: phenn: Now, now. A buddy has been posting photos from the protest and there are plenty of black vets in attendance. The whole racist thing just doesn't apply to everyone.

[littlegreenfootballs.com image 850x481]

They must have been the 54th Massachusetts come to get Johnny Reb.

Who's the idiot who brought the Confederate flag?  Great messaging, guys.


That's sort of the joke.

It's like the guy carrying the sign of Obama wearing a jungle costume and eating fried chicken claiming he's not racist and that's he's TOTALLY UNAWARE of the racist connotations of his sign. Like, for real. He had no idea!
 
2013-10-13 05:59:53 PM  
At this point, it doesn't matter if Obama is a Muslim or Atheist or whatever, these teabaggers are basically set upon hating anything and everything about him.
 
2013-10-13 05:59:57 PM  
Just think of the balanced budget George Bush left us with. And now absolute financial catastrophe leading to civil strife and the End Times
 
2013-10-13 06:02:19 PM  
The funniest thing about the teabaggers is how they convince themselves and those in their bubble that AMERICA IS BEHIND US AND CHEERING US ON!  apparently unaware that most people have Dueling Banjos playing in their head whenever they see these yokels.
 
2013-10-13 06:03:51 PM  
You got to hand it to conservatives.  They have an amazing amount of chutzpah to try to use these closings as an attack on Obama.

Of course, making it easier for them, is the fact that too many of their supporters are living in a echo chamber where any sort of BS can be catapulted and they'll swallow the propaganda eagerly and rabidly.

So even their chutzpah, like their outrage, is counterfeit.
 
2013-10-13 06:06:08 PM  
one speaker saying Obama is not the president of "the" people but "his" people. Multiple signs read "Impeach Obama."But don't you dare call them racist
 
2013-10-13 06:08:07 PM  
fusillade762: Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown

You poor babies. Forget about the fact that children are going without food that hasn't been properly inspected and cancer trials are cancelled, THE PARKS ARE CLOSED!


This, this right here.  WAAAHHH!!!!!! I can't go into a shrine to me and my buddies right this minute!!!! Look over there; the lawn needs to be mowed and there's some trash on the ground!!!  F/ck those kids' nutrition, we gotta get this open again, for our nation's future!!

/F/ck you , Teabaggers.  Just f/ck you.
 
2013-10-13 06:08:21 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: At this point, it doesn't matter if Obama is a Muslim or Atheist or whatever, these teabaggers are basically set upon hating anything and everything about him.


static.someecards.com
 
2013-10-13 06:08:35 PM  
From their playbook for 2014: Obama defunded ACA and now women can't get birth control! Reproductive rights taken away!
 
2013-10-13 06:08:52 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: FloydA: vpb: Bareefer Obonghit: It took a long time, but it looks like Lincoln should have just said, "Screw it, man."

Then we would just have a corrupt third world basket case on out southern border.

Instead, Canada does.

"Canada, you're like a nice apartment above a meth lab." - Robin Williams


At least they keep out the riff-raff - They send Cruz down here!
 
2013-10-13 06:09:33 PM  

vpb: Bareefer Obonghit: It took a long time, but it looks like Lincoln should have just said, "Screw it, man."

Then we would just have a corrupt third world basket case on out southern border.


South Korea seems to be doing okay with the lunatics north of them.

Either way, maybe the tea party should put down Atlas Shrugged and scuffle back to reality.
 
2013-10-13 06:09:51 PM  

fusillade762: Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown

You poor babies. Forget about the fact that children are going without food that hasn't been properly inspected and cancer trials are cancelled, THE PARKS ARE CLOSED!


It's a simple idea, easily grasped by simple people, and it's what they've been told to be mad about.  I almost feel sorry for them.
 
2013-10-13 06:09:55 PM  
I also like how they keep complaining about the cost of the barricades.

Cuz I'm sure those cheap-o metal things that they already own and have sitting in a warehouse somewhere cost so much to zip tie together and hang a sign from.
 
2013-10-13 06:09:57 PM  

OdradekRex: Bareefer Obonghit: FloydA: vpb: Bareefer Obonghit: It took a long time, but it looks like Lincoln should have just said, "Screw it, man."

Then we would just have a corrupt third world basket case on out southern border.

Instead, Canada does.

"Canada, you're like a nice apartment above a meth lab." - Robin Williams

At least they keep out the riff-raff - They send Cruz down here!


/should be sent.  Long day...
 
2013-10-13 06:10:30 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-13 06:11:44 PM  

Cpl.D: You know what this whole fed park thing is about?  It's called "Counting coup".  Some tribes of Native Americans did this in their history.  Basically it was a way of making yourself look more like a badass by tapping your enemy with a stick while he was still able to resist.  Sort of like teabagging that dude you fragged in Halo.  Counting coup is what this is about... a pack of idiots desperately trying to win points in a game nobody cares about and nobody will ever cash in for them.

See also, "Rebel without a cause" syndrome.


Objection. Counting coup required actual bravery.

/from what i recall, it was before the battle, required you to run to the enemies line, and either tap them or take a feather or something
//either way, there were people capable of putting you down when you attempted it
 
2013-10-13 06:12:23 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Ooba Tooba: Is anyone pointing out the fact that these "people" are exploiting veterans? This propaganda style was somewhat effective during Goebbels time, but it is very transparent in 2013, right?

Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it. - Miley Cyrus


That would be funny, unfortunately it's not.
 
2013-10-13 06:12:30 PM  
I'm still waiting for the "after" pictures and reports.  You know, the ones with all the empty beer cans and Burger King wrappers all over the place, with these vets looking at each other like "Who's gonna clean it up?"
 
2013-10-13 06:14:04 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: PsiChick: fusillade762: Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown

You poor babies. Forget about the fact that children are going without food that hasn't been properly inspected and cancer trials are cancelled, THE PARKS ARE CLOSED!

/when these assholes remember that WIC has run out of money I'll feel sympathy.

All of the states except for North Carolina have picked up the funding gap.


And you don't think it's shameful that they had to in the first place? That we, the richest nation in the world, couldn't feed our own people?
 
2013-10-13 06:14:32 PM  
I really would not want to live in the kind of world that Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz are trying to force us into. I don't think any sane person would.
 
2013-10-13 06:14:46 PM  

NutWrench: "I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

Obama will put his Quran down when Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group, puts down his crack pipe.


They are entirely within their rights to use nonviolent civil disobedience to advance their agenda. It will work as well for them as it did for the OWS crowd two years ago. If they want to actually achieve their goals, they will have to use violentcivil disobedience. Of course at that point the government is well within its rights to arrest them, charge them with treason and throw them in jail. I'm not advocating the latter course, but frankly if they don't carry through on their rhetoric they're nothing but a bunch of pussies, amirite? If things are as bad as they say they are, it's their duty to engage in armed rebellion against the United States. If they have any balls, they'll do it. The fact that they won't do it indicates that a) their complaints are, to put it mildly, overblown, and they know it, and/or b) they have no balls.
 
2013-10-13 06:15:51 PM  

TV's Vinnie: I really would not want to live in the kind of world that Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz are trying to force us into. I don't think any sane person would.


I don't believe in the Jesus they believe in.
 
2013-10-13 06:16:20 PM  
Signs that you hate America and freedom, and are too stupid to live, and should kill yourself in order to improve the gene pool:

- You think Obama is a Muslim
- You care if Obama is a Muslim
- You have doubts about Obama's birth certificate
- You are a Republican
 
2013-10-13 06:17:19 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Alphakronik: [wonkette.com image 494x351]

Where's this guy when you need him?

He only gets called when OWS does precisely what these memorial protesters did. But that's OK - breaking the law is fine if you think you have a noble purpose.


I don't remember the OWS protesters tearing down barricades.

FTFA: After the speeches, the crowd wandered down to the nearby Lincoln Memorial and removed its barriers as well. When some officers tried to put them back up, protesters took them from the officers' hands... Taking something from a police officer usually will get you tased (at least.)
 
2013-10-13 06:17:52 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Considering that the Tea Party is ONLY concerned about the budget they should be pretty happy.  The government isn't spending much money because of the intransigence of that Kenyan usurper.  What part of this do they have a problem with?


They're like Daleks. The only emotion they are capable of is seething hate. At everything.
 
2013-10-13 06:19:51 PM  

Alphakronik: [wonkette.com image 494x351]


Where's this guy when you need him?


Man, you're too lenient. I'd go totally Kent State on them.

exiledonline.com
 
2013-10-13 06:19:59 PM  
Civil disobedience? Oh yes please, give authorities an excuse to lock up you nuts.
 
