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(Chicago Sun-Times)   Residents shocked, SHOCKED, to discover there's noise coming from O'Hare airport   (suntimes.com) divider line 56
    More: Asinine, O'Hare Airport, Jan Schakowsky, Don Walsh, suburbanites, Elk Grove Village  
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2013-10-12 12:38:12 PM
As a kid, I lived near Grand and Wolf.  The aircraft noise was insane.
CSB
As I walked home from school I saw flames up my street (Prater). It was my house, well, actually our detached garage, which my kindergarten brother set ablaze.
/CSB
 
2013-10-12 12:40:57 PM

rkiller1: As a kid, I lived near Grand and Wolf.  The aircraft noise was insane.
CSB
As I walked home from school I saw flames up my street (Prater). It was my house, well, actually our detached garage, which my kindergarten brother set ablaze.
/CSB


The hell?
 
2013-10-12 12:42:18 PM
Pfft, airliners have gotten very quiet in the past 4 decades.  If you want noise, live within 10 miles of an Air Force or Air National Guard base.  The military planes have no noise suppression and every now and then they use the afterburners.
 
2013-10-12 12:42:24 PM
Same ilk of people who complain about golf balls hitting their home located right next to the golf course that was there before their home ever existed.  I know the people down in Virginia beach who's panties get ruffled from the noise coming from the Naval Air Station that has been there for a bazillion years.
 
2013-10-12 12:42:42 PM
I would be shocked, SHOCKED, if a plane made it on schedule at O'Hare
 
2013-10-12 12:43:20 PM
Didn't notice those planes going over when you were buying the house there, genius?
 
2013-10-12 12:50:07 PM

rkiller1: As a kid, I lived near Grand and Wolf.  The aircraft noise was insane.
CSB
As I walked home from school I saw flames up my street (Prater). It was my house, well, actually our detached garage, which my kindergarten brother set ablaze.
/CSB


Is this supposed to be a Family Guy cutaway?
 
2013-10-12 12:51:13 PM

JustLookin: Didn't notice those planes going over when you were buying the house there, genius?


To be fair they have changed the runways and many people who were used to the previous noise level now find themselves facing a greatly increased amount of noise.  That said others are getting less noise, but guess who you don't hear from?
 
2013-10-12 12:51:43 PM

rkiller1: As a kid, I lived near Grand and Wolf.  The aircraft noise was insane.
CSB
As I walked home from school I saw flames up my street (Prater). It was my house, well, actually our detached garage, which my kindergarten brother set ablaze.
/CSB


Thank you for flying Air Nonsequitur. Please like pizza on the way out.
 
2013-10-12 12:51:59 PM

JustLookin: Didn't notice those planes going over when you were buying the house there, genius?


Someone didn't read the article.

I'm not going to ask you to give sympathy to the owners here, but they're opening a new runway at O'hare that will drastically change the traffic patterns, giving some relief from noise and others that didn't have sound issues in the past will now have them.
 
2013-10-12 12:52:40 PM
The next thing you will say is people that build homes next to farms will smell barnyard smells!
 
2013-10-12 12:53:05 PM
Good thing these people didn't live there in the days before turbofans and noise certifications. Heads would assplode.
 
2013-10-12 12:53:10 PM

I live near the San Antonio airport and got the free soundproofing.  Supposedly like 75k worth of stuff.  Triple pane in all windows, new doors, and sprayed insulation in the walls and attic.  I could cut up a hooker with a chainsaw and someone in my front yard couldn't hear it.


Outside is a different story, but I've turned it into a drinking game.  Take a drink whenever a plane flies by.

 
2013-10-12 12:54:52 PM
It was shocking when the government forced all those people, at gunpoint, to purchase houses in close proximity to one of the busiest airports in the world.

What's next? Forced healthcare?
 
2013-10-12 12:55:04 PM

JustLookin: Didn't notice those planes going over when you were buying the house there, genius?


This.
 
2013-10-12 12:55:26 PM
Let 'em sell their homes to deaf people.
 
2013-10-12 12:55:35 PM
I've never understood why the hub part of the operation wasn't relocated to some relatively vacant place.
 
2013-10-12 12:58:08 PM
The amount of people who have failed to take into account the words in the article, never ceases to amaze.  I'd say more, but I have to go invest in the Armchair industry.
 
2013-10-12 12:58:30 PM
How can we really tell if they're complaining?

 
2013-10-12 01:01:31 PM
Dale Kerrigan: "The real estate agent said 'location location location' and we were right next to the airport!"