2013-10-13 06:23:01 PM  
Too bad WND gave me the life time ban hammer.
 
2013-10-13 06:23:39 PM  

TV's Vinnie: I really would not want to live in the kind of world that Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz are trying to force us into. I don't think any sane person would.


Think about this for a second:  in order for the fascists to take power in Europe, it took people suffering through the worst economic conditions of the century following what was the largest war the world had seen.

For fascists to take power in the US, it just took a black guy being elected President.  These people aren't hungry, they aren't suffering, they aren't in danger.

They're just horrible, horrible people.
 
2013-10-13 06:23:41 PM  
I don't see why people are biatching about the parks closing. What else could they shutdown that would hurt people less? Leave the parks open and close... what? The FBI? CDC? The Air Force? All these things keep people alive, closing the parks hurts nobody.
 
2013-10-13 06:23:58 PM  

shanrick: [i.imgur.com image 500x550]


Why the white space in the second one? Ran out of ideas?
 
2013-10-13 06:24:49 PM  
Is this continuing into tomorrow?
 
2013-10-13 06:26:06 PM  

Evil High Priest: shanrick: [i.imgur.com image 500x550]

Why the white space in the second one? Ran out of ideas?


They were on the verge of surrendering.
 
2013-10-13 06:26:50 PM  

shastacola: The funniest thing about the teabaggers is how they convince themselves and those in their bubble that AMERICA IS BEHIND US AND CHEERING US ON!  apparently unaware that most people have Dueling Banjos playing in their head whenever they see these yokels.


Or WWII German marching songs.
 
2013-10-13 06:29:56 PM  

Evil High Priest: Why the white space in the second one? Ran out of ideas?


It was a broken link.  It's hard to see, but there's a little red X in the middle.
 
2013-10-13 06:29:57 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: At this point, it doesn't matter if Obama is a Muslim or Atheist or whatever, these teabaggers are basically set upon hating anything and everything about him.


He's a Muslim atheist who zealously followed a white-hating Christian preacher for decades.
 
2013-10-13 06:32:00 PM  

Evil High Priest: shanrick: [i.imgur.com image 500x550]

Why the white space in the second one? Ran out of ideas?


Maybe they just wanted a white flag handy in case the battles didn't go well?
 
2013-10-13 06:41:12 PM  
shanrick:
img.fark.net


Forgot the last flag flown by the Confederacy:

t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-10-13 06:42:21 PM  

Evil High Priest: shanrick: [i.imgur.com image 500x550]

Why the white space in the second one? Ran out of ideas?



After Gettysburg and Vicksburg ... the Rebs realized they might have to use it as a surrender flag.
 
2013-10-13 06:46:05 PM  

Evil High Priest: shanrick: [i.imgur.com image 500x550]

Why the white space in the second one? Ran out of ideas?


Made the coloring books easier.
 
2013-10-13 06:48:45 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Rapmaster2000: Considering that the Tea Party is ONLY concerned about the budget they should be pretty happy.  The government isn't spending much money because of the intransigence of that Kenyan usurper.  What part of this do they have a problem with?

They're like Daleks. The only emotion they are capable of is seething hate. At everything.


I'd say the Tea Party is more like the Cybermen, since they want people to obey and want to delete those who disagree.
 
2013-10-13 06:48:46 PM  

Evil High Priest: shanrick: [i.imgur.com image 500x550]

Why the white space in the second one? Ran out of ideas?


img.fark.net

Easy to modify for the final one.....
 
2013-10-13 06:50:57 PM  
Jebus, where have the adults gone?  It's like all the "FW:FW:FW:FW" messages in my e-mail have transformed into humans and started wandering the earth.

/FWombies?
 
2013-10-13 06:54:31 PM  
I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?

Some guy gets up at a rally, and says a bunch of stupid crap and CNN runs with it like it is a big deal....

Meanwhile
Republicans created a healthcare plan
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/02/07/the-tortuous-co ns ervative-history-of-the-individual-mandate/


They pushed for this plan over the course of 2 decades, and they even supported this plan as late as 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

 Then
When The democrats agreed to adopt this plan, the GOP suddenly (and at that point only) decided the plan was unconstitutional and posed a grave threat to the nation.

They sued in the supreme court but lost
http://www.scribd.com/doc/98544934/Supreme-Court-upholds-Affordable- Care-Act

They ran presidential candidate who opposed the Affordable Care Act even though he had passed a nearly identical law in the State of Massachusetts
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservat iv e-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/

Obama was re-elected with the Affordable Care Act being a center piece of the election
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/


Deciding that the Affordable Care Act was a serious threat to the nation, the GOP engineered a strategy of threatening a Government Shutdown to protest the Affordable Care Act.

To pull this off
The Republicans strategized how to engineer the shutdown, and how to handle the spin
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/10/05/federal-budget-cri si s-months-planning/bhA7OHhAIBvNNincmzdtjJ/story.html


80 members of congress signed a letter to force the shutdown.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jwithrow/does-your-senator-stand-wi th -mike-lee-against-obam


They said a shutdown would not be a bad thing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/30/ted- cr uz-government-shutdown-wouldnt-be-so-bad/

They celebrated when it happened
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/republicans-shut-down-the- go vernment-but-they-cant-stop-obamacare-20131001


The House Republicans changed a long standing House Rule at the last minute to ensure the shutdown would stay in effect:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/the-house-gop-s-little-rule-change-t ha t-guaranteed-a-shutdown

When challenged about this, the republicans would not address the issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jd-iaYLO1A

All the while
They accused the Democrats and Obama of not negotiating, even though the democrats tried repeatedly to negotiate
http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/19-times-democrats-tried-to- ne gotiate-with-republicans-20131007?mrefid=mostread

Which should not have been necessary since Harry Reid and John Boehner had a deal, that Boehner backed out of.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/326425-reid-boehner-backed-out-of -d eal

And despite all of this,
The Radical wing of the GOP will still blame Obama for the Shutdown

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-republicans-b la me-obama-20131006,0,2739790.story


Meanwhile

In 2001, The GOP President and GOP Congress
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Combined--Control _o f_the_U.S._House_of_Representatives_-_Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.png

inherited a projected budget surplus and a projected elimination of the entire debt within 10 years.
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/new/html/Fri_Dec_29_151111_2000.html


The GOP then passed a tax cut,
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/41463

waged an expensive war
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-28/world/38097452_1_iraq- price-tag-first-gulf-war-veterans

and repeatedly voted to raise the debt ceiling with no demands on spending cuts.
2002 vote: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll279.xml
2003 vote: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/108-2003/s202
2004 vote: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/108-2004/h536
2006 vote: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s54
2007 vote: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/110-2007/s354


Then
When a Democrat was in the Whitehouse, the GOP decided it was worth risking a default to place demands on spending cuts.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/boehner-u-s-will-default-if-ob am a-doesn-t-cave-on-the-debt-limit


And to top it all off,
I have gotten almost all of this information from a joke of a website called "FARK" who's mascot is a god damned squirrel trying to shove his nut sack in everybody's face.

Meanwhile CNN runs a story about some crazy guy at a protest saying something crazy.
 
2013-10-13 06:59:17 PM  

Blahbbs: Jebus, where have the adults gone?  It's like all the "FW:FW:FW:FW" messages in my e-mail have transformed into humans and started wandering the earth.

/FWombies?


I don't get those any more, because I reply with a line-by-line retort, forwarded to their entire email list. If I'm feeling particularly sadistic, I would break each point of argument out into a new email.
 
2013-10-13 07:01:02 PM  

Blahbbs: /FWombies?


I like this word. Stolen.

blastoh: <snip of long, detailed, good post>


That is well reasoned, well sourced, and pretty much spot on.

So of course the Teatards and Fark IndependentsTM will ignore it completely or fall back on ad hominems.

/your newsletter, i wants it
 
2013-10-13 07:02:10 PM  

blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?

Some guy gets up at a rally, and says a bunch of stupid crap and CNN runs with it like it is a big deal....

Meanwhile
Republicans created a healthcare plan
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/02/07/the-tortuous-co ns ervative-history-of-the-individual-mandate/


They pushed for this plan over the course of 2 decades, and they even supported this plan as late as 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

 Then
When The democrats agreed to adopt this plan, the GOP suddenly (and at that point only) decided the plan was unconstitutional and posed a grave threat to the nation.

They sued in the supreme court but lost
http://www.scribd.com/doc/98544934/Supreme-Court-upholds-Affordable- Care-Act

They ran presidential candidate who opposed the Affordable Care Act even though he had passed a nearly identical law in the State of Massachusetts
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservat iv e-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/

Obama was re-elected with the Affordable Care Act being a center piece of the election
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/


Deciding that the Affordable Care Act was a serious threat to the nation, the GOP engineered a strategy of threatening a Government Shutdown to protest the Affordable Care Act.

To pull this off
The Republicans strategized how to engineer the shutdown, and how to handle the spin
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/10/05/federal-budget-cri si s-months-planning/bhA7OHhAIBvNNincmzdtjJ/story.html


80 members of congress signed a letter to force the shutdown.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jwithrow/does-your-senator-stand-wi th -mike-lee-against-obam


They said a shutdown would not be a bad thing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/30/ted- cr uz-government-shutdown-wouldnt-be-so-bad/

They celebrated wh ...


That should be reposted in all the shutdown/ACA threads.

You deserve sole use of all the internets for the rest of the day!
 
2013-10-13 07:04:40 PM  
Confederate flags and Tea Party stars. Nothing like the idiot who called for the shutdown in the first place, leading the charge to "protest" what he wanted to happen.

http://americablog.com/2013/10/sarah-palin-joins-ted-cruz-as-new-fac e- government-shutdown.html
 
2013-10-13 07:07:58 PM  
I just wonder how many of these "patriots" have ever visited these sites or would ever go to one? I also love how the GOP claims to care about vets when at the same time they're screwing them over
 
2013-10-13 07:08:59 PM  

blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?

Some guy gets up at a rally, and says a bunch of stupid crap and CNN runs with it like it is a big deal....

Meanwhile
Republicans created a healthcare plan
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/02/07/the-tortuous-co ns ervative-history-of-the-individual-mandate/


They pushed for this plan over the course of 2 decades, and they even supported this plan as late as 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

 Then
When The democrats agreed to adopt this plan, the GOP suddenly (and at that point only) decided the plan was unconstitutional and posed a grave threat to the nation.

They sued in the supreme court but lost
http://www.scribd.com/doc/98544934/Supreme-Court-upholds-Affordable- Care-Act

They ran presidential candidate who opposed the Affordable Care Act even though he had passed a nearly identical law in the State of Massachusetts
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservat iv e-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/

Obama was re-elected with the Affordable Care Act being a center piece of the election
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/


Deciding that the Affordable Care Act was a serious threat to the nation, the GOP engineered a strategy of threatening a Government Shutdown to protest the Affordable Care Act.

To pull this off
The Republicans strategized how to engineer the shutdown, and how to handle the spin
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/10/05/federal-budget-cri si s-months-planning/bhA7OHhAIBvNNincmzdtjJ/story.html


80 members of congress signed a letter to force the shutdown.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jwithrow/does-your-senator-stand-wi th -mike-lee-against-obam


They said a shutdown would not be a bad thing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/30/ted- cr uz-government-shutdown-wouldnt-be-so-bad/

They celebrated wh ...


A masterwork, Sir. I have to favorite you now.
 
2013-10-13 07:10:23 PM  
Dear Fark Republicans. Do you exist? Also, would you admit it if you did? How can you continue to stand with these assholes? How can anyone continue to support these assholes without being in the same echo chamber as these people? These people are trying to make sure their paranoia comes true. Don't believe the government is good at doing anything? Send to Congress people who can make sure it doesn't work, then you can be "right". Then blame the scary Democrats for trying to help poor people afford healthcare. Hell, if Jesus existed as you farkers believed, I don't know how he would ever support such a mean spirited bunch of wackos that seems to be what Republicans stand for now.

I know some farkers would be happy about that, but I do not look gleefully at the destruction of the Republican party. We need an opposition party that isn't crazy, we need someone to hold government accountable for all the things it shouldn't be doing. Spying on its citizens, killing brown people indiscriminately, etc. There are a lot of places where I certainly don't agree with the Democrats/Obama, but at least they aren't actively trying to destroy the United States to save it or whatever the hell they're trying to do.
 
2013-10-13 07:11:26 PM  

blastoh: I have gotten almost all of this information from a joke of a website called "FARK"...Meanwhile CNN runs a story about some crazy guy at a protest saying something crazy.


Are you a wizard?
 
2013-10-13 07:14:36 PM  

blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid. Seriously, This is news?


Great post.

I gave you an ensmartening.
 
2013-10-13 07:14:53 PM  
Bring it on. I would rather have a straight up fight to all this sneaking around.
 
2013-10-13 07:15:09 PM  

blastoh: (wall of text)


I left a few things off

Some Republicans are even calling for a deault.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/05/19/173961/nunes-calls-for-d ef ault/

Forgetting that we did default, for a day, in 1979, and it cost us Billions.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-07-10/business/35238255_1_tr ea sury-bills-default-debt-limit

And ignoring what economists are saying could happen if we default
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/us-default-markets-conseque nc es_n_901070.html

Thanks for the sponsor, and feel free to edit, add, and pass around.
 
2013-10-13 07:23:43 PM  
www.divorcednotbroken.com

Please note, my tantrum pic is of a crying toddler.

Babies have understandable reasons to cry. They have no language skills, poor eyesight, painful colic, inability to control poo and pee, poor co-ordination, inability to control body temperature, and generally are rather helpless little things. I feel it's inappropriate to compare Rethuglicoonts with little babies.

Toddlers, however, are selfish and vicious little shiatstains who cry only cos they don't get their own way, and should be beaten mercilessly with a damn belt til they shut the fark up - or at least crawl under a piece of furniture and stay out of your face for the rest of the night.
 
2013-10-13 07:27:54 PM  

Evil High Priest: shanrick: [i.imgur.com image 500x550]

Why the white space in the second one? Ran out of ideas?


They needed the flag to be as white as possible since it doubled as their Klan uniform.
 
2013-10-13 07:30:58 PM  
shanrick:

Just a reminder, there was never a NATION known as the Confederate States of America. The US Government never declared war on one. No foriegn government ever recognized one.

There were just a group of Americans who took up arms against their country men and their elected government to protect their immoral practice of keeping human beings in bondage and selling them as property.
 
2013-10-13 07:31:12 PM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Toddlers, however, are selfish and vicious little shiatstains who cry only cos they don't get their own way


Which is why for some time now I've been using the phrase TEA Toddlers.
 
2013-10-13 07:32:50 PM  
blastoh: [awesomeness redacted for brevity's sake]

That's a favoriting.

/Newsletter, jib, buy ya a beer, etc.
 
2013-10-13 07:33:03 PM  

clambam: NutWrench: "I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

Obama will put his Quran down when Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group, puts down his crack pipe.

They are entirely within their rights to use nonviolent civil disobedience to advance their agenda. It will work as well for them as it did for the OWS crowd two years ago. If they want to actually achieve their goals, they will have to use violentcivil disobedience. Of course at that point the government is well within its rights to arrest them, charge them with treason and throw them in jail. I'm not advocating the latter course, but frankly if they don't carry through on their rhetoric they're nothing but a bunch of pussies, amirite? If things are as bad as they say they are, it's their duty to engage in armed rebellion against the United States. If they have any balls, they'll do it. The fact that they won't do it indicates that a) their complaints are, to put it mildly, overblown, and they know it, and/or b) they have no balls.


You don't have a right to any kind of civil disobedience. You have the ability to break the law and be thrown in jail for a cause.
 
2013-10-13 07:34:59 PM  

b2theory: Just a reminder, there was never a NATION known as the Confederate States of America.


Officially.  In the US record books, at least.
 
2013-10-13 07:36:04 PM  

HighOnCraic: blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?

Some guy gets up at a rally, and says a bunch of stupid crap and CNN runs with it like it is a big deal....

Meanwhile
Republicans created a healthcare plan
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/02/07/the-tortuous-co ns ervative-history-of-the-individual-mandate/


They pushed for this plan over the course of 2 decades, and they even supported this plan as late as 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

 Then
When The democrats agreed to adopt this plan, the GOP suddenly (and at that point only) decided the plan was unconstitutional and posed a grave threat to the nation.

They sued in the supreme court but lost
http://www.scribd.com/doc/98544934/Supreme-Court-upholds-Affordable- Care-Act

They ran presidential candidate who opposed the Affordable Care Act even though he had passed a nearly identical law in the State of Massachusetts
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservat iv e-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/

Obama was re-elected with the Affordable Care Act being a center piece of the election
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/


Deciding that the Affordable Care Act was a serious threat to the nation, the GOP engineered a strategy of threatening a Government Shutdown to protest the Affordable Care Act.