Those residents want the noise reduced? Tell 'em they're dreaming!
 
2013-10-12 01:02:55 PM

Mr. Eugenides: Pfft, airliners have gotten very quiet in the past 4 decades.  If you want noise, live within 10 miles of an Air Force or Air National Guard base.  The military planes have no noise suppression and every now and then they use the afterburners.


This is no joke. I'm taking a class in Boise and it's right under commericial and military flight paths. You can hear and notice the commuter stuff outside, but when those jets are going, even the teacher in class has to stop since we cannot hear here.

/and we are some miles from the actual air strips
 
2013-10-12 01:05:23 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: The amount of people who have failed to take into account the words in the article, never ceases to amaze.  I'd say more, but I have to go invest in the Armchair industry.


They are part of the problem.
 
2013-10-12 01:08:44 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: The amount of people who have failed to take into account the words in the article, never ceases to amaze.  I'd say more, but I have to go invest in the Armchair industry.


There is a certain breed of poster, when confronted with certain key words, who appears compelled to spout banal cliches irrespective of the facts. The idiocy is certainly something to behold.
 
2013-10-12 01:09:56 PM
 
2013-10-12 01:25:25 PM
Annnndd I'm willing to bet that most of those morons moved there after the airport was built.

Lived in Jacksonville as a teenager.  A bunch of new housing developments were built around NAS Jacksonville.  Very large naval base, hundreds of planes stationed there, including several squadrons of P3-Orions.

So naturally the residents moved into their new homes and then were immediately SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you that they could hear jets and planes constantly.
 
2013-10-12 01:27:34 PM
I live almost directly under the approach to 33R in Toronto. Like 3 miles from the airport. Modern airplanes are so quiet, the only thing I usually hear, if anything, is some old MD-80 or whatever using thrust reversers.
 
2013-10-12 01:38:51 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Annnndd I'm willing to bet that most of those morons moved there after the airport was built.

7.5 miles is a huge distance.

 
2013-10-12 01:43:12 PM
These jackasses have nothing on the morons who bought a house by Long Beach Airport. You can't do ANYTHING with that airport thanks to those people.
 
2013-10-12 01:43:25 PM
I lived there 5 minutes away when I was growing up. It's not that bad. You get used to it. What a bunch of whiners.
 
2013-10-12 01:46:12 PM
One of my sisters had a house in the Tucson flight path. Some lawyer got up a petition to sue the airport (collecting $100 from each person who signed up). Nothing happened, other than the checks being cashed, because every house in the flight path was sold with a covenant forbidding them to ever sue the airport.
 
2013-10-12 01:48:00 PM

tennesseemike: DeathByGeekSquad: The amount of people who have failed to take into account the words in the article, never ceases to amaze.  I'd say more, but I have to go invest in the Armchair industry.

They are part of the problem.


HAY, IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE NOISE IS COMMING FROM A DIFFIRENT DIRECTION NOW, THEY STILL BOUGHT A HOUSE NEAR THE AIRPORT SSSHHHREEEEEEEEEEahole
 
2013-10-12 01:49:45 PM
Remember, this noise is all Bush's fault!
 
2013-10-12 01:57:40 PM

signaljammer: I've never understood why the hub part of the operation wasn't relocated to some relatively vacant place.


Generally, major hubs are major hubs in large part because they're easy to get to, i.e. not out in the middle of nowhere.
 
2013-10-12 02:05:14 PM
"That's insane. That's absolutely insane,'' said Walsh, of the Indian Woods community in the 39th Ward. "Why aren't they equally breaking up the runways?"

It's almost like they use the runway(s) that the winds are favoring.

No sympathy for people who live near major airports, even when there's new construction. You had to know it was a possibility when you moved in.
 
2013-10-12 02:05:20 PM

Lachwen: signaljammer: I've never understood why the hub part of the operation wasn't relocated to some relatively vacant place.

Generally, major hubs are major hubs in large part because they're easy to get to, i.e. not out in the middle of nowhere.


Like Denver's airport, which is actually somewhere in Western Kansas.
 
2013-10-12 02:17:28 PM
www.wweek.com

/Not happy at all
 
2013-10-12 02:22:15 PM

tennesseemike: Satanic_Hamster: Annnndd I'm willing to bet that most of those morons moved there after the airport was built.

7.5 miles is a huge distance.


Not from a major airport.
 
2013-10-12 02:30:27 PM
Amazingly, after RTFA, i'm quite surprised that this is not about people who knew the airport was close...
And people actually get some sound attenuation aid ? wow that's probably a first i've never seen this before, but then again O'Hare is one big airport...
 