To pull this off
The Republicans strategized how to engineer the shutdown, and how to handle the spin
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/10/05/federal-budget-cri si s-months-planning/bhA7OHhAIBvNNincmzdtjJ/story.html


80 members of congress signed a letter to force the shutdown.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jwithrow/does-your-senator-stand-wi th -mike-lee-against-obam


They said a shutdown would not be a bad thing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/30/ted- cr uz-government-shutdown-wouldnt-be-so-bad/

They celebrated wh ...

That should be reposted in all the shutdown/ACA threads.

You deserve sole use of all the internets for the rest of the day!


I agree this should be put in a graphic and posted in every thread.
 
2013-10-13 07:41:12 PM  

fusillade762: Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown

You poor babies. Forget about the fact that children are going without food that hasn't been properly inspected and cancer trials are cancelled, THE PARKS ARE CLOSED!


Remember, the right-wing doesn't care about that.

Their healthcare plan is "don't get sick", people with cancer had to go off and get sick even though they weren't supposed to.

They are bootstrappy and don't need some big-government inspector telling them food isn't safe, they don't need food inspectors, after all the food they buy has always been safe so there's clearly no need to inspect it!

/Idiots. . .
 
2013-10-13 07:42:08 PM  

bbfreak: Dear Fark Republicans. Do you exist? Also, would you admit it if you did? How can you continue to stand with these assholes? How can anyone continue to support these assholes without being in the same echo chamber as these people? These people are trying to make sure their paranoia comes true. Don't believe the government is good at doing anything? Send to Congress people who can make sure it doesn't work, then you can be "right". Then blame the scary Democrats for trying to help poor people afford healthcare. Hell, if Jesus existed as you farkers believed, I don't know how he would ever support such a mean spirited bunch of wackos that seems to be what Republicans stand for now.

I know some farkers would be happy about that, but I do not look gleefully at the destruction of the Republican party. We need an opposition party that isn't crazy, we need someone to hold government accountable for all the things it shouldn't be doing. Spying on its citizens, killing brown people indiscriminately, etc. There are a lot of places where I certainly don't agree with the Democrats/Obama, but at least they aren't actively trying to destroy the United States to save it or whatever the hell they're trying to do.


I don't stand with them and I am starting to believe it is time to dissolve the party.

The best way out at this point is for the moderates to declare themselves independents and caucus with the Democrats in the short term. In the long term a new party needs to be formed. I am not arguing for a third party. I am arguing the moderate republicans and the center-right democrats form a new party. After that point, both parties will agree not to give political support and shelter to those who are racist and dont recognize the establishment clause. The party has been over run with racists and domionists.
 
2013-10-13 07:42:13 PM  

blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?


Followed by a great post. POTY.

Dude, why don't you e-mail this to some so-called journalists of the so-called free press?

The issue is that the free press is no longer free.  So what is the point?  Maybe 1,000 farkers will read your post.  What difference does it make?
 
2013-10-13 07:48:00 PM  

b2theory: shanrick:

Just a reminder, there was never a NATION known as the Confederate States of America. The US Government never declared war on one. No foriegn government ever recognized one.

There were just a group of Americans who took up arms against their country men and their elected government to protect their immoral practice of keeping human beings in bondage and selling them as property.


Yep.
That's why Grant never negotiated with the traitor organizers, Jeff Davis and his gang.
He kept them pickled up on a riverboat while Sherman partied his way across Georgia and the Carolinas.
 
2013-10-13 07:49:19 PM  
No more government checks for tea toddlers.
 
2013-10-13 07:52:44 PM  

blastoh: And ignoring what economists are saying could happen if we default
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/us-default-markets-conseque nc es_n_901070.html


Of course they ignore the economists.

That's a symptom of a larger problem, the modern conservative thinks that their beliefs create reality, they don't have to believe in anything they don't want to.

Don't like Global Warming because it might imply you need to change your business policies?  Just ignore the climatologists and call it "junk science".

Don't like Evolution because it conflicts with your literal interpretation of the Bible?  Just demand schools teach creationism, try to dress it up as "intelligent design", and create controversy to make it look like evolution is discredited.

Don't like that statistics and polls say your candidate is losing?  Unskew them and just make up numbers that sound better.

Don't like that economists say that a sovereign debt default could trigger a worldwide recession or a second great depression?  Just ignore it and say it'll be good for the economy or nobody will notice, because bootstraps.

It's the same sickness, the same disease, this time the plague carrier has their hands on what amounts to the main engine of the country, and they're thinking they can rip out the fuel lines and it'll still work.
 
2013-10-13 07:53:56 PM  

b2theory: HighOnCraic: blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?

Some guy gets up at a rally, and says a bunch of stupid crap and CNN runs with it like it is a big deal....

Meanwhile
Republicans created a healthcare plan
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/02/07/the-tortuous-co ns ervative-history-of-the-individual-mandate/


They pushed for this plan over the course of 2 decades, and they even supported this plan as late as 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

 Then
When The democrats agreed to adopt this plan, the GOP suddenly (and at that point only) decided the plan was unconstitutional and posed a grave threat to the nation.

They sued in the supreme court but lost
http://www.scribd.com/doc/98544934/Supreme-Court-upholds-Affordable- Care-Act

They ran presidential candidate who opposed the Affordable Care Act even though he had passed a nearly identical law in the State of Massachusetts
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservat iv e-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/

Obama was re-elected with the Affordable Care Act being a center piece of the election
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/


Deciding that the Affordable Care Act was a serious threat to the nation, the GOP engineered a strategy of threatening a Government Shutdown to protest the Affordable Care Act.

To pull this off
The Republicans strategized how to engineer the shutdown, and how to handle the spin
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/10/05/federal-budget-cri si s-months-planning/bhA7OHhAIBvNNincmzdtjJ/story.html


80 members of congress signed a letter to force the shutdown.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jwithrow/does-your-senator-stand-wi th -mike-lee-against-obam


They said a shutdown would not be a bad thing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/30/ted- cr uz-government-shutdown-wouldnt-be-so-ba ...


Then again, maybe I'm being delusional in thinking that people who hate Obamacare and support the shutdown will read all that and have a moment of clarity...
 
2013-10-13 08:00:38 PM  

cubic_spleen: Signs that you hate America and freedom, and are too stupid to live, and should kill yourself in order to improve the gene pool:

- You think Obama is a Muslim
- You care if Obama is a Muslim
- You have doubts about Obama's birth certificate
- You are a Republican


So it's the old 'A, B, C, or all of the above' trick question, eh?
 
2013-10-13 08:05:37 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Alphakronik: [wonkette.com image 494x351]

Where's this guy when you need him?

He only gets called when OWS does precisely what these memorial protesters did. But that's OK - breaking the law is fine if you think you have a noble purpose.


A couple of summers ago, it wasn't so apparent, but I think the Occupy movement has a very clear idea of who their enemy is now.

Maybe it's time for a meeting of "ideas".
 
2013-10-13 08:07:38 PM  

b2theory: FTFA: "Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown"

I would love it for once if a news agency would be brutally honest and state tge obvious.

"Angered because the President is black..... the protesters...."


They're not racists, they hate Biden, Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, and the rest of the Democrat farking retards too.  Obama achieved Imbecile Gold status with the passing of Obamacare.
 
2013-10-13 08:11:45 PM  

armoredbulldozer: b2theory: FTFA: "Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown"

I would love it for once if a news agency would be brutally honest and state tge obvious.

"Angered because the President is black..... the protesters...."

They're not racists, they hate Biden, Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, and the rest of the Democrat farking retards too.  Obama achieved Imbecile Gold status with the passing of Obamacare.


We are dealing in facts here. They may be unfortunate facts but I can't help that. As a Republican voter it is clear to me that the common thread of their criticisms is the race of the President.
 
2013-10-13 08:13:23 PM  

kpaxoid: blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?

Followed by a great post. POTY.

Dude, why don't you e-mail this to some so-called journalists of the so-called free press?

The issue is that the free press is no longer free.  So what is the point?  Maybe 1,000 farkers will read your post.  What difference does it make?


Working on it.
I just put a submission in with this attached

I've been working on that.  And you are right.  if a thousand Farkers read it, no big deal.  But what if a thousand farkers all spammed the hell out of the press with this?

--------------------

If I can ask you to take a little time, there is a little experiment I am asking Farkers to engage in.
We keep hearing the "both sides are bad" line which we know is historically a load of crap.
I understand the need for the press to try and remain neutral.  However, when news organizations intentionally cherry pick what stories to run  to pre

So, if they are going to actively engage in a news strategy that enables a Government shutdown to go on longer than it needs to, all at the same time, risking a default, then lets both play that game.

The goal...

Shut down the news until they shutdown the shutdown.

Trust me, that sounds a lot more ridiculous when you say it out loud.  If you try and make a song out of it, then you are more disturbed than I am.


However, there are things we can do.  So with this in mind, I have made a little factsheet below.


And, here is what I am asking..

Copy this factsheet into your handy little clipboard.

Then scroll over to Facebook.  No, I do not want you to post this on your wall.  You can, but that is
not the point.  The point is to get this out there, in front of people.

Then go to all of these news outlets Facebook pages, and paste it on their wall.

If they do not  allow posting to their wall, then scroll down to the first story about the shutdown, and post it in a comment there.

Some notes about the factsheet
Sadly, most of it was gathered from Fark.
I tried to leave commentary out of it.   Nothing critical, no name calling.
I did try and use original sources* as much as possible.   If you have an original source, for one of the stories, feel free to share.

Links to a few Facebook news pages.
However, it is quicker if you just type them name into the Facebook Search.
Also your local news would be a good call.

https://www.facebook.com/abcnews

https://www.facebook.com/CBS

https://www.facebook.com/NBCNews

https://www.facebook.com/cnn

https://www.facebook.com/PiersMorganLive

https://www.facebook.com/60minutes

https://www.facebook.com/AC360

https://www.facebook.com/latimes

https://www.facebook.com/washingtonpost


Also, use this link to find your congressmen, and post it on their wall.  Find the congressmen for your state, and post it on their wall
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

For added Bonus, go a head, post on your wall, and ask others to do the same.

Seriously.  This might sound silly.  It might sound like a waste of time.  But when news organizations start their day Monday morning, and 1,000 people (or more) have flooded them.  It will be a real WTF moment, and they might decide that if they aren't going to tell the full story for integrity sake, then maybe they will do it for the ratings.

And if you think you don't have time, it takes about 10-15 minutes. Which is about how much time it  takes to Google that cute meme you were going to post in reply to this.
 
2013-10-13 08:14:00 PM  

blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?

Some guy gets up at a rally, and says a bunch of stupid crap and CNN runs with it like it is a big deal....

Meanwhile
 (snipped for space)


Well done! And fave'd.

CNN doesn't care about "news", and they certainly don't care about journalism. They care about picking up market share from FoxNews as the GOP fragments, and about whatever their advertisers tell them to care about.
 
2013-10-13 08:14:12 PM  

hubiestubert: I can't wait for folks to complain about how much trash is accumulating around these monuments.


Unpossible.  Only Liberals throw their trash everywhere.  I have it on Good Authority.

/they also poop on cop cars and rape everything in sight
 
2013-10-13 08:15:13 PM  

armoredbulldozer: Imbecile


Oh how nice.  You have a favorite word.
 
2013-10-13 08:16:54 PM  
"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

I hate to admit this, because in general I'm a peace loving kind of guy, but there are really some people who should get the shiat beat out of them.
 
2013-10-13 08:19:28 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: hubiestubert: I can't wait for folks to complain about how much trash is accumulating around these monuments.

Unpossible.  Only Liberals throw their trash everywhere.  I have it on Good Authority.

/they also poop on cop cars and rape everything in sight


Is that the way it goes? Thanks for the clarification. There should be far less feces-strewn-about and pecker burns in my future!
 
2013-10-13 08:22:57 PM  
I bet Schneider National is loving the PR from this pic in the Washington Post:

img.fark.net
 
2013-10-13 08:25:10 PM  

born_yesterday: blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid. Seriously, This is news?

Great post.

I gave you an ensmartening.


much appreciated
 
2013-10-13 08:25:15 PM  

blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?

Some guy gets up at a rally, and says a bunch of stupid crap and CNN runs with it like it is a big deal....

Meanwhile
Republicans created a healthcare plan
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/02/07/the-tortuous-co ns ervative-history-of-the-individual-mandate/


They pushed for this plan over the course of 2 decades, and they even supported this plan as late as 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

 Then
When The democrats agreed to adopt this plan, the GOP suddenly (and at that point only) decided the plan was unconstitutional and posed a grave threat to the nation.

They sued in the supreme court but lost
http://www.scribd.com/doc/98544934/Supreme-Court-upholds-Affordable- Care-Act

They ran presidential candidate who opposed the Affordable Care Act even though he had passed a nearly identical law in the State of Massachusetts
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservat iv e-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/

Obama was re-elected with the Affordable Care Act being a center piece of the election
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/


Deciding that the Affordable Care Act was a serious threat to the nation, the GOP engineered a strategy of threatening a Government Shutdown to protest the Affordable Care Act.

To pull this off
The Republicans strategized how to engineer the shutdown, and how to handle the spin
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/10/05/federal-budget-cri si s-months-planning/bhA7OHhAIBvNNincmzdtjJ/story.html


80 members of congress signed a letter to force the shutdown.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jwithrow/does-your-senator-stand-wi th -mike-lee-against-obam


They said a shutdown would not be a bad thing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/30/ted- cr uz-government-shutdown-wouldnt-be-so-bad/

They celebrated wh ...


I just copy & pasted this in an e-mail to my parents, to try to explain to them why this isn't all Obama's fault (nice people, but watch too much FOX News for their own health).  They are moderate Republicans who think the Teabaggers are extremists, but are confused as to what's happening since the mainstream media (and especially FOX) is NOT being helpful explaining things.
 
2013-10-13 08:30:47 PM  

blastoh: Which is about how much time it takes to Google that cute meme you were going to post in reply to this.

 
2013-10-13 08:31:40 PM  

HighOnCraic: blastoh: Which is about how much time it takes to Google that cute meme you were going to post in reply to this.


suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com
 
2013-10-13 08:32:29 PM  

HighOnCraic: HighOnCraic: blastoh: Which is about how much time it takes to Google that cute meme you were going to post in reply to this.

[suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com image 62x68]


Damn, it was supposed to be [areyouawizard?.jpg]
 
2013-10-13 08:34:40 PM  

blastoh: kpaxoid: blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?

Followed by a great post. POTY.

Dude, why don't you e-mail this to some so-called journalists of the so-called free press?

The issue is that the free press is no longer free.  So what is the point?  Maybe 1,000 farkers will read your post.  What difference does it make?

Working on it.
I just put a submission in with this attached

I've been working on that.  And you are right.  if a thousand Farkers read it, no big deal.  But what if a thousand farkers all spammed the hell out of the press with this?

--------------------

If I can ask you to take a little time, there is a little experiment I am asking Farkers to engage in.
We keep hearing the "both sides are bad" line which we know is historically a load of crap.
I understand the need for the press to try and remain neutral.  However, when news organizations intentionally cherry pick what stories to run  to pre

So, if they are going to actively engage in a news strategy that enables a Government shutdown to go on longer than it needs to, all at the same time, risking a default, then lets both play that game.

The goal...

Shut down the news until they shutdown the shutdown.

Trust me, that sounds a lot more ridiculous when you say it out loud.  If you try and make a song out of it, then you are more disturbed than I am.


However, there are things we can do.  So with this in mind, I have made a little factsheet below.


And, here is what I am asking..

Copy this factsheet into your handy little clipboard.

Then scroll over to Facebook.  No, I do not want you to post this on your wall.  You can, but that is
not the point.  The point is to get this out there, in front of people.

Then go to all of these news outlets Facebook pages, and paste it on their wall.

If they do not  allow posting to their wall, then scroll down to the first story about the shutdown, and po ...


Kept going til they yanked my public posting privileges. Anybody else going to man up?
 
2013-10-13 08:37:14 PM  

GWSuperfan: I bet Schneider National is loving the PR from this pic in the Washington Post:

[img.fark.net image 576x406]


They are headquarted in Green Bay, WI, in Scott Walker territory.  He may actually get a raise for being in this pic.
 
2013-10-13 08:44:05 PM  

undflickertail: He may actually get a raise for being in this pic.


LOL- according to the caption, it's a SHE
 
2013-10-13 09:08:51 PM  
The Republican Party is "in the last throes," .......
 
2013-10-13 09:19:30 PM  

armoredbulldozer: b2theory: FTFA: "Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown"

I would love it for once if a news agency would be brutally honest and state tge obvious.

"Angered because the President is black..... the protesters...."

They're not racists, they hate Biden, Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, and the rest of the Democrat farking retards too.  Obama achieved Imbecile Gold status with the passing of Obamacare.




Why do you hate the Heritage Foundation?
 