2013-10-12 02:35:02 PM
O'Hare WAS in the middle of nowhere, on the outskirts of the city, when built. Development eventually grew around and past it. You knew whatyou were getting into when you bought the property nest to what is still one of the three or four busiest airports in the world (at one time number 1)

Asking the airport to make the planes use other runways can't always work. Runways are aligned to the prevailing wind direction for a reason.  Forcing airliners full of people to take-off and land in crosswinds is a safety risk.

Besides altering zoning, so residential can be slowly replaced by warehouse and other industrial use, or, god forbid, farming, or offering rebates for sound-proofing, there is nothing much else to be done.

On a positive note, planes ARE getting quieter all the time, and a previous poster spoke truth that residents today don't appreciate just how much quieter today's jets already are.
 
2013-10-12 03:02:31 PM

Mr. Eugenides: Pfft, airliners have gotten very quiet in the past 4 decades.  If you want noise, live within 10 miles of an Air Force or Air National Guard base.  The military planes have no noise suppression and every now and then they use the afterburners.



I grew up about 8-10 miles from ANG base that used C-5's.  My house was right under the path for both takeoff and landing.  Those things were huge and had a really distinctive roar but after a while they were no more noticeable or disruptive than a lawnmower.  People need to suck it up and learn to adapt.
 
2013-10-12 03:08:54 PM
What?!
 
2013-10-12 04:23:22 PM

12349876: JustLookin: Didn't notice those planes going over when you were buying the house there, genius?

Someone didn't read the article.

I'm not going to ask you to give sympathy to the owners here, but they're opening a new runway at O'hare that will drastically change the traffic patterns, giving some relief from noise and others that didn't have sound issues in the past will now have them.


I read the entire article.  The guy doing the lion's share of the complaining was already living in the flight path, already being awoken by early morning flights.  Now there will be more such flights, I gather.

Nonetheless, he already lives in the flight path.  If you don't want to live along an airport's flight path (and one of the world's busiest airport flight paths, to boot) then perhaps you shouldn't have purchased a house there.
 
2013-10-12 04:46:17 PM
I'm not sure why we are supposed to feel bad for these people. They bought a house near an airport, airports open new runways all the time, welcome to the wonderful world of air travel. It's like those idiots who build in a flood plain then get all pissy when their house gets flooded. What did they honestly expect to happen? That they would buy a house near an airport and it would be quiet? It's been there since the 1940's people. Get hit with the clue bat already.
 
2013-10-12 04:50:55 PM

parkerlewis: I would be shocked, SHOCKED, if a plane made it on schedule at O'Hare


Just landed at O'hare this morning in a big 777, one HOUR ahead of schedule. The best explanation I can walk away with is that I was on a beta test flight for time travel.

//shocked.
 
2013-10-12 08:03:33 PM
As a kid in 1970's and '80's, I grew up about a mile from a major air freight company's hub. You wanna talk noise? Try the era before high-bypass turbofans.

/ ancient DC-8 freighters are louder than a Mexican revolution
 
2013-10-12 08:20:47 PM

italie: parkerlewis: I would be shocked, SHOCKED, if a plane made it on schedule at O'Hare

Just landed at O'hare this morning in a big 777, one HOUR ahead of schedule. The best explanation I can walk away with is that I was on a beta test flight for time travel.

//shocked.


You crossed into a new time zone...
 
2013-10-12 09:29:33 PM
Pffft. If they want something to complain about then they should move next to Midway airport.
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2013-10-12 11:45:25 PM
These people are whining about ARRIVING planes? Seriously, that's nothing. I used to live off the end of the runway at Burbank Airport with departing planes buzzing the house. You get used to it, and I was a day sleeper. I guess it helped that I grew up next to NAS Miramar.

You couldn't go anywhere in Burbank without running into these whiners and their petitions
 
2013-10-13 05:01:35 AM
My parent worked at airports. I grew up living in a house right at the end of a runway most of my childhood. These dunces have to close windows to block out the noise in order to sleep?

Idiots. You acclimate to the noise if you don't constantly make such a big farking deal about it. I can sleep through anything now.
 
2013-10-13 08:51:54 AM

SpaceBison: Pffft. If they want something to complain about then they should move next to Midway airport.
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To this day it amazes me how that doesn't happen more often. You don't appreciate how tight the airspace/ground space is around midway until you fly into it.

//I think the reason they are pushing Ohare expansion / Peotone airport is to eventually shutter Midway too...
 
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