2013-10-13 09:20:07 PM  
This is just people concerned about taxes, who demonstrate their dislike of taxes with blatant  racism.
 
2013-10-13 09:29:07 PM  

Repo Man: Why do you hate the Heritage Foundation?


I have an IQ above room temperature.
 
2013-10-13 09:38:14 PM  

GWSuperfan: I bet Schneider National is loving the PR from this pic in the Washington Post:

[img.fark.net image 576x406]


Five bucks says in a week we'll see an article how Obama got the guy fired.
 
2013-10-13 09:43:07 PM  
Is he a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, anti-religion in government liberal, or is he a secret Muslim out to impose Sharia on us all (which is anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, and the definition of having religion in government)?
 
2013-10-13 09:49:47 PM  

blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?

Some guy gets up at a rally, and says a bunch of stupid crap and CNN runs with it like it is a big deal....

Meanwhile
Republicans created a healthcare plan
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/02/07/the-tortuous-co ns ervative-history-of-the-individual-mandate/


They pushed for this plan over the course of 2 decades, and they even supported this plan as late as 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

 Then
When The democrats agreed to adopt this plan, the GOP suddenly (and at that point only) decided the plan was unconstitutional and posed a grave threat to the nation.

They sued in the supreme court but lost
http://www.scribd.com/doc/98544934/Supreme-Court-upholds-Affordable- Care-Act

They ran presidential candidate who opposed the Affordable Care Act even though he had passed a nearly identical law in the State of Massachusetts
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservat iv e-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/

Obama was re-elected with the Affordable Care Act being a center piece of the election
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/


Deciding that the Affordable Care Act was a serious threat to the nation, the GOP engineered a strategy of threatening a Government Shutdown to protest the Affordable Care Act.

To pull this off
The Republicans strategized how to engineer the shutdown, and how to handle the spin
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/10/05/federal-budget-cri si s-months-planning/bhA7OHhAIBvNNincmzdtjJ/story.html


80 members of congress signed a letter to force the shutdown.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jwithrow/does-your-senator-stand-wi th -mike-lee-against-obam


They said a shutdown would not be a bad thing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/30/ted- cr uz-government-shutdown-wouldnt-be-so-bad/

They celebrated wh ...


Favorited.
 
2013-10-13 10:00:43 PM  

WorldCitizen: Is he a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, anti-religion in government liberal, or is he a secret Muslim out to impose Sharia on us all (which is anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, and the definition of having religion in government)?


He's a militant Mooslem atheist pushing the Sharia gay lifestyle down our throats.
 
2013-10-13 10:10:37 PM  

Pharque-it: The Republican Party is "in the last throes," .......


We get the point. Stop repeating that thing. it's useless.
 
2013-10-13 10:23:56 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: phenn: Now, now. A buddy has been posting photos from the protest and there are plenty of black vets in attendance. The whole racist thing just doesn't apply to everyone.

[littlegreenfootballs.com image 850x481]

They must have been the 54th Massachusetts come to get Johnny Reb.


He's talking about that new type of invisible black folks - they don't photograph well. But there's lot's of 'em in those pictures - take my word for it.
 
2013-10-13 10:28:33 PM  

vpb: Bareefer Obonghit: It took a long time, but it looks like Lincoln should have just said, "Screw it, man."

Then we would just have a corrupt third world basket case on out southern border.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-10-13 10:57:34 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I think they fell a few shy of 1,000,000...even counting the non-vets.  But maybe those "pre-teens" are deep-cover special-ops.

[cnnpoliticalticker.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


And, you might have noticed, they still called the D.C. police dirty names for doing their jobs, despite the fact that they didn't act like Oakland or Campus police vs. the Occupy protesters.
 
2013-10-13 10:58:15 PM  

Alphakronik: [wonkette.com image 494x351]


Where's this guy when you need him?


He was the guy holding the Confederate flag.
 
2013-10-13 11:00:19 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Considering that the Tea Party is ONLY concerned about the budget they should be pretty happy.  The government isn't spending much money because of the intransigence of that Kenyan usurper.  What part of this do they have a problem with?


The fact that things they like have been stopped, of course. They expect those things to stay funded, and the spending to somehow magically drop.
 
2013-10-13 11:13:42 PM  
A typical Teabagger gathering: nothing but ignorant, white bigots.

Damn Teabaggers.
 
2013-10-13 11:14:07 PM  

IlGreven: Lionel Mandrake: I think they fell a few shy of 1,000,000...even counting the non-vets.  But maybe those "pre-teens" are deep-cover special-ops.

[cnnpoliticalticker.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]

And, you might have noticed, they still called the D.C. police dirty names for doing their jobs, despite the fact that they didn't act like Oakland or Campus police vs. the Occupy protesters.


They're mostly bla also.
 
2013-10-13 11:21:16 PM  

grumpfuff: Blahbbs: /FWombies?

I like this word. Stolen.

blastoh: <snip of long, detailed, good post>

That is well reasoned, well sourced, and pretty much spot on.

So of course the Teatards and Fark IndependentsTM will ignore it completely or fall back on ad hominems.

/your newsletter, i wants it


The problem, of course and unfortunately is the people who need convincing are the same type of person who will never accept any argument that wasn't given to them by their chosen authorities. You know the longer this shutdown goes on the more I see the right wing authoritarian personalities showing.

Something really needs to be done about them. Nothing so drastic as killing them for who they are 'cause that would be wrong. But maybe re-directing their hatred.
 
2013-10-13 11:38:30 PM  

Kittypie070: Pharque-it: The Republican Party is "in the last throes," .......

We get the point. Stop repeating that thing. it's useless.


If you repeat it enough it becomes true. Right? Or are you speaking for all of us?
 
2013-10-13 11:40:47 PM  

Pharque-it: Kittypie070: Pharque-it: The Republican Party is "in the last throes," .......

We get the point. Stop repeating that thing. it's useless.

If you repeat it enough it becomes true. Right? Or are you speaking for all of us?


It was nice the first three times I saw it.  Now it's sounding like a jingoism.
 
2013-10-13 11:56:37 PM  
Ever notice the ones breaking into monuments are the ones who scream "9-11 terrorist arab wharrgb!" the loudest?
 
2013-10-14 12:07:49 AM  

KierzanDax: Ever notice the ones breaking into monuments are the ones who scream "9-11 terrorist arab wharrgb!" the loudest?


Des Moines is an obvious terror target.
 
2013-10-14 12:08:57 AM  

2wolves: Pharque-it: Kittypie070: Pharque-it: The Republican Party is "in the last throes," .......

We get the point. Stop repeating that thing. it's useless.

If you repeat it enough it becomes true. Right? Or are you speaking for all of us?

It was nice the first three times I saw it.  Now it's sounding like a jingoism.



----------------------------------------
Kittypie070: bigsteve3OOO: We must stop and contract 

No.

I did nothing wrong.

It was YOUR representatives, YOUR demands toward them, and YOUR choice to play chicken with the F6 twister.

YOU "stop and contract."

----------------------------------------------------

Kitty's underlines. (So it is OK when you do it...)

Just so you get the point......
 
2013-10-14 12:46:54 AM  
Pharque-it:Kitty's underlines. (So it is OK when you do it...)

Just so you get the point......


I was speaking for myself, telling him to get off his WE crap and not include me in it, when I did nothing to deserve the sh*t he wanted to inflict on all of us.

What is your major malfunction?
 
2013-10-14 01:05:37 AM  

blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid. Seriously, This is news?


It's not news, but it's still something that needs to be broadcasted.  It needs to be broadcasted to remind all Americans that behind every "moderate" Republican on Capitol Hill, every "reasonable" GOPer who "just wants to do what's right for America," there are millions of sociopaths just like this douchenozzle.  And they vote.  And they always get what they want, or destroy everything in sight trying, in the GOP.
 
2013-10-14 02:20:07 AM  

Here's blastoh's awesome treatise (and some minor additions of my own including primary sourcing of evidence) formatted better. Those of you with Firefox, select the indented text, then right-click and do "View Selection Source", copy that HTML code, and paste it anywhere that allows basic HTML formatting in comments (I really wish that FARK didn't mess up true typesetting-style apotrophes, quotes, and dashes ― we could really use them now [that one there looks like an em dash but isn't ― it's a horizontal bar, which looks the same but doesn't parse properly in some screen readers]):

• Republicans (specifically, Dr. Stuart M. Butler, Ph.D., Distinguished Fellow and then-Director of the Heritage Foundation's Center for Public Policy Innovation, in a paper published on January 2, 1989 [when Ronald Reagan still had three weeks left in his Presidency, George Herbert Walker Bush was the President-Elect, and few Americans outside of Arkansas had even heard of Bill Clinton, let alone Hillary, yet, so his more recent attempts to claim that he did this in response to "HillaryCare" don't even mesh with basic chronology! Note also that that's when it was published, meaning it had to have been written before that, and thought up before that!]) created a national healthcare plan complete with an Individual Mandate. It was entitled "A National Health System for America."

• About ¾ of a year later, on October 2 of the same year, the day after George Herbert Walker Bush had just started his first Fiscal Year in office, it was re-published in expanded form as a full-fledged book entitled Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans.

Here's the cover image:
healthcarereform.procon.org
(Right-click to view larger image.)



• They pushed for this plan over the course of 2 decades, and they even supported this plan as late as 2008 (the Healthy Americans Act, aka the Wyden-Bennett bill).

•Then when the Democrats agreed to adopt this plan, the GOP suddenly (and at that point only) decided that the plan was unconstitutional and posed a grave threat to the nation. They sued in the supreme court but lost

• They ran a presidential candidate who opposed the Affordable Care Act even though he had passed a nearly identical law in the State of Massachusetts that was itself based on the Heritage Foundation Butler plan. When pressed on this, his excuse was that "RomneyCare" was only intended to work at the State level, not the federal level. Yeah. That's why Butler's paper was entitled "A National Health System for America." and the book version was Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans, right, Governor Romney? Oh, and remember what Romney said in a debate? And on Fox News? Or on NBC's Meet the Press re: the aforementioned Wyden-Bennett Healthy Americans Act (full transcript here)?

Obama was re-elected with the Affordable Care Act being a center piece of the election

Deciding that the Affordable Care Act was a serious threat to the nation, the GOP engineered a strategy of threatening a Government Shutdown to protest the Affordable Care Act. To pull this off:
The Republicans strategized how to engineer the shutdown, and how to handle the spin.
80 members of congress signed a letter to force the shutdown.
They said a shutdown would not be a bad thing.
They celebrated when it happened.
The House Republicans changed a long standing House Rule at the last minute to ensure the shutdown would stay in effect.
When challenged about this, the republicans would not address the issue.

All the while:
They accused the Democrats and Obama of not negotiating, even though the democrats tried repeatedly to negotiate (19 times as of October 7).
Which should not have been necessary since Harry Reid and John Boehner had a deal, that Boehner backed out of.
• And despite all of this, The Radical wing of the GOP will still blame Obama for the Shutdown

Meanwhile:
• In 2001, the then-new GOP President and GOP Congress inherited a projected budget surplus and a projected elimination of the entire debt within 10 years.
The GOP then passed a tax cut,waged an expensive war, and repeatedly voted to raise the debt ceiling with no demands on spending cuts (in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, and 2007).

Then, when a Democrat was in the White House:
the GOP decided it was worth risking a default to place demands on spending cuts.
Some Republicans are even calling for a default, forgetting that we did default, for just one day, in 1979, and it cost us billions.
And ignoring what economists are saying would likely happen if we default.
 
2013-10-14 02:30:10 AM  

COMALite J: Here's blastoh's awesome treatise (and some minor additions of my own including primary sourcing of evidence) formatted better. Those of you with Firefox, select the indented text, then right-click and do "View Selection Source", copy that HTML code, and paste it anywhere that allows basic HTML formatting in comments (I really wish that FARK didn't mess up true typesetting-style apotrophes, quotes, and dashes ― we could really use them now [that one there looks like an em dash but isn't ― it's a horizontal bar, which looks the same but doesn't parse properly in some screen readers]):• Republicans (specifically, Dr. Stuart M. Butler, Ph.D., Distinguished Fellow and then-Director of the Heritage Foundation's Center for Public Policy Innovation, in a paper published on January 2, 1989 [when Ronald Reagan still had three weeks left in his Presidency, George Herbert Walker Bush was the President-Elect, and few Americans outside of Arkansas had even heard of Bill Clinton, let alone Hillary, yet, so his more recent attempts to claim that he did this in response to "HillaryCare" don't even mesh with basic chronology! Note also that that's when it was published, meaning it had to have been written before that, and thought up before that!]) created a national healthcare plan complete with an Individual Mandate. It was entitled "A National Health System for America."

• About ¾ of a year later, on October 2 of the same year, the day after George Herbert Walker Bush had just started his first Fiscal Year in office, it was re-published in expanded form as a full-fledged book entitled Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans.Here's the cover image:
[healthcarereform.procon.org image 283x366]
(Right-click to view larger image.)

• They pushed for this plan over the course of 2 decades, and they even supported this plan as late as 2008 (the Healthy Americans Act, aka the Wyden-Bennett bill).

•Then when the Democrats agreed to adopt this plan, the GOP suddenly (and at that ...


This should have its own website.
 
2013-10-14 02:56:17 AM  

Thanks, HighOnCraic, but blastoh did the really hard work.

Here it is again, with some minor typos fixed. Please use this version:

Here's blastoh's awesome treatise (and some minor additions of my own including primary sourcing of evidence) formatted better. Those of you with Firefox, select the indented text, then right-click and do "View Selection Source", copy that HTML code, and paste it anywhere that allows basic HTML formatting in comments (I really wish that FARK didn't mess up true typesetting-style apotrophes, quotes, and dashes ― we could really use them now [that one there looks like an em dash but isn't ― it's a horizontal bar, which looks the same but doesn't parse properly in some screen readers]):

• Republicans (specifically, Dr. Stuart M. Butler, Ph.D., Distinguished Fellow and then-Director of the Heritage Foundation's Center for Public Policy Innovation, in a paper published on January 2, 1989 [when Ronald Reagan still had three weeks left in his Presidency, George Herbert Walker Bush was the President-Elect, and few Americans outside of Arkansas had even heard of Bill Clinton, let alone Hillary, yet, so his more recent attempts to claim that he did this in response to "HillaryCare" don't even mesh with basic chronology! Note also that that's when it was published, meaning it had to have been written before that, and thought up before that!]) created a national healthcare plan complete with an Individual Mandate. It was entitled "A National Health System for America."

• About ¾ of a year later, on October 2 of the same year, the day after George Herbert Walker Bush had just started his first Fiscal Year in office, it was re-published in expanded form as a full-fledged book entitled Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans.

Here's the cover image:
healthcarereform.procon.org
(Right-click to view larger image.)



• They pushed for this plan over the course of 2 decades, and they even supported this plan as late as 2008 (the Healthy Americans Act, aka the Wyden-Bennett bill).

•Then when the Democrats agreed to adopt this plan, the GOP suddenly (and at that point only) decided that the plan was unconstitutional and posed a grave threat to the nation. They sued in the supreme court but lost

• They ran a presidential candidate who opposed the Affordable Care Act even though he had passed a nearly identical law in the State of Massachusetts that was itself based on the Heritage Foundation Butler plan. When pressed on this, his excuse was that "RomneyCare" was only intended to work at the State level, not the federal level. Yeah. That's why Butler's paper was entitled "A National Health System for America." and the book version was Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans, right, Governor Romney? Oh, and remember what Romney said in a debate? And on Fox News? Or on NBC's Meet the Press re: the aforementioned Wyden-Bennett Healthy Americans Act (full transcript here)?

• Obama was re-elected with the Affordable Care Act being a centerpiece of the election.

Deciding that the Affordable Care Act was a serious threat to the nation, the GOP engineered a strategy of threatening a Government Shutdown to protest the Affordable Care Act. To pull this off:
The Republicans strategized how to engineer the shutdown, and how to handle the spin.
80 members of congress signed a letter to force the shutdown.
They said a shutdown would not be a bad thing.
They celebrated when it happened.
The House Republicans changed a long standing House Rule at the last minute to ensure the shutdown would stay in effect.
When challenged about this, the republicans would not address the issue.

All the while:
They accused the Democrats and Obama of not negotiating, even though the democrats tried repeatedly to negotiate (19 times as of October 7).
Which should not have been necessary since Harry Reid and John Boehner had a deal, that Boehner backed out of.
• And despite all of this, the far-right wing of the GOP will still blame Obama for the shutdown.

Meanwhile:
• In 2001, the then-new GOP President and GOP Congress inherited a projected budget surplus and a projected elimination of the entire debt within 10 years.
The GOP then passed a tax cut,waged an expensive war, and repeatedly voted to raise the debt ceiling with no demands on spending cuts (in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, and 2007).

Then, when a Democrat was in the White House:
The GOP decided it was worth risking a default to place demands on spending cuts.
Some Republicans are even calling for a default, forgetting that we did default, for just one day, in 1979, and it cost us billions.
And ignoring what economists are saying would likely happen if we default.
 
2013-10-14 04:05:23 AM  
[carefully gathers pearls]
 
2013-10-14 04:26:22 AM  

Kittypie070: [carefully gathers pearls]


Hey, some of those are mine, I didn't see you spamming the news on facebook ;)

And of all people, I should have seen your hairy pastry lock step behind me :P
 
2013-10-14 05:09:18 AM  

iq_in_binary: Kittypie070: [carefully gathers pearls]

Hey, some of those are mine, I didn't see you spamming the news on facebook ;)

And of all people, I should have seen your hairy pastry lock step behind me :P


Um, I'm in a quandary.

I don't want to use the one I has already. I need a...B4c3F00k throwaway but that's frownt upon rather strenuously.
 
2013-10-14 05:18:18 AM  

Kittypie070: iq_in_binary: Kittypie070: [carefully gathers pearls]

Hey, some of those are mine, I didn't see you spamming the news on facebook ;)

And of all people, I should have seen your hairy pastry lock step behind me :P

Um, I'm in a quandary.

I don't want to use the one I has already. I need a...B4c3F00k throwaway but that's frownt upon rather strenuously.


i did it under my own name, why would you need a throwaway? its the accounts like ours that they pay attention to when we're pissed, we know real people
 
2013-10-14 07:38:54 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: PsiChick: fusillade762: Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown

You poor babies. Forget about the fact that children are going without food that hasn't been properly inspected and cancer trials are cancelled, THE PARKS ARE CLOSED!

/when these assholes remember that WIC has run out of money I'll feel sympathy.

All of the states except for North Carolina have picked up the funding gap.



NC did as of Friday, but only after a Democrat House member, David Price, personally contacted the state HHS director and told her the money was available. Before that HHS had been told specifically not to transfer any operating money to WIC to keep the program running.

/the emergency money runs out at the end of October
//for every state
///Price is my Representative
 
2013-10-14 09:21:28 AM  
Slight typo remains in my second version. Please insert a space in the second / last bulleted item under "Meanwhile:" after "passed a tax cut," when pasting this anywhere. Thanks.
 
2013-10-14 11:02:54 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Considering that the Tea Party is ONLY concerned about the budget they should be pretty happy.  The government isn't spending much money because of the intransigence of that Kenyan usurper.  What part of this do they have a problem with?


The RINOs in Congress have already authorized back pay for all Federal workers, so they won't even save any money.  Backstabbers.
 
2013-10-14 12:54:03 PM  

blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news? (snip)


Thank you for these posts.  Forums are fun to mix it up with people and to get a better grasp of the concepts involved, but posts like yours take it to the next level.  You take the time to give the rest of us something to work from when we have to deal with those who don't have the time (or don't want to take the effort) to do the necessary legwork on backing up our points.

It's appreciated, and a big reason why I come back to Fark.  Again, thanks.
 
2013-10-14 01:56:38 PM  

Pincy: "I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

I hate to admit this, because in general I'm a peace loving kind of guy, but there are really some people who should get the shiat beat out of them.


If it makes you feel better about wanting to punch this guy, he repeatedly invoked the Fifth Amendment, when his ex-wife accused him of molesting their children.
 
2013-10-14 02:15:12 PM  

quatchi: blastoh: [awesomeness redacted for brevity's sake]

That's a favoriting.

/Newsletter, jib, buy ya a beer, etc.


All of these.  That was brilliantly stated.  *golfclap*
 
2013-10-14 07:42:09 PM  

El Morro: blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news? (snip)

Thank you for these posts.  Forums are fun to mix it up with people and to get a better grasp of the concepts involved, but posts like yours take it to the next level.  You take the time to give the rest of us something to work from when we have to deal with those who don't have the time (or don't want to take the effort) to do the necessary legwork on backing up our points.

It's appreciated, and a big reason why I come back to Fark.  Again, thanks.


Over all blastoh is a good egg.  Kinda emotional, but a dinkum cobber.
 
2013-10-14 08:36:33 PM  

iq_in_binary: Kittypie070: iq_in_binary: Kittypie070: [carefully gathers pearls]

Hey, some of those are mine, I didn't see you spamming the news on facebook ;)

And of all people, I should have seen your hairy pastry lock step behind me :P

Um, I'm in a quandary.

I don't want to use the one I has already. I need a...B4c3F00k throwaway but that's frownt upon rather strenuously.


i did it under my own name, why would you need a throwaway? its the accounts like ours that they pay attention to when we're pissed, we know real people


Dunno. FB just weirds me out for no rational reason.

I didn't even want to get into it, I was sorta pushed.
 
2013-10-15 12:25:58 AM  

blastoh: I am actually growing a little tired of these stories about some guy at a rally saying something stupid.  Seriously, This is news?

Some guy gets up at a rally, and says a bunch of stupid crap and CNN runs with it like it is a big deal....

Meanwhile
Republicans created a healthcare plan
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/02/07/the-tortuous-co ns ervative-history-of-the-individual-mandate/


They pushed for this plan over the course of 2 decades, and they even supported this plan as late as 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

 Then
When The democrats agreed to adopt this plan, the GOP suddenly (and at that point only) decided the plan was unconstitutional and posed a grave threat to the nation.

They sued in the supreme court but lost
http://www.scribd.com/doc/98544934/Supreme-Court-upholds-Affordable- Care-Act

They ran presidential candidate who opposed the Affordable Care Act even though he had passed a nearly identical law in the State of Massachusetts
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservat iv e-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/

Obama was re-elected with the Affordable Care Act being a center piece of the election
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/


Deciding that the Affordable Care Act was a serious threat to the nation, the GOP engineered a strategy of threatening a Government Shutdown to protest the Affordable Care Act.

To pull this off
The Republicans strategized how to engineer the shutdown, and how to handle the spin
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/10/05/federal-budget-cri si s-months-planning/bhA7OHhAIBvNNincmzdtjJ/story.html


80 members of congress signed a letter to force the shutdown.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jwithrow/does-your-senator-stand-wi th -mike-lee-against-obam


They said a shutdown would not be a bad thing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/30/ted- cr uz-government-shutdown-wouldnt-be-so-bad/

They celebrated when it happened
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/republicans-shut-down-the- go vernment-but-they-cant-stop-obamacare-20131001


The House Republicans changed a long standing House Rule at the last minute to ensure the shutdown would stay in effect:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/the-house-gop-s-little-rule-change-t ha t-guaranteed-a-shutdown

When challenged about this, the republicans would not address the issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jd-iaYLO1A

All the while
They accused the Democrats and Obama of not negotiating, even though the democrats tried repeatedly to negotiate
http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/19-times-democrats-tried-to- ne gotiate-with-republicans-20131007?mrefid=mostread

Which should not have been necessary since Harry Reid and John Boehner had a deal, that Boehner backed out of.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/326425-reid-boehner-backed-out-of -d eal

And despite all of this,
The Radical wing of the GOP will still blame Obama for the Shutdown

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-republicans-b la me-obama-20131006,0,2739790.story


Meanwhile

In 2001, The GOP President and GOP Congress
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Combined--Control _o f_the_U.S._House_of_Representatives_-_Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.png

inherited a projected budget surplus and a projected elimination of the entire debt within 10 years.
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/new/html/Fri_Dec_29_151111_2000.html


The GOP then passed a tax cut,
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/41463

waged an expensive war
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-28/world/38097452_1_iraq- price-tag-first-gulf-war-veterans

and repeatedly voted to raise the debt ceiling with no demands on spending cuts.
2002 vote: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll279.xml
2003 vote: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/108-2003/s202
2004 vote: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/108-2004/h536
2006 vote: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s54
2007 vote: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/110-2007/s354


Then
When a Democrat was in the Whitehouse, the GOP decided it was worth risking a default to place demands on spending cuts.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/boehner-u-s-will-default-if-ob am a-doesn-t-cave-on-the-debt-limit


And to top it all off,
I have gotten almost all of this information from a joke of a website called "FARK" who's mascot is a god damned squirrel trying to shove his nut sack in everybody's face.

Meanwhile CNN runs a story about some crazy guy at a protest saying something crazy.


This was posted word for word on my facebook page. With credit as "stolen from fark.com post". It's already been copied and reposted by two of my friends. You may end up seeing this elsewhere on the intrawebs. Wish I had credited your username if I knew others would pick it up.
 
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